The Syndicate

Hoh, I haven't opened this laptop since STAR WARS day 6... I thought this was amusing.

Linki - Posting a response from 3 months ago caused 4billion linki

Lol, we figured out you were Greedo the turn I sent that. My response was an immediate "Oh shit!"

Until next time Roxy

Did mine work? I didn't even get to test it...

Lol dude, I didn't have to do anything that game. You declared me as indy and it was over

DFaraday wrote:Excellent game, hosts! This was easily one of my most enjoyable Mafia games until my death. I was seriously upset by my death here more than any other Mafia death, since I made it clear to everyone that killing me was totally unnecessary.

Salacious Crumb, you little bugger, why did you kill me?

I honestly wasn't really trying to find the baddies near endgame since I didn't care who was bad, but Wilgy being a Hutt surprised me. I was also a little surprised that Mac was civ, since I figured one of the teams would have killed him long ago if he had been civ.

Lol, sorry about that. I have never felt bad for a NK before until this game. Both killing you and MM were hard for me.

I had to kill you to keep your role hidden and keep the number of "lynchable" players remaining aligned with when I was able to kill.

I'm pretty sure I lied to my team on several occasions about what I sent too, so when Zebra revealed, I wasn't too worried.

A list of Crumb's bad jokes:

N1: to Enrique, he's been poisoned and that he will receive increasing votes every day from here on out unless he can be cured.

N2: to Eloh, You have been inflicted with madness by Crumb. You may only vote for a2thezebra, you may not quote anyone who isn't a2thezebra, and you may not use the name of anyone who isn't a2thezebra. You will die if you mention madness or break one of the above rules.

N3: to Mac, Someone has payed quite the price to have you kill Roxy, so much so, you will probably die (if not receive a worse punishment) if Roxy isn't dead within 3 nights.

N4: to Golden, he has been spit on and afflicted by madness by crumb. He may not mention the madness and he must vote for Mac for the duration of tomorrow. He may also not mention or quote any player that isn't mac or he will die, in your own hosty ways of course.

N5: to Glorfindel, he has been spit on and afflicted by madness by crumb. He may not mention the madness and he must vote for Mac for the duration of tomorrow. He may also not mention or quote any player that isn't mac or he will die, in your own hosty ways of course.

N6: to MP, Jabba has offered to buy your vote. If you vote for sig you will recieve 30 credits the following night.

N7: to Llama, MP was responsible for the switch.

N8: to DF, Through force persuasion you feel inclined to vote for Llama. You may not vote for anyone else tomorrow.

N9: to Mac: he's been poisoned and that he will receive increasing votes every day from here on out unless he is be cured, along with the message "I'm indy, leave me alone plz, I'll cure you tomorrow. Ty babe, Wilgy."

N10: to Dom, that he has been inflicted with madness, he must only quote or refer to Wilgy for the duration of tomorrow. If he mentions the madness or anyone other than Wilgy he will be killed.

N11: to Dom: he's been poisoned and that he will receive increasing votes every day from here on out unless he is be cured, along with the message "DOOOOOOOOOM... leave me alone... I'll cure you tomorrow. <3"

N12: to Mac: you have been cured of poison effects. "<3"

N13: To nijuukyugou: You have been affected by madness. You must vote for MacDougall. You may not mention the madness. If madness is or the vote is not carried out you will be killed at the end of the day.

N14: to Dom: You have been cured of your poisoning.

Hmm... Were you in the game I wallflowered as a civ?

Thanks for the game DH and Epi! I had alot of fun!

Is there any chance you have a list of my recieved messages after you hostified them?

I think Mac was the only one who figured out my game. Anyone else have thier suspicions?

(in case you missed it)

Oh... And we can remove that small of peen part to my title now

a2thezebra wrote:Wilgy, the evil one of the forest. The eye of madness. The dark malevolater. The violator of all creatures. The hearth of tears. The harbinger of disaster. The small of peen. You da man, I knew I could count on you to make it to the end.

Great game everyone!

We did it fam! I couldn't have done it without you!

Matt wrote:Btw Mac, I was forced to vote for you on Day 10 or 11, I think? I was also told I was not allowed to tell anyone I was being forced. So when you went around telling everyone "I was forced to vote MP", I figured you were fibbing. But I did realize that there may be two forced voters with different conditions, and that's why I kept goin' back and forth on you.

Zebra - What was up with you outing yourself? You won, so good strategy (?), just wondering haha.

Lol, I'm the force voter, poisoner, btsc forger, silencer and whatever else I needed at the time. I put a fake force vote for myself and Zebra several times to clear myself

We'll see soon enough I suppose

Exactly. Maybe he stopped NKs on them, so that ruled them out in is head. Then, to keep them from being targeted again he claimed them as Jawa.

Hmm...

is it possible that instead of being Jawas, Niju and Russ were just players Mac successfully protected?

Good game everyone! Matt you should've accepted my deal when you could've :P

Ok. That's it. Dom are you bad?

Dom, if I were bad, would I have stuck to my word?

Poison would've killed you today regardless of anything else, and that'd be it.

Mac seemed pretty convinced that there was still a force voter in play. Does anyone else believe that this is true?

That won't be happening Matt. See that quote I conveniently quoted? I do really think that this is the end.

Understood

Mm'k then..

If he votes you before you vote him (and he's bad) I'm pretty sure he wins. I'm sticking to my word here and will go with the first.

So vote for him...

I don't care which side wins, I just need to protect myself here. I know quite confidently that I can survive as long as a vote is placed. (just not on me)

I don't think we've seen this yet.

Epignosis wrote:The Jawas are at it again!

Saberstaff - Double lightsaber beams allow a player to double his or her vote on one occasion. Votes against Jawas will not count.

PM your bids to the hosts by the end of the Night.

Even more reason why someone should vote quickly and let me win with them.

Also, If you are civilian Matt, that means it's either one of those two (or both) which means voting for them fast and getting my vote would also lead you to victory.

Interesting...

Eh? What was your plan? I may be able to help you regardless of alignment here.

Personally If the game were to carry on past this poll, I think I'd prefer you or Niju getting lynched because I've revealed myself to Dom already, but if the game will end through you lynching one of those two and nk'ing the other, I'm down, just let me know.

Umm... I guess as long as two votes aren't on me I'm content. Just vote I'll follow. I'm a doctor of my word (I'm not civ though).

This game has been fun.

I'll vote along with whoever votes first. (as long as it's not me of course

)

Dom wrote:....So....Matt.... or Wilgy... why Russ?

It's like I stated, my concern is only with living. I don't think you will try off me if I unpoison you.

I promise.

Matt wrote:Wilgy, you think Niju will vote for you?

I can only hope not, and anyone who is looking for a civ victory shouldn't.

I did some thinking, If I'm killed here I can't cure Dom, meaning he will die to the lynch tomorrow.
~I die -> NK on Mac or Matt -> Dom gets lynched regardless of anything -> Empire NK on last remaining non-neutral... The only variable is Dom's alignment I suppose.
~ Mac Dies -> Possible NK on anyone, Dom is cured -> and then we have an open game state.
~ Dom Dies -> Possible NK on anyone -> open game state.
~ DEATH STAR and all this is pointless.

I hope that this reason is persuasive enough. Along with the fact that I'm pretty sure Mac was still lying about his cured status, I think Dom should be able to believe that much as well.

Dom wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Dom, if you vote for Mac you will at least be tied.
Same argument works for you.

...Yeah... but... you die too

Dom, if you vote for Mac you will at least be tied.

I retract my previous statement.

Happy new years everyone!

I have no reason or want for you to vote Niju or Russ at this point, so I suppose I agree. :P

Have fun Mac. I'll see you next year.

MacDougall wrote:Anyway to explain it Wilgy. I don't want to see you lynched today but I do think you are the Hutt. You being lynched today is not going to help anyone but Empire as they will get your kill.

I came around to thinking you were a Hutt because I believe I figured out Crumb's role, with a little help from Zebra leaving a Crumb crumb that made me think that these PMs you're sending are just pranks and not real poisoning. You are the most likely Crumb left. If we only have one Empire left then I'm happy to see you lynched because I think we can defeat them from here.

We clearly still have Jawas left (there are still machines being sold) and Russ and Niju are outwardly aligned now and nobody else is questioning them ie. nobody else is a Jawa. They are obviously Jawas.

We have at least 1 Hutt and 1 Empire left. We only have 2 confirmed dead Empire, so it's possible we have 2 though Zebra seemed sure that Llama was Empire. I don't think she was right, I think that Llama just ignored a PM from Crumb (another reason I believe Crumb has the ability to send BS PMs, as well as Golden's claims that he received a PM pretending to be from me) because he figured it was a lie rather than not acting on the fact that he was told that MP was bad. I think that was unfortunate.

Zebra pretty much left behind in legacy that the Hutts had the ability to send people PMs by virtue of revealing that she knew that Llama was told MP was bad. Dom has recevied a poison PM from you, I did, Golden received a different one and evidently Llama did too. So I think Crumb's amusement is in sending people fake messages, and you revealed it to be you with your gambit by putting your name in it and soft claiming (and not rejecting when it was pointed out to you) that you are a Tusken.

Seeing as though I know I am a civilian, that leaves 3 players to fit into 2 or 3 scum roles.

Mac, there is a big fault in your theory. You are using what Zebra gave you. Confirmed Hutt. Even if Crumb had the ability to forge PM's, everyone (especially hutts) knew about my poison pretty early on. Should I just stop using my power at night because of this? It's my only tool to clear myself. Zebra gave you WIFOM.

Is there any chance of your opinion changing Mac? Or are you sold on me being a Hutt?

Another thought. If Zebra was my teamate and revealed that I was sending fake messages, would I continue doing the same thing if I had any other choice? Dom's response to my night action shows consistency Mac.

I think at this point Dom is 1 ahead if he votes for you.

Also Mac, I am pretty sure that we are all well aware of you being able to shitpost plenty of times regardless of alignment. See my sig for reference :P

We shouldn't fight like this regardless of in game standings

let's all make dirty jokes instead!

It's odd. You do have me, but not in the way that you think.

You got me when you aggrivated me. I reckless voted and tossed out a damn near 100% survival. I guess my annoyances with you being all over the place (and the fact that there is a death star in play that will most likely rng away any chances of survival) just made me want to vote you more than I cared about winning.

At this point I just don't understand how you could go from this post

MacDougall wrote:I'm still not cured Wilgy. So now I will get lynched today unless everybody votes the same way against another player. Seems pretty fucked that you just somehow didn't cure me.

And defending me to this.

Mac, do you still think you are the last civilian? I recall you saying something along those lines.

DrWilgy wrote:I didn't think about voting for him. Was kinda caught up in the moment. Plus I feel bad for not sticking to my word and unpoisoning him.

I don't know if you have looked at the poll or not...

Bullsuit Mac, you saw and acknowledged the vote spread.

MacDougall wrote:Votes are all on indys. Great.

You responded to me stating that I was going to vote for russ and force your hand, only to realize that I didn't actually vote.

MacDougall wrote:Oh Wilgy hasn't actually voted. That is good.

The bads are between Matt, Dom and Daisy. At least 2 of the 3. Matt tossed his vote away like a weirdo. Daisy for vote.

You would've voted for Niju had you been poisoned at the time, and saved yourself.

I don't think I'm panicked, I think I'm agitated. I supported you this game from the moment it was Golden vs Mac. Trusted you enough to reveal myself to you, offered to help you win if you were bad, and now you are targeting me, when it has no possibility of advancing the gamestate.

Linki: Oh my God Mac... If that's what I think it means.

I didn't think about voting for him. Was kinda caught up in the moment. Plus I feel bad for not sticking to my word and unpoisoning him.

I re-read, please specify the inaccuracies for me Mac.

Dom wrote:Macs late PM is interesting because I've yet to receive one for being unpoisoned.

Because I didn't unpoison you Dom. I'm sorry. I had to leave you this way to ensure that I lasted at least one more day.

If we vote together I can make sure you survive long enough for me to cure you.

What do you expect? I trusted you to not kill me, gave you my name, and now you are targeting someone who was indy for several phases now. You were the one that declared me as Indy Mac.

You completely 180'd on me the moment you got a "late PM"

I suppose the gist of it is, if you really didn't believe that I was indy, why did you wait for the supposed "late PM" to try this?

Another point I kept in the back of my head: similarly to suspicion of the fake forced vote. I'm pretty sure you were cured of poison much longer than what you implied...

And now that I think about it, the whole "my pm was late" thoughts came only momentarily after I began questioning you on the credibility of your cured status. Had you actually not known about your curing I think you would've voted Niju to save yourself in that moment. It was only when I forced you to make your move you backed off the lie.

Reference posts:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p212436

Remeber when I stated, throwing or bad?

Only a phase after he's been cured he decides to vote for me?

When he had all his chips on me being indy just afew days ago.

Mac, I was rootin for you too.

Hey Dom, you wanna lynch Mac?

I implore everyone that we do not use the death star. I don't believe it states that the user is immune as well.

MacDougall wrote:Let's be real about this.

I want to vote for Matt today. Failing that I would vote for Wilgy. Failing that for Dom. Russ and Niju are well off limits.

Where's everybody else at?

indifferent

Nah, they gotta kill a non-neutral.

Also, do you think that the other neutrals care about either side winning other than their own? But as you stated, it is hypothetical, and as I stated, I'm rootin for ya.

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