The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:48 pm very good game wolves! yall dominated for sure.

happy to have played with @Syn and @Le petit poussin ! excited for our next game

sorry i questioned you wilgy >.>
dunya doesn't like the rest of us ofc.

obv.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:48 pm very good game wolves! yall dominated for sure.
nothing says "all my town reads were scum" better than declining a champs nomination immediately after getting spoiled

i wasn't spoiled, actually.

@dyachei how about you never wolf against me plskthx <3

sorry @Creature but karma's a bitch and i got my penance on d2

very good game wolves! yall dominated for sure.

happy to have played with @Syn and @Le petit poussin ! excited for our next game

sorry i questioned you wilgy >.>

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:56 pm Duyna Voters: Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy, TonyStarkPrime, Marmot, Dunya
LP Voters: HK, Scotty
TSP Voters: Le petit poussin, dunya, Urist, NotAnAxehole, LinearPoint, Syn
i'm not voting for myself!

i think you meant DOLBY

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:56 pm Duyna Voters: Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy, TonyStarkPrime, Marmot, Dunya
LP Voters: HK, Scotty
TSP Voters: Le petit poussin, dunya, Urist, NotAnAxehole, LinearPoint, Syn

i'm not voting for myself!

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:52 pm Dunia and LP don't want the other to die, but are seemingly happy to kill anyone else instead

except cute fuzzy animals, like yourself!

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:48 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:47 pm I'm switching back to Dunya in 8 minutes
What I would kill to force you to stop changing votes and just stay on me.

pls no harming of cute animals

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:45 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:44 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.
you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation
consistency is good.

she changed her tune on me, at least.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:33 pm IDK why “nothing changed in the game state and nothing changed in your reads either” is presented as a problem
tunneling is bad and counterproductive in a team mafia game.
consistency, actually, bad

tunneling is bad because it's like a fake red check that hurts others productivity.

having consistent reads where there's progression and growth, maybe stronger scum reads develop, is good.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:42 pm I dont understand what you're asking me

it doesn't matter anymore.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.
you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

consistency is good.

she changed her tune on me, at least.

glgl

sorry for creature's miselim, but not sorry about anything else tbh.

no, i'm not gonna keep up with this. i know the case on me by jack and have tried to reason with him because it's all based on false interpretations and narratives. there's no case, because he MISREPRESENTED what happened sod2.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:38 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:34 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:12 pm [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

You seem determined

Care to elaborate on your confidence?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm scotty seems so confident

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm i cant vote scotty, sorry syn

and sorry @creature for being such a big part in your misyeet

[VOTE: jack] aubergine
This series of posts from Dunya is a joke, right?

I’m at the point of auto yeeting her if Scotty flips wolf.
Did you just iso me or read thread context why I voted Scotty?

I town read him yesterday, came into today feeling like a big loser, voted with Syn, then decided I couldn't cos I town read him.

I don't understand how so many people are missing that. I never said Scotty did x that was scummy.
That doesn't enter into it at all but okay.
wat enters into it then?

explain why me and scotty are w/w
Because your "I'll vote whoever Syn says" lasted five seconds, your reinforced townread on Scotty didn't rely on you having like...read the things Scotty said and in spite of the much confident very townie scumread Scotty had on you, that also evaporated as soon as you started getting serious pressure. You both look dishonest af wrt each other. Ergo w/w.

i explained i townread scotty d1, entering d2 didn't change that. it didn't evaporate cos the scumread never existed, i was following syn for 5 seconds.

ergo, again, jack is tunneled and misrepresenting me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:33 pm IDK why “nothing changed in the game state and nothing changed in your reads either” is presented as a problem

tunneling is bad and counterproductive in a team mafia game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:34 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:12 pm [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

You seem determined

Care to elaborate on your confidence?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm scotty seems so confident

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm i cant vote scotty, sorry syn

and sorry @creature for being such a big part in your misyeet

[VOTE: jack] aubergine
This series of posts from Dunya is a joke, right?

I’m at the point of auto yeeting her if Scotty flips wolf.
Did you just iso me or read thread context why I voted Scotty?

I town read him yesterday, came into today feeling like a big loser, voted with Syn, then decided I couldn't cos I town read him.

I don't understand how so many people are missing that. I never said Scotty did x that was scummy.
That doesn't enter into it at all but okay.

@Marmot -- for example, how is this helpful?

why not ask me what "enters" into it instead and give me a chance to explain myself.

why do i have to go into his brain and understand what goes into it when what he said is what i defended against.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:51 pm I'll feel kinda personally bad if Dunya is town here but like I'm just doing the best I can with what I got and I see what looks like Dunya/Scotty w/w.

in posts that aged so well they didn't change in 40hrs of content

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:30 pm I also really do not think having a tied vote is advantageous. it just guarantees a Town lynch and wont really help in narrowing things down as it'll just be questions why the other wasn't chosen for a lynch and probably just end in their lynch the next day.

i agree, feel free to vote for me to break the tie. when i flip town, hopefully they'll give you some leeway.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:32 pm Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business
Yes, the classic play wherein the wolfteam combines to try to misyeet town Dunya D2.

Weren't you voting Dunya earlier? Now she's town.

The Dunya/Scotty mutual read progressions read super awkward.

the confidence here is like jack has a red check on me, and made me feel like he's talking crap just to build a false narrative. the tunnel begins.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:40 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:20 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:17 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm i cant vote scotty, sorry syn

and sorry @creature for being such a big part in your misyeet

[VOTE: jack] aubergine
Why can’t you vote me?
cos you're bleedingly town to me.
mfw I say you're in shit if scotty flips wolf and suddenly scotty is bleedingly town and you'll never vote him
Yeh

again, i felt misrepresented by syn's narrative here because he suspects me and that's fine

but scotty was a town read d1 and it spilled into d2 without any reason to change.

but apparently, i'm only townreading scotty cos syn said if scotty flipped wolf it would look terrible for me? nope.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:34 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:12 pm [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

You seem determined

Care to elaborate on your confidence?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm scotty seems so confident

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 pm i cant vote scotty, sorry syn

and sorry @creature for being such a big part in your misyeet

[VOTE: jack] aubergine
This series of posts from Dunya is a joke, right?

I’m at the point of auto yeeting her if Scotty flips wolf.

it all started here where jack misunderstood why i voted and unvoted scotty, i did explain myself, but jack didn't buy it.

(i am reading the iso to see if there is something grand that i missed)

(it is a painful exercise)

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:18 pm did naa just switch without saying anything

he's experimenting how he can not get yeeted by not making any posts in the last 24hrs of day 2.

- i yeeted creature

things dunia is guilty of sod2

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:13 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:10 pm i don't even know *why* jack thinks i'm mafia, if that's crazy.
That's....

Let's call it suboptimal. You should know why I suspect you.

i don't. you think im compatible with a bunch of people, and i think that's a strategy some people use which is, let's call it "suboptimal" before a flip.

but why am i individually wolf? is there a tldr cos all his "DUNYA IS BLEEDINGLY MAFIA WITH SCOTTY" posts i've kinda glazed over ngl.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:10 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:08 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:05 pm Honestly Duyna Mafia would also just vote me tbh. So I don't see a world where she is Mafia as she's banking really hard on it remaining tied if that is the case.
if you flip wolf, i'm withdrawing from representing champs this year lol. this game would have been a trainwreck for me ngl. it already is.
Same tbh.
This day will not end in anything but a Town lynch as it's very clear the top 2 wagons are Town.
There really isn't a world where you act like you are right now and be Mafia.

no, but there is a world you flip mafia and i get eggs thrown in my face :P

i'm willing to die on that hill like a woman though.

i don't even know *why* jack thinks i'm mafia, if that's crazy.

i still think wilgy is a hit, if anyone's willing to go there. last chance.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:05 pm Honestly Duyna Mafia would also just vote me tbh. So I don't see a world where she is Mafia as she's banking really hard on it remaining tied if that is the case.

if you flip wolf, i'm withdrawing from representing champs this year lol. this game would have been a trainwreck for me ngl. it already is.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:04 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53 pm Some things might change if she flips wolf but I'll still be in a wolf Dunya world, which leaves a lot of my world similar.
sounds like a you problem tbh

if you're town, you've negatively impacted me this whole day phase and rather than work with a t!dunya, you've exhausted my energy. if you're a wolf, gg.
I am playing the game to the best of my ability. You're never gonna convince me of anything with ATE.
im saying you're TUNNELLED and have caused me to waste all my game energy DEFENDING or DEFLECTING suspicion

TUNNELLED whether you're town or mafia, you are in TUNNEL LAND

Tbf, you've also complained that when JJJ suspects you, he stops engaging with his read on you and tells you to go about your business, so I'm not sure which you prefer.
Obviously, Jay's attention is more fulfilling than mine, which is just aggravating.

you are not being nice.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53 pm Some things might change if she flips wolf but I'll still be in a wolf Dunya world, which leaves a lot of my world similar.
sounds like a you problem tbh

if you're town, you've negatively impacted me this whole day phase and rather than work with a t!dunya, you've exhausted my energy. if you're a wolf, gg.
I am playing the game to the best of my ability. You're never gonna convince me of anything with ATE.
im saying you're TUNNELLED and have caused me to waste all my game energy DEFENDING or DEFLECTING suspicion

TUNNELLED whether you're town or mafia, you are in TUNNEL LAND

Tbf, you've also complained that when JJJ suspects you, he stops engaging with his read on you and tells you to go about your business, so I'm not sure which you prefer.

something in between demanding of me i go find scum for him to change his read on me, and tunneling me for 48hrs straight.

just a middle ground. it's there. it exists.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:59 pm dunya/lp/urist/tsp would be a funny world though bc it means that they're all trying to bus or spew tsp and miserably failing in both goals

i can't even recall the last time i lost as mafia on TS. i dunno if such a game exists.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:58 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:57 pm [dunya]vote[/dunya]
marmot, desparately trying to place a legal vote before eod, and ultimately losing the game bc he cant

If I accidentally self-vote in lylo, is it locked in?

the poll is the legal vote, in thread votes are just a courtesy dw marmot

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53 pm Some things might change if she flips wolf but I'll still be in a wolf Dunya world, which leaves a lot of my world similar.
sounds like a you problem tbh

if you're town, you've negatively impacted me this whole day phase and rather than work with a t!dunya, you've exhausted my energy. if you're a wolf, gg.
I am playing the game to the best of my ability. You're never gonna convince me of anything with ATE.

im saying you're TUNNELLED and have caused me to waste all my game energy DEFENDING or DEFLECTING suspicion

TUNNELLED whether you're town or mafia, you are in TUNNEL LAND

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:54 pm Remember that time Urist laid out a lot of reasons for townreading Dunya and then they were dismantled one by one and then he was like "Mhmm mhmm mhmm. I hear you and I still townread Dunya for raisens"

That was a great moment from earlier in the game

what when did this happen

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53 pm Some things might change if she flips wolf but I'll still be in a wolf Dunya world, which leaves a lot of my world similar.

sounds like a you problem tbh

if you're town, you've negatively impacted me this whole day phase and rather than work with a t!dunya, you've exhausted my energy. if you're a wolf, gg.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:52 pm I'm actually a little confused that dunya is willing to vote TSP or NAA, but not willing to vote or kill LP, but she is willing to force a tie between herself and LP.

im actually confused by myself too atp

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

let it rand between me and LP like the mafia destined 48hrs ago

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:42 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 pm Dunya/Dya/Scotty/Urist.

That's like for postgame cred.
straight up I do not think dya pairs with anyone who's been wagoned today

scotty and urist haven't been wagoned today so you're saying they don't pair with me only?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:38 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:37 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:20 pm @dunya

what do you think about me
10/10 human, who i love deeply
He will prolly vote u for this

i'm counting on it

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:21 pm in the game, not as a person

town. my consistently strongest town read. clear desire to solve, questions that i see reasons behind, mind melded a few times, no clear agenda, consistent town reads that move with good progression and vice versa.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:20 pm @dunya

what do you think about me

10/10 human, who i love deeply

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:10 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:06 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:04 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:03 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:02 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm From reading NAA's ISO

He spent a good portion of Day 1 pushing Scotty because Scotty "has a towntell and is scum until he does his towntell". He also pushed Mac for things like well no reason in particular

This push on Scotty has stretched into Day 2, and with the number of times I've seen him talk about Scotty, I do think this effort is played up a little too much. NAA has made 219 posts, and 72 of them contain mentions of Scotty, or responses to Scotty. Yes I counted, that's almost a third of them.

Anyway, most of that happened Day 1. NAA pulled back his scumread because Scotty towntold (I guess?). That said, he has looked elsewhere and considered other options.

Probably the main thing that worries me right now is that he had like 200 posts in the first 1.5 days of this game (36 hours), and only 12 in the last 12 hours, which also coincides with his decision that Scotty was town.

I dunno, I find his content very hard to glean alignment from. Thanks Syn.
why Marmot?
I meant why do you find it hard to glean an alignment?

Because he says stuff that he doesn't believe (or stuff that doesn't look like something I think he would believe) as town all the time, so trying to call him scum for that in particular is foolish imo.
ok. to why are you even trying? He looks town to me. (like seriously what poor wolf play that would be?)
why would it be poor wolf play, no one's pressured him until right now
it's D2 and he is about to eat the yeet? I mean, pls Syn

psht

i've been at l-1 about 7 times in the last 24hrs

i take nothing for granted in this game

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:05 pm please just yeet my scumread.

I'm begging ya'll
I tried that earlier. didn't work. This thread hates begging
treat the thread like you would a woman you're interested in

grimace

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:07 pm
Spoiler: show
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:09 pm And if they don’t they retroactively will claim they do after Dunya flips wolf
I suppose Dunya and LP could be aligned

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:13 pm I kind of agree that tsp/LP isn't wolf/town

But LP could be wolf with town tsp, wolf wolf also possible

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:14 pm Also, LP pushing TSP makes LP wolf more likely.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:06 am Urist is a very plausible partner for LP btw.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:06 am Actually Dunya fits that team too... In a very weird way.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:18 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:17 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:12 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:00 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:10 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:08 am This game is frustrating me to no end

you're a bad person
You're right, I need to stop partially explaining to people how the sausage is made.
I got another one for your to parse if you’d be so kind:
Monkey Island

I think just more sample sizes would help me figure this put
Ok, I'll do my best to not spoil myself to keep the experience authentic.

@Jackofhearts2005 do you have a high post count mafia game I can look at?

@dunya here are all the places that NAA looked after he determined that Scotty was town.

Mainly the two main wagons in dunya/LP, and also Jack briefly.

thanks a lot

perhaps it's bias on my end, but this justifies me voting for him in retaliation

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

@Marmot : where has NAA looked after scotty towntold?

i could literally see scotty and naa teamed and that whole thing was a whole experiment on NAA's part, ngl

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:59 pm nobody I like is on the dunia wagon

oh shit [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

how about now, in theory?

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