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by ekeknat
Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

enrique you can resurrect me, my corpse is barely cold
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Long Con wrote:
ekeknat wrote:
Long Con wrote:Still not getting you here.
We need to lynch you, and then we need to lynch Zebra. How about that?
Could you dumb it down a bit?
u out, then zebra out

Sorry, I wasn't trying to come off like a smarmy fuck there, I just really have no other ways to say the same thing at this point..
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:56 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

a2thezebra wrote:There's nothing confusing about it. You're spewing nonsense so people will overthink a Long Con lynch.
well, people were confused by it? you can't just dismiss what I have to say as "nonsense" and have that be it. I'm not going to engage this any further, i've said what I have to say.
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:36 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

a2thezebra wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I'm really freaking confused. I went back and realized I was looking at the wrong role for Typh. *sigh* I give up.
You're supposed to be confused. LC and ekeknat are flooding the thread with nonsensical game speculation
You mean just me, and my bit of game speculation is completely correct. Let me copy it again just for anyone other than you (who I'm certain knows exactly it means, especially with our game discussions yesterday) who maybe didn't get the importance of this:

ekeknat wrote: Typhoony guessed my role based on his own role and my aggression over wanting him lynched. He guessed LC was GP mafia based on me grouping the two together.


If you look at the role sheet, things WILL snap into place and start making sense.

linki: At this point you're trying to play off the inherent confusingness of the situation to make things even more confusing than they are. It's neat scrambling, but that's it. What possible situation would make me want to lynch you first before LC?
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:16 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Long Con wrote:Still not getting you here.
We need to lynch you, and then we need to lynch Zebra. How about that?
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Long Con wrote:
indiglo wrote:What I'm not understanding is why you think Typhoony would have insider info based on his role. That's the part I'm having trouble wrapping my head around. The only info he had access to is the info in the thread. Unless I'm missing something uber obvious?
That's what I'm saying. He's acting like Typhoony was some sort of info role. :confused: :shrug:
this is like playing charades, lol

Without getting too close to the truth, because I'm not exactly sure how far I can go here - what I have been saying this whole time is, to come out right and say it:

- I think Typhoony guessed my role based on his own role and my aggression over wanting him lynched. He guessed LC was GP mafia based on me grouping the two together.

Go back and read the other civ role descriptions if you need to. Typh didn't have a role check, but he knew what was happening because HE CONNECTED THE DOTS based on what he knew of his own role and the others in the game.
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:11 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

and i know that post is kind of restating things I've already said, but I just needed to say it again for the record
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:07 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 5] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

Spacedaisy wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Well I'm gonna get lynched.

So... I think tonight some protection for Ekeknat would be nice.
Tomorrow you guys should lynch LC if you want a Gay Parade baddie.

What else...

I want BR to explain what team she thinks Zebra is on and if she thinks LC is bad.
I don't think DF/ekeknat/Made/SD/sprityo are bad.
I don't think Dana is nutellas teammate, but could very well be LCs teammate.
Leaves BR/Zebra/Indiglo. No read on Indiglo. I'll let BR and Zebra fight it out and figure out which one of them is bad.

Linki with DF:
Nope.
Shit, any lynch other than LC is a mistake. I don't know how I missed this earlier, I am really sorry Made.
So, now that this post has been dragged back into the present (like I should have done long ago), think about what it means.

- Think about why Typhoony had any reason to believe I was innocent, when I had just helped lead a mislynch on him.

- Think about why he'd say the phrase "LYNCH LC IF YOU WANT GP MAFIA" with so much certainty.


I'm just saying this before morning just in case. (and I'm saying THAT sentence so I DON'T die)

The only part I think could switch here is that either DF or Dana is mafia, and I could even be wrong on that
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:02 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

ekeknat wrote: sorry, it's late and I can't really find a way to condense myself down any further...
just want to clarify this isn't related to the tl;dr joke, it was an argument about technical win shit
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:00 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

indiglo wrote: Also, I had a really hard time following that back and forth between ekeknat & zebra. :confused2:
tl;dr: her side: I'm good! Ekeknat's bad!
my side: I'm good! Zebra's bad!

sorry, it's late and I can't really find a way to condense myself down any further...
Dana wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Yeah, sorry but according to Typh it seemssure that ekeknat is good and LC is bad. So I am going to have to believe that to be info coming from someone who had an alignment check ability. I think I would have to echo his thoughts about ekeknat being a great candidate for protection tonight.
Typh did not have an alignment check ability...? He just appeared to be from the other "group" (groups being Gay Parade and Coquelicot) to any role checkers. He was not himself a role checker. I am getting more and more suspicious of you as the night goes on.
No, his role was specifically: He appeared as a RANDOM MEMBER of the Gay Parade to any role checkers. Emphasis mine.
Dana wrote: I mean I do think you're bad but the lack of opposition to your lynch is making me pretty uncomfortable. I am also very inclined to believe that if I think someone is bad then they're probably not. So I don't know. I believe you're bad but I don't believe in myself/my thought process, if that makes any sense. Who do you think is bad at the current moment?
it's fine to suspect anybody you want, but you're going to need to get away from that thought process at some point. It is NOT going to be helpful in the final days of this thing
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Right, well. I'm not going to respond to all that. You're really good at talking around in circles, as we are all, but what you said seems needlessly inflammatory to me and I don't feel the need to respond to that at the moment. It should be easy enough for everyone outside of this to connect the dots about me based on what I've said. I'll say this; I AM likely wrong about the composition of this game right now, especially seeing as how another Coquelicot civ was just lynched. It's likely there's just one of them left at this point, I think

I want Long Con lynched. I won't even talk about you until after that happens. Yall just need to keep this in the back of your minds when zebra doesn't die tonight.

Just an extra thought to kind of sum things up - if both of me and zebra were GP civ, one of us would be dying tonight. But I'd be willing to bet money we're both still alive to see the morrow.

Linki (since I know what that means now):
Dana wrote: I am confused by this. Was Typhoony ever insanified? If Made tried check Typhoony who was actually Coquelicot, but showed up as Gay Parade, then which of them would end up getting insanified? I'm assuming Made would, since insanifying Typhoony from that check would just defeat the purpose of the role. So then how do you know Made tried to investigate him?


I'm really glad you asked this, since it is kind of hard to understand. Now, when I talked about "understanding Typhoony's lynch is the key to understanding this", I meant something different, so please do think about why I'd want to lynch Typhoony at that point in time.

Made investigated Typhoony, and was himself insanified. This happened on day 3. A quote from him from that day:
Made wrote:I Desperate Baddie sus of NorthernBelle. expugnable seems bad. Peter is Typhony. I will likely vote Typhony. Typhony smells funny. Ayyy lmao


and another: this one's mostly just for fun
Made wrote: Investigate 9/11
Dana wrote:
ekeknat wrote: - Zebra is definitely GP. THIS IS IMPORTANT! I've thought she (whom I didn't know was a she, so sorry if I've referred to you differently before) was a baddie for a while, but now that we have this low amount of people in the game we can use this to confirm it even further.
This really seems like it's coming out of nowhere.


The PROOF for it IS coming out of nowhere, really. Made being exposed as the detective (on Coquelicot) made this thing much easier to tell. She was investigated by Made on that day.
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

To answer why I didn't say this earlier - well, if I had come out and even hinted as possibly being useful earlier in this game, i'd be dead by now. I don't think this is too much in dispute - civs who are obviously civs usually don't last too long. It's not like I JUST NOW started saying things like this, either.

Once again, understanding Typhoony's lynch is essential to getting this thing. It's not me throwing the game here, and I really kind of bristle at that. THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO WIN. It's not like I haven't been trying to get us to win before now - we messed it up and now this is it
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:26 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

a2thezebra wrote:If you were actually a GP civ you would not

1. Out yourself as a GP civ at a point in the game where doing so could and most likely would cost you and all the other dead GP civs the game.
2. Constantly go back-and-forth with Long Con and then advocate my lynch the night before his lynch would be a no-brainer.
3. Say that my interactions with BR mean anything regarding my alignment. Also, why save points like that for right now? Because if you don't fling as much shit as possible then your teammate is going to be lynched and you'll be next.
1. As if I have another choice. WE AREN'T GOING TO WIN ANOTHER WAY. We aren't going to win through us all getting killed off.
2. Why not? It's not like I haven't done it before - and Made's role flipping the way it did flipped something in my brain.
3. i mean... I want him to be lynched though?
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:23 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

a2thezebra wrote:Also, if you were GP civ then you wouldn't out yourself as GP civ at this particular point in the game. The Coque civs have essentially already won, I believe all the indys have been eliminated, so now this is just a battle between the GP civs and the GP mafia, where the GP mafia almost certainly outnumber the GP civs. By outing yourself as a GP civ you are essentially throwing the game, and if you were doing that, you wouldn't still be dishing out all this disingenuous speculation.
I'm operating on the power of my optimism here in doing it, and hopefully the Coquelicot civs aren't dickwads about it. Because I do think that would be pretty shitty to do. I mean, really, we've wasted a lot of time in this game, and this is my last chance as a GP civ to be able to win.
a2thezebra wrote:
ekeknat wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Whose interactions with Black Rock?
zebra's
This makes zero sense as BR was a Coque baddie and they've all been eliminated. So how do my interactions with a confirmed baddie of a team that has been wiped out implicate me as anything in particular?
The things BR was saying about you were true, regardless of what she actually ended up flipping. To quote her:
Black Rock wrote:I never said you're not reading through posts with a neutral mind. Typhoony wanted you to and I said you won't. I think you're a gay parade baddie. That goes without saying since you were insanified. I think you're hoping SVS was right about me, I know she did not have info on me cause she was wrong about my role. I think you think if I flip bad you will be safe. What I will flip will not help you what so ever. The more you keep pushing the more I'm convinced. You're taking the wrong path, and you don't care. As long as everyone is looking where you point you're happy.
I think this is absolutely true, and just because she said it doesn't mean it isn't true. We all knew she was bad at this point
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

a2thezebra wrote: You said to lynch him first if you die tonight. What - and I know this is crazy - what if you don't? Will you be surprised? I won't.
Nah, I definitely don't think I will. Didn't I just say that? I've gone super high profile at this point, it's definitely easier to not kill me - but if I know the truth, to not say so is to not play to my full potential.
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:12 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Spacedaisy wrote:Whose interactions with Black Rock?
zebra's
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

a2thezebra wrote:This essentially proves to me that you're Long Con's teammate. You won't talk about anyone else but him for five+ phases with little to no mention of me besides a flimsy-at-best teammate suggestion, and then when push comes to shove you say I should be lynched instead of him. Typical.
I would loooooove to get him out first. Doesn't mean I don't want you both out!
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:10 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

I'll say this again - LC and Zebra are partners. So is one of Dana or DF, likely. If there are only three civilians left in this game tomorrow we need to all focus our votes on one person
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:07 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Well that was stupid. If we even still have a shot at winning this thing, which we only really do if the Coquelicot mafia accidentally killed one of the GP mafia at some point, yall need to god damn listen to what I've been saying. I don't expect to die during the night at this point just because I'm too obvious, but if I do, LYNCH LC. Then, if you'll allow me to continue on a limb, LYNCH ZEBRA.

From Made's role reveal, we can deduce this:
- Anyone who was insanified, at this point, was likely GP. We know this was true for MM who was nightkilled. Nutella doesn't seem to have used her powers - Made tried to investigate Typhoony, who ended up coming up Rose Robert (AND THIS IS IMPORTANT - GO HAVE A LOOK AT THE ROLE SHEET IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT TYPH'S ROLE DOES).

- Zebra is definitely GP. THIS IS IMPORTANT! I've thought she (whom I didn't know was a she, so sorry if I've referred to you differently before) was a baddie for a while, but now that we have this low amount of people in the game we can use this to confirm it even further. A quick breakdown of what seems likeliest at this point:

There are seven people left in the game. It's likely 3/7 are JUST gay parade mafia. I know I'm GP civ. We know that there were two deaths that were DEFINITELY Coquelicot civ, and at least one that was DEFINITELY GP civ. If I'm correct in guessing that both indiglo and spacedaisy are Coquilecot civ (though I may not be), that means there's just one extra role we don't know about - meaning at this point, people who are DEFINITELY GP are more likely to be bad than good. Foolproof evidence it is not, but it's DEFINITELY worth thinking about in conjunction with everything else that's been said.

As much as I don't want to use interactions with confirmed mafia as a source, I think her interactions with Black Rock are definitely worth taking into account as well, behavior wise.

Also this might just be a waste of writing if there really are three left anyway
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:57 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

Made wrote:
Enrique wrote:Lynch post is coming a few hours late today. I don't think the new schedule is quite working out.
This is what I was referring to. I didn't check the actually time the poll happened so that's my bad Ig. Rip me
Before you go, what do you have to say about this if you don't mind?
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:17 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

also my math has been off this whole time.. I've been operating under the assumption that there were SEVEN people left, when there are actually eight. Regardless, we can't have a civvy lynch today or the number of mafia left will equal the number of civvies alive tomorrow (assuming one of them didn't get killed in the night)
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

DFaraday wrote:
ekeknat wrote:
indiglo wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
indiglo wrote: Re: Made - Ok, recently DF and LC have mentioned Made seeming suspish for being insanified 2 times. I'm not sure I find that fact alone compelling enough to throw my vote there.

Given that the Detective specifically insanifies baddies, it's a fairly strong possibility. Strong enough that I will *vote Made*

Aha! I did not realize that, I guess I did not read that role carefully enough. Well then yeah, I'd say that is pretty damning.


This is not what the role did. It insanified ANY members of the Gay Parade. It could have hit any one of the five civs on our side and done the same thing.
Oh, I wasn't reading closely enough. That does throw it into question some more.

That's three, I'm still alive. :noble:
Well, if there are at least three of us left (assuming spacedaisy and indiglo are both Coquelicot civ, as I've done maybe prematurely), the miniature philosopher is dead, meaning there's only one GP civ role unaccounted for. Assuming it didn't get used the night Boulders went home, the lynch stop power might still be in play - if it is, this would DEFINITELY be the night to use it. I dunno for sure, but I'm just not feeling like Made is bad.
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:04 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

well, when the game is over by this point tomorrow, you'll only have yourselves to blame, seeing as how I've been calling at least two out of three GP mafs for over a week now. I'm not really going to try anymore
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:54 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

indiglo wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
indiglo wrote: Re: Made - Ok, recently DF and LC have mentioned Made seeming suspish for being insanified 2 times. I'm not sure I find that fact alone compelling enough to throw my vote there.

Given that the Detective specifically insanifies baddies, it's a fairly strong possibility. Strong enough that I will *vote Made*

Aha! I did not realize that, I guess I did not read that role carefully enough. Well then yeah, I'd say that is pretty damning.


This is not what the role did. It insanified ANY members of the Gay Parade. It could have hit any one of the five civs on our side and done the same thing.
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:52 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

the voting is definitely final unless he or someone else here happens to be the GP civ with a lynch stop. There are three votes left to be had - Made has five. This is pretty hard to swallow for me. This was NOT a good vote.
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:49 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

To say this again - GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT TYPHOONY FLIPPED. Look at the post he made right before he died. This is probably a useless post to make at this point anyway since the voting appears to be final, but yall are dead wrong as a group here
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:45 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

I didn't really suspect Made at all. He could be bad, but the votes on him have now pretty much placed this vote out of our grasp, since he has four on him.. Unless everyone else remaining votes LC, Made is dead in the water..

Do you guys not see how quickly LC twisted this thing so it isn't against him? Made had two votes already. If you were mafia do you really think missing two votes as the game is winding down is something you would be doing. This literally might be the last day we have a civ majority, so you better be damn sure before you vote for him, and this vote reeks of opportunism to me.
DFaraday wrote: Given that the Detective specifically insanifies baddies, it's a fairly strong possibility.


This is not what the Detective character on Coquelicot civ side did. It specifically insanified Gay Parade members in general. The other silencing would have been the Coquelicot mafia guy, who must have checked him at some point as well.

Let me ask: if you guys are so sure LC has been hinting at a civ role, would you mind bringing that evidence back to the attention of the group at large here? If it was something having to do with him being NOT Coquelicot mafia, that does NOT preclude him from being GP mafia. Which is what I've been saying he is this whole darn time...
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:11 am
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Made wrote: Re Zebra: Her post seem on topic, and she's been a very active player this game, something i've never seen from her. That said, she's not done much to ping me this game. I feel it'd be irrational to think she's bad because she's playing, to further clarify my thoughts.

can definitely understand this. At some point, you need to just vote on what you feel - I'll say while it's definitely easier to read more visible players as bad mistakenly, it's not always wrong. Think of how much you'd try and plan a game as a baddie as compared to what you'd do as a civilian.
indiglo wrote: I am definitely seriously considering what has occurred here. I am also seriously considering a variety of possibilities related to our various win conditions.
it's very likely I'm way off base here, but I'll say it anyway - I definitely hope this isn't hinting for a Coquelicot civ/GP maf joint win, especially considering the fact that we likely lynched every single Coquelicot bad guy instead of lynching any of the GP ones.. it'd feel real crappy for it to come out this way to me
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:05 am
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 7] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

I don't think there's any suspense in my vote - I'm voting LC. Wouldn't be opposed to a zebra lynch either here or down the road either. I'd like to ask the good people of the town to seriously consider what has occurred here before they vote, and God for mercy on our souls
by ekeknat
Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:27 am
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

looking back, i don't think I did really provide any explanation for my feelings on Dana - she's just felt towny in a real "I don't know what the hell is going on here" way this whole time, imo (no offence meant, she knows what I mean). Other, smarter, (dead) people have shown some suspicion towards that that, and I can also see where that's coming from.
by ekeknat
Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:17 am
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Long Con wrote:Now your question was rhetorical. Ok. Maybe you need to work on your delivery, because it sure looks exactly like you were talking about how zebra and I acted toward him before his lynch, and then using that to try and throw shade at me.


well, I was. My question was rhetorical in that I was asking, why would you ask that? Is the explanation you made one you've come up with since? am i not using the word rhetorically correctly? darn it
Long Con wrote: Scotty deliberately got himself lynched by faking a slip into the thread. That's obvious enough to be considered a fact. I fell for the slip, and voted him for it. You, on the other hand, avoided talking at all about Scotty and still managed to vote for him. But it only makes me bad, not you.


yeah, I was going along with a lynch train. this itself doesn't make anyone bad, there were a whole host of good guys who voted this way iirc. at this point in the game, it was still about getting distractions out, for me and apparently for the group at large. nobody's behavior at that makes them bad - it combined with your behavior since DOES. as far as scotty's lynch goes, is that really that obvious? I'm still under the impression that he was joking the whole time
Long Con wrote: Day 2 you voted for Boulders because he was "annoying".


well, no. really I voted for him because i know him outside this and i was trying to slap him on the wrist for being a distraction. game still wasn't too much a concern for me at that point - not enough information was to be had. I thought I made this pretty obvious at the time, but I might not have, so forgive me.
Long Con wrote: You skipped out for a few days after that, and came back with a vote for me for having a "scummy air" while also saying "I just definitely don't think Dana is bad based on that vote, i've got a real towny read on her."


gotta go ahead and defend myself here. I wasn't skipping out. what is that? I was literally busy. I posted after the vote closed once enrique reminded me the game was going on. again, there wasn't enough information to be had three days into this thing.
Long Con wrote: And you say you were so sure of me being bad, and yet you voted for Typhoony because we were "baddie teammates", but you were sure to let everyone know that you weren't bandwagoning, nope!


at this point I didn't know if sprityo was bad or not - obviously he's since been removed from this life and thus proved more or less innocent, but I was wary at the time. As far as Typh goes - provide your own explanation for why he implicated you on the night of his lynch, while defending me, regardless of the mistake I made in what really WAS a bandwagon of him (of the innocent, optimistic, still-got-a-twinkle-in-their-eye kind of way) - I think he got that I felt that way for a darn reason.
Long Con wrote: You and Dana are teammates, based on your soft defenses of her with little to no actual reason... and zebra is your third.
I'm literally not sure about Dana. think i've said that since i said the thing you quoted? I HAVE made soft defences of indiglo and spacedaisy that I actually believe in, which could easily be wrong.
by ekeknat
Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:51 am
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

sorry for misusing your words against you there... I got a bit of righteous fury stuck in my craw
by ekeknat
Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:49 am
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

Long Con wrote:Not completely sure about Dana, eh? Sure.
lol

Long Con wrote:Linki: which question?
not sure what this means, sorry, so I could be completely off base with my answer here, but you asked Scotty that question days ago (why would he try to get himself lynched) genuinely. I asked it rhetorically in my post. So, were you "deliberately misunderstanding" the situation when you asked it?
by ekeknat
Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:36 am
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

gosh darn it, I messed up all my formatting... sorry, I'm on my phone. I feel like I messed it up bad enough here I should clear it up:
ekeknat wrote:
Long Con wrote: Scotty surviving a lynch confirms him as a Repudiated Immortal. A neutral role that nobody needs dead to satisfy their Win Condition. It's not hard to understand, unless you are deliberately avoiding understanding.


so were you "deliberately avoiding understanding" when you asked the question in the first place?
by ekeknat
Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:31 am
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Re: [DAY 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

Long Con wrote: I was asking Dana that for a reason, but thanks for not waiting to see her response. I suppose you don't think that the fact that she came into the thread and didn't answer the question is suspicious at all? I repeated the question and still no response.


Not completely sure about Dana. For my part, I didn't feel I'd made the case strongly enough previously - I think I've voted for you three days running now? I gotta be a darn hound about this until you're out and flip mafia (and you will).

[quote="Long Con] Scotty surviving a lynch confirms him as a Repudiated Immortal. A neutral role that nobody needs dead to satisfy their Win Condition. It's not hard to understand, unless you are deliberately avoiding understanding. [/quote]

so were you "deliberately avoiding understanding" when you asked the question in the first place?
Long Con wrote: WTF? I derailed which conversation again?
The one I was just talking about where you looked past everything Scotty was saying? Or the other one I pointed out after Spacedaisy failed to be lynched? This one isn't so clear cut and obvious, but how about Typhoony's final posts before his wrongful death? Maybe I was too strong - you've drawn a ton of criticism you've managed to elude all the way here, but come on, yall. It's too late not to get this guy out at this point.

[quote="Long Con] This is really weak. I'm sorry about your "gut feel", but you don't know me and you don't know how I play. I don't think you're wrong, I think you are bad and trying to go for what you think is an easy lynch. [/quote]

I don't know how you play, but I do know how you ARE playing right now. As far as this being an easy lynch to hop on, hahaha. I don't think that's a logical argument at this point, considering how many people have been lynched over you since I started saying this.
by ekeknat
Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:58 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

woo for lynching all the coquelicot bad dudes
by ekeknat
Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:56 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

indiglo wrote: @ekeknat - interesting observations there. I will give it some thought. Remember too though, different civs have different win conditions.
I didn't think about this, fair enough.. fine with a BR lynch for this reason. Just if I die at any point, remember to lynch LC. I'm just darn right about this. I'll provide a few reasons, but first of all, I'd like people doubting me, if they believe I haven't presented a strong case about this (which maybe I haven't - I'm definitely new to mafia in this format), to present other options for who they think may be scum. It's really getting down to the bone here - we did waste some time lynching all three indies. We need to have concrete targets for Gay Parade mafia, especially considering it seems likely all three may be left.
Long Con wrote: What points did you think made sense? Just order the points from most convincing to least, if you don't mind. Numbered would be good. :) Thanks!
i'll oblige your smarmy smiley face request by making a case against you, though hopefully you're fine with the lack of numbers.

First, yall all know how gut reads are just, like, a part of playing mafia? When you're playing it in real life, maybe you get it from people's body language and whatnot. Here you've just got what people say and really contribute to the game to go off of, and from the beginning I've kind of had a feeling about LC. Your early posts seemed kind of like establishing yourself as civ presence without actually saying anything, and I just always got that vague read like I didn't WANT to trust you. As an example from early on (though your post history ITT is rife with things like this) around the time of Scotty's lynch for which he was Immortal, you and zebra were the two who pushed the subject to the point where he DID get lynched (and subsequently killed). To quote a dead man,
Scotty wrote: You're forgetting that I didn't ask to be lynched. You kept pushing it. You and zebra. But you were completely flumberbuxt with my answers.


Why WOULD he want to be lynched? You completely derailed the conversation here (and in a number of other places where you got called out). Another example is that failed Spacedaisy lynch train, started literally because she "seemed too civ" and hopped aboard by you because she had voted for you... days before.

The Typhoony lynch where I voted for Typh, partially because I read heavy WIFOM between the two: I was busy and jumped the gun hard this day - his role coming up was a bit of a facepalm for me. I definitely should've voted LC this day, since I only read Typh as bad in relation to how he was speaking to LC. If you go back and read over it, the case is made much stronger by him than I could make it myself.

I'm posting this now. If I think of anything else I'll come back and say it, but really, how much of this game is made up of just gut reads and feelings on people? At this point, town members, you believe me or you don't.. if you're not convinced, that's fine, but I'd like to hear your genuine suspicions.
by ekeknat
Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:33 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

At this point in the game, I definitely trust BR more than LC (not that I really trust either). I don't know if I'll have time to come back and vote later, so I'm going to stick my vote on him (LC). I would heavily caution against a lynch of BR on this day - if we do that, we leave Gay Parade mafia fully intact way too far into this thing.
Black Rock wrote: I think you're a gay parade baddie. That goes without saying since you were insanified. I think you think if I flip bad you will be safe.


I think this is worth taking into account. Don't be too convinced by anything a person does. I could easily see an LC/zebra team at this point, quite honestly - heavy doses of WIFOM thinking are required, due to their conversations, but don't write this possibility off at all with experienced mafia in this thing. At this point there are probably as many or more gay parade mafia left as there are gay parade townies, lending a bit of credence to the "insanity" theory.
by ekeknat
Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:23 am
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Re: [DAY 5] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

ugh, darn. RIP Typhoony, that was a horrible miscall on my part..
sprityo wrote: I've gotta reread still but I feel that it was no coincidence that everyone lynched typh so easily.
At that point, I was super convinced that Typh and LC were Gay Parade buddies together (a case bolstered in my mind by a conversation they had had earlier that day). I voted right after you and I was going to vote for one of them either way (in retrospect I definitely should have been more patient and hopped aboard the BR lynch train) so I decided piling the votes was safest. obviously I was wrong about Typh, who was an innocent darn soul. I definitely want to get LC out tomorow.
Typhoony wrote: Leaves BR/Zebra/Indiglo. No read on Indiglo.
On a meta level, I don't know if skycatguylover (better name) would have left if his role was "interesting" to him (though that reasoning could easily be completely off) and I get a pretty good read from Indiglo. I'm pretty sure BR is the last Coquelicot bad guy. Tomorrow we need to get her or LC out - I'd prefer LC, again so as to preserve the semi lack of coordination we have between mafias right now.

(sorry for calling you "he" before BR :^( )
by ekeknat
Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:19 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

also I misplaced a ) there in my first post, pls insert the one provided in a space where it looks like the paranthesis should close
by ekeknat
Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:17 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

sprityo wrote:Sorta clarification: I only interact with typh and I get roleblocked, therefore they are likely to be related and I should vote him


acknowledging this vote to head off any "bandwagon" accusations at the head - I was going to vote for one of them no matter what
by ekeknat
Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:15 pm
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Re: [DAY 5] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

So, at this point, I'm pretty darn sure LC and Typhoony are teammates. I'm not so sure about Black Rock (and at this point, it would be him alone on coquelicot side if i'm keeping track of things correctly - nutella switched MM over and they both died, and the role left that insanifies people is a civvy role. Since the kills switch off like they do between teams, I think it would be better to take one of them out this go around so as to preserve that lack of coordination between mafias. Since there's votes on Typhoony already, i'm going to go ahead and vote for him - think it would be a purty darn good idea to take one of them out today no matter what
by ekeknat
Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:14 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 4] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murd

if i die tonight, remember my face when I'm gone
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:34 pm
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Re: [DAY 4] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

also congrats to BR's daughter! all that college acceptance stuff can get super stressful - the nightmare is over! (for now)

also sorry if I use the wrong pronouns for anyone - I don't have most of yalls genders down
by ekeknat
Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:25 pm
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Re: [DAY 4] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

sorry for not voting the other day, I was busy and it kinda slipped my mind for a sec. i have been reading up, though. i'd say at this point in the game I've got good reads on two people in particular - I'd be down to lynch Black Rock, but I also get a pretty scummy air from LC. he was quick to jump aboard that iffy spacedaisy lynch train (her post after said train failed mentioned him as scummy but seems to have been rather (maybe purposefully) ignored, and he seems to have fallen off the radar since). he's been mid visibility this whole while and i think today has been something of an overstep on his part - I just definitely don't think Dana is bad based on that vote, i've got a real towny read on her.

If I've done my math right (and none of the dead people whose identities we don't know are baddies) there are four of them left altogether, which leaves space for other people to still be in there - if you're not comfortable voting BR, I'm placing my vote on LC and I think a lynch of him would make for a productive day.
by ekeknat
Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:55 pm
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Re: [DAY 2] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

skycatguylover98 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:skyguy what are your thoughts on the other two votes for Boulders?
not strongly either way. i think typhoony votes against boulders just because he finds the situation confusing, which is a little suspicious. gabe (ekeknat) is the real suspicious one, i have good reason to believe that they are working together both in the real life and in the game to defame me and lay ruin to my good, well-earned reputation.
LET ME LOVE YOU :(
by ekeknat
Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:44 pm
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Re: [DAY 2] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

Boulders wrote:
I find it funny how you would say such things about me yet evade every question about you yourself being a baddie.
i didn't evade any questions lol
Boulders wrote:
You know, it's kind of strange how you say skycatguylover98 is from the same IRC of you and me when I've never seen him before.
he's got a different name there. this is the funniest part of the joke because you keep using it as reasoning. good darn bants

How do you supposedly know this skycatguylover98 then? How do I know you aren't saying all of this shit about me because you are in cahoots with him?[/quote]

i'm just.... not. i do wish he would date me but that's irrelevant to this game
by ekeknat
Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:35 pm
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Topic: [DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder
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Re: [DAY 2] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

Boulders wrote:
ekeknat wrote:as far as me and typhoony's votes being placed at the same time... lol, I think if we were both baddies we would probably be a bit less conspicuous about voting and posting pretty much the exact same thing about a minute apart.
or you are new at the game and didn't think we would notice, if I could change my vote it would be to you because it is so obvious what you are trying to pull
alright bobby baroo. i'm not new to this game, actually
sig wrote:So Eke you are policy lynching since Boulder is annoying you!? I don't like this at all seems like a good scum reason to vote especially since you said you think he town. Right know I'm not liking Ekeknat or Zebra, for the phase I'll vote for eke.
i'm voting Boulders because even if he is town I know for a fact he's just in it to funpost at this point. Like, I know Boulders. I would go so far as to see we're e-friends outside of this game. And as such, I can see straight through this sheen of pretending to care about this game all the way down to the bitter cold apatheticness in his core. In his heart of hearts, he's just 'avin a giggle, m8s. And that's the darn truth. feel free to vote for me if that's bad reasoning, i'm shooting from the hip. It's better to have less confusion going on than more confusion, and Boulders in this game is confusion
a2thezebra wrote:That's cool, I just don't like how you actually think that Boulders would NOT do this if we were bad yet you're voting for him anyway.
well i think he's essentially useless and wasting our time with bull at this point. this is the most concrete opinion I have about what's happening right now so it's the one I'm going with. feel free to feel differently than me, but I think in a game like this we have time to work things out.

if yall find me suspicious feel free to vote for me. I would find it absolutely hilarious for me to go over Bobby here

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