The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:19 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:12 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:08 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:07 pm LC was one of the people who found something fishy about Kyle at the beginning of the game. For anyone playing on his team when he was bad, does he tend to accuse him team mates in early stages?
My first game with LC was a Mafia teammate and we went at each other on day 1 and I accidentally got him lynched iirc.
Did you start it or him? He doesn't strike me as a player who would point fingers at a fellow mafia unless it is necessary. You on the other hand, do
I can't remember. It was at the start of Talking Heads if you want to look it up.
I'm too lazy
I'm not.

Long Con started it. I'm sure they talked about it in BTSC first though.

Not from what I recall. It was impromptu and I remember trying to figure out how to deal with the fallout.

FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:08 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:07 pm LC was one of the people who found something fishy about Kyle at the beginning of the game. For anyone playing on his team when he was bad, does he tend to accuse him team mates in early stages?
My first game with LC was a Mafia teammate and we went at each other on day 1 and I accidentally got him lynched iirc.
Did you start it or him? He doesn't strike me as a player who would point fingers at a fellow mafia unless it is necessary. You on the other hand, do

I can't remember. It was at the start of Talking Heads if you want to look it up.

FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:07 pm LC was one of the people who found something fishy about Kyle at the beginning of the game. For anyone playing on his team when he was bad, does he tend to accuse him team mates in early stages?

My first game with LC was a Mafia teammate and we went at each other on day 1 and I accidentally got him lynched iirc.

Jimmy the rainbow in which I had LoRab as in the second lowest tier was speedchucks that I copied.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:44 pm I don't think nutella and lorab are probable teammates. Nutella was the first person to join the nutella wagon after me, and LoRab's behavior toward nutella has the appearance of buddying/pocketing.

Rule her out then. LC and Marmot compatible?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:18 pm To be honest Sloonei I started the analysis expecting better results. The outcome was rather underwhelming. Hence why I haven't done much with it.
Got any priority suspects right now other than Marmot?

I wouldn't call them priority but I am still orange at best on Long Con, nutella and Nova. I am alright with this LC lynch.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:18 pm To be honest Sloonei I started the analysis expecting better results. The outcome was rather underwhelming. Hence why I haven't done much with it.
Do you think marmot/lorab is a compelling pairing?

I wouldn't say compelling but they are compatible.

To be honest Sloonei I started the analysis expecting better results. The outcome was rather underwhelming. Hence why I haven't done much with it.

FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:36 am I'm down to Kyle or Daisy after we lynch LC. Sure, it can also be Nova (not even sure about his name), but if so, then I don't even care...

LC has not been playing his regular game, I don't care what he says. He's being more diplomatic (in LC standards) than he usually is. Taking less of a stand and like I said, asking more questions and clarifications than I expect him to.

Some of Daisy's actions and stances are questionable, but her tone feels more genuine, and then there's kyle who has been talked about the entire game. He feels a lot more careful than Daisy to me, which makes me say he's the last baddie over her, but who knows

I presume you believe Marmot to be a civ then?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:14 am

I just reread this whole Mac/Marmot exchange and it's quite ridiculous. I think Mac is overreacting. Like, he's been my strongest town read all game, and I don't understand why Marmot is claiming to scumread him, but I don't think I agree with Mac's leap in confidently believing Marmot is bad for this. I have no reason to townread Marmot and he is a potential mafia, but I don't think this Mac business is particularly alignment-indicative, it's just Marmot being weird, as he tends to be. Idk, it could be scum or indie Marmot trying to pull some crazy gambit, but maybe he really does suspect Mac? I guess I wouldn't be opposed to a Marmot lynch today but I don't see why Mac is so confident.

....Or LC and Marmot are our two scum trying some bizarro strategy of pushing a lynch of one of the most widely townread people in the game. Crazy gambit time... I'd believe it coming from those two tbh

.........Or Mac has been bad this whole time..... but seriously I would eat a pack of tinfoil if that turned out to be the case.

Lorem ipsum

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:56 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:53 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:36 am why is "push Marmot" a viable scum strategy for Macdougall entering Day 3?
Attacking Marmot for lazy play, as if Marmot tends to be an overly-vocal, super-analytical player. Possibly ironic, because THAT looks like lazy play on Macdougall's part, going after Marmot for his extremely usual play.
I'm not sure this answers my question, so I'll rephrase: why does it make sense for macdougall, as scum, to pick Marmot of all people as his lynch target for the day?
I guess if I were a better Mafia player, I could figure out that answer. Unless it specifically makes NO sense, then it's a strategy a person could go with. If Marmot is Civ and Mac is bad, then it makes sense to try and get a Civ lynched, while also looking like you're doing some new, fresh hunting. In this instance, though, the new, fresh hunting looks stale.

Well I am doing my best to make a sensible case against a player I find suspicious. I also haven't just plucked him out of nowhere as you are suggesting.

I have been trying harder to solve the game than most. Yourself and Marmot included. I suggest you look elsewhere because I am a civ.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:35 am @MacDougall, what do you say to LC's accusation that you're "dubiously shoehorning" Marmot into a lynch?

I would say that I have raised valid concerns and that his description is inaccurate.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:24 am A comment about the dialogue between Mac and Spacedaisy:

I don't think most mafia members are inclined to make plays which they are later forced to point to in their own defense. Civilians are hardly ever receptive to "I wouldn't do X as mafia" arguments, even when they should be, and I'm not sure what mafia members would anticipate getting much of any credit from that methodology. Instead I think it's better to judge the accuracy of Daisy's assertion about how she voted and would have voted if evil:

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:18 pm If I was a team with Lorab why would I not just either bus her or cast a vote to save her? How does voting off accomplish anything?
I think this is a question of personality more than a question of utility. There is a reason a mafia member might do that: to be relieved of culpability in any discussion of either a save or a bus. Instead the attack must be "sidelined a vote", which could be perceived as a less inspired accusation and one which would be more easily evaded. However, I don't think everyone would be into that methodology -- I wouldn't. A more assertive mafia-aligned player is probably going to either save LoRab or bus LoRab, and I do think that Spacedaisy is the assertive sort.

I think her point is reasonable.

If I was in that situation it would have to do with how present I was in the game. A sideline vote for me is the safe option. If I was able to remain present and build some authenticity around the action I would do as you say.

As it stands I will be voting Marmot at dawn and my vote will be staying there until such times as I see anything resembling a civilian in him.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:35 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 pm I disagree with Sloonei on sooooooo much. More on that later I guess. =p
Let's end him.
Do you still feel this way?

I can't see how Sloonei is Mafia. His read on Lorab was killer and not in the wishy washy way that scum bus people.
I have an agenda that is not entirely related to this game of mafia.
Fair enough. If you could lynch any two players in the game right now who would they be?
You and somebody on the quieter side of things.

Epignosis is civilian. Jay is loud. Sloonei is the bee's knees.

Having not spent much time looking at the other players in the game, I'm not sure who else it would be. I still don't think nutella is mafia. I at one point thought Wilgy was civilian. I don't know if that still holds true. I am uncertain about the rest of the players.

Look man, either come at me with vigour and sell me that you are trying to win the game for the civ cause or point the finger at someone else and create another one of these live interactions that you require in order to scum hunt.

Jimmy does this not qualify as player salad?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:06 am Need I remind you that your read on me exists because I provoked you. You've yet to really go after anyone that didn't initiate the conflict with you first with any kind of vigour.
That sounds about right.

I don't particularly enjoy post-analysis. So I often base my reads on live interactions. That means asking questions and doing things that will help create these interactions. If players don't want to talk to or about me, I'm less likely to pay attention to them.

I don't either and I am similar to you in that hence why I go after people on hunches so much.

That being said, I go after people. I don't just wait for them to attack me then defend myself by claiming Mafia reads on them. Otherwise you're basically saying that if Mafia just buddy you, you'll never catch one?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:56 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:44 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:34 pm @MacDougall Seems like a piss poor strategy to me, but whatever you want to think you go ahead. But to be clear, I have never shied away from bussing teammates in the past.
Making actions so you can point at them later to gain civ cred is a piss poor strategy?

Guess that makes me a piss poor Mafia player then.
Seems like it would make way more sense to do something likely to buy you some civ cred than to take an action you have to explain and defend. Taking the clearly civ looking path makes more sense to me as a baddie than taking a weak move and taking the fall out just in order to say, "but if I was bad I wouldn't have done that!" But maybe that's just the way I play. Also, don't make it personal man, I wasn't saying anything about your gameplay. The piss poor comment was because if I was bad and had bussed her, I wouldn't likely be in the orange for people who previously were coloring me green. If that was my strategy it sure as hell seems to not be a very good one. That's all I meant.
Everything you said is wifom. That's the argument for why your action is capable of being a scum action. It's wifom. And as such needs to be completely ignored.
I think it's a strategic mistake to ignore something just because it's WIFOM. I have seen way too many legitimate arguments discarded as WIFOM throughout my Mafia days, and even if the core difficulty of WIFOM is technically true, that mindset fails to get at the real utilities of a decision between alignments.

This is a general comment for this game and all others.

I was going to say something similar to this to correct myself tbh. The action itself that is wifom needs to be overlooked but the tone, context and timing of the action are most definitely worth consideration at all times.

Can someone not named Jay read my points on Marmot and offer feedback? I know Jay will say something like "I understand why you feel that way but I'm just not feeling it" so I don't need to ask.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:56 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:44 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:34 pm @MacDougall Seems like a piss poor strategy to me, but whatever you want to think you go ahead. But to be clear, I have never shied away from bussing teammates in the past.
Making actions so you can point at them later to gain civ cred is a piss poor strategy?

Guess that makes me a piss poor Mafia player then.
Seems like it would make way more sense to do something likely to buy you some civ cred than to take an action you have to explain and defend. Taking the clearly civ looking path makes more sense to me as a baddie than taking a weak move and taking the fall out just in order to say, "but if I was bad I wouldn't have done that!" But maybe that's just the way I play. Also, don't make it personal man, I wasn't saying anything about your gameplay. The piss poor comment was because if I was bad and had bussed her, I wouldn't likely be in the orange for people who previously were coloring me green. If that was my strategy it sure as hell seems to not be a very good one. That's all I meant.
Everything you said is wifom. That's the argument for why your action is capable of being a scum action. It's wifom. And as such needs to be completely ignored.
I'm fine with that. It's not like this is the only thing I've said regarding yesterday. So disregard those two sentences out of my entire post all you like. I don't give two shits man.

Cool as.

I have been your primary scum read for several days and you haven't tried to push anyone to vote for me yet even a little bit.

Civilian win con = lynch all the Mafia players.

You said you can't put in a solid effort every single day. On what day can I expect the effort? Today? Lylo?

Need I remind you that your read on me exists because I provoked you. You've yet to really go after anyone that didn't initiate the conflict with you first with any kind of vigour.

You are not trying to solve the game. The roof is something that you do not care for Mister Marmot.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:44 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:34 pm @MacDougall Seems like a piss poor strategy to me, but whatever you want to think you go ahead. But to be clear, I have never shied away from bussing teammates in the past.
Making actions so you can point at them later to gain civ cred is a piss poor strategy?

Guess that makes me a piss poor Mafia player then.
Seems like it would make way more sense to do something likely to buy you some civ cred than to take an action you have to explain and defend. Taking the clearly civ looking path makes more sense to me as a baddie than taking a weak move and taking the fall out just in order to say, "but if I was bad I wouldn't have done that!" But maybe that's just the way I play. Also, don't make it personal man, I wasn't saying anything about your gameplay. The piss poor comment was because if I was bad and had bussed her, I wouldn't likely be in the orange for people who previously were coloring me green. If that was my strategy it sure as hell seems to not be a very good one. That's all I meant.

Everything you said is wifom. That's the argument for why your action is capable of being a scum action. It's wifom. And as such needs to be completely ignored.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:51 pm Why Marmot is Mafia:

He has one player he would lynch right now and it's a player nobody else finds bad
He has made a minimal case against said player
The content of that case is that said player (me) is behaving in exactly the same way he is

You're clearly not genuinely trying to solve the game. You're bad.
The problem with making cases without quotes or links is that everything is written out of context and painted a most dreadful color of scum. That's what you've done here.

I disagree. I find it really helpful when players summarise their reads.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 pm You mentioned you have a mafia read on me because I appear to be playing a different game to everyone else. Does that mean you have a Mafia read on yourself given the lion's share of everyone else have a civ read of me?
Can you walk me through why I would make that jump in logic?
I thought it was obvious that I was having a go at you for being a hypocrite.
I was picking up what you're laying down.

Except for the part where it doesn't really matter to me what "everyone else" has to say about you. I never particularly cared for general consensus.
So we agree you are scum reading me for something you are exhibiting in this game? That is to say that you find your own behaviour scummy?
No we do not agree on that.

I see your behavior. I find it suspicious.

I have my behavior. They are different. I am not doing the same thing as you. If I was, wouldn't the lion's share of everyone else have a civ read on me too?

So no I do not find my behavior scummy. I don't pay heed to my behavior. That's everyone else's job.

You're not trying. You don't find me suspicious. If you found me suspicious you would have tried harder to rally against me. You're just swatting away my accusations. Your suspicion against me is to softly discredit me enough that people will see my read on you as a no u and ignore it.

Why Marmot is Mafia:

He has one player he would lynch right now and it's a player nobody else finds bad
He has made a minimal case against said player
The content of that case is that said player (me) is behaving in exactly the same way he is

You're clearly not genuinely trying to solve the game. You're bad.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 pm You mentioned you have a mafia read on me because I appear to be playing a different game to everyone else. Does that mean you have a Mafia read on yourself given the lion's share of everyone else have a civ read of me?
Can you walk me through why I would make that jump in logic?
I thought it was obvious that I was having a go at you for being a hypocrite.
I was picking up what you're laying down.

Except for the part where it doesn't really matter to me what "everyone else" has to say about you. I never particularly cared for general consensus.

So we agree you are scum reading me for something you are exhibiting in this game? That is to say that you find your own behaviour scummy?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:34 pm @MacDougall Seems like a piss poor strategy to me, but whatever you want to think you go ahead. But to be clear, I have never shied away from bussing teammates in the past.

Making actions so you can point at them later to gain civ cred is a piss poor strategy?

Guess that makes me a piss poor Mafia player then.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 pm You mentioned you have a mafia read on me because I appear to be playing a different game to everyone else. Does that mean you have a Mafia read on yourself given the lion's share of everyone else have a civ read of me?
Can you walk me through why I would make that jump in logic?

I thought it was obvious that I was having a go at you for being a hypocrite.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:18 pm
If I was a team with Lorab why would I not just either bus her or cast a vote to save her? How does voting off accomplish anything?

So you could make that comment?

You mentioned you have a mafia read on me because I appear to be playing a different game to everyone else. Does that mean you have a Mafia read on yourself given the lion's share of everyone else have a civ read of me?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:35 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 pm I disagree with Sloonei on sooooooo much. More on that later I guess. =p
Let's end him.
Do you still feel this way?

I can't see how Sloonei is Mafia. His read on Lorab was killer and not in the wishy washy way that scum bus people.
I have an agenda that is not entirely related to this game of mafia.

Fair enough. If you could lynch any two players in the game right now who would they be?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 pm I disagree with Sloonei on sooooooo much. More on that later I guess. =p
Let's end him.

Do you still feel this way?

I can't see how Sloonei is Mafia. His read on Lorab was killer and not in the wishy washy way that scum bus people.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:11 pm Drunk analysis? Did someone say Epignosis?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:56 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:55 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:53 am I moved to nutella for the moment, I'm not 100% certain I want to stay there but my gut just got thrown for a loop and her moving to Jay is concerning to me.
I recommend looking at LoRab quickly if you have time.
Tell me about lorab
11:56. Buzzed.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:01 am Elplz eevator pitch me on lorab vrs locon go
12:01. Shitfaced.

I don't know a single drunk this incoherent. I am drunk right now.

Maybe.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:04 am voted daisy to preserve the tie, I'm okay with letting the rabbi choose
12:04. Had a quick shower and a cup of coffee.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:53 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:01 am Elplz eevator pitch me on lorab vrs locon go
what the fuck
12:53 am pm

"What the hell did I do last night?"

I have a little experience here.

If you're shitfaced, you stay shitfaced for more than a ten minute window.

[quote=MacDougall post_id=396893 time=1516342655 user_id=441]
Group 1 - Give the most credence to these reads.

Speed
Sloonei
Epi
JJJ
nutella
Kylemii

Group 2 - Give some credence to these reads.

FZ
Long Con
Dyslexicon
Spacedaisy
Dr Wilgy
Marmot

Group 3 - Pay no mind sunshine.

Novaselinenever

Update in case I die. While there is little to go by with Nova, there is nothing positive. I would advise just lynching him and being happy with it should there be a lack of consensus towards end of day.

Otherwise, should I be around, I will be looking further into Kyle and further tormenting Marmot to see what falls out.

On analysis I think Kyle's drunk EOD looks pretty bad. Given I am a known drunkard I have good insight here.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:56 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:55 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:53 am I moved to nutella for the moment, I'm not 100% certain I want to stay there but my gut just got thrown for a loop and her moving to Jay is concerning to me.
I recommend looking at LoRab quickly if you have time.
Tell me about lorab

This was a drunk Kyle exhibiting what is referred to as dutch courage.

He ultimately voted for Daisy on his own. I wouldn't be surprised if his drunk mind thought he was doing a great job distancing them both with this passage.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:51 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:48 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:47 am @y'all: what do you think of LoRab right now?
Lukewarm suspicion. What's her biggest offense?
Our exchange began with her stating a gripe against the nutella bandwagon. I asked her to investigate it. She did. The reads she produced were that Epignosis was suspicious regardless of how he looked in the nutella wagon, and that speedchuck was suspicious simply for being there and for dipping his toes in a lot of bandwagons. She made absolutely no comment on you, despite you also throwing your vote all over the place like speedchuck. I don't buy that these are sincere suspicions.

Holy fuck this was a spicy hot take. Well done.

Exploring Kyle.

Back at my desk so I am keyboard empowered Mac again.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:21 am Anyway it's done

https://screencast.com/t/mOEFHqlSOri
LoRab/Kyle is listed as a "possible" pairing. Care to elaborate?

Tomorrow I will try to find it

Nicely done fam.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:11 pm Fam if you wouldn't mind I had a Kyle and long con team as a good possibility. Would you mind looking at their interactions and sharing with me your thoughts when you have a moment?
Checking into Kyle/LC briefly:

Kyle groans about being misrepresented by LC's crop job -- This looks like an actual complaint, like one driven by actual irritation; not some fudged exchange.

It's alright. -- He forgave the gripe painlessly. If they're teamed I don't see why this needs to exist. That's WIFOM granted, but I have my doubts.

Kyle GTH good read on LC -- I don't know why. That's typical of GTH reads.

Long Con wants to string him up -- Jovial reaction to my fake tell thing. LC is capable of that sort of WIFOM, especially if he knows I'm full of shit.

Jokey banter -- It exists. Okay.

I don't see glaring indicators that they're teamed. I'd sooner say they're not teamed.

Good catch on point 1. Might have glossed over that.

Fam if you wouldn't mind I had a Kyle and long con team as a good possibility. Would you mind looking at their interactions and sharing with me your thoughts when you have a moment?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:27 pm MacDougall
DrWilgy
Kylemii
Dyslexicon
FZ.
Spacedaisy
Epignosis
novaselinenever
LoRab
Long Con
speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot
Sloonei

Ugh this is so arbitrary. I... I really don't put much stock in any of this. But GTH right now it's something like this.
Talk to me about your three bottom reads and Dyslexicon please and thank you.
Jay is bad. Marmot is bad. Sloonei is bad. Dyslexicon is good.

Elaborate on your marmot read for me plz.

Is dyslexicon he she it null or fluid? I have seen both.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:07 pm I don't think Sloonei is bad. He has no discernible teammates and has had non teammate interactions with everyone except the lowest low posters.
What are his non-teammate interactions with Jay? And to what extent can any of the things you deem non-teammate interactions be explained away with WIFOM?

A lot of interactions. Votes. Just natural.

They definitely can. Especially post me having done the analysis. Presumably the Mafia will now be conscious of it.

I don't think Sloonei is bad. He has no discernible teammates and has had non teammate interactions with everyone except the lowest low posters.

Your red skittles could be a team. Sloonei what's your stance on dizzy and Lorab?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:01 am Mac, if you were to base your suspects purely off of your interactive reads from last night, who would they be?
Not really how it works. The list won't be useful until we lynch a baddie.

I am voting Marmot.
Why marmot?

I don't think his read on me is sincere.

I am phone based so I can't case build well. Read through my iso for mentions of him and you should get the gist.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:01 am Mac, if you were to base your suspects purely off of your interactive reads from last night, who would they be?

Not really how it works. The list won't be useful until we lynch a baddie.

I am voting Marmot.

Who are your mafia reads?

I'm sorry if you felt like I was being sexist.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:20 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:03 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:25 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:22 am wait wtf Jay pressure-voted for Sloonei rather than immediately voting for Epi like he was supposed to? Nice try dude, that actually makes me lean back toward the Sloonei-and-Jay-are-scumbuddies side.
I don’t care.
Do you think nutella is mafia?
Light green skittle.
Why bark like that at someone you have a civ read on? You are a dominant voice and you could discourage her from continuing to analyse the game. If she is civ you should encourage her.
lmao oh yeah I'm so intimidated by the big scary boys, such a discouraging environment

Your gender had nothing to do with the comment. I just don't feel like his comment was helpful if he had a civ read on you. I would have said the same if he did that to most players.

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