The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:24 am @MacDougall didnt yall kill Hally n1 in their first game on the syndicate in space invaders?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:40 am I especially don't believe in chiding mafia teams for making "bad mannered" kills in post

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:42 am In general I'm not really concerned about vigs*, but when we have a backup that gives us a 2kp night it's the right play imo



*apparently I should've been concerned about this one!

dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 6:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 9:58 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:11 am

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 7:39 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:06 pm Obviously this isn't exactly an unbiased perspective but my first impression is that Nook's "just sheep legacy ez" is total bs. We know everything they did and more.

I had a right read this game

GG

TBF one of you said that Julinook and Akemi aren’t scum due to the N1 kill yet both were so lol.

The chaos merchants of Nanook and Alison overruled Juliets and Nutella. Meh. BM kill anyway. If they want the win that bad they can have it idc.

what is a BM kill?

you are making it sound like they did a bad thing? if you were mafia and the vig outted themselves day 1, you're telling me you won't kill them, not knowing how many shots they have?

get real, mac

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:56 pm Unless you know they're okay with it of course

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 11:37 am gg thanks for making me feel so... welcomed.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:11 am

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 7:39 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:06 pm Obviously this isn't exactly an unbiased perspective but my first impression is that Nook's "just sheep legacy ez" is total bs. We know everything they did and more.

I had a right read this game

GG

TBF one of you said that Julinook and Akemi aren’t scum due to the N1 kill yet both were so lol.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:20 pm And it was Juliets that pocketed me not Nanook lol.

But Nanook was like the only one in hydra for Day 2 +

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:55 pm also Mac rly just out here on his main account

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:48 pm Dana was super townie in aim yeah, and her seeming to disappear is kinda concerning

Not sure mafia watcher makes sense tho so

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:44 pm terrible read BUT

if two and through/bottom text/tspic are all wolves then i've played way too well this game, and i'm horrible at villaging

maybe this is a stupid reason to doubt myself but it's still causing me to think i'm being snowed

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:42 pm BT is prob always a hit here tbh It's probably BT/TsPIc or BT/Poop

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:37 pm interested in seeing what mac thinks of tspic's current posts. i might sideline what i think about that slot until then.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:28 pm Lol im back to thinking T&T might be town, and the wolves are exactly TR/mana/T&B

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:16 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:13 pm I think Juliets feels rather persona non grata a la Dana which is probably bad

Yeah she had to step back from the game, I said as much yesterday

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:13 pm I think Juliets feels rather persona non grata a la Dana which is probably bad

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:01 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:51 pm Can we please stop vaguely pointing at Mana? The best person to chop today is Poop, period, I have laid out the arguments, and they're good. Either actually push me or fall in line nerds, i can't work with this wishy washy "we should probably end on mana, i think hmmmm...." bull

i mean

both heads of our hydra think you're a wolf! thats one of esooas only reads!

im unvoting because of maj reasons, in case im wrong

if you want to shade me then do it when it makes sense please :P

it just doesn't feel like there's anything coherent around me beside vague feelings relating back to d1. My reads are immaculate, the reads on me aren't being given in thread and it's frustrating. Both times Poop voted me were bs. First time was because his teammate T&T was about to get chopped, and the second was because they "Don't want to read lol". I'm just more town than poop in every way. Feel free to check the receipts there too!!

And when Dana show up to thread it's GG Mana's town anyways, so let's just skip to the part where i'm not on the chopping block.

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:54 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:52 pm actually no, majority is 5. no one is in hammer range.

2 Town votes a Town
THAT’S FUCKIN 2 VOTES.
IN A 3 MAFIA WORLD SCUM CAN ALL VOTE THE TOWN AND WIN THE GAME!

-Toopy

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:53 pm Gav your mech is terrible for an increasingly large number of reasons.

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:51 pm Can we please stop vaguely pointing at Mana? The best person to chop today is Poop, period, I have laid out the arguments, and they're good. Either actually push me or fall in line nerds, i can't work with this wishy washy "we should probably end on mana, i think hmmmm...." bull

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:47 pm Ok so guys.
If there is 3 Mafia alive, Mana or Poop HAVE to be Mafia or Mafia would have already hammered.

BT and Poop are voting Mana.
BT is Lock Town leaving 2 players Poop/Mana.

@Julinook
@Akemi Hazelnut
@trans rights
@TonyStarkPlaysItCool
@Bottom Text

ONlY VOTE BETWEEN MANA AND POOP TODAY PLEASE!

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:42 pm a village roleblocker and a village jailkeeper both existing in a 13er?

mist said that she thinks this is unlikely to be v/v and i'm inclined to agree

i wonder if a wolf would just claim something else though... idk.

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:17 pm ehhh tspic's posts are villagery today though, including how their read on two and through and toopy and binoo being different alignments. i don't know what to make of this.

also the fact that bottom text did not receive feedback on if their action was blocked is noted, but i don't really know how those types of mechanics work on the syndicate. in my experience, you're only know if you're blocked if you have an action that gives you feedback.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 12:34 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:42 am Okay so poop went from town reading T&T and BT (which is a huge yikes on it's own), to then voting T&T when it looked like they were doomed, then to switching to Mana when it looked like the Mana wagon could go over (which it would of till BT and TR switched to T&T). So basically if T&T is scum it's always Poop. It COULD be BT or TR if T&T scum, but it's less likely because the only reason to do this is knowing the D1 kill will be janitored and prefering the janitor flip over a naked scum flip which is possible. Of the two, BT is more likely because BT in a sense could be seen as voting to "save" so that vote was kinda forced, and for all we know janitor only worked on T&T and not BT.

Poop then preceeded to be perfectly wrong the next day in their reads. That's impressive, but not in light of them almost voting to save scum D1.

Poop is just scum y'all. you gotta vote'em guise, you just gottaaaaa

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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:45 pm My intuition tells me TAT and BT are both town.

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:29 pm [VOTE: TwoandThrough] aubergine

Gadoosh!

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:18 pm I feel like the mafia is Mana + FK + one between H&V and Timsup2gettingserious. That's where I am at.

This is the part where everyone sheeps my reads

(sheeping image for reference of proper form)

@Mac does this change your "no reasoning" read on this slot

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:44 am

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:37 am

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:27 am

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:24 am hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:09 am

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:01 am

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:54 am

Mana wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:24 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:16 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:15 pm Julinook and TPIC are my "if they're scum they earned the win tbh" reads atm

can you elaborate on the tspic read briefly?

their read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game

Except for me thinking that you're a wolf, and still maybe do as well

okay, read my recent post, and say this again with your chest, so I know if I need to defend myself actively here or not

You have a decent point on Poop, but imo inconsistency is more of a townie look. Idk what to say to you because I think they're both villagers from posts alone.

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:59 am Poe solve

It's not AkeHaze cuz nutella wouldn't x roxy d1, they were mech'd n1, and alison would always carry the nk here
it's not Toopy and boop because weird ass early game mech things
It's not Julinook cuz they protected AH
It's not both BT and TR because end of day one (slightly less likely to be TR if T&T is scum)

that leaves
Poop, the suspiciously Ineffective body guard
either BT or TR (in that order for reasons mentioned above)
and TPIC, who's claim will hopefully kick them out of POE

Does poop have town/scum equity with any of these players?

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:42 am Okay so poop went from town reading T&T and BT (which is a huge yikes on it's own), to then voting T&T when it looked like they were doomed, then to switching to Mana when it looked like the Mana wagon could go over (which it would of till BT and TR switched to T&T). So basically if T&T is scum it's always Poop. It COULD be BT or TR if T&T scum, but it's less likely because the only reason to do this is knowing the D1 kill will be janitored and prefering the janitor flip over a naked scum flip which is possible. Of the two, BT is more likely because BT in a sense could be seen as voting to "save" so that vote was kinda forced, and for all we know janitor only worked on T&T and not BT.

Poop then preceeded to be perfectly wrong the next day in their reads. That's impressive, but not in light of them almost voting to save scum D1.

Poop is just scum y'all. you gotta vote'em guise, you just gottaaaaa

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Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:45 pm My intuition tells me TAT and BT are both town.

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:29 pm [VOTE: TwoandThrough] aubergine

Gadoosh!

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 10:18 pm I feel like the mafia is Mana + FK + one between H&V and Timsup2gettingserious. That's where I am at.

This is the part where everyone sheeps my reads

(sheeping image for reference of proper form)

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:55 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:54 pm I am fairly convinced Poop is town and I believe his roleclaim. Therefore.

If I believe that Poop and BT's claims can coexist I should vote in FK/Mana, probably Mana. FK's SOD today was pretty uninspiring but Mana's EOD yesterday was horrible.

If I do not believe that Poop and BT's claims can coexist I should just vote BT obviously.

vote Bottom Text today and Poop Explosions D3

ez win