The Syndicate

On the bright side. If she flips scum we just cleared a bunch of the POE. Eh?

Accusing someone of being mafia is not being hostile. Calling someone you town read a coward is quite hostile.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:46 pm Y'all need to learn to not big dick every game you play is what I am saying. It's a social game. We're meant to be having fun. Champs is where you can channel your endless competitive desire.
Keep in mind that you were calling me mafia as I was trying to lynch someone else.

Very nicely. You called me a coward and repeatedly insulted my intelligence.

Y'all need to learn to not big dick every game you play is what I am saying. It's a social game. We're meant to be having fun. Champs is where you can channel your endless competitive desire.

I don't even see why you guys got all "Daisy is super obvious town" over that. It was this weird little hivemindy cliquey bullshit that triggered me. And you all were hostile to me during it also so I felt obliged to reject your wagon to spite you frankly.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:37 pm Well that sucks. I was gonna jump off at the last minute like a big surprise for the fun of it to make a tie but y'all wrecked the wagon formation lol.
maybe don't keep that in your pocket next time
Wouldn't have been a surprise if I telegraphed it.
it didn't need to be a surprise

Oh didn't it? My bad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:37 pm Well that sucks. I was gonna jump off at the last minute like a big surprise for the fun of it to make a tie but y'all wrecked the wagon formation lol.
maybe don't keep that in your pocket next time

Wouldn't have been a surprise if I telegraphed it.

Anyway I'm confident she was bad. You'll see. You'll all see.

Well that sucks. I was gonna jump off at the last minute like a big surprise for the fun of it to make a tie but y'all wrecked the wagon formation lol.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:31 pm You don't have the numbers I don't think. You might as well just stop cuz I am not moving off Daisy.
I hope you're right
Yeah same but also I don't actually mind. Soneji and Long Con clearly have given people boners for their lynch so they'll go down sooner or later. I feel like if I don't get this Daisy lynch today she'll hang around and endgame.
Cowardice

You are the best.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:32 pm He's wrong. But you've got a lot to go off of for tomorrow. Good luck civs.

You have 3 minutes to convince me to change my mind. I, unlike Jay, Sloonei and Nutella, haven't seen in you anything above supremely easy to muster content. You've not done any significant solving. Everything is just reads without any real justification outside of in context of your own preservation. It's just not enough to override the initial suspicion for me. Sorry if I'm wrong. Good to have you back.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:31 pm You don't have the numbers I don't think. You might as well just stop cuz I am not moving off Daisy.
I hope you're right

Yeah same but also I don't actually mind. Soneji and Long Con clearly have given people boners for their lynch so they'll go down sooner or later. I feel like if I don't get this Daisy lynch today she'll hang around and endgame.

So funny. You guys just totally railed off one player to another that has scarcely rated a mention. Which of the three of you is the mafia?

You don't have the numbers I don't think. You might as well just stop cuz I am not moving off Daisy.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:27 pm This is bad. One of you is actually bad. Lynching Long Con when he's not here in an avalanche like this is bad.
Did you not lead the lynch on jack in exactly this manner yesterday?

These two things are not the same.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:29 pm It's alright, Jay. If it will convince Mac, let me be lynched and he will see.

Lynch him tomorrow. Or sig. Either one will probably net you a baddie.

Lynch me?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:27 pm This is bad. One of you is actually bad. Lynching Long Con when he's not here in an avalanche like this is bad.
I will never understand why people care about this

If Long Con is Mafia he missed end of day 1 which cost him his teammate and has again failed to show up to EOD.

Not a thing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:27 pm LC's vote is open, so Daisy is dead if people don't show up / Mac doesn't move.

Of the four of you it's clearly just Daisy.

This is bad. One of you is actually bad. Lynching Long Con when he's not here in an avalanche like this is bad.

Mac says no.

Daisy's suddenly mustered energy. Ping but whatever I'm not the boss of Mafia so I'll defer to my betters.

No votes on motobot and myo is a bit odd. Not quite the number of wolves needed for it to be a major tell but it is a bit odd.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:22 pm My heart tells me to lynch Long Con.

Yeah I think we probably should just do that. Gimme a sec.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm Nobody actually truly town reads Jay here right? I mean aside from Daisy who hasn't explained why and is being shielded by him? Surely everyone has the same doubt I have.
Nah
Helpful Sloonei. Cheers mate.
Jay = Town
How many times have you caught scum Jay vs. not caught scum Jay?
i honestly do not remember the last time I failed to catch scum jay

Alright we should infolynch Sloonei and if he's town we can let Jay live.

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:16 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:13 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate
Or he's your teammate.
Totally within the realms of possibility.
Only if he's a civ. :P
Sig why haven't you tunneled me this game? You always tunnel me. What's the dealio?
Only in games where your mafia, or mafia seeming havent seen that this game.

Plus you lead the lynch d1 while its within your mafia meta nobody would go along with it anyway.

Mainly though havent seen a good reason to yet. If your alive in a few phases and we dont hit mafia then you've gotta go.

I'm going to presume that you didn't realise you were quoting me in that post before based on this post or you've just lost your mind.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:12 pm The Daisy wagon is howling. So she's town yeah I'll give you that much. I just have far better reasoning than you.
what

you just said she was howling

I don't understand what your opinion is

Step 1 - I find Daisy suspicious.
Step 2 - I realise her wagon is full of suspicious people.
Step 3 - I recant step 1.

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:12 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate
This is so fake. We just did this on Day 1 and killed a mafioso.
I'm very hesitant to back a CFD, always am they frequently aren't right and lynch civs and are a tool for mafia.

Furthermore this one is just throwing names out, seems disjointed and panicky.

Paired with the fact both you and daisy almost jumped at me at same time makes me think you could be teammates honestly.

I also don't like her vague hints we shouldnt lynch her.
Citation needed.
You and Daisy are aiming for LC or me, but only me after I came in and voted before that nothing.

It's quite clear your trying to save her right now.

You what? Me? You think I am aiming for you and trying to save her? Did you think you were quoting Jay here?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:14 pm Sure. When he doesn't have a well established position with strong mechanical evidence contrary to his gut on a player that he doesn't know is actually genuinely capable of manipulating him by creating authentic sounding posts.
Spacedaisy is capable of fooling me. I don't care. I am here to make judgments. I don't think she's mafia.

I am aware of that being your opinion Jay. That was never in doubt.

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:13 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate
Or he's your teammate.
Totally within the realms of possibility.
Only if he's a civ. :P

Sig why haven't you tunneled me this game? You always tunnel me. What's the dealio?

sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:12 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate
This is so fake. We just did this on Day 1 and killed a mafioso.
I'm very hesitant to back a CFD, always am they frequently aren't right and lynch civs and are a tool for mafia.

Furthermore this one is just throwing names out, seems disjointed and panicky.

Paired with the fact both you and daisy almost jumped at me at same time makes me think you could be teammates honestly.

I also don't like her vague hints we shouldnt lynch her.

Citation needed.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm All of the signs point at Daisy but then Daisy makes one random soft ATE post and suddenly Jay is like "nah sounds authentic" dropping all of his reasoning in favour of a snap town read. I don't buy it. Jay is either spewing her town or her partner.
I don't bake in tunnels like 98% of civilians. That's one of my best traits. If I see a civilian in one post, then I see a civilian. I don't need to roast on it all day. I don't give a shit.
You see one Daisy post and it overrules all of the mechanical reasoning that she is scum that you and several others agree on. This is not Jay. You do not do this. You play analytically. You are off meta. You only do snap reads on day 1. Everything else is analytical. I literally just watched you play town.
This is just false what? Jay snap reads people as town based on posts/tone all the time dude

Sure. When he doesn't have a well established position with strong mechanical evidence contrary to his gut on a player that he doesn't know is actually genuinely capable of manipulating him by creating authentic sounding posts.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm So I was just sleeping but afyer reading everything I like this wagon more so then lc

I never was for LC and this last minute push away form daisy onto either me or LC doesn't seem genuine seems like an attempt to save a teammate
Or he's your teammate.

Totally within the realms of possibility.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm Nobody actually truly town reads Jay here right? I mean aside from Daisy who hasn't explained why and is being shielded by him? Surely everyone has the same doubt I have.
Nah
Helpful Sloonei. Cheers mate.
Jay = Town
How many times have you caught scum Jay vs. not caught scum Jay?
Sloonei has caught me more than anyone alive. Including you.

I asked him Jay. Don't be rude.

The Daisy wagon is howling. So she's town yeah I'll give you that much. I just have far better reasoning than you.

Jay needs to die. For the good of the city.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm Nobody actually truly town reads Jay here right? I mean aside from Daisy who hasn't explained why and is being shielded by him? Surely everyone has the same doubt I have.
Nah
Helpful Sloonei. Cheers mate.
Jay = Town

How many times have you caught scum Jay vs. not caught scum Jay?

I think there's a pretty solid chance that the last two scum are just two of jiwon, myo and motobot tbh. There is something lacking in this game that would be here if we had mafia in other names. And I kinda feel like they would be lurking more if they were town, as strange as that sounds.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm All of the signs point at Daisy but then Daisy makes one random soft ATE post and suddenly Jay is like "nah sounds authentic" dropping all of his reasoning in favour of a snap town read. I don't buy it. Jay is either spewing her town or her partner.
I don't bake in tunnels like 98% of civilians. That's one of my best traits. If I see a civilian in one post, then I see a civilian. I don't need to roast on it all day. I don't give a shit.
You see one Daisy post and it overrules all of the mechanical reasoning that she is scum that you and several others agree on. This is not Jay. You do not do this. You play analytically. You are off meta. You only do snap reads on day 1. Everything else is analytical. I literally just watched you play town.
Every time you try to tell me how I play you say shit that wrong as hell. You have got to stop doing that.

I played an abnormally analytic game in the qualifier because the post restriction called for that. I use my gut too. I favor my gut.

I will stop saying shit that is wrong as hell when I come to know that it is wrong not when I am being told by the greatest liar of our generation.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:00 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:58 pm What guy, Long Con or Jay? Long Con is bad. Jay is good.
Why is Jay good?
That is what my gut tells me.

That's a pretty strong statement for what amounts to a gut read. You sure you aren't just trying to pocket him Daisy?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:43 pm I will be lynched today, I've known that from the start of the night. What I did not say during the night was that you need to watch the people who are backing off me now. The ones who are soft pedaling my lynch and letting others go after me hard. They don't really want to save me, so they'll go along with the lynch, but they are distancing themselves from leading it because they know I am about to flip civilian.

I feel pretty certain Mac, Nutella, Sloonei and Jay are civ.

Jay is this really the post that made you town read her? Explain how it's authentic enough for such a stark turnaround on her please?

Daisy is actually literally howling btw. So I don't even buy that Jay actually town read the post he said he did. It's totally asinine.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:58 pm STFU Mac and make a decision
Okay big boi

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

Our only avenue of defeat is in leaving you alive so thanks for the day 2 effort posts we'll take it from here.
I know you're scared of daddy Jay, but no dude. If you don't want Long Con, who else is a viable alternative to daisy
I posted my POE, you were in it.
I know. It's token Mac. It's fine. I'm town.

You asked who is a viable alternative. My POE is a viable alternative. LC is also in it. You are in it. The rest are people I don't really feel like we're gonna take to endgame anyway so they don't worry me at all.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm All of the signs point at Daisy but then Daisy makes one random soft ATE post and suddenly Jay is like "nah sounds authentic" dropping all of his reasoning in favour of a snap town read. I don't buy it. Jay is either spewing her town or her partner.
I don't bake in tunnels like 98% of civilians. That's one of my best traits. If I see a civilian in one post, then I see a civilian. I don't need to roast on it all day. I don't give a shit.

You see one Daisy post and it overrules all of the mechanical reasoning that she is scum that you and several others agree on. This is not Jay. You do not do this. You play analytically. You are off meta. You only do snap reads on day 1. Everything else is analytical. I literally just watched you play town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:02 pm Nobody actually truly town reads Jay here right? I mean aside from Daisy who hasn't explained why and is being shielded by him? Surely everyone has the same doubt I have.
Nah

Helpful Sloonei. Cheers mate.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:58 pm STFU Mac and make a decision
Okay big boi

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

Our only avenue of defeat is in leaving you alive so thanks for the day 2 effort posts we'll take it from here.
I know you're scared of daddy Jay, but no dude. If you don't want Long Con, who else is a viable alternative to daisy

I posted my POE, you were in it.

Nobody actually truly town reads Jay here right? I mean aside from Daisy who hasn't explained why and is being shielded by him? Surely everyone has the same doubt I have.

All of the signs point at Daisy but then Daisy makes one random soft ATE post and suddenly Jay is like "nah sounds authentic" dropping all of his reasoning in favour of a snap town read. I don't buy it. Jay is either spewing her town or her partner.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:58 pm What guy, Long Con or Jay? Long Con is bad. Jay is good.

Why is Jay good?

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