The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:57 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:56 pm Like, if we lose at this point to soup, why did we reveal so much? like, it's not a misyeet losing the game here, it's blabbersolving that did us in.

And why all of a sudden this phase?

Creature has been in constant fear of the soup

yes, but since when is it game over?

Like, if we lose at this point to soup, why did we reveal so much? like, it's not a misyeet losing the game here, it's blabbersolving that did us in.

And why all of a sudden this phase?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:54 pm If we mislynch today we're possibly losing tonight.

Idk, your persistent fear of a loss in this phase is giving me some really sus vibes.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:33 pm Can we survive soup tonight? I think sabie should always vig someone like Paopan or DrWilgy and then we'll be left tomorrow with illario, Sloonei, JPIC, Paopan/DrWilgy.

You have a dangerous obsession with killing me.

Like it's been constant since the start, we've had multiple flips, but you've remained static on it.

Why is that? is it because it's easy?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:02 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Try me bitch

Post Alexa death Ilario pinged me.

Rn: Sabie OR Pao. Likely Pao. Not W/W but likely W in here.

If incorrect, I could also slap that Ilario button.

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:42 am My bad on alexa, sorry about that.

TMI on Alexa's slot?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:28 am DrWilgy, how confident are you on Paopan?

68% accuracy. Much higher than the 42% I'd give my second vote desire.

For being generally inconsistent and scummy hip firing all game.

afew posts I pointed out earlier that ding'd me:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:17 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:14 pm Gonna be inactive for today cos I'm celebrating new year

Anyway, Gonna vote for
Alexa
Ilario
Sabie
112

PS: Happy new year to all

No Wilgy vote. Kappa.

Yeet Pao.

Happy new year

Pao, who suspected me day 1 didn't even mention me in suspicion day 2 as seen above. Inconsistent.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:51 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:51 pm Okay guys. Save TSP. Get wigly and 112

Ah yes, the team of Wilgy and 112. The indomitable Duo.

You confuse me Pao.

Hip firing for 112 and I, even though 112 and I were nowhere near team compatible. (and now that I've quoted it, this was a save on TSP kek)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:42 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:39 pm I unvoted Sabie and Sig. I'm having voters block. SOMEONE GIVE ME PILLS!!!

THIIIS IS SOOO ANTI-TOWNY.
Let's lynch this instead

Explain this one to me Pao. How is this anti-towny?

Hesitating towards Sabie and Sig when I want to be correct on who I vote?

Spewing during the d2 chaos that this is anti-towny without context. I believe that this was when TSP was under fire as well.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:54 pm Voted Pao.

Meh day.

Meh day? What do you mean?

No motivation. Just autoing the Pao.

Voted Pao.

Meh day.

Are we implying there's no more soup kill?

Why?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:40 pm I don't get why Sloonei keeps getting excluded from POE though?

He's cute.

Idk, I feel like he's been towny.

I don't think he should be allowed to lylo if we feel we are close, but I'm kinda in the same spot.

I thought I had explained eod1?

My goal was to make myself a target because of my role.

It didn't work.

Now I hunt normally.

That should dodge soup while explaining.

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:25 pm IMO Wilgy/Paopan are both good candidates for vig shot in the POE

Just fuck my shit up fam

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:53 pm Wilgy, Sloonei, Creature are 3 wolves poe clamped and dining out on me imo.

I don't think I've been hard pressed on your spot. Do you feel like I've been?

I think there are only 3-4 people that can read me well enough to *confidently* catch me wolfin. One of those people haven't done so yet this game. If anything that should indicate me as town, but I'm surprised this person hasn't just called me town yet. Pondering that one.

Also your analysis of my gameplay is incorrect. Just based on my general behavior and trends, I'd think from an outside perspective that I'm more likely to be bussing Sabie if I was a wolf as I wavered. I'm not really good at bussing, I'm much better at flinging shit at the walls and creating chaos when I get bussed as wolf.

Also asking for a w game and a t game to compare how I play would likely leave you without much. I'm just bad at both roles and get carried by my team.

I believe I've told Mac this before, but if you want to consistently catch me as wolf it's because I'm dodging important questions.

I still think there is a W in Pao/Sabie, but not both.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:57 pm GTH Wilgy/Pao are the likeliest w/w there? Like Pao's sudden/confident push on Wilgy that is just as suddenly dropped in the final minutes could be bussing when they see the momentum onto Wilgy (I can't quite figure out the wagon sizes at the time), and Wilgy has had a super stale SR on Pao for the entire game that has never changed.

Pao hasn't done anything to change my read. They are inconsistent and I don't believe them to be legitimately hunting.

Let's just yeet them. Not I I could yesterday, y'all didn't let them in top 8.

Why me?

Mainly thing keeping me from Sabie, is a lingering that Pao and Sabie are not W/W

I think Pao still needs to be yeeted.

I was right about Sig being town at least. I'll take that. I'm not sure if that opens my suspicion back up on Sabie or not.

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:07 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:06 pm What's up with TSP being in the lead? Mechanics?

Falcon claimed a red check





tempted to call this a derp

That'd be a pretty silly derp IMO.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Kinda ot, kinda explain, why my presence is so hit/miss rn, post Covid fatigue is a motherfucker. Only saying this because I haven't been able to read as much as I want, and I figured Creature with his post on my online presence may be concerned because of it. Feel icky about my misread on 112.

What's up with TSP being in the lead? Mechanics?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:10 pm I keep seeing DrWilgy pop up in the online list. Why?

Probably because I'm glancing at the thread trying to catch up again before getting pulled away to other things.

Let's put Pao in this 8 and try again. I want a redo.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:55 pm how is sabie only at 6 now?

Because I'm hesitating on Sabie.

I SR, but Its such a flimsy SR that I keep saying 'if I'm wrong it's about sabie' in my head.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:54 pm Which of 112 and DrWilgy should we save here?

Just promise to flip 112 if you decide to be wrong on me after this lol.

Like enough people I TR are on Guillo to make me think 'maybe this is the thing' as I don't have a read on them personally.

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:51 pm Okay guys. Save TSP. Get wigly and 112

Ah yes, the team of Wilgy and 112. The indomitable Duo.

You confuse me Pao.

Testing the waters of a Guillo vote.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:48 pm The Guillo wagon is pure

What makes Dya and JPIC town?

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:47 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:47 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:46 pm [VOTE: UNVOTE TSP VOTE 112] aubergine

Both are scummmyyy IMO

But why 112 > TSP?

TSP was sitting at like 4 all day i think? tabbing into him suddenly at 8 feels like the whole seanzie thing all over again

Kinda agree. I don't understand his case outside of 'too little impact for how many posts he has' Is that it?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:46 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:22 pm 112
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime

Everyone scream orderings of these people at me

TSP fits as deeper wolf type slot. 112 is literally rand to me on how they flip. Wigly seems wolfy, which usually means he's not.

I'm the least wolfy person here.

Here's my legacy if I'm yeeted:

Just throw 112 and JPIC off the boat.

And C4 for that matter.

@alexa you talk to me about 112.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:43 pm So our lynches are

hollowkatt
sig
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime

?

As it stands I'll attempt to self pres onto TSP and Sabie.

Still think 112 should go over me.

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:39 pm I unvoted Sabie and Sig. I'm having voters block. SOMEONE GIVE ME PILLS!!!

THIIIS IS SOOO ANTI-TOWNY.
Let's lynch this instead

Explain this one to me Pao. How is this anti-towny?

Hesitating towards Sabie and Sig when I want to be correct on who I vote?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:38 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

Okay but suppose I didn't want to find and read that stuff and you only have 45 seconds of my time to convince me in bite-sized pieces

If you are convinced by a 45 second blurb of me stating 112's progression on Dizzy was jank as hell, I have some concerns.

I mean I wouldn't but have you seen my sig

I'll humbly disagree with your sig then.

I unvoted Sabie and Sig. I'm having voters block. SOMEONE GIVE ME PILLS!!!

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

Okay but suppose I didn't want to find and read that stuff and you only have 45 seconds of my time to convince me in bite-sized pieces

If you are convinced by a 45 second blurb of me stating 112's progression on Dizzy was jank as hell, I have some concerns.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm The one thing I'll agree with wilgy on is the assessment that I am trying to squeeze in hunting on limited time and I come in when I can. I wasn't sure on dizzy as I'm not good at reading him. If I were his teammate I would never had killed ender and I would have probably not even talked about him at all if I didn't have to.

Which is at least better than what we are getting from Sig, I'll give you that. I suppose you are correct, I don't see where you claim that if you are W.

I guess I don't see where Sig makes the claim on shooting Nut if he's Wolf either.

Mfw you two are just both town.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Objectively wrong.
3ps can have wincons that align with town such as Survivor who just wants to live or one who can change their alignment to match another player's (like Town of Salem had a Universal Backup that changed wincons to match the role they backedup)

I think I have too much PTSD for any 3p to be left alive, pro town or not.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm what i want to know is why anyone would believe a guillo claim?

Because I'm actually a 3p dumplin. Whoever eats me becomes the dumplin king who has to force feed dumplins to other players. The dumplin king and I win if we manage to feed dumplins to 10 players.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:26 pm Welp DrWilgy is trying now. Not sure what to make out of it.

Implying I haven't been trying this entire long day cycle.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:26 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:23 pm Sabie ISO skim

Pao and Sabie aren't W/W at least.

Man, this is why I always have a hard time reading Sabie, their reads are blocked into paragraphs describing feels more so than reads resulting in having to extrapolate the intention which is off to me. First real read block seems to be like this:
Sloonei TL
Mac SL
Dizzy TL
Ender SL
MR TL

I will say the defensive talk about Dizzy isn't reassuring: "Dizzy was being suspected for the scotty vote and defending marmot but they provided an explanation that was plausible and made sense."

Slams a vote on me and dips

The next day though: "but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons"

But this is contradictory to what was said about me previously:

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:24 am I mean I guess I can agree that when wilgy is town and participating he does at least have reads. This game so far he has said he planned to find townies to join and his only read was everyone should vote sig when sig hasn't participated. Also marmot did the joke with wilgys intro thing. I would be interested to hear if wilgy has any other thoughts on the game or just continues to not be involved.

Which I interpret as more of a null read.

*concern*

Claims the Shot on Ender... Perhaps this would indicate not W/W with Sig as I don't imagine two teammates both claiming T shots.

Alright, I'm done skimming. I don't know what to think about Sabie. There was some slight Dizzy interactions that make me think W/W compatibility, BUT it also looks like that Sabie is hunting but with limited time available that I can vibe with? I don't think Sabie is teammates with either Pao or Sig... If I had to pick between Sabie and Sig, I still think Sig has a higher chance of being town.

why?

Because Sig didn't defend Dizzy. In what few posts he has I read them as rand v. Because Sabie and Sig aren't on the same team.

Idk. There's not alot to go on when it comes to Sig, but there's enough for me to sus Sabie maybe the best way to describe it.

Sabie ISO skim

Pao and Sabie aren't W/W at least.

Man, this is why I always have a hard time reading Sabie, their reads are blocked into paragraphs describing feels more so than reads resulting in having to extrapolate the intention which is off to me. First real read block seems to be like this:
Sloonei TL
Mac SL
Dizzy TL
Ender SL
MR TL

I will say the defensive talk about Dizzy isn't reassuring: "Dizzy was being suspected for the scotty vote and defending marmot but they provided an explanation that was plausible and made sense."

Slams a vote on me and dips

The next day though: "but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons"

But this is contradictory to what was said about me previously:

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:24 am I mean I guess I can agree that when wilgy is town and participating he does at least have reads. This game so far he has said he planned to find townies to join and his only read was everyone should vote sig when sig hasn't participated. Also marmot did the joke with wilgys intro thing. I would be interested to hear if wilgy has any other thoughts on the game or just continues to not be involved.

Which I interpret as more of a null read.

*concern*

Claims the Shot on Ender... Perhaps this would indicate not W/W with Sig as I don't imagine two teammates both claiming T shots.

Alright, I'm done skimming. I don't know what to think about Sabie. There was some slight Dizzy interactions that make me think W/W compatibility, BUT it also looks like that Sabie is hunting but with limited time available that I can vibe with? I don't think Sabie is teammates with either Pao or Sig... If I had to pick between Sabie and Sig, I still think Sig has a higher chance of being town.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:05 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:04 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:01 pm I have 2 more votes, someone at random tell me arguments for C4, TSP, and Guillo.

c4 is >rand v IMO

Serious take is reading bits of the arguments over the last few pages makes me think Guillo isn't the way to go
It's basically all wack but it's a really nuanced kind of wack

Would this nuanced wack be rand v or agenda-y for Guillo?

IME when Guillo's posting with an agenda it's completely shameless
I imagine he could mix it up but not feeling it here, here it seems like he's genuinely thinking hard about these things

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