The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:54 am And do you know Quin to be an inactive mafia member? I consider him one of the finer and more confident mafia members I have ever had the pleasure of teaming with.

And I don't see that much solving. Am I missing where he has made some great and insightful civvie posts?

I don't know him to be an inactive mafia member. I would expect less concerted effort than I saw from him though with Internet problems hampering him if he didn't have a vested interest in figuring out the game.

And if his vested interest was on winning the game via not beinf lynched day 1 as mafia?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:05 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:00 am Quin, Jay have you played with Mac before?

Three times, maybe. My impression from those games is that he doesn't care about his process as long as he catches scum. I've never seen a scum game he's lived more than one day in, though I'd guess it's the same thing.

Really? I swear we have played a lot more than that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:54 am And do you know Quin to be an inactive mafia member? I consider him one of the finer and more confident mafia members I have ever had the pleasure of teaming with.

And I don't see that much solving. Am I missing where he has made some great and insightful civvie posts?

I don't know him to be an inactive mafia member. I would expect less concerted effort than I saw from him though with Internet problems hampering him if he didn't have a vested interest in figuring out the game. I think his posts bear that appearance too, even without necessarily being great and insightful. Granted, if this Internet issue was the only thing I liked about Quin I probably wouldn't have found the same inspiration to change my mind about him. It was one point among a few.

If you want to hang out in the tunnel for a while, be my guest. I've moved on for the time being.

I'm not tunneling Jimmy. That's unfair and for someone who influences most of the play to say that is not appropriate. I have made reads on a lot of players and I have given quin lots of time to change my mind too.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:50 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:14 am I just had a quick read of kyle's iso and I am dropping him to a suspect. I would support his lynch. He had utilised a lot of tactics I employ when mafia. Focus on mechanisms. Lots of fluffiness. Lots of civ reads and de-escalation and very little active accusations have come from him.

Who is bad Kyle?

hey please tell me who my 'lots of civ reads' are because I can only think of 2 people that I read as civ right now, 3 if you count Glorfindel.

I don't go out of my way to make a lot of unique accusations unless I notice something other people aren't focusing on, like I did with Sloonei.

I don't think I've really de-escalated anything... I gave a possible reason for why LC might be acting the way he is because I wanted to make sure the full story was being considered.

Where are you even getting most of this? What are my fluff posts?

All of your posts can be described as how I put them. Perhaps you are as you say someone who doesn't make mafia reads lightly but I am reading it how I am.

Please excuse me. Lots of should be replaced with some. The point is being ignored in your reply though. As to be expected from a mafia player.

look dude... I really don't trust that your read on me is coming from a sincere place. you're putting the cart before the horse and assuming I'm mafia before even asking me anything or really investigating at all.

is this how you usually operate?

No I read your entire iso before I arrived at the conclusion that you are suspicious. I see you finally have a potential scum read though so that's good. A shame that it's the world's most blatant no u.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:48 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:46 am MacDougall please tell me what your current reads are on Jack, Made, LC, and Sloonei

What is this trend where players feel like they can just haphazardly make demands of other players like this? I do not like it. It is a very easy way to move the dialogue away from the topic at hand and you have given me no reason for why you chose those four names. Furthermore I have a very recent read on jack and LC so it really feels like you are just trying to change the conversation.

we don't have to change the subject but I still want an answer from you

knowing your current reads on those four players helps me assess your motivation

I question you are genuinely trying to solve anything given you have asked me to provide reads on two players that if anyone was genuinely paying attention would know my position on. Given that I question your motives for asking I will refrain. I hope you understand.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:54 am All of my posts are great, insightful and civvy. That's why I'm such a good mafia member.

You're very chipper with KOFM in here defending you aren't you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:48 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:46 am MacDougall please tell me what your current reads are on Jack, Made, LC, and Sloonei

What is this trend where players feel like they can just haphazardly make demands of other players like this? I do not like it. It is a very easy way to move the dialogue away from the topic at hand and you have given me no reason for why you chose those four names. Furthermore I have a very recent read on jack and LC so it really feels like you are just trying to change the conversation.

I would seriously like for people to discourage this type of posting for the reason outlined. Encouraging it is giving mafia teams a weapon.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:51 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:46 am Generally yes but in this context in particular? You genuinely feel that the average player is more likely to seek out alternative ways to play the game as a civvie than mafia?

In a vacuum, absolutely yes. Mafia members slank off more in general, and when the universe hands them an excuse to do it free of judgment, many of them are going to be very pleased -- even those who've been under some pressure. Also consider the character of Quin's involvement in this period of connectivity issues: is he merely fending off accusations and assure survival, or is he attempting to solve the game?

And do you know Quin to be an inactive mafia member? I consider him one of the finer and more confident mafia members I have ever had the pleasure of teaming with.

And I don't see that much solving. Am I missing where he has made some great and insightful civvie posts?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:49 am

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:47 am @Quin and @Kylemii: I’m still struggling to find where both of you sit in my ‘world of Elven reads’ this game (this is by no means an accusation so there is no need to be defensive). I’m wondering though if you guys would care to (briefly) help me by explaining why I (and everyone else for that matter) should be reading you as Towny?

Because MacDougall suspects me and he's always wrong on Day 1. Also my role card says so.

Haha how provocative of you.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:14 am I just had a quick read of kyle's iso and I am dropping him to a suspect. I would support his lynch. He had utilised a lot of tactics I employ when mafia. Focus on mechanisms. Lots of fluffiness. Lots of civ reads and de-escalation and very little active accusations have come from him.

Who is bad Kyle?

hey please tell me who my 'lots of civ reads' are because I can only think of 2 people that I read as civ right now, 3 if you count Glorfindel.

I don't go out of my way to make a lot of unique accusations unless I notice something other people aren't focusing on, like I did with Sloonei.

I don't think I've really de-escalated anything... I gave a possible reason for why LC might be acting the way he is because I wanted to make sure the full story was being considered.

Where are you even getting most of this? What are my fluff posts?

All of your posts can be described as how I put them. Perhaps you are as you say someone who doesn't make mafia reads lightly but I am reading it how I am.

Please excuse me. Lots of should be replaced with some. The point is being ignored in your reply though. As to be expected from a mafia player.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:46 am MacDougall please tell me what your current reads are on Jack, Made, LC, and Sloonei

What is this trend where players feel like they can just haphazardly make demands of other players like this? I do not like it. It is a very easy way to move the dialogue away from the topic at hand and you have given me no reason for why you chose those four names. Furthermore I have a very recent read on jack and LC so it really feels like you are just trying to change the conversation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:34 am So Jimmy you are saying that there is no value in considering what you would do in a situation when assessing what another player would do, at all, unless they were a similar player to you?

I would say that the value is limited. It might serve as a baseline in the absence of any known personality or play style (like if I am playing on a new site or judging a newcomer from another site). I don't hold other players to my own standards if I already know they don't play the way I do, because other players generally aren't hopelessly competitive and obsessive like I can be. That's to their credit.

Generally yes but in this context in particular? You genuinely feel that the average player is more likely to seek out alternative ways to play the game as a civvie than mafia?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:34 am A direct parallel I can draw for Quin is to the RED vs. BLUE game, when Golden and I screamed at him for a while, eventually leading to his mislynch. One of the reasons I was screaming was Quin's handling of his other accuser, Golden. I thought it looked terrible and I lynched him and he was a civilian. Looking back now at Day 0 of this game, I was screaming at him at least in part for his handling of an accuser (me) and his general obstinate reception of that felt familiar.

A good argument against your own logic. Says nothing about his alignment. I would say his response to our assault in the early game is just how he would respond either way.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:31 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:26 am

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:25 am Tell me why each of the other points in my defence are not good arguments, Mac.

What are they?

You tell me. You're the one campaigning the lynch me.

I'm not going digging in the thread for every post someone has made to defend you just to refute them all line by line because you asked me to with a low effort post. Sorry bub I have better things to do with my time. If you want me to do something with that much effort assist me. Or you can just not get your way.

So Jimmy you are saying that there is no value in considering what you would do in a situation when assessing what another player would do, at all, unless they were a similar player to you?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:25 am Tell me why each of the other points in my defence are not good arguments, Mac.

What are they?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:20 am

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:06 am Personally I would like to ultimately see quin lynched. I feel he is the most compelling lynch and given the volume he has posted if the only good reason anyone has to refute the bad stuff is that he would probably not post as much as a mafia player with bad internet well I disagree and that's an awful reason.

Jimmy. If you were a mafia player who had bad internet and were one of the few players looking lynchable would you post with less frequency than if you were town with bad internet? I feel entirely the opposite and having really thought about it I really question the nature of the analysis from you. Bad look.

Has anyone actually made this point? 3J considered the effort in finding alternative ways to access the game thread, not my level of participation as a result of my lack of internet.

How is that not the same thing? Would you not seek out said alternatives in order to maintain participation?

3J did not say "wow quin looks good because even though his internet sucks he's posting a lot". 3J said "wow quin looks good because he went through the effort of getting internet access so he could participate whereas a mafia might not be as motivated to do that. also he's just such a cool person i could never seriously scumread him"

That is how they are different.

Okay so you are arguing what?

Jimmy said it how you said it. I believe implying what I stated. I disagree either way. I believe the average player would be more inclined to do that as a mafia player under pressure than a civ.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:06 am Personally I would like to ultimately see quin lynched. I feel he is the most compelling lynch and given the volume he has posted if the only good reason anyone has to refute the bad stuff is that he would probably not post as much as a mafia player with bad internet well I disagree and that's an awful reason.

Jimmy. If you were a mafia player who had bad internet and were one of the few players looking lynchable would you post with less frequency than if you were town with bad internet? I feel entirely the opposite and having really thought about it I really question the nature of the analysis from you. Bad look.

Has anyone actually made this point? 3J considered the effort in finding alternative ways to access the game thread, not my level of participation as a result of my lack of internet.

How is that not the same thing? Would you not seek out said alternatives in order to maintain participation?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:06 am Personally I would like to ultimately see quin lynched. I feel he is the most compelling lynch and given the volume he has posted if the only good reason anyone has to refute the bad stuff is that he would probably not post as much as a mafia player with bad internet well I disagree and that's an awful reason.

Jimmy. If you were a mafia player who had bad internet and were one of the few players looking lynchable would you post with less frequency than if you were town with bad internet? I feel entirely the opposite and having really thought about it I really question the nature of the analysis from you. Bad look.

I would probably find a public place with wi-fi and post from the restroom stalls. I don't give a shit what I would do. Quin is not me. That also wasn't the only reason I changed my mind about Quin. Go read my posts and then tell me how bad they look.

Your posts look busy and look like you. You know that. You also know that it's the detail in which you can unravel so asking me to go read your posts like that is facetious. You sound like you would rather me just assume you are civ? What does that sound like? Dare we not question you?

What you would do is very relevant when in the context of your analysis of players. Answer my question without the defensiveness.

I just had a quick read of kyle's iso and I am dropping him to a suspect. I would support his lynch. He had utilised a lot of tactics I employ when mafia. Focus on mechanisms. Lots of fluffiness. Lots of civ reads and de-escalation and very little active accusations have come from him.

Who is bad Kyle?

Personally I would like to ultimately see quin lynched. I feel he is the most compelling lynch and given the volume he has posted if the only good reason anyone has to refute the bad stuff is that he would probably not post as much as a mafia player with bad internet well I disagree and that's an awful reason.

Jimmy. If you were a mafia player who had bad internet and were one of the few players looking lynchable would you post with less frequency than if you were town with bad internet? I feel entirely the opposite and having really thought about it I really question the nature of the analysis from you. Bad look.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:07 am Is there more to be said about why Long Con is the most compelling suspect?

I don't agree with it. He hasn't done near enough to be the most compelling suspect. He is null on my radar.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:33 am mafia-fatigue is also not an exclusive emotion for any particular faction, but I do believe LC that it is at least in part to blame for his apparent lack of zest for this game.

A very easy and non controversial comment here. Reads like a mafia player making a future credit civ read on a player they know isn't bad.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:52 am I've decided 3J is likely good because he looked into my off-topic content (I have an unreliable internet connection right now) to form a read on me. I don't believe scum would want to fabricate that.

i meant to submit this like an hour ago but i forgot and went out oops

Really? Jimmy and I have similar tendencies and reading into ot posts is something I love doing either way. I don't think that is a good reason for giving him a town read at all.

I am civ reading him but not without some reservations about some of his case making.

I really don't like the the way you phrased it either. It's non committal and also relatively unprovoked. The timing between him announcing he had a civ read on you and this post is just long enough for me to feel like it's an attempt to buddy to him without getting sprung as such.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:47 pm Mr Mac, please talk about Mr Jack

I have read the suspicion and don't agree with it and I think he has done a good job contributing while also defending. I basically just disagree that he is suspicious at all. I think Jimmy is dog with a bone on that case.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:32 pm Marmot

This one intrigues me.

Marmot's placement on my list is more an absence of a reason to town read him than a specific reason to scum read him. The same is true for Long Con.

Why not yellow then?

Because he has made more than one or two substantial posts in the thread. Yellow is for people who don't have enough content for a firm read.

Is it? I just use it for people I am null on. If that's your yellow what's your null?

Made wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:47 pm To whom it may concern,
The following are reads on Mac. Please use them for the advancement of the civilian cause.

1. this post, this post, this post and this post read like trying to start something without committing
2. this one bothers me because wilgy's talked about ratio to talked in game ratio is among the lowest in the game.
3. deflects to other players when providing reads without quoting, or highlights what he liked here.
4. this argument seems far less conclusive than arguments he's given on Nutella, Dave, and Wilgy, yet it's his

Healthy suspicion is healthy, but it seems as Mac's posts aren't focused on winning, but on hiding potential fault.
Mac, which players this game read civvie to you?
Jack is next, thank you for your patience.

Regards,
Made's secretary

Okay so you are suspicious of me for playing the way I play in every game. Okay. Point 4 is incomplete as well but I presume you were about to say my vote. Which is funny because I had made more comments than just that one.

If I am being short it's because I am playing on my phone and it's annoying to write long posts on a phone keyboard.

I just gave you my rainbow btw.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:32 pm Marmot

This one intrigues me.

Marmot's placement on my list is more an absence of a reason to town read him than a specific reason to scum read him. The same is true for Long Con.

Why not yellow then?

Glorfindel

JaggedJimmyJay
Sloonei
Jackofhearts
LongCon


novaselinenever
lapluie
Kylemii
Made
TonyStarkPrime
speedchuck
Elohcin
Dom
Gumshoe
birdwithteeth
Simon
Marmot
nutella
sig

Dave
DrWilgy
Quin


Mine.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:22 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:13 pm I'd echo Mac but the explanation of his scum Sloonei read went in one eye and out the other so I'm not sure I even care.

@Sloonei your thoughts on it?

Jimmy's Nutella case is interesting to me because it's basically the same as my case on her early on in Mountains and my conclusion was wrong. Also, I don't see what he sees anyway. Opposite contrast with opposite conclusions.

Kinda feel like I'm dead ended on Jimmy atm anyway. Made looks worse but I'll let him talk before I decide where to move.

I don't know what "it" is here.

I really should have clarified after several linkis.

What do you think of Made's case on you?

He reads as authentic to me. He's not latching onto any traditional or easy arguments that I could see being made against me, which suggests to me these are genuine thoughts of his.

Lucky you. He hasn't even bothered to explain his read on me.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:20 pm Gone back to original baddie quin. Haven't seen a quin post that looks civvie yet.

how about this one

On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is mafia and 10 is civ that post is a 3.

Gone back to original baddie quin. Haven't seen a quin post that looks civvie yet.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:19 pm I'm fairly occupied today (and will be tomorrow as well) so I'm keeping up with the thread but not putting a lot of time into analysis or anything. I feel better about Quin every time he posts so I don't think I'll be voting there. I haven't gotten the most stellar vibes from LC, speedchuck, or Tony, so I might go with one of those, though the votes are already pretty spread out. Looking at the player list I get the feeling we've only been talking about a subset of players, mostly those who have had more presence in the thread, and naturally most of the higher posters look more townie... idk, day 1 always feels like this and I wish I had more confident thoughts on anyone but I really don't. If I have more time later tonight I might try a rainbow but it'll be mostly yellow.

This one fyi.

I just read her iso thought and high level she reads distracted town so I will look for someone else.

Oh nutella is a female sorry I forgot it's been ages.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:05 pm Made please quote the posts you have made that even remotely explain your scum read on me.

three questions first:
1. Thoughts on Nutella
2. Why did you vote Dave
3. Why are you now voting Nutella

Nutella pinged me with a recent post. Jimmy is voting for him and I don't feel strongly about anyone else. I voted Dave because he pinged me and I was hoping my voting him would provoke him into showing something.

Why did you follow my vote to Dave and then my vote to nutella? And why do you have me bottom of your reads and why have you not explained yourself.

Made please quote the posts you have made that even remotely explain your scum read on me.

Dave's bad. Discuss.

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:53 am Nobody is talking about Wilgy.

Vote 1 Quin. But yeah wilgy. That guy is bothersome.

How come?

He said I was bad and I'm not.

Nobody is talking about Wilgy.

Vote 1 Quin. But yeah wilgy. That guy is bothersome.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:17 pm Jay is still my #1 town read.

Interesting. I was going to actually ask you for your opinion but you have given it anyway.

Why?

Well ... after that catch up I find myself relatively concerned by Jimmy. I feel Jack is playing very sincerely and am not buying that Jimmy genuinely feels that Jack is bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:15 am I have a really juicy hot take right now and I bet you folks are just dying to hear it.

Go on.

Also this.

That was fake, there was no hot take, you were teased for an entire day.

-1

Jimmy you made promises to me...

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:02 pm oh hey guys

most of the people who have posted so far look civ so far, but then most of them are the people who always look civ to me. Sloonei's alternate interpretation of Quin is interesting though and Quin is someone I'm always waffly on.

Made is zany as usual. Not sure what he's on about but I think he's just being Made.

Out of the so-far-civ-reads I think my strongest 3 are Sloonei, Kyle, and Jack. They're safe from my D1 vote at this point unless something changes.

oh and welcome new people! I'm getting tired of reading posts from the same 6-7 people so let's see some thoughts k

Interesting that you hen picked who to make reads on/comment on after starting the post like you were about to skim read everybody.

Not sure what you mean by this? I read the whole thread before writing this post. This was just a summary of my thoughts on people as I was reading. What did I say that made you think I was "about to skim read everybody"?

The start of your post made me feel like you were going to comment on everybody but then you just commented on a few. Seemed to restrain yourself.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:50 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:20 pm Hey dudes... I read page 1 and page 9. Did I miss anything important?

Not really.

Generally, do you think Made puking out unsubstantiated reads early on is alignment indicative?

You didn't find any of the reads being made between page 2 and 8 useful? What's your win con?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:20 pm Hey dudes... I read page 1 and page 9. Did I miss anything important?

Yeah I actually think this has been a fairly productive and interesting first 9 pages. I'd read them if I were you.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 pmTo what end?

establishing greater-scope context

You selected that list of players because you are familiar with all the other players?

yes. I chose you and the other 6 because I've never played with you before. I'd like to know your mafia background and some basic facts that might explain your behavior in general.

for an example of why this is important.... I'd expect a player who's never played with Dr. Wilgy to find different behaviors of his suspicious than a player who's never met him.

Alternately if a player I assumed didn't know anyone here suddenly had a strong read on another player it would be important to know that those two players both came from the same discussion forum and have played multiple games together.

So you've played with everybody else?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm could you each briefly summarize your past mafia playing history? How long have you been playing for? What site are you from? Have you played on the syndicate before? If no, are there any players in this game you have prior experience playing with?

I have been playing since 2011. I've played primarily on RYM but also a bit of Mafiascum and Somethingawful.com and over the last couple of years exclusively here. Haven't played since May.

birdwithteeth11 - Played a few games here, have very little recollection of meta.
Dave - Never played with.
Dom - Played several games here with Dom and have had significant interactions with him.
DrWilgy - Played several games here with Wilgy and have had significant interactions with him.
Elohcin - Played several games here with Elo and have had a bit of interaction.
Glorfindel - Played a few here with Glorf and have had a bit of interaction.
Gumshoe - I may have played one game with Gumshoe but relatively unfamiliar.
Jackofhearts2005 - Played a few games together with not much significant meta.
JaggedJimmyJay - Have played dozens of games with Jimmy as we were both from RYMafia. I taught him everything he knows.
Kylemii - Limited exposure.
lapluie - Might have played a game but not sure.
Long Con - Played quite a bit with Long Con. I think Long Con has a stronger feel for me than I do for him though.
Made - Played a little bit with Made but not a lot of meta to go by.
Marmot - Played heaps with Marmot and have had several significant interactions.
novaselinenever - Never played with.
nutella - Played quite a few games with nutella.
Quin - Played a shitload with Quin.
sig - Played heaps with sig.
Simon - Relatively unfamiliar with Simon but have played a couple games.
Sloonei - Sloonei is RYMFam from way back. We called him Darth Sloonei.
speedchuck - One or two games together.
TonyStarkPrime - Very limited exposure.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.

Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?

Considering that speed to comment on direct accusations is an issue for you I would ask why you completely ignored this post...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:44 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.

Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?

Wow you're really going to tunnel him straight out the gate aren't you... uninterested in genuinely finding bad guys and instead more interested in just getting Sloonei lynched? The question is whether you were genuinely pinged by him and now just want to feel great about your bad guy hunting skill or whether you are just fake hunting as a scum guy. Could be possible hard distancing as scum teammates... I would totally expect that of you two so that's gotta be on the table.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:15 am I have a really juicy hot take right now and I bet you folks are just dying to hear it.

Go on.

Also this.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 pmTo what end?

establishing greater-scope context

You selected that list of players because you are familiar with all the other players?

Is this post cap thing new?