The Syndicate

Well shit sorry town. Also damn i really need to follow my instincts and should've stuck with nutella.

Fun game though thanks for hosting it.

[mention]nutella[/mention]

There we go

@Nutella

@nutella you wanna switch your vote to speed for us.

Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:03 pm guys i have an idea

speedchuck stole nutella’s vote yeah?

so kites bob nutella vote for speed

speed and sig vote bob

if speed stole nutella vote he couldn’t have killed kyle and bob dies as scum. if speed killed kyle he didn’t steal nutella’s vote and speed dies as scum

but then again this can only work if there is 1 scum left so... thoughts?

This sounds like it could work.

I'll be in and out until 5ish

[mention]Kites[/mention] Explain your Speed vote to me please

And I'd like everyone's thoughts on Nutella. She's pretty much gone afk this phase and her last minute vote for rdw the other phase doesn't look good also explain mechanically how she can't be mafia.

In writing my last few posts I've talked myself into a Bob lynch, I'll be willing to switch, but I need some other players feedback into his posts these last few days.

[VOTE: Bob] aubergine

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

Okay reading back we've from at least day 9 stopped scum hunting and have entered this limbo of mechanics and night actions. In a game with so much shit not revealed from background stories to promotions this isn't the way to be playing at end game. The main player pushing this is Bob and its distracted from hunting and allowed RDW a civ to get lynched to reveal mafia which didn't even happen.

The question is though, is it more town sided or scum sided to focus on this? As mafia he'd have more knowledge and could potentially mess with plans. However, he does seem to be putting in a fair amount of thought, which seems town sided.

Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:57 pm dude if you’re town you would have voted for bob already cos you’d know that you’re town and he was the only person able to make the kill

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

But, that would mean Bob is his mafia partner?

These four people voted for RDW

speedchuck, nutella, colonialbob, Kylemii

Kyle is dead, but I think the last mafia was on this wagon. They had to remove one of RDWs lives to than night kill. If he was killed first he'd have been a lock cleared civ. Andb scum didn't want to go into end game with RDW having two lives.

linki: Looking at voting and behavior Kyle seems more likely to be mafia, however with all the actions that we see I can't fathom how mafia would've killed one of their own. The only conclusion I can think of than is that Kenway was mafia.

And it is kind off contradictory since I'm not sure what happened or other people's secret actions/backgrounds.

Looking back Cbob was the player who pushed RDW with his plan for it to give us no results that's a bad look. However the reaosn i'm doubting this is that most of the scum team wasn't very active and if the scum is currently being suspected it makes so much more sense for them to lay back which is what Nutella has been doing. She also popped in and voted for RDW. However, with the way things have shaken up, it appears she can't be mafia? (At this point I'm not sure if I'm just tin foiling on nutella or if what I've been saying have any bearing.)

If she can't be mafia than at this point it makes the most sense to go for Bob. The other options would be speed or Kites, but nobody seems to suspect them.

I know for a fact, assuming my background isn't misleading that my brother is mafia and that I can't kill my brother if I target them.

So unless another role superseded my inability to kill my brother that would mean Kenway is mafia, but not my brother. And that Kyle was mafia and my brother. However, mafia killed Kyle and he was mafia so that has to leave Kenway.

And yes I'm being slightly OMGUS, since you seem to be attempting to turn the tables and get me lynched and I know I'm a civ.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:41 am @sig How certain are you that Kenway/RDW was scum?

Its more likely that its kyle/kenway seeing whem i moved. And I'm about 80% sure

Cant chat much but bob trying to push mt lynch is kinda scummy

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:10 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.
hmm Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)
Yeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.
I mean, yeah we need to lynch scum today and we should consider all avenues, but this is one of them.

Whether or not we have 1 or 2 scum left matters, darn it. It changes the mechanically potential teams.

Yeah, looking at the way things have landed I'd say we can clear Nutella and I know I'm a civ.

Kites, I'm just really torn over
Bob I thought he was a civ up until awhile ago. His idea last night seemed good albeit it didn't work and led us on an RDW witch hunt.
Speed. Back and forth

I think our answer lies in the RDW lynch. Mafia would've made sure that RDW was down to one life since killing him would've town firmed him. Look at who pushed it and we find our mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.
hmm Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)

Yeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:45 pm @sig Kyle and Kenway are dead town

Nope one had to be mafia for my alignment flip to make any sense. They must be a seemer.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:59 am Day 1

[6] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool, rundontwalk, JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Iron_Dwarf
[6] Quin - Dragon D. Luffy, nutella, , colonialbob, Marmot, Kylemii, Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] dunya - DrWilgy

No vote: Dr. White, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

Kenway voted for TSP
Kyle was on Quin's wagon who was mafia. Interesting to note no flipped mafia was on Quin's wagon. OR the nutella wagon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 pm Day 2

CBob - Kites, Tony, Marmot, Iron, Mac
Lap - Quin, Nutella, LC, Jimmy, CBob
Dr White (lynched, town) - Colin, Speed, RDW
LC - DDL, Kyle
Marmot - Sig
Speed - Wilgy
Iron - GWilly
Sig - Sprityo
Nutella - Dr White
Jimmy - Epi

Kyle voted for LC with DDL. Both were civ
Kenway didn't vote?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:02 pm Day 3

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, McDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[6] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: sig (but a good effort)

Much vote manipulation. Very unexpect

Kyle voted for ID
Kenway voted for Sig

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:02 am Day 4

9] DrWilgy - sig, Kites, Iron_Dwarf, Marmot, gwilikers6, Dragon D. Luffy, Quin, rundontwalk, Speedchuck
[6] Quin - lapluie, sprityo, nutella, Kylemii, colonialbob, Epignosis

Kyle went for Quin
Kenway didn't vote

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:20 am Day 5

[8] Quin - Marmot, Nutella, Dragon D. Luffy, Sig, speedchuck, gwilikers6, Kylemii oh yeah and Kites, too
[4] Iron_Dwarf - rundontwalk, sprityo, quin, Epignosis
[1] Nutella - lapluie
[1] Marmot - Iron_Dwarf
[1] Kenway - colonialbob

No vote: Kenway

Kyle second to last vote on Quin
Kenway no vote.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:54 pm Day 6
[6] lapluie - sprityo, nutella, rundontwalk, gwilkkers6, Epignosis, Kylemii
[4] rundontwalk - colonialbob, Kites, sig, Dragon D. Luffy
[2] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Speedchuck

Not voting: Kenway, lapluie

Day 7

Who gets lynched? (Vote here and in thread.)
Poll ended at Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:06 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Rundontwalk
1
6%
Voters: Iron_Dwarf
Speedchuck (formerly Dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gwilikers6
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Colonialbob
3
18%
Voters: Kites, rundontwalk, nutella
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
IronDwarf
2
12%
Voters: Kylemii, speedchuck
Sig
4
24%
Voters: colonialbob, Kenway, Epignosis, sprityo
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
Vote in thread, too, or you won’t be allowed to have nice things. Day ends when this poll ends. (Dead/non/host)
7
41%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, JaggedJimmyJay, Scotty, lapluie, Jackofhearts2005, Marmot, dunya

At this point, I expect you to start questioning my ability to count.

Kyle voted Lap day 6 ID day 7
Kenway no vote day 6 Sig Day 7

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:36 am Who killed Princess Epi?
Poll ended at Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:55 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

rundontwalk
0
No votes
Voters: None
Speedchuck (formerly Dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
1
5%
Voters: Iron_Dwarf
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
gwilikers6
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
colonialbob
0
No votes
Voters: None
Iron_Dwarf
6
32%
Voters: nutella, Kylemii, gwilikers6, speedchuck, Kites, colonialbob
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sig
1
5%
Voters: Kenway
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thumb! I was paying attention! (host/dead/non) Day ends at poll end. Don't forget to post your votes to the thread or you'll be arrested too.
11
58%
Voters: dunya, lapluie, TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis, MacDougall, sprityo, Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, JaggedJimmyJay, Jackofhearts2005, insertnamehere
Total votes: 19

Kyle voted ID
Kenway voted Sig

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:15 pm Who is bad?
Poll ended at Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:07 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Rundontwalk
5
26%
Voters: speedchuck, colonialbob, nutella, gwilikers6, Kylemii
Speedchuck/Dunya
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gwilikers6
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
2
11%
Voters: sig, Kites
Colonialbob
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
You guys what if we have to lynch Jack? What if he’s the big bad? (host/dead/non)
12
63%
Voters: Marmot, Iron_Dwarf, JaggedJimmyJay, DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy, sprityo, MacDougall, lapluie, Scotty, Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis, dunya
Total votes: 19

Kyle voted for RDW
Don't see Kenway vote?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:24 am Who killed GWill?
Poll ended at Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:18 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Rundontwalk
4
24%
Voters: speedchuck, nutella, colonialbob, Kylemii
Speedchuck (Dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
1
6%
Voters: sig
Colonialbob
1
6%
Voters: rundontwalk
Sig
1
6%
Voters: Kenway
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
How are Rico and friends so bad at this game? Good guys aren’t supposed to die. (Host/Dead/Non)
10
59%
Voters: MacDougall, JaggedJimmyJay, lapluie, Marmot, Jackofhearts2005, Dragon D. Luffy, MovingPictures07, Epignosis, Scotty, sprityo
Total votes: 17

Kenway voted for me again
Kyle voted for rdw

I'd love to say kenway was mafia and I killed him thus saving the game for town. HOWEVER, I'm not really that trusting of my vig ability to say that's the case. The question than who do we believe is mafia Kenway or Kyle?

If it's kyle someone misdirected mafia kill that simply and we should be able to clarify that as soon as the other players check in. Than it's quite literally easy sailing to civ windom.

If nobody misdirected anyone than it had to be Kenway. Which we should look into his actions, but it won't tell us much.

I'll reread the thread later tonight/tomorrow. However, I need to know what everyone did tonight to try and narrow down who could be mafia.

Right now mafia can only be between Speed, Kites, and Bob. WIth either Kyle or Kenway being mafia.

The other option, which it could be is that my brother died, however I can't kill my brother and he's mafia. So that would mean Kyle was mafia and the mafia nightkill was redirected.

[mention]nutella[/mention] Did you redirect anyone?

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

And before anyone says, this could be my fake background you can easily look at how I've played this game to prove my role.

I did lay low for a large amount of the time and while I've always been pro civ I was careful with my Nightkills.

Now I wouldn't assume 100% that kenway was mafia but I see no other reason why I'd have switched sides.

If we believe Kites, than Nutella could've have done anything.
If kenway was mafia Nutella is cleared.

That leaves Speed or Bob.

Speed attempted last minute to save ID by voting me out, this means he could be mafia.

The other still tin foil read is that Kites is my brother and is the last mafia member.

All remaining town, hopefully 4 to 1, need to reach an agreement on the off chance that Speed is the last mafia member. Since that means our vote would be 3 to 2 anything other than 3 votes on Speed will result in a failed lynch against him.

Another reason we're down to one if he stole a vote and we had two mafia members and no other vote/lynch influences than town would loose.

So that means with it being 4 to 1 we actually have one more phase
Mislynch
3 to 1
NK
2 to 1

I suggest everyone says their actions and we go from there.

Okay so the down and dirty of my role was that I could win with either town or mafia as long as I didn't kill a mafia member at night. If I did I'd be moved from the red to the green on the main page. I also have a brother on the mafia team who can win with the civs as long as I stay alive. And any night actions I use on them will fail.

sooo if my brother is still alive just out yourself let us lynch you and we win the game.

SO while Kenway flipped town he must've been mafia since nothing else could've caused me to switch from teams.

Well shit! I can't chat much right now, but I did target kenway. I've been fairly convinced he was mafia and I need to think some things over there's a chance he still was and is a seemer.

I want to lynch nutella today though.

Kyle and bob are probably both civs

In case i die tonight.

Nutella, speed, and kites are on my short list of scum. In that order. Rdw flip makes me think speed is slightly better.

If all else fails look at kenway

And kites wow I'm ashamed according to flavor host posts we're pals, bros, friends, buddies. Why would you want to lynch me? Join me vote nutella and together we can lead the civs to victory.

Sig/Kites Not the leaders town needs, but the leaders they deserve.

linki: Nope I haven't targeted anyone for two phases I believe and my last target was Kenway. He's super hard to kill though none of my shots ever landed so I gave up.

Tomorrow we lynch nutella and we'll get another phase. Hopefully the mafia kill fails which would give us time and I suggest the vigs, if there are any left besides me, don't target anyone. I don't plan to either.

Can I say I told you so yet?

Has anyone looked baxk over the draft phase and see who gave mafia their roles and who rhey gave roles to?

I suspedt given the distancing we saw the mafia didn't gove each other anything and have played a very independent minded game and that this was a tactical choice

The plan is overly complex and I still don't get it so i won't be lynching based off of that alone.

I will be keeping my vote on Nutella since that's the way to go.

I'm fairly convinced Nutella is mafia. Literally every mafia member so far has been under suspicion at some point and almost lynched we just kept choking this is the same thing with nutella. Her reasoning at the beginning of the game made sense, but she never really gave solid reads and is still blendy. So I'm voting there, this is a combination of my own thoughts and the reads on her from literally the start of the game.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:08 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:04 pm I'm very conflicted about my reads atm. :P

So let me try to clean up my post.

If we believe Nutella misdirected me, we should lynch her, since that means she promoted early. If we don't think this is the case than she's most likely a civ.

RDW is in my opinion most likely mafia for his various actions already talked about prior to last day phase and for trying to say he couldn't be mafia due to his role. Which is meaningless in this set up.

If RDW is mafia than either Bob or Speed is his teammate.

If we don't think RDW or Nutella is mafia we should turn around and look at other more blendy players which would be Kites and Kenway. I still don't like that Kenway wasn't active in BTSC chat, but I feel like mafia would've killed Kyle or tried to influence him. This works the same for Kyle as it does for Kenway. So both wouldn't be on my list today.
Why are you ignoring the fact that RDW/speed literally can't be mafia teammates

Why?

Also i dod forget th bow but do we have any bow misdirect and if so why woupd a civ change my target to Collins of all people. Also there's no reason for me to lie if im wrong amd mafia I get lynched whcih gives covs more time.

However, i doubt I'm wrong.

Actually I'd rather not lynch rdw, if he had two lives he'd have been less concerned about dying when we almost lynched him last time. Therefore he promoted when everyone esle did si he cant be mafia. Thoughts?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:06 pm was that night phase an off night for Nutella (assuming she hadn't promoted)

Ah good question I didn't consider that I was assuming and still am she was promoted. I also feel like with the mystery of Collins death she'd have said she misdirected unless she was mafia.

And since it was night 2 nobody else had promotion except for the mafia team.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:12 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:10 pmAssuming they don't have special powers, than it brings me back to my point that Nutella must be mafia since I was redirected Night 2 and only another flier could've done that.
............. you're right

I remember giving up on that point because someone (ddl?) claimed to have misdirected Quin's misdirection but.... Nutella is actually the only flower that could misdirect you at all

Exactly my point, the only person who could've redirected me is the one person who has the means to redirect both as a flier and and with her ability.

Kenway once again voting for me, like he's done on week reasoning since day 1/2.
He tunnels harder than something that tunnels alot.

And we would only lynch kites if we don't find the other main people, (RDW/Nutella) scummy.

Though and this is a new thought I'd also look at Bob, he's seem to gotten himself really buried in mechanic/role usage which doesn't seem to help much since we have no idea what mafia might have done or if they have any special powers.

Assuming they don't have special powers, than it brings me back to my point that Nutella must be mafia since I was redirected Night 2 and only another flier could've done that.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:04 pm I'm very conflicted about my reads atm. :P

So let me try to clean up my post.

If we believe Nutella misdirected me, we should lynch her, since that means she promoted early. If we don't think this is the case than she's most likely a civ.

RDW is in my opinion most likely mafia for his various actions already talked about prior to last day phase and for trying to say he couldn't be mafia due to his role. Which is meaningless in this set up.

If RDW is mafia than either Bob or Speed is his teammate.

If we don't think RDW or Nutella is mafia we should turn around and look at other more blendy players which would be Kites and Kenway. I still don't like that Kenway wasn't active in BTSC chat, but I feel like mafia would've killed Kyle or tried to influence him. This works the same for Kyle as it does for Kenway. So both wouldn't be on my list today.

I'm very conflicted about my reads atm. :P

sig wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:08 pm
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:15 pm If you kill me (a town) how many more days until lynch-lose? Cbob is more obviously scum.
It's 8-2
so
Mislynch and mafia kill
6-2
Mislynch and mafia
4-2

We have two phases assuming the mafia is the only ones that kill and I don't use a vig shot which I may or may not do.

I could go for Bob, RDW, or Nutella this phase. However, I'd like to hear why RDW thinks Bob is mafia.

I'm calling it RDW and Bob are one or both if they aren't it's Speed maybe Kenway.

The only thing I've got on nutella is she seems to have not had a solid stance all game and has been blendy, while that's her early game play I'd look more solid reads now. And I still think she redirected me Night 2 which lead to Collins dying.

So actually I think we should lynch in this order
1. Nutella
2. RDW

One of them is mafia I'm hundred percent certain of this. The other option is to do a 180 and look at the more lurky players and go after them like kites.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:25 pm Can I suggest we Lynch sig first? That way if he's scum town is up one before getting rid of me, and Ill probably die soon by body guarding anyway

This makes zero sense, you're scum trying to buy yourself time. How is town up one, oh right if I'm scum which you haven't proven. You've hoped from crazy theory to the next in this past phase. Especially with when you said you couldn't be mafia since you and ID both had two lives. You're stumbling and trying to trick town to keep yourself alive for longer.

I think we should lynch rdw, i've been on and off again reading him as mafia all day starting with when he tried to get the scum role up until now with his shoddy defense. AND if he's mafia than I'm 100% convicted Speed is mafia and the Don. Since when dunya was a round she pushed for him to get my vig role.

If it isn't Speed his partner is someone I mentioned as being a potential scum buddy and they're worried I'll shoot them.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:15 pm If you kill me (a town) how many more days until lynch-lose? Cbob is more obviously scum.

It's 8-2
so
Mislynch and mafia kill
6-2
Mislynch and mafia
4-2

We have two phases assuming the mafia is the only ones that kill and I don't use a vig shot which I may or may not do.

I could go for Bob, RDW, or Nutella this phase. However, I'd like to hear why RDW thinks Bob is mafia.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:47 am So if RDW is mafia, that leaves Sig or Kyle.

If RDW is town, Sig, Kyle, and/or speedunya.

(This assumes Kenway and I are telling the truth)

I've been down to lynch RDW for awhile. I also really dislike his current defense that the balance of the game is messed up so he and ID both couldn't be mafia. This doesn't make any sense given that we had a draft.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:27 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:09 pm @Kenway @speedchuck @rundontwalk Thoughts?
This is a pretty interesting point, but I have a couple of questions.

1. Does nutella's crit chance matter to this theory? I noticed you linked the two.
2. It's very possible that there is a mafia misdirection ability that, like Ring's roleblock thing, is hidden behind the scenes. What points you specifically to nutella?

Also, why bring this up now instead of days ago?

1. Maybe
2. While it might be hidden behind the scenes it was the first thought that popped up in my head. I could be wrong, but I feel it's an avenue worth pursuing

[mention]Kenway[/mention] [mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]rundontwalk[/mention] Thoughts?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:58 pm Fire Emblem Night 2
Coliniscool has been killed by a critical hit. He was a general who came out of retirement. (Town)[/u]

I'm referring to this, it was night 2 so before anyone had promoted and the text makes it clear I was the one who carried out the kill. However, as I said then and now Collins wasn't my target. Being a flier means I couldn't have been redirected by anyone other than a flier. It would make perfect sense for the mafia assuming nutella was on their team to misdirect me onto someone who seemed civvie for two reasons. One it knocked out a civ and two it could potentially get the town vig, who at that time was a town read, lynched.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:37 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:59 am I didn't hear anything about my action failing
Have you promoted? What's your new role?
Yeah, wyvern knight. Misdirect every night with a crit chance

This would explain some of the extra kills and general fuckery that's gone on. It would also explain why Collins died when I targeted Wilgy. Since nutella is mafia and redirected my action. We're both fliers so she'd have that ability however, at that time only scum had their promotions.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:48 am As for the vigs, I don't feel like they're super reliable. When was the last time we had a crit kill?

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