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- Mon May 16, 2016 8:36 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Endgame
*pokes BWT with a noodle who has a tongue... My tongue*
- Mon May 16, 2016 2:32 am
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
You may do as you please Marmot friend.
- Mon May 16, 2016 1:05 am
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
K Marmot friend, add this to your signature somewhere:
- Sun May 15, 2016 11:24 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I figured as much... I was taking everything you said backwards since I called you by name in our chat do I get signature rights? (this is also why I wasn't actually suspicious of Epi)Metalmarsh89 wrote:We had this really excellent plan on Day 4. After you voted for Epignosis, then LC, Sorsha and I were going to pile on behind you at the last minute for fun.DrWilgy wrote:I figured out Marmot in our chat really easily, I just had nothing to validate my suspicion on him until after that silly last day wagon.
Linki - lol kk lemme think o sumptin
- Sun May 15, 2016 11:12 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I couldn't start a wagon on you even if I wanted to... It was me and the captains vs the DF!Long Con wrote:Lynching me?DrWilgy wrote:Oh man... 4 civ votea on me that last cycle prevented me from lynching LC! Im so razzled!!!
*removes tongue*
- Sun May 15, 2016 11:02 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I figured out Marmot in our chat really easily, I just had nothing to validate my suspicion on him until after that silly last day wagon.
- Sun May 15, 2016 11:00 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Regardless of Razzlebazzle. Good game! Thank you Llama!
Maybe, it goes against my rules to play multiple games similarly.
Maybe, it goes against my rules to play multiple games similarly.
- Sun May 15, 2016 10:59 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Oh man... 4 civ votea on me that last cycle prevented me from lynching LC! Im so razzled!!!
- Sun May 15, 2016 10:58 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Never try harding again.
At least I got 3/4 before it ended.
At least I got 3/4 before it ended.
- Sun May 15, 2016 1:33 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Views on the votes.
DFaraday - DrWilgy (9), Metalmarsh89 (10), Sorsha (11), Long Con (12) 33%
DrWilgy - Scotty (3), Epignosis (5), birdwithteeth11 (6), DFaraday (8) 33%
Missed - SVS (never) bbq%
I'm pretty sure the only reason I lived is because a captain or 2 wanted me to.
DFaraday - DrWilgy (9), Metalmarsh89 (10), Sorsha (11), Long Con (12) 33%
DrWilgy - Scotty (3), Epignosis (5), birdwithteeth11 (6), DFaraday (8) 33%
Missed - SVS (never) bbq%
I'm pretty sure the only reason I lived is because a captain or 2 wanted me to.
- Sun May 15, 2016 10:16 am
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Based on what happened yesterday, I suspect you no longer. Also, I don't think that you and LC are teammates still and considering my suspicion on him, it decreases my suspicion of you.
- Sun May 15, 2016 9:51 am
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
LC, explain your vote.
@Sriracha, because LC has had a roller coaster opinion on me. I've gone from bad to good to bad to good to bad. What ever gave LC the opinion that DF was bad bad bad?
Everyone who voted me today, I have been fighting tooth and nail this game. I had no way of telling what the results of DF's flip would be, only a guess. I explained this, and set up the wagon that shouldn't have worked. Please look at LC and compare his actions to how I've read them. If anything, read him as saving me yesterday, putting him on my team, meaning his lynch should be just as justifiable as mine.
@Sriracha, because LC has had a roller coaster opinion on me. I've gone from bad to good to bad to good to bad. What ever gave LC the opinion that DF was bad bad bad?
Everyone who voted me today, I have been fighting tooth and nail this game. I had no way of telling what the results of DF's flip would be, only a guess. I explained this, and set up the wagon that shouldn't have worked. Please look at LC and compare his actions to how I've read them. If anything, read him as saving me yesterday, putting him on my team, meaning his lynch should be just as justifiable as mine.
- Sat May 14, 2016 10:14 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
No it does. You are wrong about me being bad, but I don't know about you and I need your input on players who aren't me.Epignosis wrote:It clearly doesn't matter what I think.DrWilgy wrote:Epignosis wrote:I don't really care. When I spend a chunk of my time during the first 24 hours and people like Sorsha come in and go "epiphany" at the last minute, what can you do?
Epi what do you think of Marmots and LC's vote. I see you draggin on with Sorsha abit, but I wpuld say that LC's is weirder.
I also need SVS and LC to get in here. SVS where were you and what are your thoughts. LC, why? What you did made no sense.
- Sat May 14, 2016 10:06 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Ugg... Typos are disgusting.
*produces saliva*
*produces saliva*
- Sat May 14, 2016 10:03 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Epignosis wrote:I don't really care. When I spend a chunk of my time during the first 24 hours and people like Sorsha come in and go "epiphany" at the last minute, what can you do?
Epi what do you think of Marmots and LC's vote. I see you draggin on with Sorsha abit, but I wpuld say that LC's is weirder.
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:59 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Tomorrow there are 7 remaining.
Lylo?
Lylo?
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:39 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
So, my DF and LC theory is wrong. LC, why was this the case?
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:36 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I'm not that smart Marmot friendMetalmarsh89 wrote:This whole time... I thought you were licking people because you were Lischen.
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:34 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I did say that angels lie, but where did I lie to you Marmot friend?Metalmarsh89 wrote:DrWilgy... you lied to me.
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:33 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I would've rather you say "I'm voting ro save Wilgy"Long Con wrote:Voting DFaraday because he's baddie bad bad!
What makes you think DF is bad?
Linki - WOO I LIVED!
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:30 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Actually, while I agree with Marmot friend, I'm just as suspicious of Marmot as I am Epi. It's a coinflip between them.
Wouldn't it be clever for a captain to ask "how do you know what the captains will do?"
Linki - Oh son of a bun...
Wouldn't it be clever for a captain to ask "how do you know what the captains will do?"
Linki - Oh son of a bun...
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:13 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
...20 min left.
*The guillotine glistens, Wilgy lightly presses his tongue up against it*
I guess my final word is this: DF and LC are connected to the Zeebs. I think Epi is bad with them, but he can be swapped with Scotty, MM, or anyone really. His temmie connections to the other 3 are harder to establish, but I still see him as bad regardless.
Linki - I would assume so, "Barry Lydon" is french for "Friend of an Angel who's tongue reaches all"
I hope SVS shows up and ties it. I dont trust LC to show up and any good to come out of it at this point.
*The guillotine glistens, Wilgy lightly presses his tongue up against it*
I guess my final word is this: DF and LC are connected to the Zeebs. I think Epi is bad with them, but he can be swapped with Scotty, MM, or anyone really. His temmie connections to the other 3 are harder to establish, but I still see him as bad regardless.
Linki - I would assume so, "Barry Lydon" is french for "Friend of an Angel who's tongue reaches all"
I hope SVS shows up and ties it. I dont trust LC to show up and any good to come out of it at this point.
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:06 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Marmot wins! Game over! the answer is yes according to most lores. Licking angels lie quite abit!
- Sat May 14, 2016 9:03 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Llama, permission to be unbelievably attractive?thellama73 wrote:Permission denied.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thellama73, permission to change my vote?
Linki - and would and angel lie?
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:42 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Yay me!Metalmarsh89 wrote:But... Wilgy's not dead... yet.Sorsha wrote:No, it only really came to me when I was reading Wilgy's pre-death posts today. It was like an epiphany.Epignosis wrote:
Did you utter this at any point yesterday or the day before?
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:41 pm
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- Topic: Barry Lyndon - Endgame
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Epi... Question answer plz.
Ah... Marmot is correct. I forgot!
Ah... Marmot is correct. I forgot!
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:30 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I HAD MY TIME WRONG!
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:30 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Did the poll not end?
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:29 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
If not that combo... Its Marmot, Scotty and 1 unknown.
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:28 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Oh well. Rip me. Back to Slacker Wilgy from now on.
Baddies are LC, DF, Epi.
Baddies are LC, DF, Epi.
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:27 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Oh, you said "both" in that post. My b for missing key words.
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:14 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I wonder if SVS will make it in time to vote. Her missing votes is uncharacteristic of her.
Epi what are your thoughts on her?
Epi what are your thoughts on her?
- Sat May 14, 2016 8:03 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I have this constant gut feeling that Epi is bad, but I feel that in a DF vs Epi environment, Epi would be better to keep alive due to contributions.
The thing that's odd about Epi is his joke vote for Sriracha day 3, but then shift to me day 4. I feel like an Epi that truely thinks I'm bad wouldn't have wasted day 3.
MM, why would've you preferred Epi vs Wilgy over DF vs Wilgy? Didn't you just say you thought we were both civ?
The thing that's odd about Epi is his joke vote for Sriracha day 3, but then shift to me day 4. I feel like an Epi that truely thinks I'm bad wouldn't have wasted day 3.
MM, why would've you preferred Epi vs Wilgy over DF vs Wilgy? Didn't you just say you thought we were both civ?
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:38 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Regardless, read all votes past mine as "chose to kill Wilgy or Not" I think that mindset will help in the upcoming days and will drive the game a positive way.
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:35 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
4 on me meant that there were only 5 votes left to go around. If I voted anywhere that wasn't on a me voter, they would've preserve voted and killed me anyways.
If captains bus another teammate here then yay! If DF is civ and they kill him, I was wrong, and I'll reevaluate, plus it would make LC look better along with being able to better read Zeebs interactions with players.
If captains decide to murk me, and DF flips bad, you'll know who to spank.
If captains bus another teammate here then yay! If DF is civ and they kill him, I was wrong, and I'll reevaluate, plus it would make LC look better along with being able to better read Zeebs interactions with players.
If captains decide to murk me, and DF flips bad, you'll know who to spank.
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:27 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Regarding voting DF, it's odd that put of the now living players, DF was the only on Zeebs didn't mention. Also... If I vote someone who didn't vote for me my chance of survival is 0%
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:25 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Yes and Zebra happened to comment on MP right afterwards...
Marmot friend didn't read my analysis...
;__;
Marmot friend didn't read my analysis...
;__;
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:11 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Zebra interacted with your predecessor, so you get by today Marmot friend!
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:09 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
DFaraday, It's literally the only chance I have to catch a baddie here.
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:09 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 3
Interesting... This is the only relevent comment regarding Zebra, and it would support the LC bus theory if DF flips bad...DFaraday wrote:I agree that it's most likely that the kill was not sent, which would make agleaminranks look suspect.
I also think it's pretty likely that the Zebra voters are not bad. I doubt the baddies would bus a teammate this early in the game and with the ratio as it was.
I could see this. Maybe the team is DF, LC, Zebra... and one other?
Shit, that would mean LC votes for me and I die anyways. Oh well. Remaining voters, do you wanna see what happens when DF is put in the hotseat? I think even if I go down here we can get very useful information by stacking votes here.
I'll drop the 1st one seeing as the chances for saving myself are damn near 0.
Linki- I don't think so. But comparing the players Zebra interacted with vs not, DF is the only living player that was missed.
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:04 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Well... I tried my hardest. Time to go back to being a slacking memeslinger.
*begins to lick himself*
The only situation where I live and we get a baddie is we all vote on someone who voted for me AND they don't have teammates that stack on me. I propose DF. I don't think Zebra interacted with you at all did she?
*begins to lick himself*
The only situation where I live and we get a baddie is we all vote on someone who voted for me AND they don't have teammates that stack on me. I propose DF. I don't think Zebra interacted with you at all did she?
- Sat May 14, 2016 7:01 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
if we vote someone who hasn't voted for me, and they are bad, and 1 teammate stack on me... we can't beat out their numbers... again unless both their teammates have already voted for me. (not likely)
if we vote for someone who has voted for me, and they are bad... both teammates would need to stack on me to kill me. (plausible)
conclusion... A civvy will most likely die tonight
Linki-It was DF all along!
if we vote for someone who has voted for me, and they are bad... both teammates would need to stack on me to kill me. (plausible)
conclusion... A civvy will most likely die tonight
Linki-It was DF all along!
- Sat May 14, 2016 6:50 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I figured I'd do an in depth Zebra look before I potentially die,
First off to set Zebra's tone for her baddie game,
This being a bus would make sense considering Zebra posted this previously,
So here's suspicion based on this,
Playful - Scotty, MovingMarsh
Seems Bussy Fishy - Long Con
From this I would like to vote LC, but must now hold my vote for the chance of preservation.
linki - Hi Sriracha!
First off to set Zebra's tone for her baddie game,
a2thezebra wrote:Can't argue with that.sig wrote: Zebra was first that means she is mafia and excited to play lets lynch her. :P
a2thezebra
Irrelevant Epi post.a2thezebra wrote:Didn't you see Epi earlier? Fake votes are in.
Chimes in when BWT and Sorsha are brought to subject.a2thezebra wrote:I get BWT being a common Day 1 lynch target and all but what about Sorsha?
Declines leaving BWT and Sriracha out of lynch possibility. Did she want to leave these civs as potential lynch candidates or was she looking to just gain civ credit?a2thezebra wrote:Betting with the odds eh? I can dig it. Not my style though, I rarely leave out any options for a Day 1 lynch besides myself.
-Hmm... Makes me look at LC slightly better. I'm reading these interactions as Sriracha and Zeebs aren't teammates.a2thezebra wrote:LC, unless I'm mistaken, just indirectly admitted that his reasoning for not voting Sorsha today isn't solid.
Hmm... Quite the reaction to Epi. I'm unsure how to read this really. I need to look back later.a2thezebra wrote:I didn't actually mean the latter, that was just to pressure him to a reaction. I base my reads off of reactions to pressure. You should know this by now.Epignosis wrote:a2thezebra wrote:Goddammnit sig, why are you so scummy as town and so innocent as scum?Fail.a2thezebra wrote:I think he is, he is. And it's a sorry excuse for a permanent vote.DrWilgy wrote: Sig did you just vote me for promoting discussion?What classifies a post as being bad? Gambler's fallacy has been brought up this game, so does that make my subject point irrelevant? I get the feeling that you are trying to strong arm me here Sig.sig wrote:I'm going with Wilgy no on topic posts, and very few off topic posts, his one truly on topic post, is bad imo.
linki: I see Epi ninjad in and voted for MP.
sig
I finally know your meta sig, I've played enough games with you. You're bad and you're going down.
Hmm... Zebra hasn't gone after teammates so far. Serge being civ, Sig being civ, and you'll see I'm civ soon enough. Did Zebra avoid casting doubt on all her teammates?a2thezebra wrote:I could get behind a Wilgy or Serge lynch.
Playful exchange with Scotty.a2thezebra wrote:Shhhhhh we don't talk about things I'm responsible for.Scotty wrote:Just like you felt confident sig was bad based on knowledge of his meta?a2thezebra wrote:I mean that from what I know about Wilgy based on my experiences with him in other games, this feels way more like his baddie game than his civ game. I'm just being honest.Long Con wrote:What do you mean by this?a2thezebra wrote:Your meta's looking pretty bad right now Wilgy, to be honest.
a2thezebra wrote:Then what are you getting at by asking someone who reads too much into things to read a certain thing and to think about it?S~V~S wrote:Dude, you're usually the guy who reads too much into things, not meRicochet wrote:What should I focus on or try to extract from it?S~V~S wrote:Ricochet, I recommend that you reread sigs ISO, and think about what he said.
Linki~ you're a zebra, maybe>?
Suspicion on SVS changes into a discussion of style. I don't think SVS and Zebra are teammates.a2thezebra wrote:That's what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at (if anything, you could just be trying to look like you're contributing) and if what that is happens to be something sinister than I want to be aware of it. What makes you think I ever pay attention to nuance? I'm all about vibes.S~V~S wrote:Becasue I am seeing something I thought was obvious? And usually I expect Rico (or you for that matter) to pay more attention to nuance than I?a2thezebra wrote:But what motive do you have for asking someone that you feel is an over-thinker to analyze a certain area?
What motive do you have for trying to turn this into something sinister?
Playful comment towards MovingMarsh.a2thezebra wrote:Don't sweat it G, it's not like I was going to vote to lynch you for lurking or anything...
a2thezebra wrote:Since I was wrong once does that mean I should just stop trying to read people?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Just like you were so confident with sig?a2thezebra wrote:I mean that from what I know about Wilgy based on my experiences with him in other games, this feels way more like his baddie game than his civ game. I'm just being honest.Long Con wrote:What do you mean by this?a2thezebra wrote:Your meta's looking pretty bad right now Wilgy, to be honest.
BWT exchange. Reading this as a teammate conversation is harder than non teammate. Going to consider it the latter.a2thezebra wrote:I agree, and that's not the point. My point was that it was odd for SVS to ask someone that she feels is an over-thinker to overthink a particular area.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I'd rather have players that over-analyze and over-think. I think it's easier to catch baddie slips that way.a2thezebra wrote:But what motive do you have for asking someone that you feel is an over-thinker to analyze a certain area?
a2thezebra wrote:It's time to remove the tinfoil.Long Con wrote:That's the only possible meaning of "you both look bad", isn't it?a2thezebra wrote:So you're saying we're teammates? Okay.Long Con wrote:This whole back-and-forth has reached the level of contrived.a2thezebra wrote:Why is that?Long Con wrote:You both look bad right now to me.
Final exchange with LC before death. I can easily read this as a teammate conversation. Perhaps because I know my own alignment it's easier, but I think the purpose of this conversation was to take me down with Zebra, also set up some sick distance/bussing for LC. "That is a fake ass vote" I think is the real icing on the cake. Zebra absolutely tell the truth about a teammates bus vote.a2thezebra wrote:That is a fake ass vote if I've ever seen one.
This being a bus would make sense considering Zebra posted this previously,
I think Zebra had given up on her life when she posted this. After this LC comes in and starts posting about how we are both Suspect.a2thezebra wrote:Great, a self-preservation vote makes me a likely lynch. I try not to play darts on Day 2, I usually get that overwith on Day 1. I still don't see why DrWilgy isn't the obvious lynch.
So here's suspicion based on this,
Playful - Scotty, MovingMarsh
Seems Bussy Fishy - Long Con
From this I would like to vote LC, but must now hold my vote for the chance of preservation.
linki - Hi Sriracha!
- Sat May 14, 2016 3:33 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Whoever you find the scummiest that has already placed thier vote would be preferable for my survival.
Marmot what are your thoughts on SVS?
Found anythin fun in your catch up?
Marmot what are your thoughts on SVS?
Found anythin fun in your catch up?
- Sat May 14, 2016 1:11 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
1. So, this doesn't make sense from a teammate perspective. If I'm a teammate and I know Zebra is bad, why do I need her to fabricate things that make her worth a lynch? Unless you don't think I'm competent enough to bus a teammate who lead a bs wagon on a civ. If Zebra was trying to get caught with that line of hers, did it work? If it didn't wouldn't you consider the possibility of it not being fabricated to be slightly greater at the least?Epignosis wrote:To answer DrWilgy's questions:
Civilians frequently look bad, and that doesn't mean they are. One cannot know if zebra was intentionally trying to get caught until after the lynch. Knowing the alignment now, I can comb through the thread and determine if I think zebra was trying to get lynched or was trying to avoid getting lynched. It's called a "lynch analysis," which I thought you would like better since it's not a "night kill analysis." -> 1DrWilgy wrote:Please if you can validate Zebra's lust to get caught when I was the only person who pointed out the suspicion of this post, do let me know. Hey Epi, if this was a baddie trying to get caught. Why didn't you see it, catch it, and call Zebra out on it? (this one's important)
zebra was under a lot of pressure, but voted you and was the very first voter. There was no intention of holding the vote in case self-preservation was necessary. -> 2DrWilgy wrote: " " - Epi
I'm starting to notice a habit of you leaving vague smileys in place of thoughts, why does this make you ponder?
You are insistent that mafia inaction rule the course of the game. I am not. I am considering both possibilities. Are you seriously insisting that people trying to consider why someone was killed or why there was no kill at all is a bad thing?DrWilgy wrote: "LC raised the possibility at the time. Note zebra's reaction: zebra doesn't contest LC's accusation implied accusation, but rather wants to know why LC thinks what he does. Then zebra states the obvious and waves it away with a dismissive, "Okay."" - Epi
So this one is interesting since you are once again allowing baddie action to rule the course of the game. Analyzing NK's, reading into baddie actions that could have been Zebra trying to bring me down, It could've been LC trying to get me to go down with a teammate of his. There are many possibilities based on these quotes that you drew your assumptions from that you don't consider... But clearly you are no fool, so it's the WIFOM.
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DrWilgy wrote: "Then there's the missing night kill that gave the impression that the kill was missed. I think the night kill was missed on purpose to drive the attention away from zebra and Wilgy's contrived exchange." - Epi
That would imply that I gave up the kill for mind games which would be dumb, really dumb. Similarly to how civs never "no lynch" a mafia should never "no kill", but you honestly believe that I did that even though I still was receiving heat both before and afterwards. Also if avoiding attention was my play style this game would I be posting as much as I am? again with the claim of aggro play, but I don't see how you can call my play this game as avoiding attention.Not at all. Only one captain kills. The others cannot submit the action for the killer. You could be a non-killing captain with a deadbeat partner, but your response to me didn't allow for that possibility. You immediately said, "That would imply that I gave up the kill."DrWilgy wrote:Bs Epi. Your angle was that of Zebra and I being teammates. That would mean I at the minimum had some responsibility for the kill.Epignosis wrote:It doesn't imply that at all. I think you slipped.
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I am not even close to through with you.
2. That just seems to match Zebra's MO. I don't know if I've played a game with her where she actually hesitated to drop a vote.
3. I thought about this overnight. It still feels bad, but it doesn't necessarily make the theorist mafia. Mafia kill someone -> someone theorizes why -> theory leads to credit or discredit for someone else, but the mafia who placed the kill are going to use this to their advantage yes? that's why speculation and distrust of night kill judgement seem natural to me and why I see them as bad. I.E. I could claim that ballsy mafia just wanted to credit Scotty, through "Scotty would never do that!"
I guess the main problem with it is that the WIFOM is always poisonous.
4. So, putting myself in the shoes of Zebra's teammate, the angle where I have a responsibility to my team, it's a slip if I say I? when I'm actively forcing the angle of a responsible teammate? That's not a slip, that's me looking at your angle as best as I can and responding to it from the teammate angle. If it makes you feel better, when I tried to look from that angle I didn't specifically think of what captain I was.
I'm waiting for a response BWT. It's actually pretty shady that you'd vote me while not actually looking at this and replying.DrWilgy wrote:I'm not a one man army and that's not what my intention was. I looked and quoted all responces to the "purposely" fishy quote that I could find and all I found were suggestions of neutral or no suspicion. The ones I found were what I quoted. If there are more please point them out to me, for I missed them.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Others did notice it and called it out as well. You act like you were a working as a one-man army here.DrWilgy wrote:/sigh that was the point Scotty.
If the argument was "Zebra was trying to get lynched" that would imply that she made her posts obviously scummy. I being the only player to cry scum on that post, would that make it a obviously scummy post? if a post was obviously scummy, other's would've noticed it and called it out.
Yes actually, and if you read what I had stated, I also noted that the comments afterwards by bwt make me feel good as well. I think it's rather easy to go "ha you blew it" to a teammate and nothing else, which is what you did. BWT made several comments to Zebra through several posts one after another. I don't think that a baddie would format a response to a teammate like that due to them needing to be more meticulous and careful with their replies.Epignosis wrote:You no longer suspect birdwithteeth11, even though you suspect me. This is you reason why:DrWilgy wrote:Here's my new list based on recent events
Scotty or LC still stands, LC with a slightly higher chance of being mafia.
Epignosis
SVS
As of rereading through BWT, I no longer suspect him at this time. I need to relook at Sriracha, DF and Marmot. LC case coming shortly.
That was May 08, 2016 11:23 amDrWilgy wrote:This comment right here and the following one felt genuine. I.e. not talking to a temmie.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Just like you were so confident with sig?a2thezebra wrote:I mean that from what I know about Wilgy based on my experiences with him in other games, this feels way more like his baddie game than his civ game. I'm just being honest.Long Con wrote:What do you mean by this?a2thezebra wrote:Your meta's looking pretty bad right now Wilgy, to be honest.
Never mind that bwt had a much longer exchange with zebra on that topic that you didn't comment on. That's not why I care. This is:
That was May 05, 2016 9:55 pm.Epignosis wrote:a2thezebra wrote:Goddammnit sig, why are you so scummy as town and so innocent as scum?Fail.a2thezebra wrote:I think he is, he is. And it's a sorry excuse for a permanent vote.DrWilgy wrote: Sig did you just vote me for promoting discussion?What classifies a post as being bad? Gambler's fallacy has been brought up this game, so does that make my subject point irrelevant? I get the feeling that you are trying to strong arm me here Sig.sig wrote:I'm going with Wilgy no on topic posts, and very few off topic posts, his one truly on topic post, is bad imo.
linki: I see Epi ninjad in and voted for MP.
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I finally know your meta sig, I've played enough games with you. You're bad and you're going down.
Yet you think bwt is good because he made the same point I did three days later.
1. Sorry I worded that funny, I should've stated what pattern are you referring to? And you are correct that the pattern changed. I need to examine why, and evaluate how I feel about it, at this point I'm leaning that you are bad, and Scotty is good.Long Con wrote:Um.. Scotty and I are the original proponents. This isn't a classification issue, this is who we were discussing. Not up for debate or opinion. -> 1DrWilgy wrote:Also, @LC what would you classify as original proponents?
Epi, it seems as though this is the place to which you have pushed Wilgy, can you respond to this? I don't remember the circumstances of your death and Golden's "super-murder" offhand, so I don't get the context Wilgy is framing this POV within. "Over analysis of night kills have caused very tragic results." is a really vague, sweeping comment. -> 2DrWilgy wrote:Over analysis of night kills have caused very tragic results. My clearest memory of this happens to be your death in a realm reborn. Golden was super murdered because of it and all the players over analyzing it.
I don't quite get what you're saying here. -> 3I believe there is a scale difference in the missing of a kill and who the target is.
That is the same conclusion we all already made, no one is contesting that. Why even say it?? -> 4This would be different if there were kill blocking roles, but I don't believe that there is any way possible for that to be the case.
What BWT said was "I think the missed NKs were a deliberate attempt to try and draw attention onto low posters and non-active players. Looked good at the time, but as you've probably learned from last night, it's much better to try and kill someone. It's the best way to try and cause chaos and confusion."Missing a kill as BWT put it is probably the worst thing a baddie can do.
Hindsight is, as it always is, 20/20... why are you bringing BWT's comment into this? I don't understand some of what you're saying, Wilgy, and when I understand what, I don't get why. -> 5
2. Tragic results was vague, describing it as "easily to manipulate by baddies" would've been better. Also I'm referring to the event in which Epi was killed, and Golden was super framed for it, then super murdered for it.
3. I feel that examining causes of a missed nk, is different from examining who was NK'd. The severity of missing a nk seems too great to not examine, along with not very easy to manipulate. I would suppose It could set up for a frame, but that would also mean the "to be framed player, or players" have to not show up, and that is completely out of baddie control. Examining who was NK'd leads to WIFOM and WIFOM leads to tears.
4. To apply that fact to and credit the theory of the kill was missed rather than the kill wasn't submitted. I couldn't recall if the relation was made on that premise. I know I at least didn't say anything about that.
5. No, I was referring to this quote here that I agree with,
Did I miss anythin?Snip from birdwithteeth11 wrote:Also, I think a baddie not sending in a NK under any circumstances is one of the worst possible actions a baddie could take. To me, it's the baddie equivalent of what a lynch is for the civvies: the most powerful tool at one's disposal.
- Sat May 14, 2016 12:20 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Y'all have a real bad habit of voting for me when I'm not here.
Answering and respondoodlin now.
Answering and respondoodlin now.
- Fri May 13, 2016 5:35 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Hey epi how about a response to my earlier big response to you.
- Fri May 13, 2016 5:35 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
Yes?
Over analysis of night kills have caused very tragic results. My clearest memory of this happens to be your death in a realm reborn. Golden was super murdered because of it and all the players over analyzing it.
I believe there is a scale difference in the missing of a kill and who the target is. This would be different if there were kill blocking roles, but I don't believe that there is any way possible for that to be the case.
Missing a kill as BWT put it is probably the worst thing a baddie can do.
Over analysis of night kills have caused very tragic results. My clearest memory of this happens to be your death in a realm reborn. Golden was super murdered because of it and all the players over analyzing it.
I believe there is a scale difference in the missing of a kill and who the target is. This would be different if there were kill blocking roles, but I don't believe that there is any way possible for that to be the case.
Missing a kill as BWT put it is probably the worst thing a baddie can do.
- Fri May 13, 2016 5:12 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
I'm not a one man army and that's not what my intention was. I looked and quoted all responces to the "purposely" fishy quote that I could find and all I found were suggestions of neutral or no suspicion. The ones I found were what I quoted. If there are more please point them out to me, for I missed them.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Others did notice it and called it out as well. You act like you were a working as a one-man army here.DrWilgy wrote:/sigh that was the point Scotty.
If the argument was "Zebra was trying to get lynched" that would imply that she made her posts obviously scummy. I being the only player to cry scum on that post, would that make it a obviously scummy post? if a post was obviously scummy, other's would've noticed it and called it out.
- Fri May 13, 2016 4:17 pm
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Re: Barry Lyndon - Day 4
/sigh that was the point Scotty.
If the argument was "Zebra was trying to get lynched" that would imply that she made her posts obviously scummy. I being the only player to cry scum on that post, would that make it a obviously scummy post? if a post was obviously scummy, other's would've noticed it and called it out.
If the argument was "Zebra was trying to get lynched" that would imply that she made her posts obviously scummy. I being the only player to cry scum on that post, would that make it a obviously scummy post? if a post was obviously scummy, other's would've noticed it and called it out.