The Syndicate

CaptainNifty wrote:
Jack, I'm unsure on sprityo as well, but I can't seem to place him in either the Reaper or Cerberus faction.

Reaper
Cerberus
Alliance?

1. I didn't say I trusted you, I said I feel better about you.
2. You're being SUPER paranoid and OMGUS to anyone that is suspecting you, looks a lot worse tbh.

@I_R alright, you passed my little test. I feel a little better about you to the point of moving you to a null

Alright I'm hoping to see some activity today, we've got 8 hours left in the day and I'm still pumped

*sigh* yknow as much as i want to do this

i dont

So that's how im gonna leave it

Jack is not my priority right now. But he's the itch that wont go away.

That just begs the question however, where do our OTHER priorities reside? I dont want us to be stuck on the issue of Jack, but it's day 5, so if it come down to it, i guess then everyone will have to be questioning who is who.

And on that note, im going to be voting Immortal_Raven until he answer's my question.

As i see it, Immortal_Raven is suspect to be Reaper, and I suspect Adam/Marmot to be Cerberus

MovingPictures07 wrote:Clearly I'm a liar perpetually underestimating available time and should have gotten replaced. I still may, but I'm not sure the hosts even have one available and ready. I'll be around Monday if that doesn't happen. Sorry.

I think Speedchuck said he might want to replace in? figuring he doesnt already have his mafia platter full

Also Jack, while i rummage through your 250+ posts, could you at least give me opinions on other players? I dont recall anything from you recently aside from you trying to validate to everyone that brings up that they find you not town, why you are in fact town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
sprityo wrote:in fact

Vote: Jack

What was the question we asked yesterday? "Why should we NOT lynch jack?"
Because neither Silver Lantern nor GFish would have been lynched without me. Additionally, I was silenced after having the second most votes two days in a row.

A question I'm still waiting for an answer to is why people keep trying to lynch me in spite of the above statement and why they never seem to have an actual argument for me to address.

You usually scumhunt on gut alone? i feel it plays an integral part of how i play mafia, so yeah, it's there I mean seriously. At least give me some kinda tinfoil for why I am bad. You're Long Conning away every bit of confidence I have in you.

let me do your ISO then.

In the meantime, all i can say is if youre so confident that you've played a more than enough town play, why worry about a negative opinion being thrown towards you, a gut read at that?

scratch that i missed a role, Matriarch Benezia (Reapers)

was thinking of the cerberus role, which was only a two shot

before i answer that, let me look up the roles

how many possibilities are there for a player to be silenced?

in fact

Vote: Jack

What was the question we asked yesterday? "Why should we NOT lynch jack?"

my point being it's a crappy reason because it's a lazy one. I feel my gut is right and i'll stick by it

I applied my rainbow list to the past votes, this is what i got:

Confirmed town (dead)
Basically confirmed town
Light town
Null
Mafia
Cerberus
Reapers
Independents

Day 1 Votes

Spoiler: show

Day 2

Spoiler: show

Day 3

Spoiler: show

Day 4

Spoiler: show

sprityo wrote:Rainbow list

-SNIP-

-Jack*

Ones with an asterisk are ones i didnt check ISOs for.

Fredwood, if you think any of the people in my red section are mafia aligned, could you vote for that person for us to see. otherwise move your vote to myself.

well there we go then, i didnt know Jack was a girl. This is what i get for not playing mass effect

One last note, I believe Jack to be claiming Miranda.

No other option makes sense.

Rainbow list

-Fredwood* - I still believe fredwood is playing very town aside from his joker claim which he could only fake if ColBob was forged (i highly doubt this though)
-nutella - little content, some waffling, but good stuff being put out. Wish i could hear more from nutella
-SVS - SVS is odd, my gut is telling my civ, and yet i dont see much outside of jack discourse.
MP - lot of enthusiasm early, but it's slowed down, I feel like a lot of the past couple of day's content has been MP asking why he is under suspicion when really no one has even voted for him? He mentions being lumped with SVS a lot and not liking it. MP said Day 3 he considers Adam to be a possible for teammate to gfish (who was mafia)
-Nifty - Similar to Adam, but less alignment indicative. I dont really have anything to say except i dont think Nifty is bad
-Dizzy - I'm not seeing a lot of content that's helping the game.
-Epi* - Why is he still here? I guess we can keep him around a little longer....
-Adam - adam had a slow start, with a good chunk of his ISO being in Day 2. What REALLY got my goat with him was....in a two mafia game. Why is he only asking/referencing the Cerberus Mafia team? Like in his entire ISO you can find the word "reaper" 9 times, only once being said by him, the rest in quotes... The more i think about this....the less i like it. One last thing to top the cake, Dom made a case for why Adam was Cerberus on Night 2. Who died Night 2? It was Dom. In fact i believe Dom would've pushed this idea further had he not died.
-Immortal_Raven - Im sketchy on his claim still. not a lot of content to work off of, and they way he tries to play off how i reversed tracked myself gives me the heeby jeebies.
-Jack* - I take back what i said earlier about jack looking better. My gut is coming back with a reminder that the longer he is in here, the less im gonna want to lynch him. I think if we lynch jack, we would be able to focus more on others since he has been a suspicion of a few people for a decent amount of time now.

Ones with an asterisk are ones i didnt check ISOs for.

S~V~S wrote:
sprityo wrote:SVS, who did you target last night?
I pulled a vote off of someone. I would rather not say who if you don't mind.

Fair enough,

I am almost done with my full ISO of everyone. well. an almost full ISO of everyone

We dont ISO Epi because there's no need to

I_R what were your other night action targets?

SVS, who did you target last night?

nutella wrote:Are... are you really asking that, Sprit? Between those two posts is when Nifty targeted me, obviously.

you never mentioned it in between the posts so i had no way of knowing, fair enough.

edit from earlier: I didnt see that I-R had claimed Ash, so that means Jack would have to be either Miranda or Samantha (assuming he's telling the truth)

anyone pickup on his clue or whatever that could relate to this?

S~V~S wrote:No no effects. I chose to add votes to Silver and Jack as I suspected them the first two nights. Night three I could not target Jack two nights in a row and Silver was dead, so I removed a vote from Wilgy as I felt movement in his direction.

So I cannot be confirmed by results, but I am who I am nevertheless.

Why would people move to Wilgy?

sprityo wrote:@Nutella, what happened between these two posts?

nutella wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:LA, what do you think of Nifty?
Still not sure. I liked Fred's case, but I also liked his defense. He claimed Anderson and that he tried to give Fred an extra shot to de-vanilla-fy him, but that's a little sketchy because it seems like he should have figured out that it wouldn't work? idk I'm still unclear on that whole thing, so it could be a fake claim but I'm leaning toward believing it. He was a pretty early civ read for me, but the case for him being gfish's teammate has some merit. Idk, I know I'm waffling

nutella wrote:
CaptainNifty wrote:
nutella wrote:Cool no death!

Now I need to sort out my thoughts for this lynch Several players I'm iffy on (Nifty, Wilgy, Jack, SVS) but nothing really confident.
Really, you're iffy on me after what I did for you?

There was only about 24-30 hours in between them if my guess-timations are right (from Day 3 to Day 4) So what during the night changed your opinion since youre ISO is no providing anything aside from a sudden change without context

Not anymore.

EBWOP: fixed my colors

@Nutella, what happened between these two posts?

nutella wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:LA, what do you think of Nifty?
Still not sure. I liked Fred's case, but I also liked his defense. He claimed Anderson and that he tried to give Fred an extra shot to de-vanilla-fy him, but that's a little sketchy because it seems like he should have figured out that it wouldn't work? idk I'm still unclear on that whole thing, so it could be a fake claim but I'm leaning toward believing it. He was a pretty early civ read for me, but the case for him being gfish's teammate has some merit. Idk, I know I'm waffling

nutella wrote:
CaptainNifty wrote:
nutella wrote:Cool no death!

Now I need to sort out my thoughts for this lynch Several players I'm iffy on (Nifty, Wilgy, Jack, SVS) but nothing really confident.
Really, you're iffy on me after what I did for you?

There was only about 24-30 hours in between them if my guess-timations are right (from Day 3 to Day 4) So what during the night changed your opinion since youre ISO is no providing anything aside from a sudden change without context
Not anymore.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:So recap:

Adam - ???
Nifty - Anderson, vouched for by Nutella
Dizzy - ???
Epi - Geth, w/ limited reason to believe he does have nk protection
Fred - Joker, confirmed (less potential forging) by Bob's death
Raven - Ash
Jack - romanceable lady (which is not nearly as open ended of a claim as it was at the time)
MP - Legion awesome character concept
Nutella - ???
Sprityo- Tali
SVS - Kelly

So i'm looking at these roles like this:

where, if at all, can these be confirmed, or at least assumed to be confirmed? I know I am tied to I_R for his visit to me when i watched myself, Nifty is directly tied to nutella. Epi is still a nuisance. MP isnt really confirmable. SVS, i think she said something about this, but none of the results have indicated that she effected them at all. then Jack is claiming one of Miranda, Ashley, or Samantha. (or Samara if she is an option, but her role doesnt say so explicitly)

@Dyslexicon, what was your reasoning for voting MP earlier? i dont believe im seeing it.

Also:

Dyslexicon wrote:People I would invite to my birthday party:
Fred - Potty mouthed friend.
Nut - Hazelnut spread friend.
LC - I will yolo this read to my grave.____________Long Con - posts - Aria T'Loak - Lynched on Day 4
Wilgy - Yaaaas, bruh.____________DrWilgy - posts - Liara T'Soni - Killed on Night 4

People I would go for long walks with (but maybe bring a knife in my back pocket just in case)
SVS - Tinks thoughty thoughts.
Adam - Makes me sane.
Nifty - Has the grrrs.
MP - Because I thought so D1.

People I want to get to know better:
Dom - Is like a mix of Epi and Llama and it's fun.____________Dom - posts - Garrus Vakarian - Killed on Night 2
Sprit - Is standing on the outside looking in.

People I'm looking at while lifting one eyebrow:
TSP - Says some weird things I don't follow.____________TonyStarkPrime - posts - Commander Shepard - Killed on Night 4
Raven - I've kind of forgotten the concrete reasons, so let's call it gut. (Actually the reasons are a bit silly).

People I will throw rocks at:
Silver - Doesn't feel like he did to me last game. Lack of scum hunting?____________Silver Lantern - posts - Sovereign - Lynched on Day 3
Jack - I don't feel like explaining this in detail. I think "not finding his footing" like Adam said is a good analogy. Many words, much mental gymnastics, which can go on forever, but I can see through it. His pokes on me is a placeholder, as it is with Nut.

Oh, and that guy:
Epi - Hi.

How would you change this list now, if at all?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Dizzy

You're asking a lot of questions that have been answered. Glad you're back but you'll be more convincing if you catch up first. You can ISO me for a recent summary I gave MP and start from there if you have to.

@Sprit

You claimed Tali. Nifty claimed Anderson, Fred claimed EDI, MP claimed Legion. I claimed a romanceable lady. Raven hinted something and I didn't catch it. SVS claimed helpful and unhelpful and I narrowed her down to Jacob or someone else but then she claimed and I missed it. Epi claimed Geth.

I think that's it.

How can Fred claim EDI if ColonialBob died night 1... and he flipped as EDI

real quick, who all has claimed what?

Something about why theres 4 votes on dyslexicon doesnt sit right with my gut...

im going to do an ISO of Dizzy real quick to either disprove or approve my gut.

A quick GTH, I totally just didn't do anything during our extended night phase like I wanted to do

But without thinking, I would okay lynching (not wanting to lynching but not opposed to lynching)

Adam
Epignosis
nutella (less so since I feel I haven't looked at Nutella really at all this game)

I'll give a proper once over of everyone....at some point I'm feeling motivated

looks at who is voting dyslexicon

Hmm.

I'm back, and never mind, I misunderstood my role. Wilgy is dead and I couldn't have stopped that

In other words, wilgy should not have died.

Alright something fishy is going on here

Awaiting a reply from hosts for an explanation

Oh, hur dur

I don't know how to count

Normally I try to be in here for day starts but I'll be preoccupied with the lion king mafia most likely (figuring we get enough people for the burglary)

DrWilgy wrote:Put it on IR.

I think him, Adam, or Sprityo are good options at a glance.

Good options as in we're good?

Welcome back wilgy. Any specifics comments you need to make to anyone?

I'm gonna make a post tonight, possibly lengthy talking about my position on the roleclaiming mechanic as well as who I am okay with lynching and who i am confident is town I'm keeping my vote on LC though, I believe SVS to be town

I'm not caught up, got a couple pages to read, I'm voting for LC until I catch up since I have more strong town reads for the players lynching him as opposed to the ones lynching SVS

Also I haven't really understood why people want to lynch SVS yet?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Welcome to the world of four to five confirmed townies.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Hard means you think they are boys. Soft means you think they are girls.

boo, bad joke

get off the stage

Night 2, i admittedly forgot to submit an action

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
sprityo wrote:naw

anyways, ive already explained why i watched myself, if you choose not to believe that, well i apologize.

in my own words i said "If I am able to, i want to RT myself, otherwise i want to watch DrWilgy"

to which i got a response along the lines of "youre allowed to watch yourself" and i was like cool

but it appears my other course of action wouldve been better. damn you self targetting why did you have to be such a good idea in my head?
Yeah. Wigly would have been a lot better.

I'd like you to watch me tonight if you are who you say you are. I don't want to be silenced again. You don't have to say anything. Just throwing that out there.

That's a negatory, ive used up both my RT's already

I've got both shots of my other ability ready though

if you must know, Nobody targetted JoH Night 1

naw

anyways, ive already explained why i watched myself, if you choose not to believe that, well i apologize.

in my own words i said "If I am able to, i want to RT myself, otherwise i want to watch DrWilgy"

to which i got a response along the lines of "youre allowed to watch yourself" and i was like cool

but it appears my other course of action wouldve been better. damn you self targetting

why did you have to be such a good idea in my head?

Immortal_Raven wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Adam? Raven?

Anything at all ya'll would like to contribute?
Nope, nothing to see here. I voted for the null option simply to get my vote listed so I could see where the votes were. It wasn't showing up before and I didn't know who to vote for before. It will change soon.

I feel I'm having the opposite and same effect as Wilgy who I'm leaning more Civ now. He was instrumental in lynching gfish and also fairly helpful in catching Silver. Two opposite factions and now he's silenced. That speaks a lot toward Civ or a very convincing play as scum. I conversely failed miserably on both of those lynches being the useless Civ that I am.

Right now I'm going to put a vote on sprityo. While Sprit liked the answer I gave in that I targeted him, I don't know how he would have acquired that information short of being a Reaper or neutral. If I subscribe to Wilgy being town and making a recommendation against sprityo last day phase (I do), logic says to vote for sprityo.

So youre asking how i couldve tracked you visiting me when all i can do is reverse track?

....i reverse tracked myself. Didnt me and Jack just discuss this?

Jack, i feel better about you recently, and opt to not lynch you over someone else.

Albeit ill need to start doing some ISOs once Epi is dead

tbh i think he wouldnt be in such a weird position had he not claimed nuetral.

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