The Syndicate

Aye, too late to change, but my gut is twisted at this eod

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:57 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:56 pm Idk why, but my gut is like, Cape/Alexy flashwagon now.

I know it shouldn't happen, but maybe it's a side effect of the dead thread?
I don't think Cape is a hit

I've seen a few posts from Cape that feel too on the nose.

Like the "PSV is just civ" that made me not want to vote you.

Also the recent:

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:44 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:18 pm @Lime Coke sanity check me on my long con read

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:32 am lime coke is probably my top town after skimming some of his more recent stuff, not sure if ill be able to catch up by today but if i cant ill probably just be his double voter until i can get more time to sort this out for myself
given both of these idk how to feel about ur elim but we will see

Feels like something a w can post and be like "well I thought about it at least" obscuring fault.

What makes you think otherwise?

Idk why, but my gut is like, Cape/Alexy flashwagon now.

I know it shouldn't happen, but maybe it's a side effect of the dead thread?

But further on Alexy, when do we yeet this?

Pirate mafia really reminded me that we have to deal with these slots, but I just don't know how?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:51 pm I pretty much feel like I'm seeing the same mafia game that I was seeing when we were teamed together Wilgy. That's pretty much it from me and I figure that you're mafia.

I really don't know how that's possible. I tried super hard to isolate push 1 player (Tutuu) as wolf and defended you as well as I could.

I don't think I'm remotely close to that style of play this game.

Also that game I was actually cognisant of everything going on, no way that's happening here with me only spot reading.

Just skimmed Alexy.

Bah, what do we do with this slot?

Do correct me if you did.

I mean, I asked you why I was scummy and I didn't recall seeing you elaborate.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:53 pm Ok well, day ends in an hour, and 2 people haven’t shown up.

In a normal situation I’d say dead thread dead villager, but thread has been largely devoid of meaningful discussion most the day besides me running mouth.

Lime Coke has made defenses such as ‘everyone vote the big talker I’d they want something cool to happen “ and “I’m not bad”

It’s almost as if he wants to be the vote today. Feels weird

My exact thoughts.

Like, I kinda wish we could just yeet multiples today at this point.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:37 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.
You have said this about tutuu but coming into today, you really do not seem so sure there

I was specifically asked not to.

Following looking at votes and boats and goats I find that Tutuu is as close to null as can be.

So, let's give Tutuu a shot to grab a pelt.

PoE is you, brad, then Tutuu and I don't know how to fit alexy in there. Forgot they were here when reviewing VCA. I'll have to review later, but who knows if I'll have time for that today lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:33 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:12 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:32 pm @DrWilgy Please don't come guns blazing at me, we might need to consider a world where we're both town
Sure, what did you think on those who were full steam ahead with your suspicion on me? I noticed at least LC, LC, Scotty and Cape were like "ahhh yes yes this makes sense" and not much beyond.

Did anyone besides you actually assess my vote placement when it happened?
Everyone agreed that your action was identical to what you did as wolf before

I don't think thats what makes you scummy ftr. As town u are expected to vote wolves too. It just made me not townread u for the ilario vote, and the scumread came from your other reads

: shrug : I'm one of 3 tied for 2nd most scum games on site. I'd be impressed if you found something I didn't do as scum before tbh.

What are the other reads? Is that there?

Ah, Scotty jumpscare.

[VOTE: maxilime overcoke] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:56 pm Glad I did that real quick, I feel more acquainted with the game once again.

In terms of the VCA based PoE of Scotty > Cape > Brad, I don't know how accurate that is. I have a fleeting memory of it being Scotty who proposed Ilario suspicion earlier on D2?

Things for me to check when it's not turkey time: Scotty's position on PSV in spite of Ilario suspicion and the incorrect vote.

Cape's poor vote record.

PSV's position of 'just town based on VCA'
Ignore the binary ‘who voted whom’ for a sec.

I made a full case against ilario; begged others to go there, no one bit, said 20 min before eod that my ideal lynch would be ilario, left to make dinner, ilario was suddenly a wagon.

So…I should be towncore. But I’m not, because everyone e else couldn’t make their minds up

I dig it. Like I said, I just need to validate this was really the case.

As it stands Confident PoE is cape and brad. Not confident PoE is you and Tutuu.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:31 pm I AM FREE

I DID IT

QOWIEJWQOIEJWQOPEQ

i am a fucking idiot for procrastinating for the final moment again and again. but I DID it

in like ... 10 hours i learned how to use microsoft power bi and did some stuff with data tables and visualization and shit. chatgpt carried my ass so hard. BUT HE'S ALSO SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT. i need to explain to him like a fucking baby some stuff. and he can be so fucking wrong. but he also carried my ass. like i literally had to ask him "how to install microsoft power bi", i didnt know where the fuck do i get this from, do i need to pirate it or is it free or what. god damn. its over now. its in the past ....

Power bi is hard to use imo. Good shit doing it.

Glad I did that real quick, I feel more acquainted with the game once again.

In terms of the VCA based PoE of Scotty > Cape > Brad, I don't know how accurate that is. I have a fleeting memory of it being Scotty who proposed Ilario suspicion earlier on D2?

Things for me to check when it's not turkey time: Scotty's position on PSV in spite of Ilario suspicion and the incorrect vote.

Cape's poor vote record.

PSV's position of 'just town based on VCA'

1 in Brad, Tutuu, Cape

PSV has town equity based on Ilario D1

Scotty looks pretty bad d1 being on PSV

Ilario wagon looks pure based on PSV's equity

Cape and Scotty continue looking bad being on LC

Brad minor equity being on PSV with a 3p and Ilario, PSV continues to be town

Scotty wagon was at least 'pure'

JUST VCA in isolation, Scotty > Cape > Brad

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:24 pm
Spoiler: show
Cape90
1
7%
Voters: ilario
Porscha
6
43%
Voters: Lime Coke, tutuu, nutella, Long Con, Cape90, potentialsheltervet
potentialsheltervet
3
21%
Voters: Delta, Jackofhearts2005, Scotty
tutuu
2
14%
Voters: Alexy, DarlingMonroe

Missed: Wilgy, Porscha

Spoiler: show
Delta
1
7%
Voters: tutuu
ilario
4
27%
Voters: DrWilgy, potentialsheltervet, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
3
20%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, Cape90, Scotty
potentialsheltervet
3
20%
Voters: ilario, Delta, Lime Coke

Spoiler: show
Delta
6
50%
Voters: Scotty, DarlingMonroe, tutuu, Cape90, Lime Coke, Alexy
DrWilgy
1
8%
Voters: potentialsheltervet
Scotty
2
17%
Voters: Delta, Long Con

Oh goddammit, it was LC not Brad. NVM this jump to me being scummy could 100% be wolfy Brad.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:18 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:42 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:09 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?
I think he's SCUMMY.

Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.
Saw big text.

Why do you think I'm scummy? Did you think I was backed into a corner when I voted ilario? Why was I in a corner? No case had been presented against me at that time? Didn't during cyberpunk I tried to save you several times by counter wagoning?

Meh, I don't think you are wolf or have wolf mindset, but am genuinely curious as to where this conclusion came from.
This interaction reads as partner squabble

I think it’s uber bizarre that Lime Coke found you were backed into a corner when in reality you had no heat or suspicion at all. That seems like a made up excuse to be voting you and you are giving him too much leeway

Why would I be giving him too much Leeway?

I may be mistaken but wasn't LC one of the players that jumped to Ilario rather early? How would they be WW compatible?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:22 pm I think far too many are missing the minutiae of my meta, which makes sense I guess, I keep it vague on purpose.

If you're to find me, stop asking "would wolf Wilgy do x" because the answer is always yes, would Wilgy always does x, I play far too many games and rand W far too many times for that not to be the case.

It's "why would wolf Wilgy do x here"? You should be asking yourselves.
Why would wolf Wilgy do anything? Why doesn’t he just give himself up?

This whole post is just a giant WIFOM

This post isn't even close to wifom? WIFOM would be 'I'd never bus ilario because x'

The post you are claiming is wifom is just me explaining that I disagree and think the way players have drawn conclusions upon me is flawed.

This whole post is a giant SILLY

I think far too many are missing the minutiae of my meta, which makes sense I guess, I keep it vague on purpose.

If you're to find me, stop asking "would wolf Wilgy do x" because the answer is always yes, would Wilgy always does x, I play far too many games and rand W far too many times for that not to be the case.

It's "why would wolf Wilgy do x here"? You should be asking yourselves.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:42 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:09 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?
I think he's SCUMMY.

Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.

Saw big text.

Why do you think I'm scummy? Did you think I was backed into a corner when I voted ilario? Why was I in a corner? No case had been presented against me at that time? Didn't during cyberpunk I tried to save you several times by counter wagoning?

Meh, I don't think you are wolf or have wolf mindset, but am genuinely curious as to where this conclusion came from.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:17 am @DrWilgy so what is your read on tutuu now?

My primary qualm was them fluffing somewhat unlike T Tutuu, and this has ended. Hard to tell if it ended because of the thread state or not though.

They accomplished their goal and seemed to pivot when realizing that they got their Delta yeet, it's expected of either alignment to do this to hold momentum.

I'd say Tutuu has been brought back to a more null type behavior and I'm expecting pelt based play at this point.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:32 pm @DrWilgy Please don't come guns blazing at me, we might need to consider a world where we're both town

Sure, what did you think on those who were full steam ahead with your suspicion on me? I noticed at least LC, LC, Scotty and Cape were like "ahhh yes yes this makes sense" and not much beyond.

Did anyone besides you actually assess my vote placement when it happened?

Happy Thanksgiving.

Will be in and out this cycle etc etc

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:59 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:55 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:50 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.
It’s weird that you popped in to respond to Tutuu’s case, and didn’t acknowledge Delta’s 3p claim
I don't think there's anything to extrapolate from it. If Delta is 3p, If Delta is W it helps me solve Tutuu who's been very scummy. Either world, yeeting Delta is, as I advised, fine.
So you did see the claim.

Why the ‘if delta is anything other than scum, yeet her’? We can basically confirm delta is not town. Why does that make tutuu bad, even if delta doesn’t flip mafia,
W's can hunt 3p, W's can't hunt W's.

There's nothing here that makes me think this is town Tutuu at this point, and the only thing that'd indicate otherwise is a Delta W flip.

If it makes you feel any better, I’m beginning to suspect there is a difference check between you and tutuu,

I don't think I'm wrong, but could be. Read us both to the best of your ability and if I'm wrong on Tutuu guide me. It was alot of you that got me to vote Ilario last cycle.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:50 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.
It’s weird that you popped in to respond to Tutuu’s case, and didn’t acknowledge Delta’s 3p claim
I don't think there's anything to extrapolate from it. If Delta is 3p, If Delta is W it helps me solve Tutuu who's been very scummy. Either world, yeeting Delta is, as I advised, fine.
So you did see the claim.

Why the ‘if delta is anything other than scum, yeet her’? We can basically confirm delta is not town. Why does that make tutuu bad, even if delta doesn’t flip mafia,

W's can hunt 3p, W's can't hunt W's.

There's nothing here that makes me think this is town Tutuu at this point, and the only thing that'd indicate otherwise is a Delta W flip.

FWIW, I don't know if I've ever SEEN Delta play a game like this before. It's not like W Delta nor like T Delta, it's very middling and I can half see where Delta was playing to a neutral. HOWEVER, that's probably easily fakable.

So still, it remains kinda a

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.
It’s weird that you popped in to respond to Tutuu’s case, and didn’t acknowledge Delta’s 3p claim

I don't think there's anything to extrapolate from it. If Delta is 3p,

If Delta is W it helps me solve Tutuu who's been very scummy. Either world, yeeting Delta is, as I advised, fine.

Toodle oo

lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.

[VOTE: Ilario] aubergine sure

Like there's a weird tension keeping psv at pace with you

Idk if I can explain better.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:36 pm I think Wilgy is saying you’re -1 from being hammered; though I don’t think there’s a hammer nor do I think you are that close to being drunk,

sorry, -1 behind psv.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:54 pm the townreads on Wilgy. The guy can just come and post a d-pic in the thread and everyone will nod profoundly and chortle "oh, that's classic town Wilgy!" Must be nice.

Am I getting that many townreads? I think I've been put on a shelf to solve later from how I see people interacting.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:46 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:44 pm vote delta
for a
free
win
what kind of black magic is this?
Why are YOU voting me?

It felt that you were being kept at -1 somewhat forcibly while at the same time I mostly tr the players on you.

Between you and psv, I think both may need to resolve.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:44 pm vote delta
for a
free
win

what kind of black magic is this?

Most of the time I'm on mobile lol

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:58 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:02 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:47 pm Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:50 pm [VOTE: Delta] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:59 pm I do think Tutuu is still flinging rubbish and would advocate a vote there.
What's this then, bait? And you caught Scotty?
Just wanted to see what'd happen. Wouldn't even call it bait.

Oh the betrayal, I cant believe you would double cross me like this Wilgy.....

(is that what you wanted?)

No, what I wanted was a Tutuu wagon lol

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:25 pm Far too big of a gap in votes between PSV and Porscha. Kinda gross.
With this thought

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:29 pm So out of the remaining Porscha voters, why PSV and Long Con today?

Tutuu had votes to solve between, and is semi sketchy.

Also interesting that more seemingly tr'd players are opting for Longus Congus.
I feel like what you said looks worse for PSV so why do you wonder there? You disagree?

When I asked this I hadn't had enough data yet to get the 'thread feel' I at least have now.

I don't disagree with PSV, would be good for solving the d1 I think. I don't think Long Con gives us that, BUT general threadfeel was that the players that are more 'towny' are/were on that wagon.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:02 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:47 pm Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:50 pm [VOTE: Delta] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:59 pm I do think Tutuu is still flinging rubbish and would advocate a vote there.
What's this then, bait? And you caught Scotty?

Just wanted to see what'd happen. Wouldn't even call it bait.

I do think Tutuu is still flinging rubbish and would advocate a vote there.

A PSV vote would be for resolution of cw.

Longus Congus vote would be for Nuts legacy.

A Tutuu vote is for glory, sweet sweet glory. (Also Darling and I having the same read and conf town makes me more confident in the vote)

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:55 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:47 pm Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ
Ok if this’ll make clock out faster

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

But... isn't that what you did?

Yeah but I did it better.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:47 pm Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ
Ok if this’ll make clock out faster

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:51 pm I'd love a delta case that one could sink one's teeth into, not sales pitches and "robyn thought so"
I don't disagree with this and I kinda loathe Tutuu's push here.

Same. Its so very bleh that I want to cry about it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:50 pm [VOTE: Delta] aubergine
Did you get your free win??

Hmm?

All I do is win LC.

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:25 pm Far too big of a gap in votes between PSV and Porscha. Kinda gross.
I'm sorry you don't like it. It was 5-3 a couple of minutes before it closed, and I made it 6-3 because I felt like it. So you can blame me for the grossness in part. Jack said it was yucky too.

Hmmm... How do I describe it?

Stapled on, as in just put there because it can be. Wolves don't have a reason to not vote Porscha so why not?

Does that help?

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