The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:28 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:02 pm Keep this up Mac and I might flop you over to the mafia side of my Mac meta.

oh no how scary sig is threatening to omgus me

I mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.

Though pretty sure your town, however If you're not I still want one "I told you so" to everyone.

Also for real now @MacDougall

what do you think of falcon and jack?

I think Jack is town. I have Falcon as a very mild lean wolf. He seems wolfy on play but then he hasn't tried to appease me the way you did here with the bolded, which I give him town points for.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:14 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:02 pm Keep this up Mac and I might flop you over to the mafia side of my Mac meta.

oh no how scary sig is threatening to omgus me

I mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.

Every time I suspect you regardless of your alignment you always make this argument which is always incorrect as I've pushed you as town many times, and been correct many times...

I think you are sus. Not being pushed since d1 given your performance here is strongly indicative that you are mafia or the mafia would have tried to push you.

What about pushing you of all people makes me dumb? Where do you get off calling me dumb for daring to push a tepid, omgussy Sig that has been coasting?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:10 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:06 pm hey all, just a reminder that game throwing is a serious accusation and against site rules. if you truly believe someone is intentionally not playing to their wincon report it to the MoDs instead of making accusations in the thread.

please do not interact with this post.

The only time I seriously thought a player was game throwing, he was a townie PR trying to dodge nks and then he turned around like “everything it was doing is fake. I’m the cop. Wolves are X and Y.”

Plus like what if the player you think is gamethrowing is like a wolf after all?

So like I’m never ever gonna seriously accuse anyone of throwing during a game. Feels like this era’s version of saying you’re boning somebody’s mom on XBL.

bruh

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:53 am @MacDougall let's say I believe you for a second, what do you think about Lime Coke. Did not vote Sabie D1, D3 he claims a role block on Jack as being mechanically definitive when it's obviously not - even with no knowledge of the set up, you know that there are 2 of each role. Therefore any one action OBVIOUSLY can't be viewed this way.

sure but he's pretty townie

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:02 pm Keep this up Mac and I might flop you over to the mafia side of my Mac meta.

oh no how scary sig is threatening to omgus me

why does sig have 0 votes lol

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:21 pm Notice how I said “Games” instead of “Game”.

@MacDougall
@Guillotine

salty

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:28 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:17 am Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

You told me to not worry about him in games why are you doing it now ya wolfy fuque.

When did I tell you that

Sounds like bad advice

You've been like lol that's just Seth you should just not care. You bad bad bad baddie.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:17 am Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

You told me to not worry about him in games why are you doing it now ya wolfy fuque.

i got out the old laptop and everyone left fuck

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:42 am @DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.

Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.

Don't like Falcon either.

I honestly think Wilgy is very likely town due to the massive amount of Null he has and how much wolf equity others have and town equity other have.

I think Sig has been decently Townie so I don’t think it’s them.

Nanook - Jack - Falcon is there PoE
And if TSP/Marmot are alive during a later time in the game they both need to go.

ok I am town

now assume you know that for a second

what chance do you think there is a mafia voting for me right now between naa and wilgy?

keep in mind this is a high percentage read lol

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:44 am I think Axe is probably town for pushing me/Dolby over and over. Feels like something he'd get fixated on. Whether he's right or wrong I believe he believes it.

Do wonder why Axe doesn't wanna push Nanook tho. I did ask and he said Nook can be mafia but there's been no actual concerted effort to push there.

But I did feel he was sincere when he said he never rands mafia with Nanook.

By golly this list is not one that suits me to solve through lol.

Don’t worry I have the solve for you just follow my list.

if you stop overreacting every time I tinfoil you maybe I could get there but sussing everyone to see what happens is kinda my thing and you go nuts every time lol

@NotAnAxehole I'm town red heavy and self saved last night. Just putting that here for you to read. Also you @DrWilgy.

NAA why you no push Nanook?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME who do you want to chop today?

Dolby probably town for that yeah.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:41 am @LinearPoint why did you say if the maf kill was blocked it was Nook? I only see one RB claim and it's LC blocking Jack?

Well Dolby also claimed to have roleblocked Nanook.

I missed that un. Thanks.

I think Axe is probably town for pushing me/Dolby over and over. Feels like something he'd get fixated on. Whether he's right or wrong I believe he believes it.

Do wonder why Axe doesn't wanna push Nanook tho. I did ask and he said Nook can be mafia but there's been no actual concerted effort to push there.

But I did feel he was sincere when he said he never rands mafia with Nanook.

By golly this list is not one that suits me to solve through lol.

@DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.

Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.

Don't like Falcon either.

@LinearPoint why did you say if the maf kill was blocked it was Nook? I only see one RB claim and it's LC blocking Jack?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:37 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:35 am Ok it’s past midnight I’m gonna crash

Oh shit, me too.

I'm just gonna sheep Mac today. I gotta work 12 hours tomorrow. fucking holidays when will they be over.

@MacDougall consider yourself a double voter. (This is not a claim silly people)

um ok

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:33 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:29 am We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.

So you're saying Jack hard busses sabie?

nah I think Jack is probably town... I'm just not so sure nanook is the optimal person to kill from the sabie voters... not to say he isn't I just am currently sort of pondering the notion that sabie was bussed by not Jack.

Who would be that optimal person

And If you say me… just no

Why not you. What makes you town?

I did a bit of an iso of jackly diddly and think he's town mostly from a post that nobody will agree with me on... not cuz of his vote.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:33 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:29 am We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.

So you're saying Jack hard busses sabie?

nah I think Jack is probably town... I'm just not so sure nanook is the optimal person to kill from the sabie voters... not to say he isn't I just am currently sort of pondering the notion that sabie was bussed by not Jack.

@Gavial read on Falcon?

yes gavial if you flip town here I will resign myself to re-evaluating my meta understanding of you next time

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:29 am We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:27 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:25 am @MacDougall
Promise not to do this again to me next game or are you still gonna be a douche because you don’t like the way I play?

I do like the way you play actually. It's different. I just think you're a wolf. Where have I been a douche?

Your pushing me based on a game I was wolf rather then looking at all the games I play especially ones I’ve been town in.

Is that really worth calling me a douche over sir?

Yes I am looking at the most recent game because it's fresh in the mind and I'm not someone who cares to troll through past games of anyone much less someone whose posts as much as you. This I'd a game not a university assignment.

cool it on the insults gavial I am really good at hurting feelings and I don't want to upset you buddeh

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:25 am @MacDougall
Promise not to do this again to me next game or are you still gonna be a douche because you don’t like the way I play?

I do like the way you play actually. It's different. I just think you're a wolf. Where have I been a douche?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:23 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:17 am Honestly, I don't feel like Gav is Mafia.
He's actually way to wolfy to ever be wolf.

Stop that now, they said that last game and they will think I’m even more wolf.


I personally feel like I’m playing optimal here but I suppose everyone’s entitled to their own opinion.

We vote off Nanook or Jack today and we will see what happens tonight.

this is the part where gavial starts pushing his teammates and they go over and it buys him some time but his playstyle drains his team of resources and leaves it as just gavial alone and he can't win in f3 because he's gavial

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:20 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:17 am Honestly, I don't feel like Gav is Mafia.
He's actually way to wolfy to ever be wolf.

You cannot make this read on Gavial... he just got to f3 as mafia doing this exact same shit and only lost because of how much he pissed falcon off Falcon voted him cuz he didn't want to lose to him. He coasted an entire game just openly doing pro wolf chaotic silly shit and bussed his lone teammate.

This game ended literally last week it'd fresh meta.

Yep here it is!

Gotta love this BS!

Where is the lie?

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:23 am Really the only reason I put Nanook over NAA is the fact that NAA is so blatant in his anti-townness and Nanook tries to be shy about it.

You have no experience with any of these people right?

Cuz NAA and Gavial are the two most openly pro wolf wolfrands you will ever see and Nanook isn't far behind them.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:15 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:12 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 am Don’t think Gav is TMIing but I don’t like him pushing the two clearest people in the game, and I also feel like the way that Sabie talked about him and had to be pressured to vote from him is w/w

No man, that's the purest form of TMI. He implied that Mac is town by saying he wouldn't kill him if he was Mafia. Gavial knows Mac is town lol.

TF are you smoking?
He said as mafia I would kill him.
I said he wouldn’t.

Lol! GAVIAL TMI’ed.

Like honestly dude WTF!?

Don't WTF me. You TMIed Mac like noobish scum do. Don't blame me, blame yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You taking what Mac’s taking?

you should do yourself a favour and stop pretending like I'm an illogical dumbass when I'm empirically one of the best mafia players in the game lol

Are you really?
You sus on Martin/Guillo then removed isn’t that “best”
Let’s not forget you called TSP potential scum but then didn’t put him in your PoE.
“Best”
Right
Mmmm
Ok.

Maybe one day you'll realise there's more to mafia than constantly screaming about whatever is on your mind at any given moment.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:18 am Just not this level of pushing mech clear townies and proposing their deaths though

Nah this is carbon copy of Akemi Homura the only difference being he has mech fuckery to further cloud shit. In Akemi he tunneled all the town no matter how mech clear. That's just what he does.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:16 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:15 am And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?

who are your scum?

Currently I don't know. No one really stands out as extremely obvious.
Nanook I'm putting at about 99% guarenteed Mafia.
Jack might be just because of the RB really, and the last one is between Gullio, Martin, Mac, NAA, or Dolby.

Nobody stands out as extremely obvious but Nanook is 99% guaranteed?

Lol ok.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:17 am Honestly, I don't feel like Gav is Mafia.
He's actually way to wolfy to ever be wolf.

You cannot make this read on Gavial... he just got to f3 as mafia doing this exact same shit and only lost because of how much he pissed falcon off Falcon voted him cuz he didn't want to lose to him. He coasted an entire game just openly doing pro wolf chaotic silly shit and bussed his lone teammate.

This game ended literally last week it'd fresh meta.

For me

Wilgy
Falcon
Jack
Gavial
Dolby

is the POE

which is astonishing because it means that the town saved sabie from a hardcore bus...

which honestly makes sense lol

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:15 am And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?

who are your scum?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:12 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 am Don’t think Gav is TMIing but I don’t like him pushing the two clearest people in the game, and I also feel like the way that Sabie talked about him and had to be pressured to vote from him is w/w

No man, that's the purest form of TMI. He implied that Mac is town by saying he wouldn't kill him if he was Mafia. Gavial knows Mac is town lol.

TF are you smoking?
He said as mafia I would kill him.
I said he wouldn’t.

Lol! GAVIAL TMI’ed.

Like honestly dude WTF!?

Don't WTF me. You TMIed Mac like noobish scum do. Don't blame me, blame yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You taking what Mac’s taking?

you should do yourself a favour and stop pretending like I'm an illogical dumbass when I'm empirically one of the best mafia players in the game lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:12 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:07 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:02 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 am Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.

If I was mafia I wouldn’t kill you LMAO.

Did you just TMIed Macdougall town right now?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:03 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Fuck dude. Gavial just ouuted himself lol.

I’m Town so I did not out anything.

I’m just saying he wouldn’t be my target of choice if I was mafia and he was town.

Why do you say that?

I don’t kill players who are suspicious of me.

well that is also a massive lie

literally went to night with a townread on you after having earlier suspicion... which is exactly what was the situation last time you killed me

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:07 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:02 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 am Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.

If I was mafia I wouldn’t kill you LMAO.

Did you just TMIed Macdougall town right now?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:03 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Fuck dude. Gavial just ouuted himself lol.

I’m Town so I did not out anything.

I’m just saying he wouldn’t be my target of choice if I was mafia and he was town.

Why do you say that?

I don’t kill players who are suspicious of me.

well that is also a massive lie

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:10 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:08 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:46 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:41 am TSP claiming Sniper with a shot on Sabie is borderline outting himself as town since he probably wouldn’t think to do that if he didn’t actually do that.

I think Guillo said something similar yesterday but yeah

So is everyone’s readslist like this:
Top Town:
Marmot
TSP

Instead of like this:
Lime Coke
LinearPoint


Lmao.

Lime Coke and Linearpoint are my top town probably. I am sus of TSP. Not so much Marmot.

Fantastic, if you get me ML’ed you can borrow my readslist because it’s something you can use in this game and live onward to help our wincon instead of continuing to go the route your going.
If your Wolf you can still borrow my readslist but it’ll be obvious your wolf eventually because town you would know how to use my readslist better.

what is this game losing route you think I'm taking anyway? if it's being suspect of you you'd be wrong about that being game losing as either alignment.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 am @Lime Coke can you or someone please tell me all the mech that's occurred in this game?

I blocked Jack, Dolby blocked Nanook, Gavial is aiming at Marmot, Marmot has nothing to report, NAA said that he forgot to send an action.

So far that's all that's happened at least for N2.

You saw my claim yes?

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:46 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:41 am TSP claiming Sniper with a shot on Sabie is borderline outting himself as town since he probably wouldn’t think to do that if he didn’t actually do that.

I think Guillo said something similar yesterday but yeah

So is everyone’s readslist like this:
Top Town:
Marmot
TSP

Instead of like this:
Lime Coke
LinearPoint


Lmao.

Lime Coke and Linearpoint are my top town probably. I am sus of TSP. Not so much Marmot.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:01 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 am Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.

If I was mafia I wouldn’t kill you LMAO.

You literally killed me when I was more or less in the same position in the previous game.

Also you are TMIing my alignment right now with the way you're talking about me.

More or less?
You were almost confirmed town in that game and my reason for keeping you alive weren’t there anymore, you aren’t anywhere near the position you were in last game to this game and if you keep comparing this game with that game your gonna lose focus to the actual Gamestate so my suggestion is if you wanna talk meta, look everywhere for it and don’t be sidetracked in the same place.

I was no more or less as confirmed in that game as I am here. And you had spent aeons tinfoiling me. My gamefeel and situational awareness was also the same.

@Lime Coke can you or someone please tell me all the mech that's occurred in this game?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:02 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 am Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.

If I was mafia I wouldn’t kill you LMAO.

Did you just TMIed Macdougall town right now?

This is also a hallmark of Gavial. He hard pushes people and they when they push back he talks to them like they're wrong not bad.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:01 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:57 am Now if we can all calm down and everyone helps me I'll happily solve the game for you.

Gavial is just tilting all the town again exactly as he did in Akemi Homura so he's just mafia imo.

Is Gavial the kind of player to openly propose killing mech cleared townies? Specially after losing one?

That is a bit suicidal in my opinion. Gavial reminds me of me in storm tossed game where I just let tinfoil get the worst out of me.

Gavial just relies on townies reading him like this. It is kind of just his thing.

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:59 am Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.

If I was mafia I wouldn’t kill you LMAO.

You literally killed me when I was more or less in the same position in the previous game.

Also you are TMIing my alignment right now with the way you're talking about me.

Also I've not used any of my vote manipulation abilities so far because I didn't play day 1 much and day 2 was a sleepwalk.

Fwiw I figured I should use my self save last night because even though I'm getting pushed it's by nobody whose opinion matters and the mafia would know they're not gonna be able to miskill me so I figured I'd be a likely maf kill to attempt to medic dodge. Goes triple if Gavial is mafia.