The Syndicate

thank you friend, hopefully i live long enough to enjoy your trust

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:11 pm Day 6 has ended.

Adam / Marmot has been lynched. They were:

Matriarch Benezia of the Reapers

Yay!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:11 pm Epignosis has died. He was:

The Geth

Okay.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:11 pm , aligned with the Reapers

HAHAHAHA YES

you are a different player in another player's shoes, perhaps your opinion on how to play will convince him to otherwise not lynch you?

I liked your ISO Jack, spot on, only thing I can find that I disagree is when you say I "indirectly spent a lot of time getting everyone to not lynch dizzy" which yes, it would appear that way, but not my intention. My intention was to follow my reads and whether people would agree upon them was up to each individual player. Albeit in the case of yesterday, I had blinded myself with my own ambitions and everyone else made the right call.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:54 am Why do you think SVS is a civ?

Gut

I guess now, unless marmot has some magical trick up his sleeve, we are pretty set on lynching him today.

That begs the question on who else is suspect of being mafia


There will be a kill tonight so that leaves us with 7 players

Then unless the last reaper dies/we lynch them tomorrow, we are looking at only one kill tomorrow night. (Hopefully)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:00 pm Excuse me, MP was most definitely not the first to suggest Adam might be gfish's teammate.

I never said he was the first, I just said I had noticed it when I was reading his ISO

And to add on top of that, Cerberus is the one that killed night two. It seems I had forgotten to check and add that in originally.

sprityo wrote:Adam - adam had a slow start, with a good chunk of his ISO being in Day 2. What REALLY got my goat with him was....in a two mafia game. Why is he only asking/referencing the Cerberus Mafia team? Like in his entire ISO you can find the word "reaper" 9 times, only once being said by him, the rest in quotes... The more i think about this....the less i like it. One last thing to top the cake, Dom made a case for why Adam was Cerberus on Night 2. Who died Night 2? It was Dom. In fact i believe Dom would've pushed this idea further had he not died.

The original reason I pursued this avenue so far the other day was after MP had suggested Adam might be gfish's teammate sometime during Day 3. I think he was on the right track.

@captainNifty do you understand my point of view on why I think Adam is bad? I put out that I thought he was bad based off of his use of words.

A lot of what I remember is basic strategy though like claiming when you think you have something damning against a player and using textual evidence to find the baddies. We also used voting patterns as well (like how I had colored that voting list earlier)

I see, so in my past experiences setups were always one or the other. (With small twists thrown in) so either a closed setup and all role reveal (like phenon) or a open setup with no reveals. In the case of an open setup it was always you don't claim unless you absolutely have to. Even then some people didn't claim. I even had it in my rules for phenon, "claiming is allowed but is frowned upon, especially mass claiming" due to it removing a lot of the mystery, in the case of this game it's a pick your poison type setup so it has leeway with predestined roles you can attempt to lie about as opposed to claiming a new role entirely. The games as well had decent amounts of plain vanilla players in the game (usually 1/2 to 1/3 of the town population)

So is there anyone we think is silenced today?

We haven't yet heard once from our replacement people

Same goes to epignosis.


.....I still want more from Nutella



Linki: I've never been one much for strategy, it's also been 2-3 years since I've been on the site so I couldn't tell you off memory

CaptainNifty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:38 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:28 am N1 I RT'd JoH and saw no one else visit him
N2 I missed the submission
N3 I RTd myself and saw I_R visit me
N4 I Misdirected Captain Nifty
N5 I misdirected INH

It's also worth noting I have an extra shot of misdirection given to me by the hosts due to me not understanding the mechanic (which is to randomly assign the target of whoever I targeted with the misdirect)

Why in the world would you misdirect me. I tried to target Wilgy that night. Since you misdirected me, there is a solid chance that scum received an additional shot of a limited power.

BAD MOVE!

I was notified at the last minute that the action was different from a bus drive, so spur of the moment I picked randomly

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:24 am Updated rainbow.

Jack
Nifty
...
Nutella?
Raven?


Bleh.



How about "who is not Reaper?"
SVS, Nifty

"Who is not Cerberus?"
Need homework. We've got nothing on this faction for 4 days.

How about "who is paired?"
If Sprityo is bad, so is Raven
If SVS is bad, so is MP/MM

Bleh.

Who is not paired?
Nutella and SVS


None of these answers are long enough for a POE lynch.

Do you think nutella would be paired with Nifty or not paired?

N1 I RT'd JoH and saw no one else visit him
N2 I missed the submission
N3 I RTd myself and saw I_R visit me
N4 I Misdirected Captain Nifty
N5 I misdirected INH

It's also worth noting I have an extra shot of misdirection given to me by the hosts due to me not understanding the mechanic (which is to randomly assign the target of whoever I targeted with the misdirect)

Addition: and so that's why I said I wanted to lynch you over him

I can't recall why I rated Dyslexicon a high town read, likely me internally remembering how they played in phenon early on and relating it as similar

The next thing, I wasn't looking at gfish as the worst option, I was looking at him im comparison to the other 3 people that wilgy had asked me to examine

One last thing before sleepy time

My results for reverse tracking/watching JoH on night one was that no one (except myself of course) visited him.

So why are you so sure about you being targeted on night 1?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:06 pm His GFish interactions are not my favorite, either. Like "Yeah, GFish is bad but why don't we lynch Jack for vague reasons."

Also, im not sure where youre getting this idea from.

I never thought dizzy was town, i had them in a null spot, right above the three people i suspected most

It was a position i was not against or for, but wouldve rather gotten someone else.


Later,
Once CaptainNifty and I had this exchange:

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:00 pm

CaptainNifty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:07 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:42 am I'm still not seeing eye to eye on why you all vote Dyslexicon, I'm sticking to my guns on this one

VOTE JACKOFHEARTS

It's mostly about DOE, and Dyslexicon is a better choice than you or SVS as far as I'm concerned. Also, Dyslexicon comes onto the thread after being relatively quiet for a while, and starts accusing people who have been all but cleared.

that.....makes sense actually.

alright then.

It started to make more sense and i felt better about the lynch going through (besides the obvious fact that i was getting nowhere pushing my views)


Jack, i cant claim to be "the best player on HCRealms" like you can (well mostly because i've never played there, but this is just an example), the way you've played this whole game has rubbed me the wrong way. Which i know i mentioned earlier as well. Maybe this is due to me never having really played with you? Who knows. Perhaps i made myself too tunnel-sighted earlier and that really was my main goal was to get the distraction out of my face.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:54 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:12 pm Why would the reapers kill Fredwood though?

I would think that whoever is left would go for Cerberus to at least increase their chance at winning

Cause he was a confirmed townie.

6 vs 2 vs 1 (plus Epi) is better than 7 vs 1 vs 1 (plus Epi).


What's your case on Marmot/MP?

Okay, besides the obvious. Like I said, it would've benefitted them more to kill Cerberus.

About Adam, re: earlier in the night - "Adam had a slow start, with a good chunk of his ISO being in Day 2. What REALLY got my goat with him was....in a two mafia game. Why is he only asking/referencing the Cerberus Mafia team? Like in his entire ISO you can find the word "reaper" 9 times, only once being said by him, the rest in quotes... The more i think about this....the less i like it. One last thing to top the cake, Dom made a case for why Adam was Cerberus on Night 2. Who died Night 2? It was Dom. In fact i believe Dom would've pushed this idea further had he not died."

Basically, he looks fishy under the current circumstances on top of keeping his claim to himself.

Why would the reapers kill Fredwood though?

I would think that whoever is left would go for Cerberus to at least increase their chance at winning

Alright, moving on.

VOTE MARMOT

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:53 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:46 pm I had asked him in the first place to see if he would lie about his target. My main suspicion being if I had been poisoned. Henceforth if anything happened to me, it would fall back on him, and if he lied about who he visited, I would know

And that's all well and good and makes self RTing perhaps better in this game than most.

But it doesn't make me think you are good. It's just a statement that can't be proven.

There's a lot of things we can't prove

if anything, I hope my misdirect does something spectacular

Oh dang, night ends in 10 minutes

I had asked him in the first place to see if he would lie about his target. My main suspicion being if I had been poisoned. Henceforth if anything happened to me, it would fall back on him, and if he lied about who he visited, I would know

Ebwop: Do not think* not "Don't not"

What do you mean it doesn't make sense? The factor that changed was that a reaper was lynched. Therefore since a Reaper was lynched, and also a player who was very much against Jack, (however at the same time not willing to vote him), in my mind that would therefore flip the tables on the alignment.

It's the same thing as saying I don't not think X and Y are aligned and if X is mafia then Y must be town and vice versa.

I do not eliminate ALL doubt from jack, I've just raised him in the threshold above other players

Ebwop: Forgot to add fredwood to the "did not vote" area

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:31 am Current Vote Count (Hey, this should be familiar to the Realmsers!)

Dyslexicon (6) - nutella, Immortal_Raven, Jackofhearts2005, CaptainNifty, SVS, Epignosis

CaptainNifty (1) - Dyslexicon

JackofHearts2005 (1) - sprityo

Did Not Vote: Marmot, insertnamehere
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sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 am Alright so what I'm having a problem with is how half the living population is voting dizzy

If anything, we could presume either:

1. Dizzy is mafia and being bussed by a teammate
2. Dizzy is any alignment and being voted on by at least two mafia members, likely same team.
3. Dizzy is town and both mafia teams know it, plus the third party is voting against her (I told y'all we should've lynched him while we could)

So along with what I said earlier, and the voting results of yesterday, I wanted to add one last scenario

4. Dyslexicon is mafia and doesn't have the support of a teammate to get people off her wagon, in other words someone not there.

Does anyone think Marmot or INH could be the last Reaper of a mafia member in general? And how would everyone else fit in alignmentwise. (Disregarding claims)

@fredwood

I changed my opinion in jack because I had dizzy placed as a null and jack as opposite, in my mind, with tension that jack had against Dyslexicon, I find him more than likely to be telling the truth now about his role

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:13 am

Immortal_Raven wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:10 am Yay, I finally lynched someone.

I now trust Sprit very highly.

Why?

Mind giving your targets so far, Raven? I'm curious what your thought process has been each night.

Raven is Ashley, he said he targeted me on night 2 (or 3 I forget) and that was his one shot ability. No one can confirm his power since it was a vote addition power, I can confirm however that he did visit me since I watched myself that night

The back and forth between you two seemed legitimate, something that you couldn't have planned out in my eyes.

Marmot, do you care to claim your role? Or naw.

Nutella and Adam were the only ones to not claim anything at all, jack saying that he is a romance-able female

Also I'm now much more confident that jack is town, or at the very worst Cerberus. Now to see what he has to say now that we've lynched another reaper. Also I'm dropping my push to lynch Epi since he's really only important in the instance of voting

I want to look into what people think about Adam/Marmot

Could I get at least some reply on where I might've messed up in how I read people on my little rainbow?

well ill be damned.....

CaptainNifty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:07 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:42 am I'm still not seeing eye to eye on why you all vote Dyslexicon, I'm sticking to my guns on this one

VOTE JACKOFHEARTS

It's mostly about DOE, and Dyslexicon is a better choice than you or SVS as far as I'm concerned. Also, Dyslexicon comes onto the thread after being relatively quiet for a while, and starts accusing people who have been all but cleared.

that.....makes sense actually.

alright then.

Well I'll just bugger off then until day end since I can't change y'alls minds it would appear

Scratch the last statement, Epi hasn't voted yet

Sorry Epi.

Alright so what I'm having a problem with is how half the living population is voting dizzy

If anything, we could presume either:

1. Dizzy is mafia and being bussed by a teammate
2. Dizzy is any alignment and being voted on by at least two mafia members, likely same team.
3. Dizzy is town and both mafia teams know it, plus the third party is voting against her (I told y'all we should've lynched him while we could)

I'm still not seeing eye to eye on why you all vote Dyslexicon, I'm sticking to my guns on this one

VOTE JACKOFHEARTS

Well the simple solution is if one of them dies the other is more than likely scum right?

Where is INH, where is the Marmot?

Surely they have some sorta opinion or words to say?

Epignosis wrote:

sprityo wrote:Alright I'm hoping to see some activity today, we've got 8 hours left in the day and I'm still pumped

Negative.

Poll runs till Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:16 pm
You may select 1 option

You humans and your urgency.

Go participate in your senseless rituals, like searching outdoors for the vessels of zygotes you discolored the night prior.

Oh right the extension

Go away you cranky old drone, we'll lynch you once we run out of sensible options

I have a complete opposite view on Adam that you do, what are you seeing that I'm not?