The Syndicate

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:04 pm I feel like the obvious reason for the LC kill would be if SVS was town and Scotty was a wolf. What if Scotty cursed himself?

Feels like w would rather just be able to say clearly "I wouldn't make that kill"

Are we to assume Scotty trusted one of us to say it for them while commiting to the bit?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:02 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:00 am How we managed to yeet a 0 poster over anyone else is baffling to me honestly.

What scenario is anyone like "yeah I'll take the 4/15 before we bring those odds down to 4/8 or 4/10 where townie players can show first effectively making odds more like 4/6 or 7"

I don’t think it was a bad elimination even if I voted Michelle instead. The entire rationale is that solving everyone else can change the subjective probabilities for the zero poster’s flip.

And we’re spared the delibiliting loss of activity.

those subjective probabilities have not had enough time to have actually changed in any significant way, nor have I ever seen them change like so in any significant day 1.

0 poster yeets d1 only stifle town information and solving.

We are not spared the loss of activity, we are spared information that comes with a flip of someone who has at least a small bit of data to observe.

I fundamentally disagree, but it’s probably a strategic dialogue more than one that will help you solve so whatever. I proposed a full team theory, and I’d love your take. You may see voting dynamics that I miss.

Will look for it later. In notify response/top of head thought mode rn.

Also [VOTE: SVS] aubergine.

In reading through LC, I find Scotty to be just town, and now kinda get the SVS wagon. Also skimmed SVS's ISO and they seem to be in range.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:02 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:00 am How we managed to yeet a 0 poster over anyone else is baffling to me honestly.

What scenario is anyone like "yeah I'll take the 4/15 before we bring those odds down to 4/8 or 4/10 where townie players can show first effectively making odds more like 4/6 or 7"

I don’t think it was a bad elimination even if I voted Michelle instead. The entire rationale is that solving everyone else can change the subjective probabilities for the zero poster’s flip.

And we’re spared the delibiliting loss of activity.

those subjective probabilities have not had enough time to have actually changed in any significant way, nor have I ever seen them change like so in any significant day 1.

0 poster yeets d1 only stifle town information and solving.

We are not spared the loss of activity, we are spared information that comes with a flip of someone who has at least a small bit of data to observe.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:50 am I'm... confused

Me too fam.

Just skimmed the Longest Congest and Scotty unlikely made this kill while at the same time receiving this curse. So that's neat.

Gross.

2 of our dead as no voters feels like a personal offense to me.

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:10 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:52 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:30 am Anyways, I think DrWigly is town for the way he handled EOD yesterday

@DrWilgy Can I ask why you scumread robyn? They are probably my top townread right now

Robyn is aware enough to point out that I've observed the dichotomy between them and Bereft. Energy level is not what I associate with T Robyn. Movement on poll is very forceful.

If they get a pelt doing as they do, fine, but until they flip someone, or flip themselves, it's hard to not observe such a heavy hand with interactions as such with Bereft and not see it as knowing.

you should play with me more, occasionally i am town captain

also aren’t my interactions usually heavy handed?

Your interactions seem to vary as much as anything else, but I feel as if I've seen it more from W Robyn.

I've never seen passive Robyn flipped d1 and not been town.

Those aspects are very minute in where I see you falling though. I could just as easily start yelling Bereft's the wolf and there'd only be a 10% difference between you, until I have known cause of the dichotomy.

Other aspects such as wagons/patterns I'll likely review later to see if this guy feeling matches reality.

How we managed to yeet a 0 poster over anyone else is baffling to me honestly.

What scenario is anyone like "yeah I'll take the 4/15 before we bring those odds down to 4/8 or 4/10 where townie players can show first effectively making odds more like 4/6 or 7"

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:46 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:45 am good morning.

This game feels very post and vote inefficient.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Why?

Fixing yesterday's mistakes. This is also tentative.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:30 am Anyways, I think DrWigly is town for the way he handled EOD yesterday

@DrWilgy Can I ask why you scumread robyn? They are probably my top townread right now

Robyn is aware enough to point out that I've observed the dichotomy between them and Bereft. Energy level is not what I associate with T Robyn. Movement on poll is very forceful.

If they get a pelt doing as they do, fine, but until they flip someone, or flip themselves, it's hard to not observe such a heavy hand with interactions as such with Bereft and not see it as knowing.

good morning.

This game feels very post and vote inefficient.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Just feels like it's hard to not yeet the 0 poster and that's wild to me.

Robyn w.

Hopefully Seanzoe is a hit. Gl gl.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine I gues

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:53 pm @RondoDimBuckle please don't chaos goblin this eod, it's chaotic enough, go seanzie

no @RondoDimBuckle keep it up

cfd Robyn?

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:49 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:48 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:47 pm I still think a Seanzoe vote at this point is low ev

what the fuck are you talking about

this is implicitly saying "kill scotty"

Why would I say that. I'm saying kill someone who isn't afk.

you'll be afk tomorrow, you don't have the right to kill active scotty over wagonomics, thread health and solving supersedes the nonsense you're saying and doing

Lol right to kill in a game of mafia. Get out of here.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:47 pm I still think a Seanzoe vote at this point is low ev

Now I really wanna vote Seanzie

Are we doming but through other players?

I love trial by combat where you can have someone else die for you

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:49 pm Michelle > Seanzie > Scotty > other

Sure

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:48 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:47 pm I still think a Seanzoe vote at this point is low ev

what the fuck are you talking about

this is implicitly saying "kill scotty"

Why would I say that. I'm saying kill someone who isn't afk.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Or Michelle.

Just pick one of them over the 0 poster.

I still think a Seanzoe vote at this point is low ev

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm If wilgy town we get jjj

agreed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:41 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:39 pm I wanna know why we think Bereft is town. I skimmed them, but the ISO feels like warm milk.

Hard to explain in limited time, but I think he has been approaching the game from the right mindset. Consider reading his ISO again under the following assumption: "What if DrWilgy was Bereft?"

You're not the same player, of course, but there may be a link in your mutual inscrutability.

I'll take your advice and utilize it later.

A yummy spread

Poll runs till Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


‪☆Princess Abigail☆‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Bereft‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Cape90‬
1
7%
Voters: Michelle
‪DarlingMonroe‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪DrWilgy‬
1
7%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle
‪JaggedJimmyJay‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Long Con‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪LoRab‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Michelle‬
2
13%
Voters: Thunal33, JaggedJimmyJay
‪robyn‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪RondoDimBuckle‬
2
13%
Voters: Bereft, DrWilgy
‪Scotty‬
2
13%
Voters: S~V~S, ☆Princess Abigail☆
‪Seanzie‬
2
13%
Voters: Cape90, robyn
‪S~V~S‬
2
13%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, Scotty
‪Thunal33‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪ts account‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
If you're comfortable while you're doing it, you're probably doing it wrong. (Host/mod/non)
3
20%
Voters: Roxy, Sloonei, fingersplints
Total votes: 15

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:41 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:39 pm I think killing wilgy here is possibly the best move post count and effecting the game if Michelle is wolf then wilgy also

He can't keep getting away with it.gif

Legit laughed pretty loud at this one. Lets dome?

Let's goooo

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:41 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:39 pm I wanna know why we think Bereft is town. I skimmed them, but the ISO feels like warm milk.

you should get your brain checked, friend

That's just rude. Everyone knows I don't have one of those.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:39 pm I think killing wilgy here is possibly the best move post count and effecting the game if Michelle is wolf then wilgy also

He can't keep getting away with it.gif

I wanna know why we think Bereft is town. I skimmed them, but the ISO feels like warm milk.

If not Michelle, I think solving the Scotty wagon is still better, but I don't wanna throw away someone who may be vocal town.

Michelle has parsable data, Seanzoe doesn't.

Posterity

Lorab seems towny enough. Produced reads and I'm having a hard time in finding ulterior motive behind them. Wouldn't yeet.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:20 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:32 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

I dunno, but I’m gonna be pissed if I get D1’d again by a bad Jay only for town to lose to him in endgame.

Understandable.

No thoughts on your voters while responding to this inquiry feels weird.

I’ve offered thoughts on each of my voters in my reread as I saw them vote me.

You cherry picking this particular post to shade me is weird

Am I cherry picking or am I responding to a notification based upon you quoting something, where specifically you said you didn't know within the quote re a question that I had prompted?

Michelle is, underwhelming, but I can at least see where t Michelle sees Robyns inquiry towards J as weird.

I wouldn't yeet.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:14 pm as it stands from my gleaning afew pages.

Could vote Bereft, Scotty, Robyn.

Gonna start skimming ISOs.

Why Bereft and robyn?

Gut

Darling could yeet.

Not much there, but one of the few posts seemed to be a buddy effort to Jay.

Would be a lackluster yeet, but could yeet.

as it stands from my gleaning afew pages.

Could vote Bereft, Scotty, Robyn.

Gonna start skimming ISOs.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:07 am I said earlier that DrWilgy was my top town read. That was, of course, silly spam. I was bored. However, I do have a faint town lean based on this guy:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

As Bereft correctly observed, this was the wagon when Wilgy made this post (Scotty receiving votes from Bereft, Cape, and JJJ). Wilgy is a very wagon-oriented hunter, and I think this looks like an authentic bit of "I have no time to actually read, but I can see the poll and come to a conclusion, so here's a conclusion" read.

Grain of salt blah blah, but it's something.

You're a grain of salt

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:04 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

Why did you choose these names? They seem random

Scotty Thunal were in the lead 3-2 so I inquired why.

Scotty plus their wagon makes up the final list.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:32 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

I dunno, but I’m gonna be pissed if I get D1’d again by a bad Jay only for town to lose to him in endgame.

Understandable.

No thoughts on your voters while responding to this inquiry feels weird.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:40 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:32 pm @JaggedJimmyJay what are your top reasons for sussing Scotty?

It would be dishonest of me to call them my reasons, because I am kind of sheeping this one right now. But I think some others raised valid gripes or were otherwise convincing:

- Scotty calling Long Con's "unhinged" post towny was goofy.
- As S~V~S climbs the town ladder, I give her instinct more credence (that Scotty was off in resisting LC's suspicion of her)
- His read on LoRab didn't actually make sense (this thing) -- acknowledging a "difference in approach" with respect to her aversion to town reads and then basically ignoring that difference when suspecting her.
- Bereft has never openly town read Scotty, and I think he has a strong grip on the game right now.
- I decided my own town read was biased by my desire for players to be involved, and he was the first to take up that banner.

I might add one new gripe: his suspicion of you seemed kind of opportunistic. He even agreed with your reads

Also @DrWilgy asked for a case, so there's one. It doesn't belong to me though apart from my participation in the wagon.

Thank you

Good morning

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:37 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:35 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:34 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:32 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:32 pm I'll move when I find a wagon I'm comfy with

abbie uh

i know it’ll be difficult for u to read me here

When has being wrong ever stopped me

indeed

UwU

Don't think I can handle another bad game though if I'm totally honest

Aye, your goated, don't worry my friend.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:53 pm @DrWilgy is my top town read.

Thank you. Me too.

Thank you. You too.

Thank you. You too.