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by MacDougall
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:49 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm Guess 1 - Guillo was a townsiding bisnitch all game and bussed all his team
Guess 2 - TSP is just mafia (caveat seems to be nobody else thinks this for probably some good reason I'm unaware of)
Guess 3 - It's LC
Did MacDougall just acknowledged that i've had great reads in this game? :slick:
if town absolutely best I've seen you play
good job guillo
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:31 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [END]

My approach to the game was to just barely pay attention and call out what i thought was bullshit... turns out TSP bullshits a lot lol
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:25 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:14 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:07 pm Laying down slank cover for day zero also someone please read the setup and say some false things about it so I can contribute
[VOTE: tsp] aubergine
ah the old vote a mafia in my first post of the game old chestnut
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:23 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:31 pm I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook
tsp is mafia god
*proceeds to vote on counterwagon to sabie*
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:18 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [END]

told y'all they tried to kill me n2 as well lmao
by MacDougall
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:16 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [END]

told y'all
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

lol
by MacDougall
Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:51 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

Wilgy is probably town for voting me tbh
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:48 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:54 am are you one of the heavies
yes nerd
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:40 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:28 pm I think it’s one of the heavies
then why did we both vote on nanook over Jack?
by MacDougall
Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:39 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:14 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:12 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:55 pm If Sabie does flip Mafia that CFD is pretty sus, probably just means NAA is Mafia.
If Sabie is Town though, I don't think that gets us anywhere useful.
what does LP have going for him?
Catching 3 scum and being a god at reads :P
I'm sure if I bothered to look there'd be plenty of you making bad reads. Case in point your current one.
So you don't think it's LC? Then who are your top mafia?
this is a fallacious response. you were calling me your top scum.
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:15 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:12 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:55 pm If Sabie does flip Mafia that CFD is pretty sus, probably just means NAA is Mafia.
If Sabie is Town though, I don't think that gets us anywhere useful.
what does LP have going for him?
Catching 3 scum and being a god at reads :P
Explain which 3 scum you caught and how please?
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:14 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:12 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:55 pm If Sabie does flip Mafia that CFD is pretty sus, probably just means NAA is Mafia.
If Sabie is Town though, I don't think that gets us anywhere useful.
what does LP have going for him?
Catching 3 scum and being a god at reads :P
I'm sure if I bothered to look there'd be plenty of you making bad reads. Case in point your current one.
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:12 pm Like...
Spoiler: show
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:23 pm
sabie12 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:43 am
sabie12 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:59 am I, too, have been fooled a few times by mafia jack. I feel like I can never read him. I'm not sure I've ever seen mafia falcon or just don't remember so not sure if there is a difference, but I didn't see anything outright scummy with him so far. Gavial I think is also a bit harder to read. I saw that people kind of jumped on voting him pretty quick into the day.
Pls more prescriptive less descriptive statements
Sure I can elaborate. I don't think we can judge Jack's alignment yet as he hasn't been here even if he has been tricky in the past. I was unsure as to why everyone jumped so quickly on the gav train so early on. I guess that stems from me taking a little longer to process things in the beginning of games before figuring things out. From my experience, I feel like there are sometimes players who often get scumread early on whether they are town or scum. I've seen this happen to sig and to gavial for example and it seems to have happened here.
down to just kill gavial and jack next based on this post
Both wrong.
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia
Also wrong.
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:33 am
LinearPoint wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:29 am We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.
Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.
Double wrong with nanook being town and jack being mafia.
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:04 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:02 pm That'd be too obvious though, nah

Maybe that is what scum wants us to think.

Why scum would kill Gavial? The loose cannon who's been PoE.

Scum does not kill Gavial but if they didn't... scum does not kill Jack either. The kills dont make sense.
Jack is spewed town by the nanook flip and probably had wolves voting him.

NAA is essentially outed by two wagons now.
NAA wasn't Mafia, so wrong again.
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:42 am @DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.

Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.

Don't like Falcon either.
A rare actually correct read Mac had this game.
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:12 pm So I read a little bit and see Sabie is red checked which should clear me tbh cuz I wanted to kill her ass and do nothing else before the red check was a thing.

Aaaaanyway TSP, NAA and Nanook can just get it.

I also want Gavial, Guillo and Martin to die.
Also just put a bunch of names out there, Nanook flipped Mafia, Gav vlipped Town and the rest are alive. So at least 4 of these reads are wrong.
I'm mostly putting this out here because Mac is rather uncharacteristically just wrong wiht 90% of his mafia reads this game.
I don't care about any of this. I pushed sig, I'm heavily responsible for Nanook dying. I also was gonna strongarm sabie over prior to red check. You're just henpicking what you need to make an argument.

I could do the same to you easily.

It's what happens when you're not afraid to give thoughts. Some of them are incorrect.
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:12 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:55 pm If Sabie does flip Mafia that CFD is pretty sus, probably just means NAA is Mafia.
If Sabie is Town though, I don't think that gets us anywhere useful.
what does LP have going for him?
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:11 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:02 pm I wouldn’t worry about Sabie long term though
fuck that sabie dies today
prior to red check
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:09 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:03 pm And honestly after reading Mac's ISO I'm kind of leaning on Mac being Mafia.
He has legitimately no correct reads outside of Nannook being Mafia.
you just read my entire iso and arrived at that?
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:07 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:02 pm Per Gullio's request I have combed through Day 1 and compiled every post that could be construed as not wanting to lynch Sig (ignoring dead people and Sig)
Unfortunately Sig's biggest defender was Gav and not many people questioned or even wanted to defend Sig.
Spoiler: show
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Why not Mac?
MacDougall wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:35 pm @Seanzie why sig?
Marmot wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:20 pm sig and LP are confirmed town in my mind

LC probably too.
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:46 pm
sig wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:26 pm I'll grant you the confirmation bias, but raise that you're basically doing the same thing for me.
I'm mildly confident that sig is town

Obviously not solely because of this quote, but I think in connection to other posts which I town-read I feel rather comfortable giving a town-read here.
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:56 pm yup p sure sig is town or my understand of FM is wrong
Although Mac never mentioned anything about Sig at the start of D2, he and sig were tag teaming trying to lynch me D2.
I think if you were going off of people defending Sig then that would mean Mac is really the only suspect. Falcon while he did question Sig lynch did everytually get on Sig after Sig dipped after being accused D1.
Maybe marmot.
So far I'm thinking LC, Martin, or Mac for last Mafia based on Sig-related analysis.

Also gullio is just always town lol. He was hard pushing Sabie and Sig for D1 lynch.
LOL TSP is even more IC. "I could go for Sabie, Sig, or Nanook today" lol.
All maf got hard scum read D1.
are you mistaking me for someone else? I've been pushing sig since the game started and he overreacted and spewed me town every time
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:54 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

sig wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:54 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:03 pm
sig wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:45 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:22 pm Guess who targeted Dolby?

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Maybe I healed him

But who killed him dead?
Am I not allowed to do two things.
lmao
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

Guillotine wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm Guess 1 - Guillo was a townsiding bisnitch all game and bussed all his team
Guess 2 - TSP is just mafia (caveat seems to be nobody else thinks this for probably some good reason I'm unaware of)
Guess 3 - It's LC
Did MacDougall just acknowledged that i've had great reads in this game? :slick:
if town absolutely best I've seen you play
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:47 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:33 pm As I said, game is auto pilot into a win.

Please watch me and I'll simply act as a cop clearing players by my role block.

Fyi I blocked Mac just because...I didn't read the game and I sent my action in last minute.

If someone wants to send me a list of who we think is cleared and who I should avoid that would be great.
Ping me for these proceedings.
suuuure you did
Do you have a role that gives you a result? I pretty much just sent the RB on you to see what would happen.
you know my role
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:51 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

sig wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:38 pm
sig wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:36 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:29 pm
sig wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:14 pm
sig wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:02 pm Keep this up Mac and I might flop you over to the mafia side of my Mac meta.
oh no how scary sig is threatening to omgus me
I mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
Every time I suspect you regardless of your alignment you always make this argument which is always incorrect as I've pushed you as town many times, and been correct many times...

I think you are sus. Not being pushed since d1 given your performance here is strongly indicative that you are mafia or the mafia would have tried to push you.

What about pushing you of all people makes me dumb? Where do you get off calling me dumb for daring to push a tepid, omgussy Sig that has been coasting?
1. I mean it's a pretty good argument to make. :srsnod:

2. I wouldn't say I'm being tepid what so ever, I'm making reads when I see them and asking questions. Not my fault more people aren't engaging in my reads and that the thread keeps getting derailed by dumb arguments.

3. On this whole tepid/not doing enough point we are only on D3, and D2 was a total wash, even with that I've still done more than alot of other players so kinda weak to see I'm not doing anything and being tepid.

4. Back to point 3, I don't think I'm coasting at all, I'm posting, giving my thoughts, and staying caught up which is more than some people. So don't really see where this whole coasting thing is coming from. :shrug2:

5. It's dumb since it"s wrong and is a lazy approach. Not really doing any work into it just asking why other people haven't voted for me and helping to set up mafia for an easy vote/mislynch.
How is it a lazy approach to push someone with 0 votes when there are 5-3 wagons? The work has yet to start.

Dumb since it's wrong hey. Okay well I'm just gonna go ahead and call everyone sussing me dumb, that is surely a mature way to engage people.
I wouldn't call you engaging other people with an open question of why doesn't sig have votes really worthy of a mature response. :shrug2:

Having said that you did engage me re falcon/jack so I've got no problem engaging back.
in which I'm cleared
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

Guess 1 - Guillo was a townsiding bisnitch all game and bussed all his team
Guess 2 - TSP is just mafia (caveat seems to be nobody else thinks this for probably some good reason I'm unaware of)
Guess 3 - It's LC
by MacDougall
Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:47 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]

Lime Coke wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:33 pm As I said, game is auto pilot into a win.

Please watch me and I'll simply act as a cop clearing players by my role block.

Fyi I blocked Mac just because...I didn't read the game and I sent my action in last minute.

If someone wants to send me a list of who we think is cleared and who I should avoid that would be great.
Ping me for these proceedings.
suuuure you did
by MacDougall
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:08 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:42 pm Wilgy can I ask two questions

I'm assuming you think that TSP is deepwolf, that's fine

what's the realistic solve iye?
I don't consider tsp a deepwolf... I consider chopping the entire seanzie wagon to be optimal...

myself not included of course
by MacDougall
Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:24 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

fist
by MacDougall
Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:14 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

you know if guillo is town we can kinda just break the game lol
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:48 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Marmot wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:36 pm It sounds like everyone has claimed except for Guillo? I wish I was paying attention.
hes blue heavy
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:21 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm I gotta work now.

Let’s kill Sig, he’s been outed scum since day 1.
I don't entirely disagree
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:17 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:12 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm Although it seems weird Mafia didn't kill either Medic claim.
Mafia is not killing the obvious kills period
dude you're off chop

they killed a town watcher and missed a kill n2

just shut up
No. I dont believe for a minute that scum would not kill Marmot, or you, or me. I expected to die so either scum believed that i was gonna use my self save or i have been pocketed by scum meaning ive been dead wrong
Guillo...

scum probably did think you were self saving

but you dying is inconsequential compared to a town watcher that just survived as a c/w to a wolf and was spewed town in the process

Marmot has enough tinfoil on him to choose to kill Jack over him

and Marmot or me are mechanically near confirmed to have been shot at n2
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:16 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:00 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:21 pm

Sig - Medic (Doctor)
Dolby - Demoman (Roleblocker) - blocked Nanook N2
TSP - Sniper (Vig)
LC - Demoman (Roleblocker)
Marmot - Soldier (Watcher) - Saw Mafia Kill N1
Wiggly - Pyro (Redirector)
Martin - Engineer (JOAT)
Mac - Heavy (Vote Manipulator)

NNA at one point fake claimed Spy (Vig)
Falcon at one point fake claimed Medic (Doctor)

Non claimers are me, Guillotine, NAA, Falcon.
Of those there are a Pyro, Medic, Heavy, and Spy.
Mafia kills on n1 and n3 indicate medic dodging. There is probably one mafia at min in the unclaimed and it's probably not the Spy or Heavy (which is probably NAA). Either Linear is mafia or the unclaimed medic is. Who is probably Guillo.

Guillo/TSP is my solve.
Ok then you are mafia here.

Im Blue Heavy and im willing to thunderdome you and dude, im not Seanzie or Gavial and we have 70 hours with no hammer.
okay you're town then cuz I've already determined the other heavy is town
No bitch. It will not be that easy, why have you determined that?
lack of vote manipulation shenanigans... you could have saved nanook yesterday with your role and vote for instance
Ok. Yah i used Natasha on you yesterday
if you were mafia you could have voted Jack and used it on Nanook

likewise I could have done the same
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:12 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm Although it seems weird Mafia didn't kill either Medic claim.
Mafia is not killing the obvious kills period
dude you're off chop

they killed a town watcher and missed a kill n2

just shut up
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:00 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:16 pm What are the living claims? We force mass claim today and kill everything bogus.
Sig - Medic (Doctor)
Dolby - Demoman (Roleblocker) - blocked Nanook N2
TSP - Sniper (Vig)
LC - Demoman (Roleblocker)
Marmot - Soldier (Watcher) - Saw Mafia Kill N1
Wiggly - Pyro (Redirector)
Martin - Engineer (JOAT)
Mac - Heavy (Vote Manipulator)

NNA at one point fake claimed Spy (Vig)
Falcon at one point fake claimed Medic (Doctor)

Non claimers are me, Guillotine, NAA, Falcon.
Of those there are a Pyro, Medic, Heavy, and Spy.
Mafia kills on n1 and n3 indicate medic dodging. There is probably one mafia at min in the unclaimed and it's probably not the Spy or Heavy (which is probably NAA). Either Linear is mafia or the unclaimed medic is. Who is probably Guillo.

Guillo/TSP is my solve.
Ok then you are mafia here.

Im Blue Heavy and im willing to thunderdome you and dude, im not Seanzie or Gavial and we have 70 hours with no hammer.
okay you're town then cuz I've already determined the other heavy is town
No bitch. It will not be that easy, why have you determined that?
lack of vote manipulation shenanigans... you could have saved nanook yesterday with your role and vote for instance
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm Oh so Falcon was Medic he just said he was faking Medic? I guess that makes sense.
all three of them fake claimed their real roles
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:00 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:16 pm What are the living claims? We force mass claim today and kill everything bogus.
Sig - Medic (Doctor)
Dolby - Demoman (Roleblocker) - blocked Nanook N2
TSP - Sniper (Vig)
LC - Demoman (Roleblocker)
Marmot - Soldier (Watcher) - Saw Mafia Kill N1
Wiggly - Pyro (Redirector)
Martin - Engineer (JOAT)
Mac - Heavy (Vote Manipulator)

NNA at one point fake claimed Spy (Vig)
Falcon at one point fake claimed Medic (Doctor)

Non claimers are me, Guillotine, NAA, Falcon.
Of those there are a Pyro, Medic, Heavy, and Spy.
Mafia kills on n1 and n3 indicate medic dodging. There is probably one mafia at min in the unclaimed and it's probably not the Spy or Heavy (which is probably NAA). Either Linear is mafia or the unclaimed medic is. Who is probably Guillo.

Guillo/TSP is my solve.
Ok then you are mafia here.

Im Blue Heavy and im willing to thunderdome you and dude, im not Seanzie or Gavial and we have 70 hours with no hammer.
okay you're town then cuz I've already determined the other heavy is town
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:02 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

@TonyStarkPrime
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:01 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:22 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:19 pm Like if im scum and Marmot is town, he is dead. If Mac is town, dead as hell. Linear who is spewed town by Sabie? Dead!

I’d never push Axe if he is yown, he is an agent of chaos I’d love to keep them.

Im just town here
this is tmi
What? It’s true. If Axe was town you’d think i’d push him when he can do dirty work for me and my team?
This is not the first time i say it, why didnt you call me out before?

You know what is weird? You being “spewed” town by sabie and Nanook’s lynches and having claimed your only self save available on night 2 and you are still alive.

Not as weird as Marmot still being alive though.
I didn't call you out before because I didn't call you out before. I'm doing it now because it occurs to me.

Notwithstanding, yes pushing a town on the wrong side of chops and reads is basic mafia tactics. It wouldn't be weird at all. It would be weird if mafia hadn't been pushing him.

So it's weird that I didn't die last night over the town watcher counterwagon to a flipped mafia that was spewed town... is what you're saying actually.

Because I couldn't die n2 (a night there was no kill) and was never dying n1 after being a seanzie voter...

So what you're saying is ridiculous. The entirety of it.
Dude, unless the mafia team is totally dysfunctional and are a bunch of noobs, you never live long if you are town after vlaimjng self save, in fact the longer you live the more unlikely is that you are town, you are always fear killed as town.

Also, you parked on Seanzie, they flipped town. Tunneled Gavial, town. Now you are going after me, im town sharing the same rile as yours which by the way. I TOOK A GAMBLE AND DIDNT USE MY SELF SAVE LAST NIGHT SO I WILL USE IT TONIGHT, scummy suckers! Lol.

So yah, if anyone bussed… it’s you and if you continue to push me and you are town, what’s going on with you? Get gud.
there has been one night since I claimed self save
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:00 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:16 pm What are the living claims? We force mass claim today and kill everything bogus.
Sig - Medic (Doctor)
Dolby - Demoman (Roleblocker) - blocked Nanook N2
TSP - Sniper (Vig)
LC - Demoman (Roleblocker)
Marmot - Soldier (Watcher) - Saw Mafia Kill N1
Wiggly - Pyro (Redirector)
Martin - Engineer (JOAT)
Mac - Heavy (Vote Manipulator)

NNA at one point fake claimed Spy (Vig)
Falcon at one point fake claimed Medic (Doctor)

Non claimers are me, Guillotine, NAA, Falcon.
Of those there are a Pyro, Medic, Heavy, and Spy.
Mafia kills on n1 and n3 indicate medic dodging. There is probably one mafia at min in the unclaimed and it's probably not the Spy or Heavy (which is probably NAA). Either Linear is mafia or the unclaimed medic is. Who is probably Guillo.

Guillo/TSP is my solve.
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:55 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

need the rest of the claims to sort through who is bs

@Guillotine @NotAnAxehole please?
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:52 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:51 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:49 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:36 pm linearpoint what is your role and actions taken?
Eh, sure it's not too easy to hide it anymore anyways.

It's Pyro
N1 - Target redirected Sig (just didn't like him D1)
N2 - Protected Martin (to protect his buildings)
N3 - Target redirected Mac (Since Mac cannot normally visit I thought I could possibly catch out a Mac!Mafia preforming the factional kill)

Haven't use
You're full of shit. You've had me locktown the entire game and I buried Nanook. There's no way you targeted me with pyro redirect n3.
:P

If you don't want to clear I can take it back. As far as I'm concerned I don't see you not preforming the factional kill N3 and Jack doesn't seem like an odd Mafia kill target so I think it nicely clears you.
who did you try to have me kill?
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:49 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:48 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:36 pm linearpoint what is your role and actions taken?
Eh, sure it's not too easy to hide it anymore anyways.

It's Pyro
N1 - Target redirected Sig (just didn't like him D1)
N2 - Protected Martin (to protect his buildings)
N3 - Target redirected Mac (Since Mac cannot normally visit I thought I could possibly catch out a Mac!Mafia preforming the factional kill)

Haven't use
You're full of shit. You've had me locktown the entire game and I buried Nanook. There's no way you targeted me with pyro redirect n3.
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:22 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:19 pm Like if im scum and Marmot is town, he is dead. If Mac is town, dead as hell. Linear who is spewed town by Sabie? Dead!

I’d never push Axe if he is yown, he is an agent of chaos I’d love to keep them.

Im just town here
this is tmi
What? It’s true. If Axe was town you’d think i’d push him when he can do dirty work for me and my team?
This is not the first time i say it, why didnt you call me out before?

You know what is weird? You being “spewed” town by sabie and Nanook’s lynches and having claimed your only self save available on night 2 and you are still alive.

Not as weird as Marmot still being alive though.
I didn't call you out before because I didn't call you out before. I'm doing it now because it occurs to me.

Notwithstanding, yes pushing a town on the wrong side of chops and reads is basic mafia tactics. It wouldn't be weird at all. It would be weird if mafia hadn't been pushing him.

So it's weird that I didn't die last night over the town watcher counterwagon to a flipped mafia that was spewed town... is what you're saying actually.

Because I couldn't die n2 (a night there was no kill) and was never dying n1 after being a seanzie voter...

So what you're saying is ridiculous. The entirety of it.
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:38 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

and he's scarcely responsible at all for nanook going over
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:37 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

how do you get to "tsp is bussing his whole team if mafia" when he literally made the crit vote on the day 1 mafia counterwagon and spend all of day 3 burying a town?
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:36 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

linearpoint what is your role and actions taken?
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:35 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:31 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:29 pm But the problem is if TSP lies about his target N1. He gets outed if Sabie is not lynched D2.
no he doesn't...

"I shot at sabie but it didn't go through... must have been roleblocked or sabie saved".
That still outs whoever roleblocked him as confirmed Mafia, so I mean if TSP's grand plan is to bus his whole team then OK I guess.
But for TSP to be Mafia it still necessitates that TSP is hard bussing his whole team.
tsp didn't hard bus sabie he did the exact opposite

if the mafia have a medic he has plausible deniability for missing on sabie

even if they don't he can just make that claim and get a roleblocker chopped

notwithstanding in role madness with these players nothing is off the table... you don't even need perfect claims you just say shit and people like me get confused and don't care
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:33 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

noting guillo went belly up when I told him to antispew
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:32 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:16 pm What are the living claims? We force mass claim today and kill everything bogus.
Sig - Medic (Doctor)
Dolby - Demoman (Roleblocker) - blocked Nanook N2
TSP - Sniper (Vig)
LC - Demoman (Roleblocker)
Marmot - Soldier (Watcher) - Saw Mafia Kill N1
Wiggly - Pyro (Redirector)
Martin - Engineer (JOAT)
Mac - Heavy (Vote Manipulator)

NNA at one point fake claimed Spy (Vig)
Falcon at one point fake claimed Medic (Doctor)

Non claimers are me, Guillotine, NAA, Falcon.
Of those there are a Pyro, Medic, Heavy, and Spy.
guillo is just the mafia medic then?
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:31 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

LinearPoint wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:29 pm But the problem is if TSP lies about his target N1. He gets outed if Sabie is not lynched D2.
no he doesn't...

"I shot at sabie but it didn't go through... must have been roleblocked or sabie saved".
by MacDougall
Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:31 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:44 pm nanook more likely to flip town but game state dictates a chop there
this post is just an attempt to look like they don't have tmi

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