The Syndicate

I really messed up tunneling Saber, I almost made a very bad error with my first SVS couldn't be killer post. Sorry again about that.
The mechanics of giving mafia 2 votes was really interesting I've never played a game like that before.
Good job to all who played especially Epi, Nijju,and SVS
And thank you thellama for hosting it was a fun game.
I look forward to playing with y'all again and not being as messy next time.

WOW amazing like wow that was so stressful but we did it.

Im voting SVS as well for both your reasons as well as thre ones I stated.

Does that tie in someway, killing him seems foolish. SVS hasn't been back

His first vote was on Russ not much though if we are saying, SVS is Killer he ruined their plan. Do we remember when he voted?

Who did DW vote for last night

This does seem like a strange move for Killface to do, but we were the only three online and he didn't comment at all about anything and just voted for roxy.

I think her day 6 vote was damning evidence. Why did SVS switch from Russ who she thought was mafia. She said it was since she wanted people to vote for him. This is a good excuse, but I'm not sure I believe it. I think SVS is Killer at this point, her not voting for Russ was strange the only logical reason would be to tie the vote and try to save Russ.

Day 5 is what is making me hesitant about who to vote for both Saber and SVS voted for Russ,
then Day 6 Saber didn't vote while SVS voted for Saber, why if Saber was mafia would he not vote on a crucial day?

It is a good show, season 3 was meh though.

Am I correct in saying we only have about an hour left in the phase?

FOr Day 6 we didn't know if Russ was mafia so it would have been
KIllface: ?
Simon: Cookie
Phil: ?
Sinn: ?
Wednell: ika

In voting for Saber, SVS was attempting to save Russ/Phil from a lynch we would have mislynched Saber and we would have had 6 players after the night kill. 3 mafia and 3 civs.

We lynched Russ this leads me to think we had a tie and it was only luck that it went for Russ instead of Saber.

What are your thoughts on this and did I clear up the confusion?

This means SVS voted for Saber and tied the vote on Day 6 if Saber had been lynched instead of Russ we would have had an equal number of mafia, after the Night Kill

Right know there are only two but Yesterdays Day 6 we had 3 mafia left.

I was basing my first theory on only 2 mafia on Day 6 when we had 3 then.

Actually nevermind I was wrong.
I messed up I thought we only had two mafia players left at that point and forgot about the third.

I was thinking 8 people 2 mafia members left Russ/Killer I forgot about the third.
Remembering this has actually convinced me SVS is mafia

So my previous theory of my other post was
Day 6 mislynch of Saber, -1 civ 7 players left. 2M/5C Saber is civ and SVS is Killer.
night 6 -1 6 players 2M/4C
Day 7 Lynch SVS 1M/3C
Night 7 -1 civ 1M/2C the last two civs would have lynched Russ who would have been saved by SVS when she lynched Saber

HOWEVER this was WRONG, I thought we had two mafia left not three.
with three mafia players if we had mislynched Day 6 we would have lost to the mafia. This is why SVS voted for Saber not Russ they were betting the tie would go in their favor and Saber would me lynched handing the mafia their win since it would have been

8 players 3mafia 5 civs
Day 6 mislynch 3M 4C
Night 6 kill 3M 3C
Using Killer ability any tie would be broke the mafia could just vote all together for a civ.

Day 6 mislynch would have been Saber with SVS double vote tieing it up and resulting in Saber being lynched

Once again I screwed up my other theory, I forgot the number of mafia. Though in doing this I'm convinced SVS is killer. Does this make sense ik I 180 on this, but this could be the only reason SVS voted against Russ, yesterday but not two days ago.

Looking at day 6 I'm not sure SVS is Killer her vote would have tied the Saber/Russ this could have been devastating. She was one of the two suspected of being killer why risk being exposed if it resulted in Saber being lynched, this would have cleared saber of being Killer allowed us to Lynch SVS next phase, then Russ the one after. This seems very risky especially considering she went after Russ so much, and the pay off seems weak.
If this was their plan
we had 8 people ifSVS was Killer it would go like this
Day 6 Saber lynched flips civ, SVS confirmed Killer. We would be down to 6 lynched Saber/NK 4 we would have known Russ was the last mafia member and lynched him loosing the game for the mafia. It would have made more sense for a Killer SVS to lynch Russ

On the flip side she targeted Russ so much yet didn't vote for him this seems weird to me. Not the behavior of Killer though.

Is SVS the type to not vote for a mafia member no matter what or will she vote for the benefit of the team?

Saber didn't vote, was this to avoid attention, as he is Killer or was he just AFK?

Ike was new to the forum as well correct? This could explain why he killed who he did, but why would Killer continue with the random kills? This seems like something a new mafia would do, hence Saberfish who is also new to the game.
Saber also hinted to have been an Xtycles seeing how he didn't blow up this was a lie. I think out of the two SVS or Saber, Saber is more likely to be Killer.

Would we be made aware in the night results if the Sisterhood of Chaos formed or would that not appear?

If Saberfish flips civ I'm going to look really foolish, but I think we should lynch Saber tomorrow.

Epi who do you think the last two mafia people are?

I want to lynch Saber today I'm very certain he is mafia.

Either he is Phil or Killer, if he isn't Phil or Killer then SVS is killer. Those are the only reasons why the lynch didn't go through.

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voting for Saber would tie the vote is SVS or Saber is killer

"Well not voting is Silly"
Magic eight balls saying something is silly must be very insane

Let me correct that don't vote for top two

I agree Gman don't vote

But I'm very curios how this will reveal who Killer is?

Where has DisgruntledPorcupine been do you get kicked if you miss to many lynches here or are you just empty space?

I can honestly say I'm not sure about Russ leaning mafia sure but I would rather we lynch Saber I'm more confident he is mafia.

Oh I see, it is partially a gut read I don't think she is mafia and I know she isn't Killer. She was one of two who voted for Timmer that would have pushed Timmer over the other votes and since he wasn't lynched, I am of the mind she is innocent.

WHy kill Mac's Mom he did nothing? Saberfish voted for Mac's Mom he was the only player to do so. Could he have killed Mac's Mom?


@Russtifinko no idea for Epi my posts are a combination of post. I've been harping on my Killerface thoughts since when I started posting.
I think Saberfish is Killerface though I will wait to vote to see everyones thoughts on this

Back to an early post of mine about Killerface

sig wrote:1. Epignosis
DharmaHelper (2), G-Man (16) 10%

2. Timmer
nijuukyugou (8), Made (14) 10%

3. Metalmarsh89
S~V~S (13), HamburgerBoy (17), Roxy (18) 14%

4. Sig
Elohcin (9), Mac's Mom (10), Cookie (20) 14%

5. Long Con
Metalmarsh89 (4), Scotty (7), MovingPictures07 (21) 14%

6. Cookie
Epignosis (3), timmer (11) 10%

7. MP
TinyBubbles (12), Spacedaisy (19) 10%
dealing with living players only
MetalMarsh died this means one of these three was Killface S~V~S , HamburgerBoy, Roxy.

Or killface is someone who didn't vote Sig, Saberfish, Ika, DisgruntledPorcupine, are the only four who didn't vote correct? Saberfish voted and switched right?

S~V~S , Roxy, Saberfish, and DisgruntledPorcupine

Hamburger can't be killerface and Ika is dead
Any of these four are Killer, I'm leaning that whoever killerface was they didn't vote day one and then joined in late to yesterdays lynch.

Sorry about that, I started school this week and honestly thought I had another 24 hours.

So nijuukyugou is a cleared civilian imo.
After tonight one moreXtacles will be dead tonight, if Saber is still alive I strongly encourage we lynch him. Am I correct in saying the mafia no longer has the ability to night kill?

thellama73 wrote:Guys I'm at a debate watch party. Will do the post when I get home. Probably an hour late. Thanks for your understanding.

Oh the Republican Primary debate I take it?

Well we lynched Made, he wasn't a civilian, but he wasn't mafia either. I would need to look back before committing to a lynch.

I don't like this Roxy bandwagon, I also don't like how Epi seems to have discounted and belittled my Killerface thoughts. Reading through Roxy's post she doesn't seem like mafia to me, for that reason I'm going to follow her lead and vote for Made, the amount that Roxy is defending herself and how genue she seems makes me think she isn't mafia. I think this is a bandwagon and that she is clean.

@SVS I find Saber's vote suspicious, but I already think he is mafia.
I think ikas vote is weird as well. Who did Hamburger vote for last phase?
Saberfish, Ika, and DisgruntledPorcupine all didn't vote day 1 then both saberfish and Ika join a bandwagon. I think one of them is mafia. I'm not convinced of Roxy being mafia so I'm going to hold off on voting.
What is everyone's views on hamburger boy?
And Tiny what do you think about today?

I'm not sure about Mac's Mom he is lower on my mafia list since I doubt two mafia would vote on the same person so soon, It doesn't seem like your mafia right know either.
Idk I just really find Sabers posts odd and think he is mafia it is a gut read. Plus he made it sound like he had a huge reveal but never said anything.

Since Tiny has said last game she was a civilian and she didn't this time I found that odd.

For Timmer the only person he really suspected and voted on was Saberfish.
I still think Saberfish is mafia, however if a better candidate appears I would lynch them.
Though I find Ika vote strange he didn't post and then he lynched cookie who already has many votes on her, Ike also didn't vote day 1.
Ike who would you like to lynch and why?

@Roxy I didn't notice Saber claiming? looking back I couldn't find it but even if he did claim I would stand by my vote.
If Cookie flips mafia good I do Ika voting for Cookie interesting.
More on that after we see how Cookie flips though

We only have thirty minuets, again to those who haven't voted I think Saber is mafia if I'm wrong it gets us much closer to catching Killer. At this point we already have a smallish pool of who killer could be and lynching Saber would decrease that, I find his earlier vote to be suspicious, and as I said I really do believe he is mafia. I'm not sure about Made so I would prefer not having him lynched I would need to read more of his posts and the arguments to lynch him, but I could be fine with a Cookie lynch as well, not as happy as a Saber lynch, but it would be okay since he has pinged me. However, at this point I don't think we should lynch MP I don't see any strategic advantage of lynching him, over Saber.

LC a vote for Saber would be better then a vote on G-man, next phase we can talk to G-man if he continues to not answer then we can look at a lynch, but going after someone insanfied is a waste of a vote imo, we won't be able to go back and gain much information either way Gman would flip.

Also if Saber is flipped and isn't Killface it will narrow it down some. We will know Killerface either voted for Metal or didn't vote last phase. I believe Saber is mafia and if he isn't we will still gain some information. Though I think he is mafia.

I can honestly say I'm torn right know on who to vote for. My top choice would have to be Saber, I'm trusting my gut that he is mafia and someof his posts have seemed odd. I can also see the argument that he is killerface.
depending on today's results I could see myself going after Mac's Mom, he hasn't posted much of value, but I want to see how Saber flips before going after Mac.

@Roxy I never assume genders, on a faceless internet site you could have picked your name from anything, so it is always good to be clear. You completely discount what I think about how you vote that is fine, but you seem to have an attitude and just blow off what I said. The whole point of mafia is to point what you find suspicious so should I have not commented at all or you are just going to ignore and not care what I say, not a very good strategy.

I think one of the three who voted for Metal is Killface and at the very least mafia. Saber could be mafia but why if he was killface would he ask about ties in the thread and not in BTSC or even Pm to the host/mod.

Tiny what do you think of the game so far who do you find the most suspicious?
Hamburger boy, who would you like to vote for this phase and why?

1. Epignosis
DharmaHelper (2), G-Man (16) 10%

2. Timmer
nijuukyugou (8), Made (14) 10%

3. Metalmarsh89
S~V~S (13), HamburgerBoy (17), Roxy (18) 14%

4. Sig
Elohcin (9), Mac's Mom (10), Cookie (20) 14%

5. Long Con
Metalmarsh89 (4), Scotty (7), MovingPictures07 (21) 14%

6. Cookie
Epignosis (3), timmer (11) 10%

7. MP
TinyBubbles (12), Spacedaisy (19) 10%
dealing with living players only
MetalMarsh died this means one of these three was Killface S~V~S , HamburgerBoy, Roxy.

Or killface is someone who didn't vote Sig, Saberfish, Ika, DisgruntledPorcupine, are the only four who didn't vote correct? Saberfish voted and switched right?

Writing as I read and justgoing to voice some thoughts,
First few pages just not much, a back and forth between Epi and Mp not sure what to think.
(page 4) hamburger boys second, and third posts, they seem weird, but not to suspicious. Kinda like he wants to post but didn't have anything to say. So he could either be posting just because or trying to avoid suspicion

Page 5 Roxy pinged me, saying he/she? wouldn't vote for new players and would vote against anyone who voted for a new player. I'm all for voting for a new player and I think saying lets not lynch a new player is a good way for mafia members to slip by, they could either be new players or justify not voting for new players who are mafia by saying they don't want to vote for a new person.

Page 7 SVS makes a good point about MP/Epi not sure if it is real or fake, I will need to consider it more and read their defensive's.

Mac's Mom comes this phase and posts alot, but he is only joking with members and posting fillers.

Page 9 Elchin votes for me even though it seems we had a few suspicious people, I don't know if this would ping me as much if this vote wasn't directed at me, but this seems like an easy way to vote day 1 with no consequences, it will most likely not go anywhere and you avoid mislynching if you're mafia. If this bandwagoned then you lynched someone who didn't defend themselves and have a good excuse when they flip civ.

Page 10, Scotty saying I'm a safe lynch, not sure if this is an attempt to bandwagon or not, though I don't like it.

page 11 Mac's Mom voted without providing reasoning correct? This along with the fact that none of his posts have had substance is making me suspicious of him, he has posted so he isn't a no show and have said enough to be present but not so much that people will question him.

Page 12 almost caught up, Cookie voted for me that pings me. Metal flipped Civ, quick question is there a list of who voted for who, on my other sites one is posted with the results however I didn't see any?

Scotty says people voting for me could have snowballed, yet he was a player who said I was a safe lynch, know he didn't vote for me though so he I'm not sure about him, if he was mafia he could have easily voted for me and used that I was MIA as an excuse, so he is looking cleaner.

nothing I can comment on but I will be looking back more later, Mac's Mom again with his posts still nothing of substance.

So Scotty was exploded meaning he was an Xtacles, but who was Elohcin did it not say or did I miss it?
Obviously what I said early about Elochin and Scotty was wrong though I'm still suspicious of the people who voted to lynch me.

I agree with Epi about TinyBubble not saying she is civilian is odd, , so I don't see why if she was clean she wouldn't say she was a civilian. This isn't enough to lynch her but worth noting.

I could vote for Saberfish though I would like to see this stuff that Saber gathered/saw first.

I was playing Ultimate Frisbee for Sports merit badge jumped in the air crashed into someone, fell twisted my ankle and the other person fell on top of it. Thanks
the doctor says 2-3 weeks with no physical activities and I need crutches to get around thankfully it wasn't broken though

Hello all, sorry about my very late start, I just got home from Boy Scout Camp today with a sprained ankle springing me a day early.
I will read through the thread today and might post a bit, but maybe nothing until tomorrow since i'm beat. If anyone could sum up top suspicions that would be great but I will be reading through either way. Again sorry about not being here for the first phases, and real quick green is the color for off topic yes?