The Syndicate

Also, if I had known Dana was going to miss that vote the other day, I definitely would not have bussed Long Con to death, but that's what I get for voting early. At least it made for a close and intense endgame! :P

DFaraday wrote:Good game, baddies, I guess. I didn't really deserve a win anyway.

Not true. You fought well all the way to the end and you made it become more and more obvious that I didn't actually have any good reason to vote for you, which made me worried that SD would vote for me instead of you or indi after I went to bed. Your strategy of deliberately not supatowning was also clever because for most of the game we underestimated how much of a threat you would end up being. Like Columbo.

Great game everyone! Being bad with LC and indiglo was so much fun that I couldn't believe I was able to stay level-headed enough to make it to the end. Very very rare for me. Congrats to the Coque civs as well!

Please don't try to tell me I didn't give you a chance either because I gave you way more of a chance than you gave me. That seems to be a running trend that I've had to deal with this whole game...people claiming I'm not giving them the time of day when really it's the other way around.

Wrong. Being confident in everyone but I doesn't justify that vote from a civilian perspective. It's absurd to think that the last GP civ with everything on the line would toss a vote near the beginning of the phase, somehow claiming that everyone but the one you're voting for is all-but-confirmed civilian while still acknowledging that it's possible that they're bad. It's a vote that can only be justified from a baddie perspective. I need to fucking sleep, I waited as long as I could. I just don't see how you could turn this around since all of your defenses are cop-outs and the other two aren't pinging me right now whatsoever. So, DFaraday.

linki - Oh of fucking course your defense is "I can't defend against this" when in fact you can, and then you immediately proceed to throw shade on me for not addressing something that I literally can't defend against. Either you think ekeknat had info or you don't. I happen to know he didn't since what he claimed is incorrect, but I can't prove that to you or anyone else, yada yada yada. Come on, you even acknowledge that there's a ton of WIFOM with that yet you suspect me for not touching on that anyway? You're so damn bad. That "massive arrow" is nothing on your vote today because the so-called massive arrow is something someone else said about me, whereas the reason I'm voting for you is for something that YOU did that only makes sense from a baddie perspective. Sorry I'm not sorry.

I also find it amusing how your defense is to explain why you think everyone but me is civ while not even bothering to defend your own alignment.

Your early vote makes no sense from any perspective except GP mafia. I don't know how many different ways I can say this.

DFaraday if you've got a defense for anything that the person you're voting for has said about you then by all means...

indiglo wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:So you suspect me zebra?

You pinged me once early on in the game and I haven't forgotten, but you haven't done anything since that I have found suspicious. Right now you would be the last person I would vote for (besides myself of course) but all the same, I can't say I don't suspect you at all. It's just that at this point it's my gut and how eerily little others have suspected you for some time.

So you would vote me over SD?

I would. But right now here's how it goes:

1. DFaraday







































































2. You
3. Spacedaisy

Can you dig it? And I don't even suspect you content-wise as much as I do Spacedaisy, it's just that because she was lynched and all I just think you're more likely to be bad from process of elimination. I don't know who everyone is obviously but she seems closer to a "all-but-confirmed-civ" (as DF would put it) than you do. I believe you about the vote thing because I feel like if you're bad then it would be easier to just say you didn't want to vote for LC and own it rather then not vote LC and pretend it was a mistake.

Here's when you pinged me earlier. I said "wishywashyception" because your post was calling out wishy-washyness but at the same time is extremely wishy-washy in itself.

a2thezebra wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

S~V~S wrote:ebwop, to say, I don't act like a pissy whiny bitch when I am bad, lol.

lol, have you been a pissy whiny bitch? I thought this is so funny.

On the fence on this potential slip. SVS is a very defensive person. She often compares her game... when bad. Seriously though, on the fence.

This post is the definition of wishy washy. It would look like someone who is waiting to see if this is going to gain momentum and if you can safely join that wagon. This is the one I saw that made me see why he might find you suspect in this whole scenario. I can't speak to why your first post made him think whatever he thought, but this one that stood out to me.

That said, I don't see anything else that would convince me to vote for you. I don't know that this is a baddie tell really or a cautious civ, so no stress about me voting you anytime soon.

Wishywashyception?

Spacedaisy wrote:So you suspect me zebra?

You pinged me once early on in the game and I haven't forgotten, but you haven't done anything since that I have found suspicious. Right now you would be the last person I would vote for (besides myself of course) but all the same, I can't say I don't suspect you at all. It's just that at this point it's my gut and how eerily little others have suspected you for some time.

I mean there's one baddie left and one GP civ left (moi) so I wouldn't write someone off just because no one else is looking at them.

So unless you've got a re-read analysis for me as well indiglo, I'm assuming you're leaning with a DFaraday vote.

Spacedaisy wrote:Don't get me wrong I think her vote looks really bad, but the behavior of you two is even more so. Which leads me to conclude her claim is true and one of you is desperate to get rid of the other in order to win and the other is just trying to stay alive. One of you knows you don't need either her or me dead, that's any I'm the only one even talking about Indi's vote. You don't want to date your time lynching someone who won't net you a win.

Unless you or indiglo are the last baddie, which is starting to look less and less likely, then you're right.

Spacedaisy wrote:Because ekeknat was killed. It would seem he had an info role based on things he said. And he believed you were gay parade. And you have gone after DF today instead of Indi. can't wrap my brain around why.

I mean it's better than nothing, but it boils down to ekeknat being confident and me not sharing your uneasiness about indiglo's DFaraday vote. Compare that to how shady DF's been acting throughout the entire day with each of his posts and I don't see how there's even a contest.

indiglo wrote:Well that, and try to figure out who is the best person to vote for today.

Who are you leaning towards? DFaraday says I'm the obvious choice, I think he's the obvious choice but I haven't voted yet just in case, and Spacedaisy says your actions look the worst but your posts look the best? Or something?

It's really looking like my vote is going to DFaraday today. SD, I'm curious why you find me suspicious at all. Is it for not suspecting indiglo after that vote? Because I try not to go after people for things they can't defend against. S~V~S and Scotty were different because I was able to get reactions out of both of them in response to my slip accusation. I'm a little unnerved that no one has even considered that you could be the last baddie as well, did I miss some post where you were confirmed civ or what?

The reason that DFaraday used to justify his LC vote was that LC started "suspecting" DFaraday out of nowhere...and now that's exactly what DFaraday is doing to me. I mean, he didn't even say it was a gut read or anything. He just said that I, somehow, MUST be the last GP baddie. Despite having ten posts to fill up he never bothered to use one of them to elaborate on how that's even possible, or how Spacedaisy and indiglo are basically confirmed civs in his eyes. I think that he's hoping his confidence in me being bad will be enough to sway everyone to lynch me instead of him.

I mean seriously. Why would a Coque civilian - regardless of whether or not they care about a GP civ win - vote that early and with that much confidence that they are right when there's fuck-all to warrant that confidence? Why would a GP civilian - the last GP civilian - vote that early and that recklessly when voting for the wrong person and leading to their lynch will result in them and their team losing the entire game after getting this far? Now a GP baddie - the last GP baddie - that makes sense. A desperate attempt to mislynch the actual last GP civilian by making things look bizarrely obvious and hoping enough of the few remaining fall for it to secure the win.

I will be surprised if either SD or indiglo are going to post something bad enough to make me vote for them instead of DFaraday at this point but I'm still going to wait until near the deadline just in case.

DFaraday wrote:Also, why wouldn't it be a fast vote? You and Indi both all but confirmed you're not GP baddies, so I have no reason to vote for either of you. That literally only leaves Zebra.

In what universe? Where is the evidence indicating that they are all but confirmed civilian? Why are you trying to make a difficult lynch appear a simple one?

DFaraday wrote:

Enrique wrote:Non-consecutive, playerino.

I guess I'll just have to spend my whole weekend at my laptop.

Daisy, I don't have any way to prove I'm not teamed with LC. All I can tell you is I'm civ. My sloppy, hardly-paying-attention gameplay throughout this whole game is the best evidence I have that I'm not invested in any team.

"I'm not playing well, therefore I must be civ"

Give me a break.

DFaraday wrote:At this point, I have no reason to consider whom to vote for, so I'll go ahead and vote Zebra right away.

Post 3 of 10

So. Full. Of shit. How could you possibly have no reason to even consider who to vote for? Why is the lynch that obvious to you? You've barely even mentioned me in the entire fucking game before today and now I'm so obviously bad to you that you're outright saying that you don't have reason to fucking CONSIDER anyone else?

DFaraday wrote:Zebra must be a GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated. In which case, I really want Zebra gone.

What about indiglo? Spacedaisy? Yourself? If you think I'm bad then okay, but why are you trying to argue that I somehow MUST be the GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated yet. If this was undeniable fact then why is this not an easy lynch? Why is there even discussion? I don't think you want discussion and that's all that your irrational quick-let's-lynch-Zebra-she-MUST-be-GP mentality is promoting. Sorry, I don't fucking buy it.

DFaraday wrote:I think Ekeknat was right that Zebra is also bad. His going after both of them is probably what got him killed.

Post 1 of 10 in 24 hours (ugh)

This makes zero sense and you're full of shit. Unless I see a post that tops this in obvious bullshit before the end of the day, then you're getting my vote for this alone. I don't care if you call it an OMGUS.

Spacedaisy wrote:Zebra you accused ekeknat of being on a team with LC, what do you make of him being killed?

Obviously I was wrong, and he probably was in fact a GP civ. I don't know why a Coque civ would claim GP civ unless he was really confident in a Coque civ win and wanted to help the GP civs win as well, and the only other possibility is that the GP mafia nk'd one of their own teammates since the other mafia is kapoot.

Spacedaisy wrote:I think Dana most likely was one of their team, or else their third was already dead.

If their third wasn't already dead then Dana had to be one of their team because otherwise that would mean that at the time they had 50% of the vote and therefore no possible reason to bus LC. Because Dana didn't ping me once in the entire game I'm inclined to think that their third was already dead, and now LC is dead too. That means we just need one more GP dead and I can win this with the other two living civs. Problem is I don't trust anyone who's alive one bit, but I also don't have much reason to vote for anyone in particular either.

halp

Okay, Long Con.

There's nothing confusing about it. You're spewing nonsense so people will overthink a Long Con lynch.

You and the guy that you really really really want lynched tomorrow, I swear.

That's literally all this is. Look no further than the back-and-forth between ekeknat and Long Con, it's obvious.

"think about what it means"
"yo, buddy, your trick isn't working"
"HE CONNECTED THE DOTS"

Come on. Neither of them actually believe a word that either of them are saying and it's so blatant it hurts.

linki - Again, watch tomorrow when you inexplicably conclude because of insert-some-made-up-role-thing-related-to-Typhoony-or-some-other-dead-civilian-here that I should be lynched first, then Long Con. If you think I'm going to let you sway town into doing that then you're severely underestimating me.

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm really freaking confused. I went back and realized I was looking at the wrong role for Typh. *sigh* I give up.

You're supposed to be confused. LC and ekeknat are flooding the thread with nonsensical game speculation in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, it will be a good enough distraction to somehow get someone other than LC lynched tomorrow.

You've been somewhat quiet recently Spacedaisy. What are your current thoughts?

ekeknat wrote:I want Long Con lynched.

So if I'm alive tomorrow, and if you're alive tomorrow (you will be since you're bad), and you start talking about how maybe it would actually be an even better idea to lynch me first and then do away with Long Con in the next day phase, you won't protest when I call you out on it?

Okay for real though I'm out. Good game everyone.

Hey LC

Tell me LC who you think these "the ones who killed you" are, because I hope we get them too.

Long Con wrote:Sorry, Made! I should read the roles better, I didn't realize that the Detective gets insanified himself, that's the most obvious reason for multiple insanifications. RIP my friend, I hope we get the ones who killed you!

You are so obviously bad lmao

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Dead Marmot is here.

Oh who am I kidding, there's no one out there. I'm toast, GP mafia/Coque civ win, blah blah blah. Fuck this I'm going to make some pasta.

ekeknat wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Also, if you were GP civ then you wouldn't out yourself as GP civ at this particular point in the game. The Coque civs have essentially already won, I believe all the indys have been eliminated, so now this is just a battle between the GP civs and the GP mafia, where the GP mafia almost certainly outnumber the GP civs. By outing yourself as a GP civ you are essentially throwing the game, and if you were doing that, you wouldn't still be dishing out all this disingenuous speculation.

I'm operating on the power of my optimism here in doing it, and hopefully the Coquelicot civs aren't dickwads about it. Because I do think that would be pretty shitty to do. I mean, really, we've wasted a lot of time in this game, and this is my last chance as a GP civ to be able to win.

But what would the Coque civs have to do with the potential (and likely) consequences of you outing yourself? Tonight is the GP Mafia's kill. If you're GP, then that means that you or I are going to die tonight. It's already confirmed that I'm GP because I was insanified, but you had no reason to out yourself as GP. To me that means that you're GP mafia putting on an act and I'll be dead tonight, or maybe another GP besides me that's still alive...but that's unlikely.

a2thezebra wrote:

ekeknat wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Whose interactions with Black Rock?

zebra's

This makes zero sense as BR was a Coque baddie and they've all been eliminated. So how do my interactions with a confirmed baddie of a team that has been wiped out implicate me as anything in particular?

The things BR was saying about you were true, regardless of what she actually ended up flipping. To quote her:

Black Rock wrote:I never said you're not reading through posts with a neutral mind. Typhoony wanted you to and I said you won't. I think you're a gay parade baddie. That goes without saying since you were insanified. I think you're hoping SVS was right about me, I know she did not have info on me cause she was wrong about my role. I think you think if I flip bad you will be safe. What I will flip will not help you what so ever. The more you keep pushing the more I'm convinced. You're taking the wrong path, and you don't care. As long as everyone is looking where you point you're happy.

I think this is absolutely true, and just because she said it doesn't mean it isn't true. We all knew she was bad at this point

But just because she said it and we all knew she was bad (which is bullshit, I didn't "know" she was bad at that point and I think most didn't either) doesn't mean that it is true as well. This just further affirms my opinion that you're just using anything you can to throw cheap shade on me. Tonight you advocate Long Con's lynch, then mine; tomorrow you will advocate my lynch, then Long Con's. That's of course if I'm not dead.

linki -

1. That's not true and you know it. You outing yourself not only doesn't help the chances of a GP civ win, it lowers it. Assuming you are somehow civ you just put a target on your back during the fucking night of the GP mafia's kill and we can't afford to lose anyone else. Not outing yourself would buy time since there are only kills every second night now and we could probably nab the GP baddies one at a time by lynching them, starting with Long Con. Outing yourself has no possible benefit to the GP civ cause, you're not fooling anyone.

2. You expect me to fall for your bullshit when you say "why not" when I bring up the implication that you're saving Long Con by throwing as much shade on me as possible at a time when he's the only realistic lynch option otherwise?

3. Sure you do. You think we're teammates but I clearly want him to be lynched too. What a convincing defense that isn't hypocritical whatsoever. Give me a break and just kill me already.

linki 2 - You are so full of shit it hurts. This all-caps last-chance-to-win nonsense is just aggravating. YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE. YOU KNOW THAT OUTING YOURSELF SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERS THE CHANCES OF AN ALREADY UNLIKELY GP CIV WIN. YET YOU DID IT ANYWAY. GO AHEAD AND SPOUT AS MANY FALSE MISLEADING NARRATIVES AS YOU WANT, YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ME AND IF BY CHANCE THERE'S ANOTHER GP CIV OUT THERE THEN YOU'RE NOT FOOLING THEM EITHER. Bottom line, you're not getting away with this. Long Con's going, you're next, hopefully that will be it. End of story. Good night and good luck, whoever might be out there.

If you were actually a GP civ you would not

1. Out yourself as a GP civ at a point in the game where doing so could and most likely would cost you and all the other dead GP civs the game.
2. Constantly go back-and-forth with Long Con and then advocate my lynch the night before his lynch would be a no-brainer.
3. Say that my interactions with BR mean anything regarding my alignment. Also, why save points like that for right now? Because if you don't fling as much shit as possible then your teammate is going to be lynched and you'll be next.

See this shows me how obvious it is that you're just pulling accusations out of thin air, anything that you think will work, to get me lynched tomorrow instead of you or - the obvious choice - Long Con.

ekeknat wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Whose interactions with Black Rock?

zebra's

This makes zero sense as BR was a Coque baddie and they've all been eliminated. So how do my interactions with a confirmed baddie of a team that has been wiped out implicate me as anything in particular?

Also, if you were GP civ then you wouldn't out yourself as GP civ at this particular point in the game. The Coque civs have essentially already won, I believe all the indys have been eliminated, so now this is just a battle between the GP civs and the GP mafia, where the GP mafia almost certainly outnumber the GP civs. By outing yourself as a GP civ you are essentially throwing the game, and if you were doing that, you wouldn't still be dishing out all this disingenuous speculation.

ekeknat wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:This essentially proves to me that you're Long Con's teammate. You won't talk about anyone else but him for five+ phases with little to no mention of me besides a flimsy-at-best teammate suggestion, and then when push comes to shove you say I should be lynched instead of him. Typical.

I would loooooove to get him out first. Doesn't mean I don't want you both out!

You said to lynch him first if you die tonight. What - and I know this is crazy - what if you don't? Will you be surprised? I won't.

This essentially proves to me that you're Long Con's teammate. You won't talk about anyone else but him for five+ phases with little to no mention of me besides a flimsy-at-best teammate suggestion, and then when push comes to shove you say I should be lynched instead of him. Typical.

So can we lynch Long Con tomorrow? His lynch is now seven days overdue.

Fuck.

You're civ huh.