The Syndicate

im dead

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:44 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:37 pm the alternative is u can just find me as town

it's rly not hard
i find ellie more suspicious than you

i acknowledge though that i don't know you at all and any read i make is purely at face value
I mean yes at face value Esooa is aggro and posts lots and stuff and Ellie has only managed NINETY TWO POSTS on day 1 so yeah.
there's also me being town
Yeeeeeah maybe. Kill a mafia and we'll talk.
you're already scum reading me before any flips tho even though I'm gonna be town ~80% of the time

if the only thing u can read me off of is flips then maybe back tf off day 1 next time

You're veering into car crash territory. Chill out.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:37 pm the alternative is u can just find me as town

it's rly not hard
i find ellie more suspicious than you

i acknowledge though that i don't know you at all and any read i make is purely at face value
I mean yes at face value Esooa is aggro and posts lots and stuff and Ellie has only managed NINETY TWO POSTS on day 1 so yeah.
there's also me being town

Yeeeeeah maybe. Kill a mafia and we'll talk.

If I break up my worldbuilding I would have no choice but to add Made to my POE. If I am missing a piece it's Made mafia probably. But I just love him so much.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 pm i pledge to try. i won't sign up for a game and then fuck off when it counts. but i don't know if i have the energy within me to do what it will take to solve the game any time soon

maybe if i have help. it's probably too late in the day for a JayChart

If you have questions and I have answers I will give them to you so you don't have to #readposts that's my final offer

Here's the good thing tho:

Nutella, Mac, Jay, Nanook are town
Koba, Michelle, SPF, Tutuu are probably town
Day 1 is polarised as shit already so the chop will give us good info no matter what
And mafia have a narrow path forward already
So
I'm kinda not too fussed about the result here

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:37 pm the alternative is u can just find me as town

it's rly not hard
i find ellie more suspicious than you

i acknowledge though that i don't know you at all and any read i make is purely at face value

I mean yes at face value Esooa is aggro and posts lots and stuff and Ellie has only managed NINETY TWO POSTS on day 1 so yeah.

Sort by postcount.

Become mafia god.

MacDougall467
nutella303
Esooa292
tutuu259
Michelle220
JaggedJimmyJay214
staypositivefriend213
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME200
Long Con174
Made173
Alison167
DkKoba139
EllieDelight92
DaughterOfOmega54
Grogu42

How the fuck does the lowest poster have 42 posts.

This game 100% has mafia in the top posters sorry.

Jay can you plz go robot and figure it out for me and nutella you're not carrying your weight here lol

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:48 pm Alison's progression on Ellie went from lock town to slightly softened, to voting, with no in-between. No effort to engage her. No effort to make a case. Its almost townie cuz of how sloppy it would be for her. But we don't outthink ourselves with Alison.
Get out of your tunnel and step into my shoes for one minute. There are 3 people who are remotely possible to die today, and who I would find a palatable exe: Made, LC, Ellie (I guess Grogu is there, but I don't want a Grogu exe because it's a cop out and doesn't resolve any of the current controversies). I am jet lagged and juggling various IRL responsibilities. I wake up at 3PM, come online, and see that LC is acting in a way that 1) isn't congruent with his previous scum play and 2) lessens his partner equity with Esooa. I read it as townie overall, and switch to Ellie, who has been fairly quiet and is being deathtunnelled by Esooa (who I townread).

In this position, I'm not gonna bother writing a huge case wall on Ellie. I'm just going to vote her because she's the logical choice if I'm not feeling an LC exe and Made didn't have any traction. Context matters and just because I'm headstrong as town doesn't mean that any time I take a softer approach I'm automatically scum. I got mistunnelled for that shit in Hydra G5 and I expect you to know me better than that.
ok

Going by the first few words I can't actually read the rest can you proxy it to me in nice words plz.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:20 pm Ellie is literally outed imo that she comes in here with that read

THERE IS NO WAY ELLIE IS CAUGHT UP BTW

Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm

Actually no thats Jay town what's wrong with me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:18 pm If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.
Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.
I have not been disrespectful here Jay. Show me where I was.
i don't feel as though you've respected what i can do as a town player in this dialogue. i don't think you intend that, but it can be a byproduct of your response to "my case isn't getting traction"
Because I am scumreading you.
exactly. please ask yourself why and search your soul
Huh?

@nutella i rly didn't like his engagement with me here and he didn't answer me at the end

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:16 pm LC is mafia in a couple of combinations I've humoured that don't include Alison/Esooa.

He can also be town being TMI spewed by them.

As far as day 1s go I have high confidence that there is mafia in my POE of LC, Al, Esooa, Jay.
ye

prob not jay tho lol

Ehhhh. I wouldn't be so sure.

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:18 pm esooa is scum, she isnt tunneling nearly as hard as she normaly does in town games. like, it took her what, a day and a half to get on my ass? that's absolutely not how she plays normally and if any of you play with her regularly youll see that.

she's partnered with LC, that's obvious.

Get em

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:16 pm LC is mafia in a couple of combinations I've humoured that don't include Alison/Esooa.

He can also be town being TMI spewed by them.

As far as day 1s go I have high confidence that there is mafia in my POE of LC, Al, Esooa, Jay.
literally no fucking world do I go through this for a townie as mafia lol

I believe you. So I'll rule that out.

I still think the POE is sound even if you're town btw.

Nutella, Koba, Michelle, Nanook are my lock towncore atm. SPF, Made and Tutuu have invites pending outcomes.

LC is mafia in a couple of combinations I've humoured that don't include Alison/Esooa.

He can also be town being TMI spewed by them.

As far as day 1s go I have high confidence that there is mafia in my POE of LC, Al, Esooa, Jay.

I am voting LC.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:10 pm Ok Mac

Should I be sheeping your alison read?

8.5

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:10 pm Ok Mac

Should I be sheeping your alison read?

8.5

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:05 pm actually the made wagon seems pretty pure what could this mean

Lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:01 pm I’m going to bed. Happy with my vote where it is.

Plz

Whoa that last bit. I'm scum now?

Lmao ok bye.

I just find it hard to believe Alison. I'm more worried about her than you right now.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:48 pm Also, @MacDougall , I need to tell people why LC is not the better vote over Ellie if I want Ellie baked. Moving votes off LC is intrinsic to pushing Ellie

I was the first person to move from LC to Ellie fwiw.

Alison's progression on Ellie went from lock town to slightly softened, to voting, with no in-between. No effort to engage her. No effort to make a case. Its almost townie cuz of how sloppy it would be for her. But we don't outthink ourselves with Alison.

So you are that sure Ellie is mafia that you would presume Alison is bussing as more likely than her just trying to kill a town?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:40 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:39 pm @MacDougall can you explain what you think I would be doing differently here if I were town
Pushing a case hard that nobody agrees with. You'd sound more like me lol.
why is me pushing Ellie scum LC town not that? Very few people agreed with it

I haven't really seen you push Ellie that much tbh. Just the townshielding. I also don't think I've seen you townshield hard as town either. You can usually see in you when you do or do not actually have the information. You have a nervous anxiety as town that gets replaced with supreme overconfidence as scum and I think its the alignment knowledge that causes the change.

It was an outlier in many ways but not in that it was her being headstrong as town.

You'd be like tunneled onto Nanook hard or someone like that. Raging about how nobody can see it reee.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:39 pm @MacDougall can you explain what you think I would be doing differently here if I were town

Pushing a case hard that nobody agrees with. You'd sound more like me lol.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:56 am
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:56 am lol dude i know i can, you literally showed me how you play mafia. get fucked kid if youre mafia this game youre as good as toast
lock town

@Esooa Alison lock townread Ellie for this. Alison isn't someone who makes statements like this lightly and backs down from them. You have experienced that very Alison. That I now see her voting for Ellie concerns me greatly. Either Alison is bussing her the lock town read was fake. Alison is always mafia here.

@Esooa @Alison one of you are mafia if the other is town. Figure it out lol.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:29 pm Ohhhh Ellie is the one you're omgussing that's right. Was wondering why it wasn't me lol.
Ellie town reads me

Yeah but she wasn't at first.

Why are you scumreading her btw?

Made that's real good antispew if you're not teamed with esooa keep it up.

Ohhhh Ellie is the one you're omgussing that's right. Was wondering why it wasn't me lol.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:25 pm Y'all gonna let Esooa live just cuz you don't know she good as a wolf imo.
this is why I said ur trying to fear kill me Mac

I'm not tho. They should be if they knew better lol.

Meanwhile Grogu has 0 votes lol.

Fuck it.

Y'all gonna let Esooa live just cuz you don't know she good as a wolf imo.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:09 pm It wasn't until I got my new phone that I realised fingerprints are unique to each finger. Still trying to unlock my phone with the wrong thumb. I'm dumb.
you should be able to add both

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:20 pm Hi let's go back to lc please

LC's wolfy ass popins while Alison and Esooa were hazing my ass were not lost on me.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:17 pm Start pushing me as mafia
why

I was talking to made lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:05 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:57 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:55 pm Mac if I am scum with Esooa and LC why would we coalesce on Ellie to defend LC when all three of our metas/MOs as scum would involve the two of us ejecting LC out of an airlock and then going deep
You're trying to say there is no particular gamestate in which you would choose to try to save a teammate on day 1 of a 3 wolf game?
No, I'm saying that if I was wolfing with Esooa and LC in this spot, I would team up with Esooa to bury LC extremely hard and then go deep. The counterargument is that LC could be a scum PR, in which case, sure, but it requires you to believe a very specific outlook on exactly who is scum and what their roles are.
Well I just gave you a better scenario backed up by Esooa's own self meta so.
you seriously think I can't change my meta?

Course you can. Not really an argument if you think about it. Just cuz you can doesn't mean you did. I mean clearly you didn't here if I'm right so... try to keep your objections relevant lol.

Start pushing me as mafia

@Made antispew quick

Holy madewagon

It wasn't until I got my new phone that I realised fingerprints are unique to each finger. Still trying to unlock my phone with the wrong thumb. I'm dumb.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:54 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:52 pm fwiw, i saw esooa claim wolf for an extended amount of time and say "awoooo" several times in a game where she was town just a couple of weeks ago. i'm pretty sure that a scumclaim from her is NAI
this comment from spf is >>>>>>rand town btw
Lmao. We shall see how you feel about SPF when your agenda needs for you to suspect her.
ok im liking this mindset from u now cuz im mindmelding with this

We have a ways to go before I can forget the pain you caused me with your anime betrayal.

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