The Syndicate

Day one is interesting.

What sounds more likely- everyone who didn’t vote is town

Or at least one person who didn’t vote is scum?

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:36 pm Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

Day 2:
NANOOK (2) - Mac, Creature
Rej (1) - Tedexter
Sig (1) - Nova
therealet (6) - NANOOK, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie, Rej
Not voting: Sprityo, therealet, Enrique

Day 3:
Dom (5) - Tedexter, Mac, Creature, Sabie, Sig
Enrique (1) - Epignosis
Nova (1) - NANOOK
Sig (2) - Nova, Dom
Not Voting: sprityo, Enrique, Rej

fixed colors and added my town reads in cyan

Yea mac is giving me the heebie jeebies especially after inception mafia

Also:

NANOOKofhearts2005 vibes is what I’m feeling rn

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

Day 2:
NANOOK (2) - Mac, Creature
Rej (1) - Tedexter
Sig (1) - Nova
therealet (6) - NANOOK, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie, Rej
Not voting: Sprityo, therealet, Enrique

Day 3:
Dom (5) - Tedexter, Mac, Creature, Sabie, Sig
Enrique (1) - Epignosis
Nova (1) - NANOOK
Sig (2) - Nova, Dom
Not Voting: sprityo, Enrique, Rej

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:53 pm Enrique, Nova, Mac, Nanook, and Spirtyo are whom I'm eyeing right now.

Nova/Mac are top two followed by Nanook.
Enrique/Sprityo are more meh reads

Fair

Not gonna lie, I don’t think I’ve read a single post from Enrique this game

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:28 pm Where the hell is everyone?

While you were being lynched-

I was studying the blade.

I apologize for my recent absence everyone. Work has been hell and I get maybe a couple hours a day to myself. Things seem to be going back to normal hopefully so I’ll try and hop back into the game

In other news, good job Dom voters

I’m going to be missing deadline so I’m gonna take my nap right now, wake up, then decide where my vote is going if anywhere

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:31 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:20 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.
@Dom @ Epi

From this post onwards. My discussion with tedexter and tony up until the night ended basically
The reason why I doubt your first scenario is that ET seems to be implying he knows why he survived.

Hmmmm

That would make a difference yes. Although I didn’t get that immediately off of a quick read so what gives you that answer?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

[mention]Dom[/mention] @ Epi

From this post onwards. My discussion with tedexter and tony up until the night ended basically

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

[mention]Dom[/mention] @ Epi

From this post onwards. My discussion with tedexter and tony up until the night ended basically

Epi, do you put any merit into my ramblings from last night?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:29 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:59 pm Also i like to think mafia assumed tony was one of sleazy Martinez or bender after reading my discussion last night to which I should apologize to tony for implying that on him
That could be a possibility. I looked through Tony's ISO to maybe get a feel for why they chose him and there really isn't much there. It seemed like he mostly was accusing rej and sort of accused therealet but didn't vote for either of them and he made a lot of vague comments like I think this because reasons.

That and he said he had solved the game.

and here I thought it an obvious jest

Also i like to think mafia assumed tony was one of sleazy Martinez or bender after reading my discussion last night to which I should apologize to tony for implying that on him

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:16 pm Someone give me a reason to townread Sprityo

give yourself a reason to scumread me first why don’t you?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:38 pm Maybe it's worth noting that therealets vote is in the host mode non player spot so was that a mistake and he meant to vote no lynch or something?

i think he "unvoted"

which isnt an option here

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] it's safe to assume that IF you were Sleazy Martinez and you found yourself having to vote between LC or therealet, you would've chosen LC correct?

couldve simply missed deadline?

if youre implying that if he tied the votes with someone, and then that someone got lynched (who isnt martinez) that martinez would know what's up and hard rail him

then yes i think that's a pretty good reason no to vote a counter wagon

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:15 pm God damn it I can see Creature doing his extra vote on day one. He’s that type of a player.

you and I think alike friend

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:05 pm Here are real options

1) calculon
2) bender + net pres
3) bender + tie guy (2 way chooses LC)

One of these is much more simple

linki:
4) someone messed up
5) secrets

calculon only says he avoids the first attempt on his life, not move it to someone else

so i dont agree on that

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:02 pm
Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:55 pm : if a town role who chooses from ties was assigned a choice between ET LC Me and whoever else had two votes

Why would they not choose ET
Why didn’t you vote ET if he’s so obviously scum?
You choose ET in this case because if given a four way tie the only thing that could have lead to that specific outcome is ET being network president in which case you always choose him

unless of course, someone didnt read the role list........

Would not even be surprised.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:00 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:55 pm : if a town role who chooses from ties was assigned a choice between ET LC Me and whoever else had two votes

Why would they not choose ET
my thoughts exactly, thats why i think bender is more so the culprit here. that would also give a more bad lean to realet
Did we determine Calculon isn’t at play here cause that seems like a reasonable possibility

i looked at this disregarding all secrets and hypnotoad

my thoughts are calculon and sleazy martinez's secrets are related tbh and dont effect voting

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:55 pm : if a town role who chooses from ties was assigned a choice between ET LC Me and whoever else had two votes

Why would they not choose ET

my thoughts exactly, thats why i think bender is more so the culprit here. that would also give a more bad lean to realet

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:48 pm You think Bender uses his ability on day one? When it’s a two-shot one? To save et?

less so to save, more of if a selfish person wanted to lynched someone they thought more bad than realet. not to mention bender gains the power of whoever he votes for when theyre lynched

Epi, Dom, Sabie, TSP, Creature

im confident most if not all these people are town

Theorycrafting time-

Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet

So what's our possible roles here? it's been brought up but the most glaring issue is therealet shouldve been lynched but wasnt. I think it's also a common understanding that Sleazy Martinez was the one who had to pick who would be lynched. Discounting Secrets and Indy involvement I think these three scenarios sum up our situation at hand.

-One of TSP and Creature is Bender. therealet's role does not matter.
-therealet is Network President. Bender could still be in play and is the reason why LC was lynched.
-therealet is Network President and Bender didn't use his double vote, making sleazy martinez choose between Creature, LC, therealet, or TSP.

Personally I feel the first one is the most likely option followed by the second and then third.

Note: for the third option it'd make sense for Creature or TSP to be Sleazy Martinez and the other to be Bender.

therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:16 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:15 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:03 am
Spoiler: show
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:44 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:43 pm you all are missing a glaring situation here about my possible role
i expected to be hanged no matter what so i gave up trying
We're missing a glaring situation about your possible role?

Or your actual role?

That wording.

But okay.

Since you have declared that all of us are missing a glaring situation, I will painstakingly go through every situation imaginable, omitting instances in which "secrets" are involved since that could be anything and doesn't constitute a "glaring situation."

1. Calculon

The star of the show, Calculon is virtually untouchable on set. He will survive the first fatal action against him, whether via a lynch or a nightkill. *(Secrets)*

In my experience, "survive" means no death happens. If Calculon got Night killed, the mafia faction would not get to pick another target. It stands to reason that if Calculon got lynched (for the first time, not having been a Night kill target previously), there would be no lynch.

We didn't have a "no lynch." We had a cop lynch.

2. Sleazy Martinez

Calculon’s identical twin. If a tie occurs, the town will look to Calculon for a decision but Sleazy will interfere, allowing him to decide which player is lynched. *(Secrets)*

Given the close spread of the votes and the delay in the post, I am inclined to believe that Martinez had a hand in the result. This only happens if there's a tie.

You are not Sleazy Martinez, because you would not know how you survived having three votes (at least not enough to call it a "glaring situation").

3. Bender

TV’s coolest robot. Bender is allegedly a terrible influence on impressionable youth, but he’s just so darn cool. His influence spreads everywhere. Twice during the game, Bender can cast two votes in the poll. He may cast two votes for the same player, or he may cast votes on two separate players. He’s Bender, baby. In addition, Bender can steal the ability of player he votes for once during the game. He will be granted access to that player’s night abilities the following night.

Bender influencing the votes would mean that Bender's action is available during the Day phase, which is unusual but not unheard of.

I would be surprised if Bender used extra votes during the least informed juncture.

You are not Bender, because you didn't even vote to save yourself the ordinary way.

4. Network President

The Network President has final say over all things, and nobody can stop him. Twice during the game, the Network President can modify the mafia team kill to be unblockabkle. As long as the Execubots remain alive, the President begins each Day with -1 vote and his alignment cannot be checked (he will be ID’d as town). *(Secrets)*

Someone with three votes got lynched to someone who had two votes. That's what happened. This is the most glaring situation.
well 'that wording' is me loosely treading the line of rule breaking

yall need to spoiler massive walls dawg
Who's bad?

...dawg.
bad as in evil or bad as in no skill

The former

Huzzah my account works again

I see there’s been some spicy role theory to which I will also contribute later today

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:57 pm Do you all actually read defensiveness for a scum tell?

No, of course not.

You sure picked a colorful group of people

I’m merely an observer. But ask and you shall receive

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:49 pm sprityo is a slight mafia lean right now too, since I didn't even remember he was playing.

The question is, what do you remember?

That was a good laugh. But there is definitely at least one person with a humongous ego in this game

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:58 pm There were no humongous egos here. Sorry. This was nothing. I read this in half an hour and digested it in half an hour and saw you for the mafia member you are in that span. And caught your teammate because you went out of your way for him.

“No humongous egos here”

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:10 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:08 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 pm Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch
I like you can we be friends plz
only if your friends at 451 dont use confirmation bias ever again and follow some shmuck on a whim

I like you though nanook, why do you want to be friends?
I mean tbf they were right

I want to be friends cause I like your sass!

Oh right we didn’t interact at all in Inception

Don’t worry I’m less sass and all ass

As in all asshole, i get annoyed by certain aspects of the game at times

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:12 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 pm Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:40 pm
therealet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:37 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:36 pm Stop with the shade thing

It lost all meaning
stop shutting down discussion
fuck off lol ur being majorly pretentious
For him it’s normal

It’s quite annoying to read

You get used to it
I interpret it as defending Creature. I note it down.

quite the opposite. i was merely stating my opinion of how to handle it. non alignment indicative.

if anything im almost always down to lynch creature given he spouts the pity game. otherwise i like him once he starts saying stuff i can work with

Dom and Sabie are town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:08 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 pm Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch
I like you can we be friends plz

only if your friends at 451 dont use confirmation bias ever again and follow some shmuck on a whim

I like you though nanook, why do you want to be friends?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:40 am Just team up to lynch top posting town and profit

top posting =/= town with a lot of good content

therealet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:37 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:36 pm Stop with the shade thing

It lost all meaning
stop shutting down discussion
fuck off lol ur being majorly pretentious

For him it’s normal

It’s quite annoying to read

You get used to it

Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch

therealet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:29 am reverse doctor disrespect has arrived
how yall been this new years

disrespecting

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:53 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:41 pm guys.... i have a confession...

I'm....

gay.
I am too right now.

Hi gay

Hi too

I’m the father

I’m here for a good time, not a long time

Hello everyone, nice to see you again

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