The Syndicate

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:29 pm I gave you some data. I want to know your interpretation of it. I know what I think and I'll comment on it directly.

Well, if you insist. I think it is stupid to expect a player to do something so narrow and minute twice and then base a read on it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:21 pm MacDougall presented an idea in a recent game he was good in. He said I was bad because I refused to talk to my teammates. Mac didn't say shit about that here. There are plenty of people I've not engaged with.

Shut your fuck up

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:07 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm [VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Really cool. Goes nowhere

Why move away from LC?

There is absolutely nothing spicy, delightful, fantastic, wonderous or magical about LC suspicion. It's boring ass tunnelly overdone claptrap.

Yet look at you.

Asshole, 1

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:32 pm Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

I’m only half here today

Talk to me Sloon. You're the most level headed person here. What's going on?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:30 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

Literally what the fuck dude?

I changed my mind.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:45 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:22 pm Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.

Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.

I would also say the same about JaggedJimmyJay, but he's Schrödinger's player right now. I'll join you on the Sloonei vote, he has three posts and they're all about an issue that's above his pay grade as a player. In A World Asunder, town Sloonei opened Day 1 with two town reads and a vote on a suspect. [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Oh right it was Long Con.

Yeah let's lynch him lol.

Who was it earlier in the game that earnestly made a read on JaggedJimmyJay? We should lynch whoever that was.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:36 pm I feel like I need to reread the thread and get some fresh and new thoughts.

But before that @Sloonei could you explain to me how you went from town reading me to being unsure? The progression for that wasn't really clear.

You are way too obsessed with how people view you.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:35 pm Let's all take a moment to breathe

Don't tell me what to do old man.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

I mean, what a low IQ post. Get in the bin Tony.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

You don't have that authority.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:33 pm by confused I mean did mac go from telling me my lc read sucked to pushing for his lynch?

Get on my level you second rate washed up hasbeens.

Sloonei vote camping off wagon for so long on a person he has no chance of lynching and hasn't even actually tried to lynch has slowly drained me of all my good will towards him.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:29 pm This game had actual logic to it for the first 48 hours and now idk what's going on is it a full moon or something

It needed a bit of sass for a while to see what stirred up.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:23 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:22 pm TonyStarkPrime has twelve posts and and I count only one opinion that is expressed without hedging language.

I’ve been taking the maybes and perhapses out of my emails today. It’s an overall problem.

Alright TSP is a wolf. Everyone off the pile.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:20 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:18 pm For April Fool's day today, I cooked some eggs and toast for my mom. It was hilarious because she did not know what to do with them, and refused to eat them.

ok that's pretty funny

also ooh this wagon, and speedchuck with the analysis. interesting.

do you guys really want to hammer? idk I always thought it was better for eod chaos to happen

No hammering is really dumb. But I like threatening to.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:53 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:43 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:24 pm tsp's posts have been forgettable to me but we're on the same wagon so sure i guess i can hold off on reading him for now

Tony has twelve posts. Why do they need to be memorable? You can read them in under sixty seconds. Why does this post exist?

Why does this post exist? That is such a trivial thing to get caught up on. His 12 posts absolutely are forgettable. It doesn't take a great deal of imagination to see why FG would have made this post? I don't know what's worse, your silly gotcha or Dragomir telling you it was splendis.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 pm

Tony has twelve posts. Why do they need to be memorable? You can read them in under sixty seconds. Why does this post exist?

A splendid post from you. I'm wondering the same thing.

I think Dragomir because I think it's just a bunch of bs half trying to butter up to Epi half taking the opportunity to build some negative energy towards FG.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

What the fuck

What the fuck

Use your words Dragomir

1. What is the problem with me compliment his post? I thought it was splendid so I said it. Do you want to tell me that it was wrong to do that?

2. I made a post before Epi talking about that specific part of FG's post saying that it was no excuse to not read TSP's posts. So obviously, I was wondering the same thing. Why does that post exist? It shouldn't. It doesn't matter how forgettable his posts are or whether or not he's on the same wagon as you. They're 12 posts. Easy to read. If you're unclear on the man then there's no reason for why you shouldn't read his posts, especially when they're EASY TO READ.

Yeah, fuck you Mac.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:15 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:01 am Sloonei can you list all the people who have been notably assertive about town reading you vs. those who have been suspecting you?

LC and leetic voted for me very early on but I would not say that either of them have sustained any suspicion against me. ts account is the only one who I think has been actively suspicious of me as the day has progressed. Turnip Head briefly mentioned me once or twice but I was unclear where that ended up or how serious the suspicion was.

Just about everyone else has expressed some degree of a town read on me. I don't specifically remember speedchuck or tony having anything to say about little old me.

Drago and funnygurl would be the two most "notably assertive" town reads. Both of them stood up to defend me at various points early on. I've voiced my concerns about funnygurl's handling of me already: she defended me against specific accusations but never provided any independent thoughts on me.

I think that there has definitely been a general pro Sloonei vibe so I'm inclined to see people suspecting you as town. The mafia would be avoiding fabricating cases on you in this thread state and if you are one, well naturally they're probably not grilling you hard. I'd say that if you are Mafia, Funnygirl might be. But if you are town I'd be inclined to near townlock TS Account based on what you are saying.

Alternatively, he doesn’t want to back down. I’ve taken some crazy swings at cases against widely read townies before as scum. Easy points and no one seriously thinks you’re trying to lynch the person who’s never getting lynched.

Maybe but he's town for other reasons anyway.

Juliet just brought me my wolf hunting sombrero.

Let's hammer Turnip Head and move on to the next phase. Quick game's a good game.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:07 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm [VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Really cool. Goes nowhere

Why move away from LC?

There is absolutely nothing spicy, delightful, fantastic, wonderous or magical about LC suspicion. It's boring ass tunnelly overdone claptrap.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm I don't really want to talk to you anymore tbh. The conversation ran it's course ages ago and nobody is going to read any of the points either of us have made now that has become this long drawn out waste of time.

But how will I ever understand your argument when you don't explain it?

I told you that it's just a general "the person is not a townie" meme and I have already told you the reasons I suspect you at length. You are one tiring ass individual.

Ah yes a wagon I can appreciate

[VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

I don't really want to talk to you anymore tbh. The conversation ran it's course ages ago and nobody is going to read any of the points either of us have made now that has become this long drawn out waste of time.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:01 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:43 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:24 pm tsp's posts have been forgettable to me but we're on the same wagon so sure i guess i can hold off on reading him for now

Tony has twelve posts. Why do they need to be memorable? You can read them in under sixty seconds. Why does this post exist?

Why does this post exist? That is such a trivial thing to get caught up on. His 12 posts absolutely are forgettable. It doesn't take a great deal of imagination to see why FG would have made this post? I don't know what's worse, your silly gotcha or Dragomir telling you it was splendis.

What are you going on about?

Hey Mac- who is my teammate this time? Who haven't I talked about or to?

Probably your family since you seem to spend so much time jerking off over yourself.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:56 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:47 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:11 pm

Townies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.

In other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.

So what does this actually mean? What is the roof here?

We played a Fiddler on the Roof mafia once and it coined the phrase. It just generally means doesn't care about the town wincon but to me it also subtly implies that the person doesn't care about playing with the usual sense and reason either.

Ok, why do I appear like that?

My name is Artour Babaevsky. I grow up in smal farm to have make potatos. Father say "Artour, potato harvest is bad. Need you to have play professional Doto in Amerikanski for make money for head-scarf for babushka."I bring honor to komrade and babushka. Sorry for is not have English. Please no cyka pasta coperino pasterino liquidino throwerino.

Huh?

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little wolf? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the scum hunting, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Mafia Universe, and I have over 300 confirmed scum lynches.

I am trained in mafia theory and I’m the top wolf hunter in the entire syndicate. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the INTERNETS and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking lynched, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can lynch you for at least 3 different reasons, and that’s without a single wallpost.

Not only am I extensively trained in scum hunting theory, but I have access to the entire arsenal of RateYourMusic.com back history and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the assassins creed mafia, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking lynched, kiddo.

So we need 7 to hammer eh. We haven't even got past 4 yet so best we do something about that.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:56 pm I just saw this but...day phases are 72 hrs long. What in the living daylights?

Nanook wants us to use the hammer.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:47 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:07 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:39 pm Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.

What's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.

Townies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.

In other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.

So what does this actually mean? What is the roof here?

We played a Fiddler on the Roof mafia once and it coined the phrase. It just generally means doesn't care about the town wincon but to me it also subtly implies that the person doesn't care about playing with the usual sense and reason either.

Ok, why do I appear like that?

My name is Artour Babaevsky. I grow up in smal farm to have make potatos. Father say "Artour, potato harvest is bad. Need you to have play professional Doto in Amerikanski for make money for head-scarf for babushka."I bring honor to komrade and babushka. Sorry for is not have English. Please no cyka pasta coperino pasterino liquidino throwerino.

Sloonei are you high or drunk or something?

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Lynch this troll.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:45 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:40 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

why

1 - The amount of chatter about him being suspicious is unwarranted and is consistently based on untruths.
2 - The amount of anti LC chatter makes me think that there are at least wolf or wolves pushing that narrative, and in this current threadstate there is no cause for distancing or bussing.

I think that an LC lynch day one is very likely to flip a townie.

My guy, there have been like 2 ppl that talked bad on LC. Funnygurl and I. I won't count Speed cuz he made iirc one post talking about LC. I don't know how much anti-LC you see that I haven't. Maybe I'm just so vocal about him that it seems like a lot.

For someone who gets hysterical about others not reading the game you'd think you would be paying closer attention. LC has been an overwhelmingly dominant focal point and persistently so.

I strongly disagree.

You can try all you want but LC isn't getting lynched while I have a voice.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:07 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:39 pm Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.

What's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.

Townies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.

In other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.

So what does this actually mean? What is the roof here?

We played a Fiddler on the Roof mafia once and it coined the phrase. It just generally means doesn't care about the town wincon but to me it also subtly implies that the person doesn't care about playing with the usual sense and reason either.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:40 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

why

1 - The amount of chatter about him being suspicious is unwarranted and is consistently based on untruths.
2 - The amount of anti LC chatter makes me think that there are at least wolf or wolves pushing that narrative, and in this current threadstate there is no cause for distancing or bussing.

I think that an LC lynch day one is very likely to flip a townie.

My guy, there have been like 2 ppl that talked bad on LC. Funnygurl and I. I won't count Speed cuz he made iirc one post talking about LC. I don't know how much anti-LC you see that I haven't. Maybe I'm just so vocal about him that it seems like a lot.

For someone who gets hysterical about others not reading the game you'd think you would be paying closer attention. LC has been an overwhelmingly dominant focal point and persistently so.

I also hate his wagon. Dragomir and Speedchuck are suspect. Turnip Head and Funnygirl has been driving suspicion towards LC subtly but not voting there, and Turnip in particular is suspect as hell. He's playing it like someone trying to manifest the LC lynch without being part of it. I don't like the progenitors outside of TS Account, and reading TS Account regurgitating crap spewed by those people has forced my hand.

That said I also hate the leetic and the ted wagons too. We need new wagons imo. If Dragomir wagon won't take I'm inclined to switch to Turnip Head.

Speedchuck, Turnip head, Dragomir, Funnygirl, Epignosis have all been more suspect and questionable than Long Con imo.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

why

1 - The amount of chatter about him being suspicious is unwarranted and is consistently based on untruths.
2 - The amount of anti LC chatter makes me think that there are at least wolf or wolves pushing that narrative, and in this current threadstate there is no cause for distancing or bussing.

I think that an LC lynch day one is very likely to flip a townie.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:07 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

I need an explanation for why I look an upset scum instead of an upset townie.

An upset town tends to not need to make a case that the logic and reason being used is incorrect, just that it is being incorrectly applied in the circumstances. Upset scum will make silly statements like "this is the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen" because you have a much more significant self preservation requirement in this game than a random villager would.

Ok, this makes sense. But honestly, I don't really give a shit about how an upset town doesn't need to do that or what an upset scum says. I will speak my mind. Not gonna let general mafia rules stop me.

Nobody asked you to. The nature of the game lends itself to analysing what people do through a lens of what is ordinarily expected of them mon frere.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 pm Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

Dude, I literally told you I made an explanation for this earlier, and I told you to go look for it. You refused. Also, I made the same explanation in the massive post you I made against ts.

TS already told me sit down buddy. Also I never refused don't talk shit or you gonna get hit brah.

I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:08 pm Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

It is because you three are on vanity wagons currently, Dragomir has already said this.

Ah yep yep duly noted.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:54 pm
Or maybe I'm a town who thinks the cases on me don't make sense?

Attempting to dismantle an established scumtell does not seem a towny-driven method to escape the noose, in my opinion. I find it interesting that both times I have brought up established scumtells, you have resorted to attacking the legitimacy of the scumtell itself, anyway.

Aight so what else you got going on? Any other suspects? Who else do you town read?

Why did you ask Sloonei, LC and myself to switch our votes to a major wagon. Why specifically us three?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

I need an explanation for why I look an upset scum instead of an upset townie.

An upset town tends to not need to make a case that the logic and reason being used is incorrect, just that it is being incorrectly applied in the circumstances. Upset scum will make silly statements like "this is the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen" because you have a much more significant self preservation requirement in this game than a random villager would.

I am still near certain that speedchuck is a wolf.

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

You seem a little upset. Do you perhaps feel you have been caught for the wrong reasons?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:20 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:18 pm I need an explanation as to how I called out two townies and a scum bud. There has yet to be a single one and it's infuriating.

Would you like me to pull out the big imaginary book of mafia again?

Go ahead.

Well, there is a chapter or two dedicated to a rather nebulous concept that I have seen various facets of all referenced as "rule of three" or "rule of thirds". For a multitude of complementary reasons, a wolf will list three players (because groups of three are inherently more satisfying), one of which will be a scumbud, two of which will be townies. This scumtell mostly goes over my head on paper, but it is one of those things that you intuitively understand better than one could explain it to you, like WIFOM. It also refers to the tendency to put two thirds of one's scumbuds into their town reads, and one third into their null/scum reads. Googling this concept does not fetch me any suitable results, either. So, in this instance, you calling out three players specifically is slightly more likely to come from scum, and it is likely that exactly one of the three is a scumbud of yours given you are scum.

This the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.

Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.

Thou doth protest too much

I don't think Dragomir is faking his indignation and that's a pretty positive town look. I just wish you weren't so pingy man lol.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it

Yeah but does it make him scum?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:20 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:13 pm Okay Dragomir you win this skirmish, but I still think you're bad.

Do you have another reason for why?

Sure, but first tell me who your top 2 town reads are and your bottom 2 reads are?

Sloonei and Ted.

LC and TSP.

I have TSP as a pretty solid town read. Why you hate him?