The Syndicate

Matt wrote:

Matt wrote:Also, I started this and Lost on the same day and was a baddie in both. It was really strange for me to be teamed up with Wilgy in this and against him in Lost haha. At one point in Lost, I even hinted at our being teamies here by saying "For some reason, I don't think Wilgy is bad this game".

I noticed that's how I caught Scotty lol!

Oh yeah... My lynch swap into tie was on purpose

I was mashing F5 at the speed of sound and snuck in a vote as soon as I saw Golden swap.

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:I was slapping my forehead every time (and it was often) that FZ brought up how I defended Mac, Wilgy, and bea, and how could they ALL have been baddies tricking me?? The fact is, I never defended any of them, I didn't mention them at all, really. The idea that I defended them all as Civs was fabricated, probably by those players, and nurtured through the trust that they showed each other because of it.

Lol, I enjoyed twisting your words to achieve that affect with Bea and FZ.

FZ. It's not your fault and I think you played exceptionally! I'm sorry I aggrivated you with my play though. I really was busy during the game, I just was able to take some time off work towards my demise.

How much of Matt's endgame would you say was influenced by you?

I gave him the primary idea for his roleclaim, but he really rocked it and went all out. Matt is most definitely a doctor!

Long Con wrote:I was slapping my forehead every time (and it was often) that FZ brought up how I defended Mac, Wilgy, and bea, and how could they ALL have been baddies tricking me?? The fact is, I never defended any of them, I didn't mention them at all, really. The idea that I defended them all as Civs was fabricated, probably by those players, and nurtured through the trust that they showed each other because of it.

Lol, I enjoyed twisting your words to achieve that affect with Bea and FZ.

FZ. It's not your fault and I think you played exceptionally! I'm sorry I aggrivated you with my play though. I really was busy during the game, I just was able to take some time off work towards my demise.

DH wrote:I crushed Wilgy this game. So proud of that.

Yeah good job lynching me ignore me casually calling you and Drac out while I was showering.

Dom wrote:I had targeted Mac that night.

What was your action order Dom?

Thanks hosts! It was alot of fun! The doctor still has a lot to learn, my goal is to not die next champies! (saying this sealed my fate didn't it?)

Epic Noses! Why did y'all kill me!?! I thought by playing scummy enough I'd be able to dodge your nk...

What was the technical if you mind me asking?

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:Speaking of that, hey MM, I found a JTM podcast on YouTube in which Missing Person spent about 20 minutes just flipping birdies towards you.

Lol, how salty is MP about that game?

MacDougall wrote:I have no faith anymore. The scum pwned us. I on behalf of the civilians concede. I will feed you grapes great scum overlords.

Woo!!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Wot do you get when Temmie eats tooo many Temmie Flakes?

a... Temmie ache!

Anyone want to chime in and point out where I haven't made sense in any of my rebuttals in the Wilgy case?

Linki-Where are my posts? Last time I checked it was Sorsha's?

I'm getting aggitated. I told myself I wouldn't get aggitated over a game. I'm taking a break for now.

Look at my current thoughts and stop tunneling.

If you are lynching me do the last part, and argue my refutations.

I haven't done anything making me Sorsha's teammate!

Why am I being judged for an unconfirmed actions?

Ok how about this.

I think there's a chance we can push LYLO back if we lynch Sorsha. It's not as great as a chance as lynching Drac, but a chance I'm willing to take if it means not lynching me.

If Sorsha is bad, I'll accept my lynch hoping that her death pushes lylo far enough back. Is that acceptable? Based on the way the votes were stacked yesterday, I'm leaning towards there being two teams. If we hit a baddie tomorrow, my death can happen and we still may be able to win.

Linki - Define bullshit vs wrong. What makes you think that post (since it's so game determining) is bullshit rather than wrong?

DH your arguements for me have all been on the premise of something that isn't alignment indicative, and based on the actions of others. I've refuted them multiple times and I've contributed to the thread with ideas that you've ignored.

Right now we have:
Marmot, who is a self proclaimed 3rd party that we will never be able to differentiate between civvie and baddie.
Motel, who doesn't even have an ISO worth looking at because he lurks too much
Sorsha, whos reactions and logics were false and indicative of being a baddie (who you think is my teammate)
And Drac, who is the fluffy buddy parrot machine 9000

So why me? Your actions don't make sense on the exception that:
1. You are bad
2. You're too arrogant to think differently, or at least ponder on other thoughts.

And I'm hoping it's not 1.

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

When Sorsha flipped on you for an innocuous post that only mention her in passing. Sorsha's doing, not mine.
When your reaction to that flip was "Relaxxxxx...." Yeah, because I thought I upset her and didn't mean to. Besides if I were telling a teammate to chill in the main thread vs. BTSC what sense would that make?
When the pair of you ping ponged between "painfully obvious distancing" and supporting each other See the point above.
When you crafted that bullshit post without checking any of your facts. And I was incorrect. You showed me that. Isn't that the point of the game? Make cases, judge info based on what you know and discuss? I don't see how me being incorrect is alignment indicative.

You are bad. You did that to yourself.

@Rico, look at LC's interactions with me after JJJ was spared. What would LC know about me, that no one else would, that would cause that reaction after someone who he thought was bad was spared?

The point of a fuck up is that you fucked up.

Fucking up isn't alignment indicative!

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

When Sorsha flipped on you for an innocuous post that only mention her in passing. Sorsha's doing, not mine.
When your reaction to that flip was "Relaxxxxx...." Yeah, because I thought I upset her and didn't mean to. Besides if I were telling a teammate to chill in the main thread vs. BTSC what sense would that make?
When the pair of you ping ponged between "painfully obvious distancing" and supporting each other See the point above.
When you crafted that bullshit post without checking any of your facts. And I was incorrect. You showed me that. Isn't that the point of the game? Make cases, judge info based on what you know and discuss? I don't see how me being incorrect is alignment indicative.

You are bad. You did that to yourself.

@Rico, look at LC's interactions with me after JJJ was spared. What would LC know about me, that no one else would, that would cause that reaction after someone who he thought was bad was spared?

Did I out myself? What was my definitive outing?

If you are civ and really that arrogant, I'm ok with us losing.

I'm looking forward to you deleting your acct DH.

I'm sick of defending myself here's a rainbow list for ya DH, consider it a preffered lynch order:
Mac
Bea
Matt
FZ.
Juliets
DH
MM
Motel
Sorsha
Drac

Linki - There's a difference between compromising and being rational. I can only try so hard to turn this game around for us before I lose my cool. I think I just lost it.

This is bullsuit DH! Those are all Sorsha quotes!!

Linki - Why... Why would a civilian ever do that.

Rico, have your thoughts on me shifted at all? Are there any questions insights or concerns?

Also, Willow Rosenberg. Whoever made that poll has good humor.

Hey Matt, I'll lynch Marmot with you as long as it's not me.

-__-

I'll take a hot and spicey number 7. Extra fries plz.

A counter arguement towards voting together DH. I'm at the point where I think I have no choice but to trust Sorsha now DH, and I think Sorsha may be in the same boat as me. I don't know Sorsha's alignment. I'm hoping that it's civ, because if she flips scum, then I'm dead. If I flip it may secure a baddies survival. You've been on me for the past 30 sumptin hours, and I don't think you've bothered to consider or even talk about some of the recent points that I've made either. You've successfully set up a lose-lose situation with the one exception being that we are both civ.

Taking a step back from what comes next. I can see both Drac and Sorsha being bad. I would prefer to lynch Drac, but I'm ok with lynching Sorsha. My fear here is that if Sorsha flips bad, I'll get murked shortly afterwards and we can't afford to waste any more lynches.

I want to know what Sorsha has to say about this.

I gotta head out now, probably won't be back before EOD.

It's like what Rico says, there is alot of voting without reason here. Look at who is voting where and think about where you wanna be amogst them.

I've honestly tried my hardest to baddie hunt and to defend myself here. I don't think Draco has. I don't think he's even addressed my case on him. Regardless, Draco however this resolves, It was nice to play with you...

Goodbye...

DharmaHelper wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:DH, look through my recent posts. Tell me what you think. Tell me what you think of my posts on Drac and Sorsha, even Kubrick.

I don't think Kubrick's reveal is faked. The hosts wouldn't put a fabricated role reveal in the front page. I think the reason we haven't seen any more reveals might be position related. I think Motel Room is probably Kubrick.

I also think you're distancing with Sorsha before you kick the bucket.

Regardless of distance with a player, do you agree or disagree with anything I've stated? If you are looking at it from an angle me having to be bad, you are going to have alot of homework when I flip. Does what I say make sense?

DH, look through my recent posts. Tell me what you think. Tell me what you think of my posts on Drac and Sorsha, even Kubrick.

DharmaHelper wrote:Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dat delicious Wilgy save.

Who is on my team that is saving me DH?

I don't know how to respond to that Drac

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I for one think that DrWilgy is oozing more baddie vibes than Draconus.

Marmot, what do you think of my case on Drac then?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ok, but as a civilian, how does one say "Guys, we're in LYLO now, let's go ahead and lynch the marmot?" with any certain justification?

I didn't intend for you to be first Marmot. I suppose I should've specified.

FZ. It was honestly working too much and getting sick. The school semester started as well and that took even more time away from me. I'm sorry for those days where I didn't care, but seeing as to what comes next, I can't afford to not give it my all. I'm sorry I let everyone else carry the burden of solving the game for so long. Not anymore though. We are lynching a baddie today and we are winning this game.

+having the weekend off really helps.

Linki: If you say so Rico... It's kinda hard not to. I kinda feel like this was my fault.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Marmot, I think the only situation where you and I can win at the same time at this point is if we win before LYLO.

The unfortunate part of this LYLO bizness is that only the Baddies will know when that day comes.

Your continued reference to it (or anyone's really) does not look good for you.

How-so? I think it's a legitimate concern here.

Started with 30 players, average mafia counts for a game that size is 7-9

There are 11 of us left and there are 2 dead baddies meaning:
If we started with 7 that means 5 baddies remain, meaning 5/11 and this is LYLO

The hope is that there are:
1. Two teams
2. Dead baddie seemers
3. A strangely low number of starting mafia

Linki - yes, you too Papryco

Marmot, I think the only situation where you and I can win at the same time at this point is if we win before LYLO.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't know why lynching me if we don't lynch baddies is necessary, but lynching me if we do lynch baddies is unnecessary.

The conclusion that this statement of yours brings me to is that you're saying the Baddies would benefit from lynching me while the civilians would not.

Incorrect. Marmot, you have to realize that you are an enigma that can't be answered until game over right?

If we don't have to lynch you because we find baddies and other leads, that would be fantastic. If we are at Lylo and you are alive, there will be no way for us to and judge you other than whether or not we believe you.

Note that this is assuming you are 3rd party as you say. I don't want to decline your win condition if we don't have to, but at this point I think we might be pretty close to needing to.

Linki: because we won't be as close to LYLO

Also that was

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Papryco

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Players that need to be murked:
Motel, MM, Drac.

Why me? I've not been bodied yet.

Linki: Better try again in Arrested Development.

I still don't believe Civs can win with you alive. If we can murk 2 or three baddies in a row, it would look exceptionally better for you Marmot. We may be able to win without lynching you at that point.

Players that need to be murked:
Motel, MM, Drac.

Ricochet wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Papryco, what's yours and JJJ's records?

1,002 vs 1,450

But by virtue of Special Games not counting for the Championships, THM didn't count for The Syndicate, so I'll be officially first now.

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Papryco, what's yours and JJJ's records?

Me accepting that there's a good chance of me dying soon has nothing to do with alignment Rico.

5 left until 1000 Papryco posts Jules.

juliets wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hey Juliets, what are your thoughts on me currently?

I'm trying to decide whether I'm going to change my vote. I will say however I thought your quotes on Sorsha were better proof that she did suspect Lorab and was not just bussing her. There were plenty of other people brought up as suspects that she could have jumped ship away from Lorab if she had wanted to avoid actually lynching her. I know you were trying to prove the opposite of what I saw there but I'm just telling you the way I see it. I'm probably the only one.

Which is a fair opinion. I went into that quoting thinking that Rico was onto something and may have been looking for it. Could also be signs of her being an unsure civ, but I'm doubting that was the case based upon her panic of recent phases.

Something that I think further weakens the Sorsha/Me bus theory, is that if Sorsha did bus LoRab like that, then if I bussed her, would that be her reaction be appropriate as a teammate that bussed LoRab?

In regards to your question about Juliets, I don't know. It's a possibility, but I've seen less evidence of that being true than Kubrick's existence.

A quick ctrl+f search of Juliet's interactions with Dom make Juliets trusted Dom
A quck ctrl+f search of Dom's interactions with Juliets make me think Dom trusted her

Linki: well shit, I know why I was confused now.

Hey Juliets, what are your thoughts on me currently?

Ricochet wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:An example of the PM that could've been sent is this:

Hey SVS can you format this and send this message to the thread:
A role has been revealed!
Stanley Kubrick, A BADDIE: On Position 1, cannot be lynched. On any other position, cannot be night killed

At least that's how I formatted my messages in Star Wars.

But... the first line is written in Host Post ink. The way you formatted your message above, it would not have Host Post ink on it. That's the kind of Hosts getting mixed up in the intentions of a faction, that I spoke about a while ago.

S~V~S wrote:A role has been revealed!

Stanley Kubrick, A BADDIE:

On Position 1, cannot be lynched. On any other position, cannot be night killed

Also, to come back to the BR not saying anything idea, why would BR, revealing a baddie role, want to blab about it, in the thread... where baddies can pick up on who might have revealed their role?

If I recall correctly, I think plenty of people were talking about that role. I don't think she would blab about it, rather mention it's existence at least once.

Here's the thing though, Kubrick doesn't have to be a role reveal. I could be entirely made up. It's interaction with JJJ just seems too perfectly baddie oriented.

by everyone, I mean I sent the fake message to Mac, who roleclaimed for me