The Syndicate

GG! Thank you for the game Golden!

I felt like I was rather useless that game, subbing into this crazy game then having to play defense for so long damaged my baddie radar. Oh well, surviving has it's merit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy and G-Man:

You both have five minutes to give me your top five suspects.

Your answers will determine which one of you I murder. I have the power.

Cavil, Sokoth, Sig, Drum, Matt

linki - Sorry G-Man, sorry that a non special guy like me didn't get the votes. Your sacrifice won't be in vain!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Safty vote... though, I probably don't deserve it.

vibes are vibes, I can't explain gut feelings. Her patterns were weird, that was all.

What I don't understand is why you're telling me about these baddie vibes you have now of a player who has already been lynched and flipped bad. I wanted to know how you felt her content should reflect on you. I already know S~V~S was bad, so that does me no good.

Hmm... I'm not sure, I can't read my interactions with me from someone else's angle. All I gotta say that if your conclusion is that I'm bad, you are incorrect, I'm just not as special as everyone else, that's all.

Linki - Cuz why?

Safty vote... though, I probably don't deserve it.

vibes are vibes, I can't explain gut feelings. Her patterns were weird, that was all.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Looking back at it... Her tempo felt strange while she was addressing me. It slowly picked up until day 5, but then becomes sporadic.

What does this mean to you?

Generally it gives me baddie vibes. Nothing real strong to go after, but it makes my hair stand up.

Should I vote... G-Man... ?

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You're getting baddie vibes from the content posted by a confirmed baddie? That's not surprising.

Your vote is your own to place.

I wasn't meaning to surprise you. I'm sorry JJJ.

Would you vote for Sokoth if I were to place a vote there?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Looking back at it... Her tempo felt strange while she was addressing me. It slowly picked up until day 5, but then becomes sporadic.

What does this mean to you?

Generally it gives me baddie vibes. Nothing real strong to go after, but it makes my hair stand up.

Should I vote... G-Man... ?

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Matt wrote:Yo Doc why do you think SVS stopped going after you once you used your claim?

Somewhere along the line I stated that "mafia have no reason to side with me", then she stopped. Perhaps she wanted the civ cred for defending me if I flipped.

Like what JJJ? All you stated in regards to my actions was about the transition of my GTH.

Tell me how you feel about S~V~S's commentary making you look bad, even if just in general.

Hmm... Don't really have an opinion on it. I thought for the longest time that SVS swapped on me because of what I stated. There was a slight thought of maybe because SVS was Cavil she didn't need Cylons dead, but that goes against her attitude with Glorf.

Looking back at it... Her tempo felt strange while she was addressing me. It slowly picked up until day 5, but then becomes sporadic.

Linki - If killing me helps bring hope, a stronger hope, please do so. That way a not special person like me can at least contribute something.

Matt wrote:Yo Doc why do you think SVS stopped going after you once you used your claim?

Somewhere along the line I stated that "mafia have no reason to side with me", then she stopped. Perhaps she wanted the civ cred for defending me if I flipped.

Like what JJJ? All you stated in regards to my actions was about the transition of my GTH.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Oh yeah! I forgot about that... I'm sorry that I burdened you. I'm such trash.

It was actually really interesting in the fact that you were incorrect because you pulled up the quote that shifted my GTH on SVS and noted it as "didn't make me feel anything". The transition on SVS didn't come from nowhere it was from that exchange. She referenced a game where I was civ, she was bad, and that I should be playing more like that. She was basically asking me to catch her again... It was one of those hints that I noticed with hindsight that SVS wanted to be caught. (this is why we shouldn't be dealing with Cavil the bugger wants to die)

Is there a reason you didn't discuss this stuff at the time?

It was just a gut feeling, if I were to try to discuss it though, the only answer would be WIFOM.

DrWilgy could've wrote:"Would a baddie SVS really bring up a game where she was bad to me, a civ?"

but that wouldn't lead to anything.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

SokothQultuq wrote:Apparently in my haste I forgot to do the vote. I corrected that today, hopefully not too late.

@DrWilgy - I do believe I've made every effort to answer your questions, over and over. Stop sounding like a broken record. You got a few wires crossed in there I think!

No you haven't. Even though I've brought it up multiple times. You still have yet to comment about my question regarding both Sig and lore. It's ok though, a guy like me probably doesn't mean anything to you.

Hey Siggo, would you like to vote Sokoth or OA with me? I think that would be fun.

Hey Wilgy, would you like to tell me why I am wrong about you?

Oh yeah! I forgot about that... I'm sorry that I burdened you. I'm such trash.

It was actually really interesting in the fact that you were incorrect because you pulled up the quote that shifted my GTH on SVS and noted it as "didn't make me feel anything". The transition on SVS didn't come from nowhere it was from that exchange. She referenced a game where I was civ, she was bad, and that I should be playing more like that. She was basically asking me to catch her again... It was one of those hints that I noticed with hindsight that SVS wanted to be caught. (this is why we shouldn't be dealing with Cavil the bugger wants to die)

SokothQultuq wrote:Apparently in my haste I forgot to do the vote. I corrected that today, hopefully not too late.

@DrWilgy - I do believe I've made every effort to answer your questions, over and over. Stop sounding like a broken record. You got a few wires crossed in there I think!

No you haven't. Even though I've brought it up multiple times. You still have yet to comment about my question regarding both Sig and lore. It's ok though, a guy like me probably doesn't mean anything to you.

Hey Siggo, would you like to vote Sokoth or OA with me? I think that would be fun.

Go ahead and vote for me Sig. A guy like me cant do much, but if you think that you can do your best if I'm dead then do so please!

Though... A question... If OA has lost hope... What puts me in front of OA in terms of priority?

Oh, it's probably not important, but Sokoth's insistence on "why did Wilgy survive" after I claimed Cylon, compared to not questioning Sig's survival at all is strange.

Hi Rico.

Sig's baddie vibes have been dissipating. I think Sokoth's alignment will help me gauge them better.

Oh, hey there Sokoth. Singing the same tune I see.

Still haven't answered my questions have you? Oh well... I guess a guy like me shouldn't expect answers from awesome people like you, I'm just not worth the time.

G-Man... you put me on both the team possibilities. I'm flattered that you'd give a boring person like me such attention.

Admiral, there's Cavil... and then based on recent votes, the players that haven't voted baddie the past 3 days are Sokoth, Matt, Rabbit, and Drum! Based on this, I guess the baddies are Cavil, Sokoth, Matt! maybe Drum! I don't think Rabbit has fallen to despair, and murdered anyone.

So say we all.

Nerolunar wrote:Black Rock died. Weird choice, I was convinced one of the more vocal players would kick the bucket.

Who benefits from killing Black Rock at this point?

A baddie who wants to keep the tempo the same.

Hmm...
What are the chances we haven't been lynching baddies the past few days?

Good job everyone!

Thanks for saving me Dex, despite you being evil and stuff. I wish I could know if you just now turned evil or were evil all along.

sig wrote:Post 9 Wilgy I am and your vote is way late, and I did build a case on you and gace reasoning.

Was that in regards to my vote on SVS and JJJ's ISO? If not I missed it. Did you respond to my response regarding my SVS vote? I skimmed your ISO and didn't see it.

Duel(9)

Ah shit... Missed submitting the vote while writing that post...

@Sokoth don't tell me how to play, and if you want me to get agressive then I'll be lynching you. You still have yet to comment on anything outside the realm of your suspicion on me. I asked you very specifically on 2 other players and you have ignored them.

SokothQultuq

Go ahead and lymch me then Sig. Stop talking about it. You too OA.

While I feel bad about those who are argueing or have argued for my lynch on what feels baseless, the order of scumminess is this Sokoth, Sig, BR, Daisy, OA and DrumBeats (least scummiest).

In regards to me asking everyone for a duel. Why did I see no comments on it. Did I miss it? Enough people want to lynch me, so at least give me this.

Duel(8)

Black Rock wrote:I'm voting for...

Wilgy

#5

linki: Why not? I believe you to be bad. Actually I thought there would be more of a push on you and Epig but the thread moved other ways. It actually makes me suspect you more.

Because I'm civ. Are you still set on lynching me for no reason? I already asked you about this afew times and gave up. Willing to address anything else that I've stated? I'm not going back to defending against baseless claims.

How about we just lynch all the anti cylon players?

Duel(7)

This doesn't feel right. Dex shouldn't have such a lead if he's bad should he?

At the time of his hard defence of me I swore he was civ, but since new alignments were supposedly handed out, idk what to think of him.

Sokoth is still chillin... Sig don't just agree with JJJ before I've replied, there's something odd in there. I'll point it out as soon as Im at a cpu.

I'm not going to vote Cavil... I know that much. A shame no one let me have my battle with Sokoth.

Duel(6)

Linki - Dont lynch me!

Soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi...

Drumbeat's plan sounds bueno, just hard to coordinate... I call dibs on being confirmed 1st.

Duel(5)

Matt wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:@Matt, how about you read what I've recently been posting instead of acting like I'm not involved.

I just said I saw you lurking (but I'm also aware you leave your tabs open even if you're not around) and wanted your opinion on lynching Cavil again.

But I gotcha, I just saw the post where you suggested we wait.

In that same post, you suggested Cavil recruit you. Don't say such things in front of Rico, plz.

Sorry Matt... that was an angry post. I shouldn't be an angry bagel. Feels like only afew people are reading and responding to what I've had to say. That along with constant suspicion got me flustered. ?

Duel(4)

I'll just be in my corner stabbing my Sokoth plushie then... ignore me...

@Matt, how about you read what I've recently been posting instead of acting like I'm not involved.

duel(3)

So say we all (again).

What a shitty law.
This could be read as give mafia more vote power.

Duel(2)

So say we all.

Ugg... I had a bigger paragraph but it was eaten...

Sokoth, why have you, for the most part, been addressing the crowd instead of me? Then, when you do address me, you don't reply to my response. Why?

Constantly going on about me from the 3rd person and not responding to me tells me this: You aren't ever planning on reading what I've stated nor have you had intention of actually reading me different. You aren't going to reevaluate and you are going to stick on me till one of us dies. You are stuck in a loop where you are feeling 100%. Here's the catch, civs aren't 100% and this constant tunneling is far from what I would consider civvie like behavior. Why have you been swapping through "Wilgy may be a Cylon", and "Wilgy's a bad cylon"? Explain this inconsistency to me, for it's over my head. Why did you ignore my comment about Sig? A major factor of your case on me was "Wilgy survived funny so he must be bad". Do you know why Sig survived afew days ago? Why is that not suspicious? Your thoughts on him were "haha idk how to read you", when based on how you've been reading me, it should be "Until someone explains how Sig survives we should lunch him". What about Epi? You left him as good based on lore, yet he's a cylon. How does this add up when several others have noticed that lore is being broken more and more oftenly?

EVERYONE!!
I'm tired of this charade between Sokoth and I. This phase can Sokoth and I have a 1v1? You vote either me or him? My dance partner hasn't been responsive, steps on my toes, shows inconsistency and double standards, and addresses me in the 3rd person all the time instead of talking straight to me (which is rude considering he asked me for this dance).

Also... Looking back on SVS. I don't think she was lying about trying to get caught. She dropped several hints that (looking back now) should've been hard scumtells. Based on this and my previous gut feeling I think it would be more wise to ignore Cavil.

Do we still need to number posts?

Oh... @Sig I recall you stating that my reason for voting SVS was weak. Plz recall that I commented on OA's thoughts before the SVS wagon was a thing.

Guesses on a current Scumteam combo:
SVS, Nutella, Sig, Sokoth, JJJ? Does that work? Maybe SVS, Nutella, Rico, OA, and Daisy...

Duel(1)

Hey Cavil. Recruit me if you can.

I agree with Sig (at least in regards to where are attention should be). I've never been fond of using lynches with unknown repercussions. Let's scumhunt until we are in a position where lynching cavil again is safe.

Dex, you still God?

Baloney(3)

I hope for a swift painless recovery G-Man. *gives a basket of rice, eggs and fish*

Cavil Friend! Who do you wanna lynch tomorrow?

Woo! And such a tight vote too.

The Doctor is very happy.

SVS, now that you are alive again, can I have a hug?

Svs can I have a hug before you die?

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DrumBeats wrote:#7

If you read my posts you'd know Epi. We know all cylons are mafia. We know who 6 cylons are. We know the other 4 are hidden amongst 12 players (assuming none are dead civ cylons that were scumkilled). We know you are a cylon.

Statistics + Information make your lynch the better one imo.

Why are all cylons mafia? I missed this discovery.

End (6)

svs

Trusting that polo vs svs feeling.

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SokothQultuq wrote:Post 2

DrWilgy. I've clearly stated my reasons in my previous posts. Go back and read them if you want an explanation and try and explain away what I've seen. No one has offered to explain how you survived that what was it Week 5 Lynch?

Please lay it out for us.

I

Claimed

Cylon

There's nothing to lay out, and you think I'm scum because I defended myself? Would've you rather that I just gave up and died? How about Sig's survival? That actually makes less sense than mine but I haven't seen you say anything regarding it.

Sokoth, are you a baddie willing to hide behind the "let's lynch Wilgy" boat forever?

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SokothQultuq wrote:So Say we All!

Post 1 - I'm not going to pull any punches here, I'm dropping my vote now for DrWilgy. Based on my previous observations I'm confident that he's a Cylon.

Welcome back to those of you who have passed on and returned. Though we may have to take a hard look at you to decide if you deserve to stay among the living.


I shall post my reads shortly.

Ok Sokoth this is bs. I've asked multiple times for you to address things and you have ignored them, me, and continued voting for me without reevaluating or even responding to me.

DrWilgy wrote:Are we back to lynching me with no reason again? Does Sokoth think there's chance I'm not cylon? That's how he's been phrasing it, and not a good look from my perspective. Why wpuld you vote for someone you can't even properly define? It's well known I'm a cylon.

Please address this.

What does everyone else think of Sokoth? I could vote for him. I don't think he's been scumhunting and my gut is telling me he's a baddie hiding behind the "let's vote Wilgy who may be a cylon, but I'm not willing to define him as a cylon even though he has already been revealed to be a cylon."

End (2)

So say we all.

What's good everyone? We have actual alignments now, and my suspicion of JJJ has lessened based on Glorf not having a team interaction with him

I agree with OA in regardsbto Polo and SVS. Based on thier patterns, I don't think they are on the same team. This leaves me with a sinking feeling though, because I still have my doubts about OA.

Is BR still in the game?

I think I'm going to look to nutella to see what to do next. Talk to you later.

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Ugh... I got super busy the past few days (Wilgettes parent's came to visit) and am sorry I missed. Probably would've voted JJJ if I was here.

Are we back to lynching me with no reason again? Does Sokoth think there's chance I'm not cylon? That's how he's been phrasing it, and not a good look from my perspective. Why wpuld you vote for someone you can't even properly define? It's well known I'm a cylon.

Now I drive to Houston for my little bro bros graduation.

So say we all.

Rip God. For sticking up for me, thanks. Sorry I could save you not. Drumbeats or jjj today, hmm? Yes, hmmm.

I can support a JJJ lynch tomorrow.

Dex wrote:Way to fight the good fight Glorfindel.

We're down to Cavil and Doral. I'd say we're in pretty darn good shape.

My suspicion of ObsAll has cooled significantly on account of her early vote for the Glorf. My three top suspects at this time are Rico, Bea, and BR.

I'm in agreement with you.

Obsure, why did you vote Glorf instead of me?

So say we all.

Why did you vote me while I was silenced Sig? ALSO, why haven't you responded to what I asked a phase and a half ago?

Ricochet wrote:

linki: Well, at least you evade others as well, when it matters.

Get out of here dog. It's my artifact!

Why do you see both of them as good Matt? I'm seeing a 100% bad Glorf and a 70% bad Sig.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Quiet day today.

I like the spread of votes. Generally it means we are on the right track.

I wonder when BR will show up. I wonder if OA or Sokoth will discuss with me. I'm havin an itch that JJJ is bad.

Marmot, why are you being so quiet?

Linki - I think he did both...

I'm interested in your case on JJJ. I haven't found anything to scumread him on, but I would love to hear what you've got and see if I missed anything.

JJJ stated that the event with my defense reminded him of the GoC, his lynch survival, and his defense. I feel that it's more likely for him to be reminded of that incident if he were to know I was civ and genuinely defending myself, similarly to he did in the GoC. The only way for him to know this? he's with Cavil.

Doc, this is total nonsense. Why would I be more likely as a baddie to remember my own play than I would be as a civilian?

Because as a baddie you know my alignment. Knowing my alignment would give you am extra piece to appear in the comparison between you and I, making it more relevant.

Ok. I get it now. Next question, did Glorf survive as human, or did Sig survive. If Glorf was a bad human with a means of lynch survival, would it make sense for him to hold his claim until now and play cylon?

rabbit8 wrote:Wigs I read your post wrong. I wanted to make sure sigs was going to get lynched. Thats why I cast another vote on her. Not all the votes where cast and Bea got a last minute one in there. I had no idea if anyone... would vote for me over sig.

This makes sense. I'm no longer irrationaly distraught and suspicions at your actions.

@Sig

DrWilgy wrote:Who am I throwing shade on Sig?

I still can't find where Glorf has the lead. Can someone please explain it like I'm 5? after then I'll actually dip, need to go get food.

rabbit8 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:Glor is almost lock cleared maybe? idk.

Polo is almost certainly mafia. his content is super scummy as well as his other posts I'll pull some up tomorrow.
Zebra/Rabbit got to go they are super scummy espacilly after rabbits last minute attempt to lynch me either this is a save or he was trying to get rid of me since I suspected them.
Drum is mafia for voting me :P
Wilgy is cylon and MOST LIKELY MAFIA and he should be lynched.

Based on?

I'm actually starting to become annoyed at a handful of players stating "he's mafia he's mafia" while not providing any means or reason why that can be disputed or discussed. I think this is the last time I respond to "Wilgy's Mafia for no reason" and I'm not going to argue baseless claims anymore. This means you: Sig, Drum, OA, and Sokoth.

@Rabbit, you both saved Sig, the votes were in glorf's favor (as in potentially not getting lynched) during both of your votes.

Now we have a conundrum. We don't know why either of these players survived, one may be Gaius, Glorf may be cylon. We don't know anything now because of coinflips...

Well, I was under the impression I would be lynched if Glof did not get lynched, so I made sure sig had the most votes. I did not know there would be no lynch.

SVS alluded to my death here:

S~V~S wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:

Matt wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Ah but you need to go back and read how I replied to that post of BRs you quoted, Rabbit. I DID think all cylons were bad at the start of the game. I never saw this show. No one made any mention of potential civ cylons until after Epi was rezzed that I can recall.

I did.

Specifically listed Athena too, as I recall.

3J asked why I believe Wilgy is a confirmed civvie...I don't. But Dex (and maybe someone else, I think it was Rico who said I was on drugs) asked me to read the rest of the thread before I do that, so I thought maybe he became one.

Derp.

Yeah, he's definitely not. Basically my understand of things is that Dex provided very solid reasoning as to why we likely have two more civ cylons other than Epig, Cap Six and Leo. However, I have seen nothing that points to Wilgy being one of them.

Did you go back in Wilgys posts and look for what Dex said to look for? You should make the effort,imo.

If Glorfindel claims, and if the votes stay as they are, Zeebbit is gonna die, and I don't think he is bad. And I want to go to bed, so I gotta vote now.

So as a counterwagon, I am gonna vote sig as a just in case Glorf claims, since a few days ago everyone thought he was bad, and he has dropped way down since then, and I think him more likely to be bad than Rabbit, Wilgy or OA, the other people with votes.

Linki @Drum, maybe Dex is reluctant to talk about it becasue there may be certain things a certain glowy yellow metallic personage may not want him to say. Maybe think about that.

*voting sig*

So making sure I was not going to get lynched seem to make sense. Guess not.

But Rabbit, Sig was up to 4 votes BEFORE you voted. You only had 3.

I need to rest my brain for abit. I'm thinking too much and need to be dippin out of the thread.

Linki - Who am I throwing shade on Sig?

Linki Linki - Yeah, just let me dip for a bit Dex.

Linki Linki Linki - Sig... you real? Glorf claimed. I don't understand how you keep missing claims.

Linki Linki Linki Linki - Well other than that you got anything to comment on Drum? Because I told you my reason for that, and if you are going to vote me for being lazy that's fine, just make sure you label it as such.

When did Vonpatti drop that vote?

Linki - Yes drum, your reason is that there's a 60% chance that I'm scum. Statistic wise, great! reality wise, not so great. If you are willing to call me scum due to a 10% chance of me being scum compared to not being scum, that's just lazy (and not to mention not supported by anything in the thread, only show lore that maybe half of us know).

sig wrote:Glor is almost lock cleared maybe? idk.

Polo is almost certainly mafia. his content is super scummy as well as his other posts I'll pull some up tomorrow.
Zebra/Rabbit got to go they are super scummy espacilly after rabbits last minute attempt to lynch me either this is a save or he was trying to get rid of me since I suspected them.
Drum is mafia for voting me :P
Wilgy is cylon and MOST LIKELY MAFIA and he should be lynched.

Based on?

I'm actually starting to become annoyed at a handful of players stating "he's mafia he's mafia" while not providing any means or reason why that can be disputed or discussed. I think this is the last time I respond to "Wilgy's Mafia for no reason" and I'm not going to argue baseless claims anymore. This means you: Sig, Drum, OA, and Sokoth.

@Rabbit, you both saved Sig, the votes were in glorf's favor (as in potentially not getting lynched) during both of your votes.

Now we have a conundrum. We don't know why either of these players survived, one may be Gaius, Glorf may be cylon. We don't know anything now because of coinflips...

DrumBeats wrote:First in response to how this lynch turned out, I'm clueless. Basically the options I can think of are that Glorf is a cylon and Sig is Gaius who was then granted immunity by the immunity act or that Glorf was Gaius.

In response to my vote, it was 100% to break the tie between Sig/Rabbit.

Moving forward, Gaius whoever you are, try to enact that law Matt talked about, it was a good one.

Too bad we don't know if Glorf is a cylon or not now because of someone's save.

rabbit8 wrote:How did I save a player who wasn't going to be lynched?

How do we know whether or not he was going to be lynched Rabbit?