The Syndicate

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:00 pm Also shoutout to @sprityo And @Dragon D. Luffy, y'all inspired me to try and supatown to the finish. Sorry I couldn't pull it off.

It was a good effort but too little too late I’m afraid

I regret not pushing it harder but the crazy mechanics wouldn’t let me solidify it in lynch mind

Also you buttheads kept killing every logical person

shame on you

Epi’s Test was correct

Also “hey guys, speedchuck has been alive for awhile” and “there’s no way you could’ve lynched I_D without stealing my vote”

Smh

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [] Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:18 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:18 pm

called it

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:53 pm @sprityo are you on a horse

feel free to not answer if this question is too personal

i already said im promoted to valkyrie knight

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:40 pm I told y'all Iron Dwarf was Mafia

whos next?

Another observation. Everyone gushes that speedunya is town. yet he's still alive

while every single other town/townish player has been killed

Okay so ALL THREE of our confirmed lynched mafia voted nutella on Day 3

Day 3 DDL's color chart

Spoiler: show

looking at how the mafia team voted it's still not unheard of for them to have tried bussing nutella since Jay had 5 players voting him by the time Lap voted the 3rd vote on Nutella

also:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:08 pm Not a very informative day. Not a single vote on Quin or lapluie. This might become more informative later if one of ID/RDW/Nutella/Sig flip bad, otherwise, meh.

Quin and lapluie try to lynch Nutella, which means she has hands down the best vote tracking in the game, or she is being bussed like hell. 3-headed oroboros indeed, Kyle.

I am pinged by Sig's useless as shit vote near the end though, and though my memory is not 100% trustworthy, I don't recall thinking well of Sig in any of these exercises. I'll look at him more closely after I'm done here.

overall though, i think i was just being paranoid on nutella, epi got it in my head they were bad. and then kites said something about Gwil clearing them so i want to look at that again too and see if i agree

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:36 am Day 1 (No Lynch)

[6] nutella- MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool, rundontwalk, JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Iron_Dwarf
[6] Quin - Dragon D. Luffy, nutella, colonialbob, Marmot, Kylemii, Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] dunya - DrWilgy

No vote: Dr. White, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

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Day 2

CBob - Kites, Tony, Marmot, Iron, Mac
Lap - Quin, Nutella, LC, Jimmy, CBob
*Dr White - Colin, Speed, RDW
Marmot - Sig
Speed - Wilgy
Iron - GWilly
Sig - Sprityo
nutella - Dr White
Jimmy - Epi
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Day 3

*[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, McDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[6] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: sig (but a good effort)

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Day 4

*[9] DrWilgy - sig, Kites, Iron_Dwarf, Marmot, gwilikers6, Dragon D. Luffy, Quin, rundontwalk, Speedchuck
[6] Quin - lapluie, sprityo, nutella, Kylemii, colonialbob, Epignosis

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Day 5

*[8] Quin - Marmot, Nutella, Dragon D. Luffy, Sig, speedchuck, gwilikers6, Kylemii, Kites
[4] Iron_Dwarf - rundontwalk, sprityo, quin, Epignosis
[1] Nutella - lapluie
[1] Marmot - Iron_Dwarf
[1] Kenway - colonialbob

No vote: Kenway

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Day 6

*[6] lapluie - sprityo, nutella, rundontwalk, gwilkkers6, Epignosis,kylemii
[4] rundontwalk - colonialbob, Kites, sig, Dragon D. Luffy
[2] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Speedchuck

Not voting: Kenway, lapluie

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Day 7

Rundontwalk (1): Iron_Dwarf
Colonialbob (3): Kites, rundontwalk, nutella
*IronDwarf (first life) (2): Kylemii, speedchuck
Sig (4):colonialbob, Kenway, Epignosis, sprityo

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Day 8

Kenway (1): Iron_Dwarf
*Iron_Dwarf (6): nutella, Kylemii, gwilikers6, speedchuck, Kites, colonialbob
Sig(1): Kenway

Unable to vote: Sprityo

blue is dead
red is mafia
green is people i feel fairly confident are town

Sure gwil, if I’m not gonna die tonight I’ll consider protecting you, perhaps use my alternate power instead

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:39 pm @nutella sorry if you've already revealed this but which players did you follow? back when you could do it

.....You mean misdirect right?

What was the logic behind a flier being able to surpass my protect?

Also we’ve already gone through quin saying he didn’t submit a night action so sig is probably in that same boat

and i can bet, i can BET i'd be off'd tonight since i have the last doctor power outside of Sage's One Shot heal

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:32 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:45 pm nutella:

I hate nutella's case on me and the way she went about presenting it. She discredited what I had to say as a NO U, but I don't care. She bad.

nutella was on board with dunya in that I was bad for not having scumreads on Day 1. That's a bad case any way I look at it. We're not at a buffet where we pick and choose the reads we want. She followed through with this by doing a big ISO on me, in which she labelled half of my Day 1 content as being empty and of no value because they didn't explicitly contain reads. nutella has played with me enough to know that shooting off reads every which way is not how I play mafia.
Sorry I don't keep a detailed file on your meta. I found your D1 content suspicious and dissimilar to behavior I've seen from you in games in which you were town. Simple as that.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:45 pm I also have issues with this post specifically:

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:55 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:54 am Jay, Jack's night post was at x:52, but I'm not entirely sure if he's using that
I'm trusting the poll title. Just before midnight.
Well he never put a fucking time in the poll and that's fucking vague so I'm going by the time of the night post
This is the entire conversation. She's not sure when day ends, and then she's suddenly irritated and stubborn about the lack of clarification. She wasn't up for lynch. I think she was about to lose a teammate.
This is a stupid point and I've addressed it already. For one thing, as I have pointed out already, the votes in between :52 and :00 did not actually affect who was in the lead to be lynched. Whether or not those votes counted, Cbob was in the lead (though Dr. White was the one who ended up dying). I was frustrated because I was trying to keep track of votes accurately and I was irritated about the EOD not being clear. No teammates or anything. Though I did strongly prefer a Lap lynch as I thought Bob was civ.

Seriously this argument doesn't even make sense if you look at the votes.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:17 pm Ok

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

I mean she has to be bad in at least one game right
......no??

for me, it was this, 2 day and night phases ago.

Im thinking too much about the night roles. Epi warned me about this. theres too much going on behind the scenes to accurately determine who did what during the night

Henceforth still i want everyone to look at nutella and say when the last thing she contributed was posted.

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:08 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:06 pm "i think Cbob is scum"

*votes sig*

While missing out on the context that I would've targeted sig if he didn't fly.

right. sorry im in a haze. carry on

I talked to epi last night in his drunken stupor, he seems convinced Nutella is scum and should be a priority over Sig, whom he also thought was bad

"i think Cbob is scum"

*votes sig*

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:00 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:58 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:54 pm Kites.
Where did you send him?
Don't get to choose.

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:58 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:54 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
Kites.

It could also have been an undoctorable kill or kyle/kenway targeted you last night to flip your doctor into a kill. (Kenway only if he promoted presumably)
Doctors can only be reversed to kills that can kill scum
Yes but presumably they still flip the doctor power, which would allow a mafia kill through.

Plus that only holds true for sage, not mage.

ah i see good point

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:54 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
Kites.

It could also have been an undoctorable kill or kyle/kenway targeted you last night to flip your doctor into a kill. (Kenway only if he promoted presumably)

kyle already said he used his reverse action on me and it "cant result in a death of a towny" as you can obviously see epi was towny confirmed after kyle had said that.

kenway mightve been able to do it if he wasnt promoted since i dont think mage has that restriction

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:57 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.
And there's also the fact that you showed no interest in promoting to bishop instead of mage knight to have your towniness confirmed. Perhaps because you had already promoted to mage knight at the beginning of the game?

my promotion choices are bishop and valkyrie knight for one, and i wanted to keep my protect

quin had a misdirecter built in to quin's role myrmidon

youre not making sense

I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] who was your target
[mention]nutella[/mention] who was your target?

Fuck I can’t vote today because my princess died

And one of you guys misdirected me

Cbob, And Nutella are the ones with misdirects

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine Epi was obviously on to something

Mafia made their move

When does day start again?

nutella has like less than 20 posts from Day 6 to now

speedchuck, im dropping this silly vote manip thing....for now. Occams razor tells me im right, but i think epi brings up a better point. At least Sig is in here talking, throwing out content and people he suspects

(Epi Pal, we're on night 7 still)

sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:25 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:09 pm What do you suggest we do then Speedchuck?

Also your “solve” was pretty close but it’s all hypothetical if you’re mafia. Cause see irondwarf can now be eliminated by mafia and they won’t have I waste their kill on him. So he’s obviously the more desireable target, less pain later. But if he’s mafia he won’t be touched. I don’t think that’s gonna inhibit scum because see, if you’re really town, then they might kill him anyways to set you up? You see where im going? It’s up to the mafia to kill him for possible wifom or to not kill him and let us question whether we kill him or not in the lynch.

Alternatively we have a wyvern rider who didn’t want to take initiative to kill irondwarf in the first place, and if he truly suspects Iron Dwarf I wholeheartedly ulencourage him to make the decision he thinks is best.

I’m still on my toes regarding that vote outcome it doesn’t sit right with me
Wasn't one of the reasons that people were lynching me was because they didn't like who i had killed? kinda counterproductive to trust someone you think is mafia and tried to lynch isn't it?

im not making the decision here all im doing is keeping the one other person i know i can trust alive. thats the objective of me

Also I’ve been promoted to Valkyrie Knight

I get my normal heal and an additional power

Also great RDW has two lives now...

What do you suggest we do then Speedchuck?

Also your “solve” was pretty close but it’s all hypothetical if you’re mafia. Cause see irondwarf can now be eliminated by mafia and they won’t have I waste their kill on him. So he’s obviously the more desireable target, less pain later. But if he’s mafia he won’t be touched. I don’t think that’s gonna inhibit scum because see, if you’re really town, then they might kill him anyways to set you up? You see where im going? It’s up to the mafia to kill him for possible wifom or to not kill him and let us question whether we kill him or not in the lynch.

Alternatively we have a wyvern rider who didn’t want to take initiative to kill irondwarf in the first place, and if he truly suspects Iron Dwarf I wholeheartedly ulencourage him to make the decision he thinks is best.

I’m still on my toes regarding that vote outcome it doesn’t sit right with me

Dies*

I read it like this, if irondwarf does tonight, Speedchuck looks a lot worse

If he doesn’t iron_dwarf looks worse

right, so even more a reason why sig shouldve been lynched

also i was super excited to get to use the phoenix wright gifs

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:36 pm I was about to post and say that.

If you look at the polls post, JoH was anticipating us being surprised with the results. He made a snide comment about it. I think he got it right.

Shenanigans, then. I don't think misdirection is that likely. Why misdirect me of all people?

DDL and Nutella are the only ones with misdirects, and thatd have to be a pretty lucky misdirect what with random targetting

Either youre lying or [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] messed up

or theres some EXTRA shenanigans at play

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:30 pm Queue appropriate music
Spoiler: show

So i start off the day by voting sig:
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:09 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine this shouldve happened days ago
Iron_Dwarf (0)
Sig (2) Sprityo

Epi follows up with voting Sig as well
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:42 am My biggest suspect is sig.

He has done nothing to help the civilians.

Anybody he has killed has been good.

His best evidence against rundontwalk was that rundontwalk "doesn't sound like a civilian" even though that's a horseshit rationale sig should be all too familiar with.

He is coasting.

Nobody is talking about him.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Iron_Dwarf (0)
Sig (3) Sprityo, Epignosis

Then Cbob votes Sig, but YOU (speedchuck) say he doesnt have a vote>

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:42 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine
So it low looks like this

Iron_Dwarf (0)
Sig (3) Sprityo[2], Epignosis[1], Cbob[0]

Speedchuck then votes

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:29 pm [VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

I think it's ridiculous to wait until endgame to talk about him. Does anyone/everyone think he's still scum, and are just waiting for a magic nightkill? Sig isn't targeting him. Mafia won't target him. And if we all agree, even if it takes two days, lynching ID is better than lynches we aren't as sure about. Meanwhile scum will keep narrowing the field as only they can.

I want replies to this. Who still suspects ID, how much, and why are we waiting?
so now we're at

Iron_Dwarf (2): speedchuck[2]
Sig (3): Sprityo[2], Epignosis[1], Cbob[0]

Followed by Kyle

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:08 pm [VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine aubergine
Iron_Dwarf (3): speedchuck[2], Kylemii[1]
Sig (3): Sprityo[2], Epignosis[1], Cbob[0]

HOWEVER, since Sig had 3 votes FIRST he is still being lynched. assuming youre telling the truth
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:06 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine
Epi votes sig again, even though he was already voting sig

And then Speedchuck tries to change his vote at the last minute for this reason:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:18 pm [VOTE: SIG] aubergine

I disagree with DDL on Iron_Dwarf. Just because he's been an alternate wagon every day doesn't mean he's town.
In conclusion.

You had to have stolen my vote to lynch Iron_Dwarf

(i fix it)

Queue appropriate music

Spoiler: show

So i start off the day by voting sig:

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:09 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine this shouldve happened days ago

Iron_Dwarf (0)
Sig (2) Sprityo

Epi follows up with voting Sig as well

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:42 am My biggest suspect is sig.

He has done nothing to help the civilians.

Anybody he has killed has been good.

His best evidence against rundontwalk was that rundontwalk "doesn't sound like a civilian" even though that's a horseshit rationale sig should be all too familiar with.

He is coasting.

Nobody is talking about him.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Iron_Dwarf (0)
Sig (3) Sprityo, Epignosis

Then Cbob votes Sig, but YOU (speedchuck) say he doesnt have a vote>

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:42 pm [VOTE: sig ] aubergine

So it low looks like this

Iron_Dwarf (0)
Sig (3) Sprityo[2], Epignosis[1], Cbob[0]

Speedchuck then votes

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:29 pm [VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

I think it's ridiculous to wait until endgame to talk about him. Does anyone/everyone think he's still scum, and are just waiting for a magic nightkill? Sig isn't targeting him. Mafia won't target him. And if we all agree, even if it takes two days, lynching ID is better than lynches we aren't as sure about. Meanwhile scum will keep narrowing the field as only they can.

I want replies to this. Who still suspects ID, how much, and why are we waiting?

so now we're at

Iron_Dwarf (2): speedchuck[2]
Sig (3): Sprityo[2], Epignosis[1], Cbob[0]

Followed by Kyle

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:08 pm [VOTE: iron_dwarf] aubergine aubergine

Iron_Dwarf (3): speedchuck[2], Kylemii[1]
Sig (3): Sprityo[2], Epignosis[1], Cbob[0]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 09/b87.gif

HOWEVER, since Sig had 3 votes FIRST he is still being lynched. assuming youre telling the truth

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:06 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

Epi votes sig again, even though he was already voting sig

And then Speedchuck tries to change his vote at the last minute for this reason:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:18 pm [VOTE: SIG] aubergine

I disagree with DDL on Iron_Dwarf. Just because he's been an alternate wagon every day doesn't mean he's town.

In conclusion.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ace ... 0329201545

You had to have stolen my vote to lynch Iron_Dwarf

AHA

incoming post

I’m gonna recount votes to double check

You could have chosen kenway, who we all know has one of the lowest activity in the game

Okay. So why cbob?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:53 pm Or I could have stolen from anyone else on that train, making it a tie.

Why is this suspicious?

Look man if it had resulted in sig being lynched I would’ve thought nothing of it. But you’re saying here that you stole it from one of 4 people on the sig wagon

That person being?

HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS

The only way irondwarf could have been lynched is f Speedchuck stole my two votes

Making it
I_D 4
Sig 3

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:17 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:15 pm this happened cos speedchuck stole a vote?
I suppose.

.........

wasn’t it “let the dragons through” or something? Is that what you’re referring to?

Linki: yea

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