The Syndicate

Nah this is dumb

Wilgy you menace. Unhand the innocent child.

Donezo

I don't know what you're doing but I'm tantalised. I won't be around at EoD most likely though.

Done. How long til EOD?

Fucking linki city. What do you want me to do?

Ok i changed to you

I moved my vote to Marmot. Is that ok.

I will vote for Nova. I don't want to be the only one wrong if he is bad lol.

And yet you are voting for him.

I'm voting for the Marmot. Nova is cuter.

Bizarre kill. Nutella is someone who was relatively lynchable if this game lasts another couple of day phases. Jimmy just turned his attention towards her. You've got Sloonei, Epi, Jimmy all looking nigh unlynchable... tinfoil aplenty.

Rip nut. Strange choice.

JFC that Mortal Kombat game is doing my head in

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:01 pm Seriously though Mac, I think we're in a pretty similar place with regard to the POE pool. The order might not be identical, but whatever.

Yes failing a brilliant game by a random who has somehow earned buckets of civ cred ... I REEEALLLY hope we haven't got a situation where one of the main players has hard bussed their teammates and looked clean as a whistle in the process but can't rule it out.

Jimmy can you make one of my points darker green please. Thanks.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:06 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:55 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:54 pm Can we just lynch Nova next day and hope for the best?
He's my top pick right now and it isn't especially close.
Mine too, it's just that it feels too easy. But hey, maybe it is

@linki: I don't think it's Wilgy. I think he was a different quiet and lazy when he was bad last time I played with him. He actually apologized for being away and not contributing. Now it's like he doesn't give a damn
Wilgy is the meta master. He tries different things every time he is mafia. You cannot use meta well on him. The best way to case him is to try to civ read him for his civilian efforts. If they are lacking then there is often a Mafia shirt under his button down.

If you put votes on town Wilgy he usually white flags. Mafia Wilgy usually pours gasoline everywhere and sets fire to the place.
Or so.etimes I do the same things in a row as a certain alignment to set expectations for the sweeeeeeet victory it earns me after 6 losses.

You sure do

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:20 pm Long Con and novaselinenever

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Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:00 am The chance involves the night. Your generosity has to extend to lynching me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.

I'm voting NVN right now, because I don't believe a word she's saying. He? She?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:03 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:01 am I would also be willing to change my vote if you can change my mind/bring up a better alternative
NVN is the alternative that I'm most sure of. Maybe I'm not understanding their posts today, but I guarantee NVN has no info on me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:23 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:18 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.
What do you think of NVN if you make the following assumption:

He did not intend to actually claim information and instead worded his suspicion of you awkwardly because he isn't familiar with Syndicate jargon?
I would think he is trying to make shit up to push my easy lynch because that's how he thinks it goes? It was just vague enough.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:27 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am I don't even know the issue here. We're not in lylo or mylo or whatever. Lynch me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.
This is the most bored plea I've ever seen.
Despair can look like boredom. It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to give me the benefit of the doubt just once. I'm sorry that I haven't been able to always be so participatory in this game.

Maybe just forget the proving thing. It's kind of sketchy at this point anyway, I haven't actually confirmed with the host that it's cool. Get me out of the way, and you'll probably be looking at NVN tomorrow, and we can still win.

There was no mention until LC's lynch was nigh, and he threw a bunch of mud at NVN over the perceived "info" thing. I don't care about any of this.

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novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:11 pm we're also going to have to figure out what to do with NVN sooner or later. He seems to be stretched pretty thin mafia-wise, and it doesn't appear that he's going to dump a load of content on us any time soon. His spot seems doomed to sit around in single-digit posts for this game. As the POE pool continues to shrink, his spot does not budge.
The only info I would have is that I think you guys are right about LC, but wrong about him. He reads Mafia and I don't see any case being made of him as Town

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:55 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:11 pm we're also going to have to figure out what to do with NVN sooner or later. He seems to be stretched pretty thin mafia-wise, and it doesn't appear that he's going to dump a load of content on us any time soon. His spot seems doomed to sit around in single-digit posts for this game. As the POE pool continues to shrink, his spot does not budge.
The only info I would have is that I think you guys are right about LC, but wrong about him. He reads Mafia and I don't see any case being made of him as Town
Eh?
lol wrong about me. I've my names in red/yellow in several rainbows
What is it about LC that you think looks like mafia?
His excuses of trying to catch up and then casting a vote to save himself at the end of the day. He made some post and was around for a bit before casting that vote. He also didn't question him or voice anything against him. It seems like he was just trying to throw excuses for his change of vote.
I also didn't get his whole 'didn't have a chance to investigate Lorab or others'. He's also been asking a lot of simple, which seems weird.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:11 pm Do you have any other reads to share, novaselinenever? I'd even be happy if you could just go through the list of remaining players and give a simple "Good" or "Bad" read for each of them. Of course, any more detailed reads you might be able to shade would be superb as well.

Daisy Good
Dizzy Good
Epi Good
FZ Good
JJJ Good
Kyle Good
LC Mafia
Mac 2nd Mafia/3rd Party
Marmot 2nd Mafia/3rd Party
NVN Great
Nutella Good
Sloonei Good
Wilgy Good

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:39 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:34 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 am JaggedJimmyJay You've been flip flopping a lot between me and LC
Is that right? What do you think about that?
A Townie having doubts and not too sure who to vote.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:47 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.
I'll await verification on the LC flip. If it goes according to plan, I'd lynch zero people before NVN.
If he flips scums, how does that make me scum ? Weren't I going after him until I figured something else ?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 am Look at who is not on Long Con wagon. Nova and Marmot.

I feel like it would be a bit dumb to not be on his wagon.
I was on his wagon very early on and gave my reads on him. I wanted to go after Marmot, they were enough people going after LC already

This guy has no opinion on anything in the entire game until LC is in trouble for the majority of a day phase, and he hops right on with the attack with a tone of confidence despite his read being entirely vague. Then, when I moved my vote to Marmot to make the tally 4-2 LC-Marmot, he followed me right over and made it 4-3. None of this makes any sense; I don't buy it. I think it's more likely that in BTSC LC sensed his own danger and recommended to NVN that he come by and eviscerate him. He tried, and fumbled that vote as awkwardly as any vote can be fumbled, and at no point explained himself adequately.

If you are right, this is the worst scum performance I have ever seen bar none. Sorry scummers but I calls it as I sees it.

FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:06 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:55 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:54 pm Can we just lynch Nova next day and hope for the best?
He's my top pick right now and it isn't especially close.
Mine too, it's just that it feels too easy. But hey, maybe it is

@linki: I don't think it's Wilgy. I think he was a different quiet and lazy when he was bad last time I played with him. He actually apologized for being away and not contributing. Now it's like he doesn't give a damn
Wilgy is the meta master. He tries different things every time he is mafia. You cannot use meta well on him. The best way to case him is to try to civ read him for his civilian efforts. If they are lacking then there is often a Mafia shirt under his button down.

If you put votes on town Wilgy he usually white flags. Mafia Wilgy usually pours gasoline everywhere and sets fire to the place.
You just gave him instructions for what to do in case we vote for him.
Anyway, I just don't see myself voting for him. My gut is telling me he's good

Maybe so but he already declared intent to do that anyway. Besides he is tangled up in a meta acting nightmare for the rest of time. I wouldn't ever really purport to read him either way. He is enigmatic. He should just be left alone for a few days and lynched in the mid game every time.

I would be lynching these players in order now.

Marmot
Nova
Wilgy
Daisy

After that I would hope to have more insight to reconstruct the list.

FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:55 pm
FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:54 pm Can we just lynch Nova next day and hope for the best?
He's my top pick right now and it isn't especially close.
Mine too, it's just that it feels too easy. But hey, maybe it is

@linki: I don't think it's Wilgy. I think he was a different quiet and lazy when he was bad last time I played with him. He actually apologized for being away and not contributing. Now it's like he doesn't give a damn

Wilgy is the meta master. He tries different things every time he is mafia. You cannot use meta well on him. The best way to case him is to try to civ read him for his civilian efforts. If they are lacking then there is often a Mafia shirt under his button down.

If you put votes on town Wilgy he usually white flags. Mafia Wilgy usually pours gasoline everywhere and sets fire to the place.

What would he do if his teammate was hidden and looking civ credible? Distance, attack or ignore? I would ignore because people would look for clues. Probably just a few light prods.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:50 pm That could be, Mac, but you might deserve to be lynched anyway for quoting that entire post.
I ain't clipping on my phone matus.
Fine.

What do you think of the notion that LC knew both you and Marmot were civilians and was trying to set you up to look like an arse when easy-to-lynch Marmot flips civilian?

I didn't feel like LC was very involved in most of the interactions I had with Marmot. If we lynch him and he civ flips I will look like an arse all on my own power.

Counterpoint what would you expect him to do if he found himself in a situation where both he and his only living scum partner were looking like toast? Distance, defend, bus? I think if that's the case he was damned if he does and damned if he doesn't so he would probably just defend and hope someone argues that it would be too obvious.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:50 pm That could be, Mac, but you might deserve to be lynched anyway for quoting that entire post.

I ain't clipping on my phone matus.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:27 pm Long Con and MacDougall

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Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:29 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:26 pm I apologize for having emotions earlier, I will avoid that in the future.
Cool, I'm not there yet. Is it going to be awesome?

Also, at the point I'm at, Mac and nutella are sparring about the copied rainbow list. So far, I have felt like it makes them both look more bad, so I guess it's worth a reread tomorrow.

Casual, off-hand suspicion tossed in Mac's direction alongside nutella over his copy/paste of speedchuck's rainbow.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:30 pm So is it genuinely in Epignosis's MO as Mafia to go after Jimmy on day 1 and put himself at risk like this?

He is now leading the votes. I don't like it. It looks like a potential mislynch to me. I am getting nam flashbacks to MK.
This post is ugly to me. In a Mac is bad and knows Epi is good, kind of way.

LC made a couple of TMI-type accusations in this game, first this one at Mac and later in the large case against speedchuck. The latter was civilian, so take that however you may.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:03 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pmThat's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.
"wow, i can't believe you actually really believed i was telling the truth while i was obviously being purposefully deceptive for a weird joke"
I didn't post the rainbow list to make a joke. I posted the rainbow list to determine the level to which people were paying attention to see if I could analyse any level of collusion.
Has there been any analysis by Mac on collusion levels?
No because I didn't find any.
Looks like you just posted the rainbow list to be a shit-disturber, and made up this collusion test after to try and give it more validity.

Rainbow list copypasta gripes continued. LC pushed this point, though I don't know if he pursued it beyond talk.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:55 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:50 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:48 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:40 am A message from Avram:
LoRab and LC both seemed to want to push for Epignosis and didn't offer much criticism of each other.
That isn't accurate. I never wanted to push for Epignosis, I voted him for maybe two minutes when I thought it was the best chance to save my life. I had said nothing about Lorab because she hadn't really gotten involved with the game that much, it wasn't some kind of teammate-avoidance strategy.
who should we lynch today?
Why shouldn't it be Macdougall?

Sloonei asked Long Con who to lynch and got this question as an answer. I don't struggle to see the antagonism as distancing so far.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:25 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:19 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:15 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:14 am Well, right now it looks like he's shoehorning Marmot into lynch position for dubious reasons.
Do you read Marmot as town?
GTH yes. I haven't been pinged by him. Lazy play, despite what Macdougall is saying, isn't much of a baddie tell for Marmot.
Can you tell me more about why Macdougall is scum? Is it based entirely on his recent treatment of the marmot?
Actually, it is based on the recent stuff. I'm having some trouble with the two concurrent games running, and getting mixed up between them. This is something that currently looks suspicious.

This might be a bit better for Mac. LC couldn't entirely qualify his suspicion of Mac when pressed by Sloonei, and he moaned a bit about the challenge of playing in two games at once. I'd expect a distancing LC to be more concrete in his expression of suspicion.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:56 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:53 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:36 am why is "push Marmot" a viable scum strategy for Macdougall entering Day 3?
Attacking Marmot for lazy play, as if Marmot tends to be an overly-vocal, super-analytical player. Possibly ironic, because THAT looks like lazy play on Macdougall's part, going after Marmot for his extremely usual play.
I'm not sure this answers my question, so I'll rephrase: why does it make sense for macdougall, as scum, to pick Marmot of all people as his lynch target for the day?
I guess if I were a better Mafia player, I could figure out that answer. Unless it specifically makes NO sense, then it's a strategy a person could go with. If Marmot is Civ and Mac is bad, then it makes sense to try and get a Civ lynched, while also looking like you're doing some new, fresh hunting. In this instance, though, the new, fresh hunting looks stale.

LC kept at it with regard to Mac's suspicion of Marmot, claiming it was too easy and based upon a premise ignorant of Marmot's normal behavior. I tend to think that most of this stuff says more about Marmot than it says about Mac. I can note though that if Marmot is a civilian, then LC is completely blaming Mac ahead of time for that. There was no good reason to defend Marmot for the very same reasons LC was critical of Mac's suspicion of Marmot, but he did it anyway -- that's TMI on Marmot and perhaps preemptive setup on Mac. I could see them being civilian-civilian in that light (or at least not mafia-not mafia). If one of them is mafia, I think Mac is more likely.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:15 pm I agree with your green reads Mac, save perhaps LC. I don't have much of a read there. What's your inspiration?
I could understand the rationality LC had with his posts that you seemed to disagree with. It's part of the reason I am suspicious of you.

At least some of Mac's early suspicion of me was driven by my handling of rationale provided by LC. Okay.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:09 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:05 am Looks like you just posted the rainbow list to be a shit-disturber, and made up this collusion test after to try and give it more validity.
Looks like that doesn't it.

Mac's response to LC's accusations re: the copypasta rainbow list were pretty disinterested. At least it doesn't look like your typical energized distancing effort. There's no drama.

Long Con is light green in the middle "gives some credence" group in this segmented rainbow. If nothing else I don't care for this method of presenting reads because it is pretty hard to tell what Mac actually thinks about these folks.

Mac is displeased with LC's turns on Kyle and Sloonei.

I think this is a decent catch, because there really wasn't sufficient justification for those turns and Mac should be credited for identifying this progression.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:02 am Found the most likely partnership so far. Kyle and Long Con. Speedchuck and Sloonei make no sense to be part of that team. The most likely partner to that team is nutella.

Kyle, Long Con & nutella?

I'm a bit bugged that the partnership Mac pushed for Long Con was the same one I consider highly unlikely -- Kylemii.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:09 am Long Con is a civilian and I am voting for speedchuck.
I don't think his post is anywhere near as good as you seem to do. It's precisely what I would expect scum Long Con to enter with on day 2 as a player who has attracted a little suspicion. Pick a player and make a wall post case for civ cred.

Furthermore... Im not sure civ Jay would be that easy to convince.

I was momentarily a doofus in response to LC's case against speedchuck case and Mac didn't agree. It's a somewhat decent look, though my tinfoil alerts are warning me that Mac was attempting to link me to his teammate.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:16 am Long Con does highlight some posts from speedchuck that are pingy. I felt at the time that he wasn't actually all that focused on the game but hand waved it somewhat as him coasting because he wasn't catching flak.

I would say his points have given me pause on speedchuck particularly given he was my number 1 gut civ read. When I analysed his interactions and found a good number of viable scum teammates I was quite surprised so now that there is some post analysis to his detriment I would be interested to see that lead explored more.

He didn't think LC's case against speedchuck was all crap though.

Long Con is dark green now in the segmented rainbow thing

???

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:18 pm To be honest Sloonei I started the analysis expecting better results. The outcome was rather underwhelming. Hence why I haven't done much with it.
Got any priority suspects right now other than Marmot?
I wouldn't call them priority but I am still orange at best on Long Con, nutella and Nova. I am alright with this LC lynch.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:18 pm To be honest Sloonei I started the analysis expecting better results. The outcome was rather underwhelming. Hence why I haven't done much with it.
Do you think marmot/lorab is a compelling pairing?
I wouldn't say compelling but they are compatible.

Not long after he's "orange at best". 'Kay.

~~~

Conclusion -- Clearly these two have interacted quite a lot in this game, and I think the results are a mixed bag. I noticed a few things that I liked, but I cannot claim they were strong points in Mac's favor. I also encountered things I didn't care for. I really don't know what was happening with that read at the end. He remains a tinfoil candidate.

I don't usually defend myself like this but fuck it I want to survive this game.

I think there is enough evidence to show I wasn't his teammate but tinfoil away scamp. I can't see anything pingy except my back and forth rainbow. I changed position on him because he's a good player and at times just sounded great tonally. Ultimately I voted for him twice. My vote was on him in a tie.

I'm a good enough scum player not to let my rainbow be that inconsistent on a teammate, particularly in a game in which I am clearly present and attentive.

If I am mafia in this game I would be meticulous because I have civ cred. I haven't been. My reads have shifted a ton. I have repeatedly forgotten whether I actually have a scum case on nutella or Kyle or if I am just conflating with MK. I haven't hidden my thoughts. I have at various times analysed every player I could. I am just trying in an honest manner.

All truths. Whether or not you choose to believe them. I am not mafia or 3p.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:47 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:42 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.
Who might that be ?
U
I don't think so but it could be.

I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.
I'd lynch a couple of people before kyle.
I'd be like

Kyle/Marmot/nutella/Nova

Pretty sure everyone else is a civ. Don't particularly care in what order those are lynched.
Did I miss you saying why you have nutella in here, Mac? She is one I would not vote today, considering Lorab's flip.

Nah I'm not even sure.

We should just all make lists of who we want to lynch in order then work out a consensus and vote together.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:04 am Let's find that last baddie. LC pushed Mac today. So did Marmot. I wouldn't be surprised if one of then is it. Probably Marmot.

LC's devious wifom is going to get me lynched before we win isn't it...

Look at who is not on Long Con wagon. Nova and Marmot.

I feel like it would be a bit dumb to not be on his wagon.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.
I'll await verification on the LC flip. If it goes according to plan, I'd lynch zero people before NVN.
So if he flips civ you think that's a good look for Nova?
I'm not sure anything would look "good" for him. A civilian flip at least removes some of the most apparent WTF value from his voting behavior today.

I don't follow your logic as it pertains to Nova but I'm not flustered by it either because it would take a ridiculous series of calamities to lose this game now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:42 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?
She's dead.
And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.
Who might that be ?
U
I don't think so but it could be.

I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.
I'd lynch a couple of people before kyle.

I'd be like

Kyle/Marmot/nutella/Nova

Pretty sure everyone else is a civ. Don't particularly care in what order those are lynched.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.
I'll await verification on the LC flip. If it goes according to plan, I'd lynch zero people before NVN.

So if he flips civ you think that's a good look for Nova?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:42 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?
She's dead.
And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.
Who might that be ?
U

I don't think so but it could be.

I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?
She's dead.
And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.
Who might that be ?

Kyle looks a good shout.

It's relatively annoying that the votes are in alphabetical order instead of chronological.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?
She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

He came back and found himself with 7 votes on him and 50 minutes so he tried a massive gambit because what does he have to lose if it makes him look worse?

LC now's the time for your wifom or legacy. You're not getting out of this one.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:29 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?
Do you think someone would be defending him if he's bad?
No. That's actually my point. There is no nay saying whatsoever. The Mafia would be defending him if he was a civ I think.
hmmm good point...

except that you're kind of ironically defending him with this point

You misread me. This is far from a defense.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?
Do you think someone would be defending him if he's bad?

No. That's actually my point. There is no nay saying whatsoever. The Mafia would be defending him if he was a civ I think.

Where's the Long Con defender?

Lol Con.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am Jimmy care to do a quick interaction analysis between Long Con and Marmot?
I'm going to take "quick" very literally. Now is not the time to go digging.

No I really do mean quick. Just ctrl f and skim read it.

Jimmy care to do a quick interaction analysis between Long Con and Marmot?

Wait Nova wants to lynch Marmot. I'm confused now. What is this defense even anyway?

So LC you are suggesting we lynch the person with the supposed fake info today.

I'd rather lynch you today and if you civ flip then we question said person? That way we don't lynch a useful civ player like idiots.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:55 pm LOL... hi everyone. Just got off work, and this is so overwhelming. Everyone came out to see me! Me!

I am not a baddie. I am Civ. I can prove it if you give me one chance.

You have a while. So go ham.

When in Rome

I honestly could and would vote for any of these three who have votes. I'm going to leave my vote on Marmot for now because I am happy to see any of them lynched and I'd like for him to remain a viable lynch.

Linki: Is the eyeroll because Marmot is good or because you think that post is very maphier?

FZ. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:21 pm Thanks jjj, so I was wrong. The fact that he voiced suspicion of Kyle means nothing

You are convinced Kyle is Mafia?

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