The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 12:09 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:42 pm I’m not sure I’m gonna stay on Dragomir until EoD but like, alright I guess
My problem with Dragomir is the insistence that DDL (or anybody) is bad.

To me DDL is a civilian.
how

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 pm Please let's lynch DDL. There's not a speck of townie on him.

-Opportunistic jump on speedchuchk's bait and according from others, chuck is renowned as someone who hates no lynching so I'm not understanding how he doesn't see it as a joke.

-His post explaining why there could be a reason for wanting to no lynch is illogical in itself and a big contradiction to his previous actions. Not to note, he completely ignored it and is trying something now against Novas.

-His retreat after being confronted for his vote on Chuck was just bad. It just reeked of trying to appear better after realizing how bad they looked for what they did. This kinda self-awareness is very much from a scum POV and him admitting to it ain't really that much either as something so obvious, you're better off admitting then trying to find excuses.

-Now he's making a rather weak case against Novas, coming to this conclusion from Mac calling him out. Seems like the dude was trying to make a meta read that didn't work. Mans trying to get some town cred after doing much of nothing else huh? It ain't working fam.
These are all reasons I view DDL as a good little boy.

The strength of your civilian read lies in observing the same things that Dragomir finds scummy, as not scummy?

I don't believe that you could formulate a strong civilian read on DDL based on just this. Do you have more?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:42 pm I’m not sure I’m gonna stay on Dragomir until EoD but like, alright I guess
My problem with Dragomir is the insistence that DDL (or anybody) is bad.

To me DDL is a civilian.

how

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:02 pm Consider this too:

Killing JJJ Night 1 in this particular setup is a rookie mistake.

If there is a civilian watcher, a civilian tracker, and a civilian jailer, and you know this, then taking a shot at the most active person who just nailed Ultra is not very wise. I would have advised against such a thing myself.

So that directs me to consider who is not wise or not paying attention to the setup.

At the time that Epi posted this DDL was equal vote leader. DDL is not a "rookie". I think this post is a very clever way of deconstructive the DDL suspicion before it takes off.

You can see how it's bullshit because he is now, even though he made this post, pushing a speedchuck wagon. Speedchuck is a very regular player on these forums. So if he genuinely believed what he wrote here, why is he pushing suspicion against speedchuck?

Epi is bad. Kill it with fire.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.

For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.

For 2, it's wifom.

For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.

"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.

I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine
Mac baby what is you doing?
What?
The connection to DDL's wagon. How does Epi wifom-ing that he wouldn't kill Jay on N1 throw us off DDL? Also doing it when the hottest wagon is Soneji.

He also made the point that people familiar with Jay wouldn't take a shot at him n1 in this context while DDL was leading the votes. The reason I realised the intention is because it worked on me initially and got me to move my vote from DDL to Soneji. But fuck being manipulated.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 pm I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.

For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.

For 2, it's wifom.

For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.

"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.

I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine
Mac baby what is you doing?

What?

I don't like Epi's recent argument at all.

For 1, it's completely irrelevant if Jay is Mafia.

For 2, it's wifom.

For 3, Epi wasn't even getting votes so I have no idea why he felt the need to townsignal himself. "Look at me I am a townie" is what Mafia do. Mafia care about looking like civilians way more than civs do.

"Oh I wouldn't do that as Mafia because I don't do that as Mafia." is the dumbest shit ever.

I think Epi made all that shit up to throw off the DDL wagon.

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine. Sorry i can't post more I am at work.

Lynch DDL

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:20 pm Mac, where are you at with townreads atm? Want to talk about someone other than Epig?

I feel good about Speedchuck, Jack and Nova. I feel okay about Jay, Dragomir and you. Wouldn't be sad to see anyone else go.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:27 pm Mac voted me Day 1. He's voting DDL now. He's spending his attention interacting with me instead of interacting with DDL.

Interaction requires two sides. You are here replying to me. DDL is not. Fuck off with this bullshit Epi.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:36 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?
Doing fine. How's about you? What's your story?
I'm the rep from The Millennium Forums shamelessly using your mafia board as a stepping stone on my way to become the ultimate cambodian basket weaving forum mafia player. I know MP7 and a couple of other people here I'm forgetting atm
This is a horseshit exchange.

There are 100 new people on this site, and Ultra was the only one to whom Mac said, "What's your story?"

Look at every other exchange Mac had.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.
He didn't interact with any of these new people...except Ultra.

He's mafia.

Show me where the rest of them asked how everyone was doing?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:38 pm Epi told me in the other games scum chat (he is hosting) that he wants to be in a team that acts as one and defends each other.

Epi defended DDL, laid off ultra. He's all of a sudden producing civ clears. This is exactly how he said he wanted to play as Mafia.
Mac is either a bad man or a buffoon.

I defend DDL because he's a civilian. I believe that.

I "laid off ultra?" Where did I do that?

I'm clearing civilians because that is the easiest thing I can do in a climate in which I don't hardly know anybody here.

What is wired incorrectly that you think it's appropriate to call people buffoons in a game where information is obfuscated?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:38 pm Epi told me in the other games scum chat (he is hosting) that he wants to be in a team that acts as one and defends each other.

Epi defended DDL, laid off ultra. He's all of a sudden producing civ clears. This is exactly how he said he wanted to play as Mafia.
Mac is either a bad man or a buffoon.

I defend DDL because he's a civilian. I believe that.

I "laid off ultra?" Where did I do that?

I'm clearing civilians because that is the easiest thing I can do in a climate in which I don't hardly know anybody here.

Jay interactively analysed you and Ultra and you made zero engagement with one another.

Epi told me in the other games scum chat (he is hosting) that he wants to be in a team that acts as one and defends each other.

Epi defended DDL, laid off ultra. He's all of a sudden producing civ clears. This is exactly how he said he wanted to play as Mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:32 pm (Psst- you skipped your line. That's my line!)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:30 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm

Why?
You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.
So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.
You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.
And what do I do when I am mafia?
Set up wifom defences like you're trying to do.
Tell everyone how good you are at catching mafia Epignosis.

Go ahead.

It's fun to listen to.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.
I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.
Why?
You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.
So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.
You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.
And what do I do when I am mafia?

Set up wifom defences like you're trying to do.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.
I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.
Why?
You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.
So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.

You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.
I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.
Why?

You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.
Kindly fuck off.
I don't do it any other way.

Must be pretty suck to be in the Mafia BTSC right now huh.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:38 pm Please let's lynch DDL. There's not a speck of townie on him.

-Opportunistic jump on speedchuchk's bait and according from others, chuck is renowned as someone who hates no lynching so I'm not understanding how he doesn't see it as a joke.

-His post explaining why there could be a reason for wanting to no lynch is illogical in itself and a big contradiction to his previous actions. Not to note, he completely ignored it and is trying something now against Novas.

-His retreat after being confronted for his vote on Chuck was just bad. It just reeked of trying to appear better after realizing how bad they looked for what they did. This kinda self-awareness is very much from a scum POV and him admitting to it ain't really that much either as something so obvious, you're better off admitting then trying to find excuses.

-Now he's making a rather weak case against Novas, coming to this conclusion from Mac calling him out. Seems like the dude was trying to make a meta read that didn't work. Mans trying to get some town cred after doing much of nothing else huh? It ain't working fam.

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] you were quite passionate about this yesterday. What has Owner done to push above your DDL suspicion?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.

Kindly fuck off.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:09 pm
Spoiler: show
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:04 pm You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.
We got one.
Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?
With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad
Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm
Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.
The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??
I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.
So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?
What do you think, Dragomir?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine
This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.
This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:02 pm
I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.
This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.
You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.
Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.
So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?
Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.
Or someone roleblocked the killer.
I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

Every time I relook at the role list these kinda theories seem more and more plausible.

Why does DDL start to form a towncore around Nova then? What does he gain by saving someone he just tried to kill? DDL couldnt have predicted Nova coming in and voting JJJ off the bat like that.

Why does Nova's vote on JJJ need to be a thing to justify his behaviour towards Nova?

Stage 1 - Fail to mislynch Nova
Stage 2 - Lose a scum teammate who had been hard defending you that simultaneously makes Nova look amaze
Stage 3 - Shoot at Nova and fail
Stage 4 - ... continue to try to attack Nova?

He feels like he has no choice but to flip his position on Nova. But then when he sees Jay getting incorrectly town cleared... that signals disaster.

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] yesterday you were desperate for DDL to get lynched. What has changed?

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:05 pm Hey JJJ wants the point of all the analysis if you’re just gonna be like “they could be teammates but they could also NOT be teammates”

Welcome to the wonderful world of Jay.

You can see below Ultra just subtly pushing Jay off of DDL while at the same time buttering him up. Why did Ultra feel the need to make the first post? The second seems to be hard defending of DDL while accusing Jay of the very same. It's quite masterful.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.
We got one.
Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?
With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad
Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:35 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:58 pm
rundontwalk2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:54 pm One thing that concerns me about JJJ's town read of me: he knows I play exactly the same way regardless of alignment
Why concern then
Cuz he has nothing to base his read on.
The way you talked before made it sound like you’d done something??? Does that mean no matter your alignment you dont post well??
I mean, regardless of alignment I shit post. That is my modus operandi. Such that JJJ can't possibly have a town read on me yet, given I would do this regardless of what I am.
So are you trying to say that he's pocketing you?
What do you think, Dragomir?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine
This reeks of chainsaw defense.

More examples.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:29 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

This one is good because it also contains some dribble placeholder text about NF that adds nothing which is similar to something Jay literally caught me for in the other game. Overexplaining.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:17 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:16 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:02 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.
This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.
I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.
This isn't fucking jeopardy. You are supposed to provide something other than questions and answers.
You know in the other game when I was trying to find evidence to make a fake case on Nova I read his ISO and noticed he asked a ton of questions.
Nice.

I don't care about what you tried to do as scum.
So you are going to disregard the fact that I made an observation that Nova asks lots of questions in a game he was confirmed town in?

Above you can see DDL went hard at Nova yesterday. I think he ended with his vote there.

Ultra then gets lynched making Nova nigh unlynchable. What would you do if you were DDL and you were Mafia?

Then what would you do if a townie came out and you see them mistakenly townclear Jay of all people.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:14 pm I saved JJJ last night.
Or someone roleblocked the killer.

I think that DDL and co. shot at Nova and I think DDL made this post to prevent a towncore forming around Jay.

DDL is scum. Incoming wall of destruction.

Sorry Jay I am going to do my own analysis. I don't have the mental capacity to absorb yours.

Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:35 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:55 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:53 pm I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now.
That's a load of BS.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine
I do not like this vote
Why is Dragomir town?

I am still catching up but of everyone post dawn I have found myself nodding along to Dragomir's posts the most so far.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:24 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:20 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:11 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I don't believe your progression on Ultra.
What's unbelievable about his progression on ultra?
Had him green after their early spat, reiterated by saying he liked his (Ultra) "assertive" tone. Never hit back at the bogus suspicions which had me unsettled, and he only started viewing him bad when I prodded him about further. He stated the lack of progression of Ultra's read even though, Ultra hadn't posted in between "I like his assertive tone" and my prodding of Jay I believe.
I'm a sucker for a new guy who wants to get in my fucking face from the start.

As it happened though, that was the only thing he seemed to care about in his posts. He picked me as punching bag based on that "chainsaw defense" thing and did not move from it. I made note of that here -- as a day progresses, the value wanes and it just becomes nothing. It ended up being about the only thing the guy did in this game. As EOD approached (and my own requirement to decide a vote approached even sooner), I was confronted with wagons on Ultra, nova, and Owner and decided he was my preference among them.

Hooray.
I don't see any interactive analysis. Civ Jay would have had those made during the night, and ready to publish at first light

You must be bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:05 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:26 pm First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.
This whole post bugs me, particularly the highlighted bit. Did you try to kill me instead of nova to avoid this result?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:55 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:53 pm I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now.
That's a load of BS.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

I do not like this vote

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:46 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:41 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:37 pm I caught up this morning and found myself having to realign my reads.

Nova looks super solid in light of the ultra lynch.

Epi looks a little fishy for trying to piggyback on my nova case.

Still don't like Owner.

Not getting a good vibe from Soneji. Him having a low post count is normal, but he normally comes at the end with a bunch of attacks against players and is sure of thing. Here he feels more... basic.

Mac is giving me a civ vibe. Compared to the other game where he was very tame, here he's pissed off. I like pissed off Mac.

RDW needs to come down to the playground.

Neutral on the rest.
Why is Nova super solid? I’ve played two days of another game and read most of Nutella’s champs D1 since this thread closed.
It's not like I changed my mind about the questions thing being fishy, but vote analysis > how many questions the guy is asking.

Nova was the name of the Ultra wagon. He pushed it more than everyone else. I bet he's the one mafia tried to kill tonight.
The wagon was the towncore (Speed/Jack/Lux), Jay (who Ultra was after and who was probably the nk), and Nova.

You think there were no wolves on Nova’s wagon?

This post makes me feel violent thoughts towards Jack

I am just calling it how I see it. I don't see anything but the same Nova. I read his ISO and saw the same style as I saw when I did the same thing in the other game. Shoot me if I am wrong idc.

If I thought the post was suspicious in and of itself i would have said so when I first saw it. I saw it and thought nothing much more of it aside from "dude is taking my shit post seriously".

Next minute Epi "oh I like how he took Mac's shit post seriously, such town"... Jay "yes very town". Mac:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:15 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:14 am Okay Trump

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:12 amDo you think the post is suspicious or not?

I do not have to think it is suspicious to think that it's suspicious that Epignosis and yourself give in town points.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:09 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:05 am What kind of BS doublespeak is this? I never said it "must" be. I pointed out that what Owner did has clear and obvious scum motivation and should not be given any kind of civ clearance. It's one thing for Epi to do it, but for you to see that post and agree with it rather than seeing what I see is major .
Yeah I don't care about your flailing hands emoji. Just about any post in the universe "can" have a scum motivation. Who gives a shit? The point of this game is to make judgments.
So it's okay for Epi and you to point at an asinine post and give in townie points but when I point out the scum motivation in the very same post "who gives a shit".

It almost feels like you are intentionally refusing to see my point for some reason Jimbob.
You're not giving me a judgment. You're telling me about what a post "can" be. I don't care about that. Any post can be anything. Do you think the post is suspicious or not?

Okay Trump

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:09 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:05 am What kind of BS doublespeak is this? I never said it "must" be. I pointed out that what Owner did has clear and obvious scum motivation and should not be given any kind of civ clearance. It's one thing for Epi to do it, but for you to see that post and agree with it rather than seeing what I see is major .
Yeah I don't care about your flailing hands emoji. Just about any post in the universe "can" have a scum motivation. Who gives a shit? The point of this game is to make judgments.

So it's okay for Epi and you to point at an asinine post and give in townie points but when I point out the scum motivation in the very same post "who gives a shit".

It almost feels like you are intentionally refusing to see my point for some reason Jimbob.

I am on Team Gemma. Let's lynch Epi. Give him the day one boot.

"Owner saw a mac shit post and is making a big deal out of it, what a fucken townie."

- Literally you guys.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:01 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:56 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:54 am What the fuck? How far do you have to reach to give Owner town points for such an asinine post? Jfc.
Do you gripe with Epi's rationale?
Yes it's insincere as fuck and you agreeing with it is also dumb. "Oh Owner looks town because he saw a soft mac post and made a big deal out of it".

That's called false scum hunting. it's what Mafia players do. Because they have to fake it. So they hone in on hollow nothingness just like that.
Isolating unique civilian indicators that other people wouldn't mention/notice/care about is something I expect from modern era Epignosis. I don't think the notion is absurd, or at least not any more absurd than the notion that it must instead be a mafia indicator.

What kind of BS doublespeak is this? I never said it "must" be. I pointed out that what Owner did has clear and obvious scum motivation and should not be given any kind of civ clearance. It's one thing for Epi to do it, but for you to see that post and agree with it rather than seeing what I see is major

.

Owner, Epi and DDL voting Nova together makes me sick.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:56 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:54 am What the fuck? How far do you have to reach to give Owner town points for such an asinine post? Jfc.
Do you gripe with Epi's rationale?

Yes it's insincere as fuck and you agreeing with it is also dumb. "Oh Owner looks town because he saw a soft mac post and made a big deal out of it".

That's called false scum hunting. it's what Mafia players do. Because they have to fake it. So they hone in on hollow nothingness just like that.

What the fuck? How far do you have to reach to give Owner town points for such an asinine post? Jfc.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:33 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:02 pm Jay why are you ignoring my existence? I have two votes and you have said diddly squat to me? Do you fear me?

I've been devoting my attention primarily to the newer people. What do you think of those votes on you? I checked your own post history up to the point of this gripe you've directed upon me.

nova: you seem to be his best friend. He voted for you quite a while ago, and your responses were " " and "why r u voting me bb".

RDW: you called him a traitor. The end.

I don't see much indication that you've said diddly squat to the two voters about whom you are implying I should care enough to myself say diddly squat.

I think the votes on me are a) Nova prodding me and b) RDW being a biatch.

I haven't said diddly squat to either of them because I have engaged them since they voted and neither have replied yet.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:23 pm Let me say it in other words.

Nova asking questions is not a reason to scum read him. It is also an argument that I was tempted to make when I was scum because I had nothing better to say.

Weak case making dressed in the guise of good case making.

DDL is bad. Back to DDL.
Do you give the slightest sliver of a shit that nova is voting for you?

Until he explains himself I am just going to assume that it was a "do something" prod.

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:53 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:02 pm I have never seen Epi treat anyone the way he is treating Luxurious. It's almost like he ... likes you?
Is that a good or a bad thing
I would say it's a good thing for you because if he is town I trust his judgement more than most and if he is Mafia I don't think he'd be as blatant at drawing connections between you two.

That being said I did have a conversation with him recently in which he claimed that he prefers to be on Mafia teams that work in union.
so you do have powerwolfing here

Sounds like you mean supertown

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