The Syndicate

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:18 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:23 pm
YOU CAN’T TAKE THE TRUTH!
My favorite post from glorfindel

Thank you, my friend. You played very well and I enjoyed playing this game with you very much. Again, I’m very sorry that I suspected you

Thanks for hosting the game, Epi. Congrats to the OutWorld Team and thank you all for having me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:17 am Wow, a resurrection! Rare. I like them.

RIP Glorf my friend!

I do actually feel like death warmed up right now, my friend - I hope your comment isn’t prophetic...

I had already outlived my usefulness and am happy to leave now. Good luck to you all - please don’t let my efforts here have been in vain.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:39 am One of Jimmy and Marmot should be bad.

Best case? Like case duel each other.

@Glorfindel

Are you 100% sure Lap is town?

Yes

Sorry guys. I am currently sick as a dog - sicker, actually. I’m kinda out for now will try to get back and catch up sometime. Sorry

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:40 pm I guess I like the Simon voters more. I'll go there. I think they're both bad. I have no real preference. Here's another short sentence. And another one. I can only make these. Because my cat is on my keyboard.

You’ve taken your cat on a cruise to New Zealand? WTF?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:11 pm One thing that is blindingly clear:

If Simon is mafia then lapluie is not.

Lapluie is NOT Mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:50 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:08 pm @Glorfindel
@Marmot
@Made
@Long Con

Come back to kick butt thx
Sup fam!

I will begrudgingly get on board with a nutella lynch, but I really fear that following lapluie's advice again is going to turn out like Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's football.

If nutella flips Civ, I'll be voting lapluie forever.

No you won’t LC - she’s one of us.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm Its best to lynch mafia players who are still active now, rather than an inactive player imo.
That's a fair argument. I would consider them both to be active at least in that they can send night actions. You'll note that Simon voted late in the last day phase, and for you.

I voted for Lapluie too and I was wrong. I don’t think Simon making a wrong choice particularly in that instance (sorry, Lapluie) wasn’t necessarily understandable.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:07 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:06 pm You guys don't actually think Simon's is bad, youre voting him off because he's inactive, there's no real evidence that he's mafia, the real evidence is in nutella.
Tony was very adamant in nutella being bad.
But I feel like I'm talking to myself now & nobody's listening so ...rip....
What if there's very similar evidence against Simon as there is against nutella?
There is no case against simon, I for one am certain simon isn't bad, there's no reason to even lynch him. He's inactive!!!!

=/

I don’t share your level of certainty, my friend but I’d wager that your assessment of the situation is correct. At this point of the game with our numbers (theoretically, at least) approaching balance, I’m especially wary of ‘easy options’ like Simon.

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:34 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:05 pm speedchuck was made aware of your reputation early in the game. If he was here and did not heed your yells to save LC, that isn't great. Marmot knows you well as a long-time veteran of the site. If he was here and did not heed your yells to save LC, that's even worse. I'll have to go back and check whether either of them were present at the very end.
speedchuck's last post prior to the deadline came a few hours ahead. He posted pretty soon after the TSP flip though. It's possible he was present, but he didn't post.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:34 pm Quick take.

Long Con has been apathetic all day, and eventually voted lap for self-preservation.

lap is giving what looks like a sincere defence, but is suddenly willing to lynch speedchuck despite not having any reason to. I get self-preservation, but guilting another player into lynching one of their scum-reads.
Marmot was here at EOD. He acknowledged Glorfindel's yelling but did not heed it. He kept asking "why", which is a bit obtuse I think given the rules of the game.

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Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:38 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:37 pm And there we have it - our Mafia voting for the confirmed Townie (LC)
Who's a confirmed townie?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:41 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 pm LC is confirmed Town you fools

I DON’T LIE!
WHY??

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:41 pm This is the most embarrassing EOD I've ever seen and I'm sorry I didn't break the tie... but I still think tony is more likely bad than lap. If LC dies because of this though... jesus christ you guys
What do you and Glorfindel know about Long Con that we don't?

Not a good look.
What you say here about Marmot rings true, Jay. He did appear to me to be far too hard to convince under the circumstances.

Also, apologies to you Lapluie. Jay has made me see the light.
Thank you glorf! I'm sorry as well for poor behaviours last night.

what are your thoughts on Tony claims about nutella?

I’d have to go back and check. I can certainly see Nutella as being Mafia. And if read what you said earlier correctly, I agree - the whole Simon thing seems like a bad deal to me and I am skeptical of anyone pushing that agenda right now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:11 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:05 pm speedchuck was made aware of your reputation early in the game. If he was here and did not heed your yells to save LC, that isn't great. Marmot knows you well as a long-time veteran of the site. If he was here and did not heed your yells to save LC, that's even worse. I'll have to go back and check whether either of them were present at the very end.
speedchuck's last post prior to the deadline came a few hours ahead. He posted pretty soon after the TSP flip though. It's possible he was present, but he didn't post.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:34 pm Quick take.

Long Con has been apathetic all day, and eventually voted lap for self-preservation.

lap is giving what looks like a sincere defence, but is suddenly willing to lynch speedchuck despite not having any reason to. I get self-preservation, but guilting another player into lynching one of their scum-reads.
Marmot was here at EOD. He acknowledged Glorfindel's yelling but did not heed it. He kept asking "why", which is a bit obtuse I think given the rules of the game.

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Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:38 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:37 pm And there we have it - our Mafia voting for the confirmed Townie (LC)
Who's a confirmed townie?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:41 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 pm LC is confirmed Town you fools

I DON’T LIE!
WHY??

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:41 pm This is the most embarrassing EOD I've ever seen and I'm sorry I didn't break the tie... but I still think tony is more likely bad than lap. If LC dies because of this though... jesus christ you guys
What do you and Glorfindel know about Long Con that we don't?

Not a good look.

What you say here about Marmot rings true, Jay. He did appear to me to be far too hard to convince under the circumstances.

Also, apologies to you Lapluie. Jay has made me see the light.

Kyle was Outworld?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:11 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:05 pm If by your last question Jay, you mean someone else that I knew for certain to be a Townie, no.
I can understand why you'd be perturbed given your strong civilian read on Long Con. Whatever brings you to that read, consider how others are going to approach Long Con without the same rationale in mind that you have in yours. He hasn't done very much in this game. He's flown under the radar. I think it's fair to suspect him in the absence of special insight. In lapluie's case, I am pretty sure Long Con voted for her in a tally which could have easily destroyed her. He moved to TSP in the end, but for a long stretch he was on lapluie. Play devil's advocate with yourself and assume lapluie is a civilian -- how is she likely to respond when an under-the-radar Long Con is trying to get her lynched close to EOD?

Now, consider your own role in this incident. You were loudly shouting for LC to be saved. You didn't want that lynch. Anyone who knows you well would be well-advised to listen to you on that front. Does lapluie know you? Does your reputation hold any weight with a player who has never played with you before? What about the LC voters who do know you and still ignored you? Would you agree that there is a more obvious problem with that picture?

Very well, Jay - you have my attention.

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:01 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:48 pm It frankly astounds me that anyone could read Lapluie’s ISO and deduce from that she is anywhere near Town.
I think Lapluie is an easy player to read as mafia given a certain mindset, and that mindset is one I tend to avoid. It is a mindset that focuses solely on wording and on the direction of suspicions, but it doesn't regard context or personality enough. Consider the two people who know lapluie best in this game: Sloonei and Quin. The former strongly read her as a civilian, having played with her considerably more than any other Syndicateers. The latter harbors some suspicion, but not with a tone of confidence or assurance. Quin can fathom a civilian in lapluie's shoes too.

There are a few factors which point me to a civilian read on lapluie:

1. Consider her behavior during the Day of Curses. In her first game on the site during the second day phase, as far as she could tell everyone lost their minds and stopped trying to make sense. She wanted to leave the game because of that. I don't think that was fake. I think that's the look of a civilian in a challenging new environment with no idea how to proceed.

2. She was wrong about dunya, and applied that mistake as she proceeded into the next lynch. I believe she said that she didn't like it when people left legacy messages like "if you lynch me, lynch Player X next" or some such, because those kinds of posts made her feel less confident about her votes. That was a "thinking aloud" type comment which resonated with me and I thought looked authentic.

3. Despite being in this intimidating environment with a bunch of players who are not at all like what she's used to (as Sloonei/Quin have suggested), she has found the courage and the tenacity to amass around 200 posts. She is trying her best to be a productive part of this team, and I don't think that's nearly as easy to do if she draws a mafia role.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:48 pmYou said this of Jack:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:09 pm Jack is red because he continues to push dubious cases with a tone of exaggerated assertiveness while resisting other dubious cases with the same tone, and I question the legitimacy of any civilian mindset he has attempted to portray.
Precisely the same thing could be said of Lapluie (only I think it applies more so in her case).
I think Jack's content looks considerably less authentic at face value, and I see a lot more capacity for manipulation than I do with lapluie. She is shooting from the hip. He is coordinating and directing.

Riddle me this, Glorfindel: do you think you'd feel so strongly about her right now if her lynch target last phase had been someone other than Long Con?

If by your last question Jay, you mean someone else that I knew for certain to be a Townie, no.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:30 pm I sure did. What is your greatest disagreement?

It frankly astounds me that anyone could read Lapluie’s ISO and deduce from that she is anywhere near Town. You said this of Jack:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:09 pm Jack is red because he continues to push dubious cases with a tone of exaggerated assertiveness while resisting other dubious cases with the same tone, and I question the legitimacy of any civilian mindset he has attempted to portray.

Precisely the same thing could be said of Lapluie (only I think it applies more so in her case).

Don’t get me going on Simon. There’s massive red-herring potential there. If he was Mafia coming in at the last second, surely he’d have nailed TSP’s coffin shut once and for all. But no, he voted for Lapluie which is an encouraging look in my view.

It would seem logical that any POE needs to focus on the LC and TSP wagons. THAT is where we should start looking.

In any case, this will be left up to you guys to determine. I believe that it would be cruel and inhumane of our Mafia team to keep me alive any longer in this game so I hope my game does end here in the next few hours. No one would listen to me when it counted, I don’t expect that’s like to change.

EBWOP

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:51 pm POE is going to be fun in a game with so many low posters and so few overt civilian reads. I just tried to gut it out and ended up with this:

Glorfindel
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
Quin

Dave
Dom
DrWilgy
Elohcin
Jackofhearts2005
Made
novaselinenever
nutella
Simon
speedchuck

It may be further reducible with thorough ISO effort. We'll see.
You guys had better hope like hell that Dave and Dom are Mafia (fat chance in my view) because if that’s two Townies without votes that we CAN’T count on, this game is over.

As for you POE list, Jay - you’ve got to be kidding me. Did you even read the last EOD?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:51 pm POE is going to be fun in a game with so many low posters and so few overt civilian reads. I just tried to gut it out and ended up with this:

Glorfindel
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
Quin

Dave
Dom
DrWilgy
Elohcin
Jackofhearts2005
Made
novaselinenever
nutella
Simon
speedchuck

It may be further reducible with thorough ISO effort. We'll see.

You guys had better hope like hell that Dave and Dom are Mafia (fat chance in my view) because if that’s two Townies without votes that we can count on, this game is over.

As for you POE list, Jay - you’ve got to be kidding me. Did you even read the last EOD?

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 pm You guys are fucked, good luck

Spoken like a true Mafia on the brink of a clean sweep - mocking us And deservedly so...

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:15 am are you just kind of in here talking to yourself? @Made

who are your pics for remaining mafia, and by remaining mafia I actually mean the entire mafia?

You cannot be serious...?

That whole TSP thing was so damn obvious in the end - it was the old two-card trick. TSP was never going to flip Mafia... For what it’s worth, Buddy, I wish I could’ve saved you but it wasn’t to be - you needed someone better than I in your corner.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:59 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:53 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:43 pm I’m so trying not to be bitter about all this. Maybe it’s because I don’t spend sufficient time developing relationships with my fellow teamies through which I can more effectively influence their vote choices. All I had here was my reputation and (in the end) that counted for very little.

That said, my game will almost certainly end here. I’ve enjoyed the opportunity to play again with some of my old friends here and to get to play with some new peeps. Thanks, All
What? Where are you going glrof?
Glorf is going to die, but probably me first. Being two totally-confirmed Civs.

*NEWSFLASH* So is Quin. Can’t believe he jumped ship on me like that...

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:00 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:58 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:47 pm @Glorfindel how sure are you about your read on Long Con? Scale of 1-10
If 10 is “I’d stake my life on it” I’d go 10.
I guess it worked, huh?

I suppose it did

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:53 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:43 pm I’m so trying not to be bitter about all this. Maybe it’s because I don’t spend sufficient time developing relationships with my fellow teamies through which I can more effectively influence their vote choices. All I had here was my reputation and (in the end) that counted for very little.

That said, my game will almost certainly end here. I’ve enjoyed the opportunity to play again with some of my old friends here and to get to play with some new peeps. Thanks, All
What? Where are you going glrof?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:47 pm @Glorfindel how sure are you about your read on Long Con? Scale of 1-10

If 10 is “I’d stake my life on it” I’d go 10.

I’m so trying not to be bitter about all this. Maybe it’s because I don’t spend sufficient time developing relationships with my fellow teamies through which I can more effectively influence their vote choices. All I had here was my reputation and (in the end) that counted for very little.

That said, my game will almost certainly end here. I’ve enjoyed the opportunity to play again with some of my old friends here and to get to play with some new peeps. Thanks, All

I did all I could. I’m satisfied with that.

LC is confirmed Town you fools

I DON’T LIE!

LC is confirmed Town

And there we have it - our Mafia voting for the confirmed Townie (LC)

Lon Con is Town. Ands so am I. You can all take that to the bank.

EBWOP

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:21 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:19 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:17 pm LMFAO YOU GUYS AREN'T RVEN SEEING THIS, LONGCON & SIMON ARE MAFIA Oh my god.. they just freaking piled up the votes.. I'm wheezing
Lon Con is NOT Mafia! No way. No how.
I'm actually so disappointed in you glorf, out of all people. I just made my cases & points yet you're clearly blind to see the truth

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:21 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:19 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:17 pm LMFAO YOU GUYS AREN'T RVEN SEEING THIS, LONGCON & SIMON ARE MAFIA Oh my god.. they just freaking piled up the votes.. I'm wheezing
Lon Con is NOT Mafia! No way. No how.
I'm actually so disappointed in you glorf, out of all people. I just made my cases & points yet you're clearly blind to see the truth

YOU CAN’T TAKE THE TRUTH!

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:17 pm LMFAO YOU GUYS AREN'T RVEN SEEING THIS, LONGCON & SIMON ARE MAFIA Oh my god.. they just freaking piled up the votes.. I'm wheezing

Lon Con is NOT Mafia! No way. No how.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:08 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:06 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:16 pm That also seems like a dumb reason to vote Tony.
Time’s running out here, Quin... It looks like Lapluie is the only viable option to TSP?

glorf-san, i am weak. tell me what to do.

I am almost certain that you too are one of us. Please consider voting for Lapluie with us.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:16 pm That also seems like a dumb reason to vote Tony.

Time’s running out here, Quin... It looks like Lapluie is the only viable option to TSP?

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:57 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:52 pm More and more that TSP wagon is looking like a setup...
What do you think of novas vote? He hasn't been posting at all recently othere than just voting for players with no reason why

I think it reeks too.

More and more that TSP wagon is looking like a setup...

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:32 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:22 pm @@Quin Thoughts on LC please?
Besides like, 2 posts, I have literally 0 idea what he was trying to do with his Day 2 curse. It felt like he was just throwing whatever image took his fancy at the thread. Doesn't look great.

Let’s just pretend for a moment that you knew that LC was Town beyond any doubt - does that make a difference to your views on Lapluie (or anyone else for that matter)?

@[mention]Quin[/mention] Thoughts on LC please?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:46 pm @Quin

Laps felt like that most of the game to me. Innoffensive, I mean.

@Glorfindel

What specifically do you not like about Lap?

For me, it's the lack of trigger discipline. Like looking for reasons to abandon good trains like Simon and Tony in favor of bad ones like Dunya and LC.

Quin, would indy Lap do that? I think that's a scum or town trait. Indy can coast at this point.

It’s partly what you’ve indicated above but looking at her ISO, she seemed to be coasting early on then the whole interaction with Dunya (in retrospect) just looks really bad. Now this LC thing? And then her reaction to being voted? If I didn’t know better, I’d say it sounds like she knows there are a substantial number of players that will never vote for her and that she’s totally safe. It just reeks Mafia to me.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:47 pm Made is bothersome. I don't understand any of his reads. It's almost like he quoted random posts and assigned random reads and then stated the posts were the reason for his reads. He came out swinging on Day 1, got some town cred, was wrong and then disappeared. I keep hoping he'll come back and generate enough content to make me know he's town but I don't know he is.

Lap is also worrisome. I've scumread her most the game. This is offset somewhat by Sloonei (and Quin iirc) continuing to town read her. After really locking in on some suspects, she's gone off my radar a bit.

I don't like her jumpy vote switches, particularly from Simon to Dunya and now all over. Wilgy is actually coming out ahead in their one on one. Still, gth good.
I'm not town reading lapluie. I would vote for her. Recently it's gotten a bit better, but in the past few phases whenever she's posted I've had the feeling she's holding things back. Like she's trying not to make enemies or something.

I've never seen it, but this could be indy lapluie.

Nope, my spidey-sense is going off something chronic on Lapluie right now.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:50 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:44 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:29 pm @TonyStarkPrime are you opposed to voting longcon?
I certainly am. I think I’ve seen enough.
Ok buddy. There's nothing I can really defend myself other than what happened to the Dunya incident, in which I've already explained myself..

You were instrumental in pushing Dunya’s lynch and I don’t now believe that you ever really believed that she was Mafia. And here you are again trying to manoeuvre a lynch on LC. If you’re Town, I’m Santa Claus.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:29 pm @TonyStarkPrime are you opposed to voting longcon?

I certainly am. I think I’ve seen enough.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:45 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:30 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:03 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:14 am I really hate this. For days now, I’ve toyed with lynching Tony and now it comes down to it, I have this strange feeling of unease...
Who do you think would be a better lynch?
I just ISO’d you and I think, on balance - perhaps you. Your pursuit of Dunya in my view was well over the top and in my view lacked sincerity.
OK fair enough.

Not really the response I’d have expected from a Town Lapluie...

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:03 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:14 am I really hate this. For days now, I’ve toyed with lynching Tony and now it comes down to it, I have this strange feeling of unease...
Who do you think would be a better lynch?

I just ISO’d you and I think, on balance - perhaps you. Your pursuit of Dunya in my view was well over the top and in my view lacked sincerity.

I really hate this. For days now, I’ve toyed with lynching Tony and now it comes down to it, I have this strange feeling of unease...

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:54 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:00 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:47 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:27 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:51 am Can you point out the post that gave you the impression lapluie was being manipulative?
It wasn’t one specific post, it was more a general tonal thing. Perhaps manipulative was the wrong word - perhaps unauthentic, if that’s a word I’ll see what I can find to demonstrate what I mean. May I also please ask your opinion of Kyle? I really want to believe he’s OK but just when I start to believe...

Congrats on the cruise too! May I ask where you’re going and for how long? At the rate we’re going, this game will be well and truly over by the time you leave - please forgive my negativity )
GTH I call him town. I've lost interest in my early beefs with him. I don't think his comments about marmot reflect badly on him.

I'm staying in Sydney for a night and then heading to NZ. Gonna make stops in Auckland and some other cities/islands. I'll be back on the 8th.
May I also ask how you interpret Jay’s earlier claim specifically in relation to Rule # 3 for this game?

Cool! Need someone to carry your bags?
I think we should leave that up to Epi.

No, I have three brothers to push all the heavy lifting on to

Quin, please explain to me what you mean by ‘leaving it up to Epi’? Epi hasn’t intervened in what appears to be a deliberate breach of Rule 3. Why do you think that is? Is it possible that it wasn’t a breach of Rule 3 at all?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:35 am @TonyStarkPrime

Why are you voting Nutella? Why should we not lynch you?

@Quin @Kylemii
@nutella
@Glorfindel

Is it possible Jimmy is Ermac?

Anything is conceivably possible. I suppose it could’ve been him from the language he used but Ermac kinda sounded like he knew stuff and if Jay’s Indy claim is true, I don’t see how that could be true. I’m still not sure I believe any of the stuff he said - for a start, how could you ever take anyone seriously with a ‘cat in a sweater’ avatar?

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