The Syndicate

I just realized that Matt got lynched on the first day, and the final day. That's funny.

Matt wrote:Zebra - What was up with you outing yourself? You won, so good strategy (?), just wondering haha.

I outed myself because I could tell that the other players would start finding more and more connections to me and bcornett/Enrique, and so I felt that DrWilgy would have a better chance to make it to end game if I outed myself and left a bunch of red herrings and breadcrumb trails leading in the wrong directions. It seemed to have worked, I doubt we would have made it if I was alive the last few phases.

Wilgy, the evil one of the forest. The eye of madness. The dark malevolater. The violator of all creatures. The hearth of tears. The harbinger of disaster. The small of peen. You da man, I knew I could count on you to make it to the end.

Great game everyone!

And we said "nay, we are but Hutts!"

I, too, am seeing Star Wars tomorrow.

Ricochet wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Like I need a 30 minute video to tell me the prequel movies sucked.

This guy has not seen the Plinkett Reviews. Lynch him.

It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on.

MacDougall wrote:All in all the Hutts killed those who slighted them, bussed the fuck out of each other, distanced from each other. They were savage.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ra ra ra

Rezz please.

I'm sorry MM

Gotta gotta gotta gotta keep remind these live folks.

It is my pleasure to join you in death.

Best of luck to the Rebel Alliance and DOWN WITH THE EMPIRE!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ra ra ra

Rezz please.

I'm sorry MM

There's a good 20-ish hours until the day ends. I will stay silent until DH makes a decision out of respect.

I figure I'm at the end of the rope and after considering every possibility, I don't see how it will effect the game in any negative or unfair way. That being said, I won't object to being modkilled for it at all, since I understand why those rules exist and must be enforced.

I won't mind being lynched, like I said. I've pretty much offered up all the useful Empire-hunting information I have as a Hutt already, and my death is eminent whether it's today or tomorrow.

Dom wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Possible. But that would mean Zebra is still partnered in the game and has role revealed like this without being at desperate wits end. I dunno... I'm inclined to assume Zebra is alone.

I guess this is a good reason to eliminate her. At least that way we'll know whether she really is alone and can focus our efforts on Empire, or actually find the last Hutt. It'd be nice to have her killing power, but alas I think perhaps it's better to know the state of that team?

This is where this line of thinking has led me as well.

I don't think sig was Crumb.

sig was Bib, I'm Crumb.

Dom wrote:I find her reversals on two Hutts very suspect. Enrique and Zebra-- both Hutts, Sorsha went from thinking both were civ until mysteriously they were bad. And as Zebra has melted down, she has disappeared now... perhaps she really is Crumb.


Canuck, I'd never ask you to ISO her when cursed.

I was just gone to get some Gardetto's.

Canucklehead wrote:

Dom wrote:Canuck, I don't want to make this too difficult on you, but who do you think is a good lynch alternative today?

Trusting Z is hard, you know,
But I liked her (brief) case on Eloh.
Wilgy also seems to fit
If we've got lurker Empire shits.
But would MP allow his team
To be as absent as Wilgy's been?
I know that I have said before
"Daisy or MP, it's either/or"
But I think we should not disregard
That she could have bussed her hubby hard.
Of all of these I have to say
I think Eloh's my choice for today.
Her constant claims of lack of skill
Just rub me wrong, and make me ill.
Now that her names come up a bit
She's scrambling as if in a fit
Because she's done no work all game
At finding scum, just faking "lame".
I'd like to hear from others', though,
As I'm not convinced of where to go.
Eloh, Wilgy, or SD.
Any might be fine with me.

Silent Night holy night

This is a work of art, to see things such as this is the reason I play mafia.

I was trying to push the idea that Sorsha was Crumb for a while, but I'm neutral on her in reality.

Canucklehead wrote:I'm kinda pissed my zebra hunting work
Is useless now she's gone berserk
But I agree we're best to let her smirk
And help us take down empire jerks.

Rudolph the red nosed reindeer

It wasn't useless, it was the catalyst for me going berserk in the first place.

I just died in two other games within the span of three minutes. Bring it on, Empire!

Hurry up everyone we only have 24 hourz

Peace

Matt wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Matt wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

MacDougall wrote:That post you quoted of Elohcin's where she said she hates vote manipulation sounds like a soft claim of the Mon Mothma role.

I interpreted it as her trying to distance herself from the result of MP being saved.

linki @ Matt - I know at Tatooine the Hutts were the only ones who were able to buy votes that other players were offering, and that's probably the main reason you got lynched Day 1. :P

But guess who still made it to the Death Star?

Anyway, my point is, if so, that means the Death Star probably has something cool for the Empire going as well. Who else thinks the Empire picked Death Star as their exploding location? That would be clever.

Valid point but interesting that you thought of it? What made you think of it?

Zebra acting funny made me think of it. Made me think she's Empire and that there's some kind of trick against people who vote for her.

Then I remembered there was some planet where I think the Jawa's publicly were awarded something, though I may be misremembering.

I dunno, this whole Zebra situation is weird and I don't like it.

Maybe that's just what I want you to think so I can live another day.

Matt wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

MacDougall wrote:That post you quoted of Elohcin's where she said she hates vote manipulation sounds like a soft claim of the Mon Mothma role.

I interpreted it as her trying to distance herself from the result of MP being saved.

linki @ Matt - I know at Tatooine the Hutts were the only ones who were able to buy votes that other players were offering, and that's probably the main reason you got lynched Day 1. :P

But guess who still made it to the Death Star?

Anyway, my point is, if so, that means the Death Star probably has something cool for the Empire going as well. Who else thinks the Empire picked Death Star as their exploding location? That would be clever.

Clever and likely. As far as I know, no one has died for being the last to vote yet.

MacDougall wrote:That post you quoted of Elohcin's where she said she hates vote manipulation sounds like a soft claim of the Mon Mothma role.

I interpreted it as her trying to distance herself from the result of MP being saved.

linki @ Matt - I know at Tatooine the Hutts were the only ones who were able to buy votes that other players were offering, and that's probably the main reason you got lynched Day 1. :P

Matt wrote:I don't get why Zebra is admitting to being a Hutt.

Also, DEATH STAR!!!

I have to vote in less then an hour. Kinda want to vote for Zebra. No offense, I like the idea of a bad guy workin' with the civs openly but it kinda scares me too like there's trickery involved.

Hmm

Like I said, I don't have beef with anyone voting for me today. When I took credit for llama's death I expected it would be a unanimous vote for me to be lynched and most would vote at the beginning of the day, so I'm still surprised other options are being considered. I don't care either way as long as Empire doesn't win the game, since I'm not going to win anyway. That is my one and only priority at this point. I genuinely don't understand how anyone read me as anything but a confirmed baddie after I posted this:

a2thezebra wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:That's the point sig, so MP can stop being nice to me and stop getting himself lynched.

Lol, I'll never stop getting lynched.

I feel you there. For what it's worth, I'll be surprised if I'm not next tomorrow once Canuck finishes that ISO.

MacDougall wrote:Oh and we haven't heard a yoda quip in some time so one of our night deaths was likely him.

I thought you were Yoda for the longest time. Any idea who he really was?

Elohcin wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elo, you said you believe the people talking the most are civilian. Why? Also, you brought up mafia lying about real life; is there something specific in this thread that you are referring to, or was this just a commentary on what you've seen in general? I got a bit lost there.

I think so b/c they haven't done anything to ping me thus far. Except for Mac bringing up Matt's out of character behavior. The real life comment was only referring to previous games. I was only expanding upon the conversation on off-topic posts and whether they should be considered when suspecting someone.

well, lots of linki as I was all ready to post this and then Epi came in here to distract me for a little while. I'll read more after dinner.

This interaction doesn't seem genuine to me in hindsight of MP's flip.

Elohcin wrote:I am voting for Zebra. I don't feel like her vote for Bass is genuine.

What's funny is that despite my alignment, my vote for Bass totally was genuine. I legitimately thought he was Empire.

Elohcin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:This is your third. Post.

Yeah, but she makes a good point. Actually, I think I made that very point yesterday. Voting Zebra too.

I guess I should say that on Day 3, someone who may or may not be Crumb and may or may not be me, forced Eloh to only make posts responding to me and about me. In fact, I was the only player she could mention by name (yet she still had the nerve to say Bass at one point!)

Elohcin wrote: Linki MP: I'm going to double check, but I don;t think I ever said anything about zebra being manipulative, only quiet. I do remember someone else saying she was being manipulative though

limki MP, again: What are your thoughts on Roxy?

More interactions with MP. This seems more genuine than the last time they interacted, but the jury's still out.

Elohcin wrote:I hate lynch manipulations.

This is hella fake.

Elohcin wrote: Wow, I'm shocked that MP was bad. I really thought he was good this game. I'm very horrible at discerning who is good and who is bad.

This is even faker!

Yeah, I'm sold. I'm still slightly more confident about Bullzeye and DrWilgy, but this is pretty damning stuff.

Yay only 54 posts!

MacDougall wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I see. I'm willing to accept that since at least in Blooper's case I've been town-reading him for a while, and in Russ' case I've been doubting my baddie read of him since he began to lose prominence in the game. It's most likely that the lurkers are the last members of Empire. Bullzeye, DrWilgy, maaaaaaybe Eloh but I'm less certain about her.

Okay in the interest of analysis, I humbly request that you ISO Elohcin.

Will do.

I see. I'm willing to accept that since at least in Blooper's case I've been town-reading him for a while, and in Russ' case I've been doubting my baddie read of him since he began to lose prominence in the game. It's most likely that the lurkers are the last members of Empire. Bullzeye, DrWilgy, maaaaaaybe Eloh but I'm less certain about her.

Huh.

DFaraday wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:DFar, you said you didn't find anyone in particular on your wagon yesterday to be suspicious, right? But you also said that you felt it was likely that at least one of them was scum. Any idea who?

After doing those ISOs, Wilgy came across as potentially bad to me. And Bullz, who's either hoodwinked civ or totally transparent Empire.

Russ and Bubbles are probably okay.

I agree, although I'm not so sure about Russ.

DFar, you said you didn't find anyone in particular on your wagon yesterday to be suspicious, right? But you also said that you felt it was likely that at least one of them was scum. Any idea who?

llama said even more blatantly that he didn't want MP lynched. I think they were blatant because they thought they had a chance with one of the counterwagons that day. Indy DFaraday or Spacedaisy.

Those are all good points. I still think Bullzeye is the most likely option for an Empire lynch.

MacDougall wrote:Tbh I'm a bit of a strange brew. I could be convinced to leave Zebra around and use her as an every other day night vig lol. We can just lynch her the minute she becomes a problem. She seems happy to take shots at Empire target so why the hell not?

Playing it this way also will force Empire to consider killing her instead of a civ/indie tonight too imo.

This is also worth noting. You don't have to believe me but I'll say anyway that at this point I really am aligned with the civs, all because they have the best chance at getting rid of Empire. We've been trying to go after Empire specifically for our night kills since the very beginning of the game.

MacDougall wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I'm not going to confirm or deny that I'm alone directly, but anyone who goes through my recent post history knowing my alignment should be able to figure it out pretty easily.

Lol you would be wise to tell us because if there is any chance you aren't, then you are getting lynched.

I feel a direct answer would be pointless since nothing I will say can be proven and most likely won't be believed, for perfectly good reason. And like I said, I wouldn't protest me being lynched, it's bound to happen eventually since I can't magically make my win condition the same as you Jedi folk. The reason I've been continuously saying that I'm civ (which I am) is to see who believes it and doesn't believe it, and how other players react to it in general. I think I could identify some baddie behavior by spotting players that are cautious in reading me as anything but a confirmed baddie, but now that strategy is essentially void. I wouldn't doubt that you could analyze how players have interacted with me since the beginning of Day 7 and find Empire that way, but observing everyone myself I didn't see anything stick out.

linki@DFaraday - Oh believe me, I want Empire fucking dead. If I seem like I'm trolling everyone that's because I've adopted a more carefree attitude since losing hope in my own win condition. Why do you doubt that Daisy is Empire?

I'm not going to confirm or deny that I'm alone directly, but anyone who goes through my recent post history knowing my alignment should be able to figure it out pretty easily.

It's certainly not me, I'm civilian.

Not too blatant, in my opinion.

linki - I wouldn't protest to that, in fact I'm amazed that any other option is even being considered. I'm down for anything.