The Syndicate

Death by Clayface, my least favorite Batman villain. Hopefully I get a chance to shower in the Lazarus Pit.

I intend to play more games on this site. You´re all a lovely bunch

Im going to bed now. See you tomorrow guys.

Linki Dharma that is just outright bandwagoning. I can´t remember you voicing suspicions on me, has anything changed?

DharmaHelper wrote:Lets lynch Nero.

Why?

Sabie is online. What are your thoughts on the stuff that has happened today?

Enrique I really wish you would explain why we shouldn´t vote for Matt. I already voted for him and it would suck so much if we happened to lynch an innocent person.

Explain please

linki Easy there SVS.

That goes for everyone. Don´t be mean if you don´t have to.

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Explain. I just cast my vote

Turnip Head wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Enriques case seems alright, and I also don´t like how much he tunnelled on me on the ground of some vague conspiracy based on tone reading.
I know you've never met Matt, but you basically just defined him as a mafia player.

I guess so. I just don´t see where the link between me and Enrique were outside of the fact that we both thought he was bad after he started throwing accusations left and right

Im going to vote for Matt.

Enriques case seems alright, and I also don´t like how much he tunnelled on me on the ground of some vague conspiracy based on tone reading.

Wanting to delay his lynch by the promise of further explaining is sketchy too. Right now it looks like he wants to buy more time to defend himself and hope that people won´t lynch him day 3.

Black Rock wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:My suspects thusfar, in no particular order:

SVS - I'm waiting for the shoe to drop on this one where I get accused of always doing this, or whatever, but I can't help legitimately finding the fact that she missed a vote after saying 10 minutes beforehand that she had to vote. Her explanations conflict with each other and don't make sense either. She got wrapped up in the Matt/Zebra conflict? OK ya sure. Except her "Better vote" post was her LAST POST before the 10 minute gap, her post following that was the one wherein she addressed her thoughts on Matt/Zebra. She had 10 minutes. Nobody'll follow me on this suspicion because I "always do this" or somethine lame but there you go. I probably won't vote for SVS today. I also intentionally put her at the top of this list after saying that it was in no particular order but that was only because I thought it was funny.

MP and Mac - For painting Scotty as confirmed civ and running with the Wilgy=Robin theory

Black Rock - TH's case covers this pretty well and it kind of bugs me she never followed through with a readthrough of me in particular because it's not like I'm buffing my post count or posting unnecessarily robust posts.
I got distracted. Maybe after the lynch but you haven't interested me much the past few days to worry about it. I still haven't read most of the thread and this particular time I am just trying to keep up with current events.

I see why Bea said she was highly criticized in the past by trying to get involved. Why is everyone worried about post count?
Did I use the words "post count"?
Um yes.
I meant to say did I seem at all concerned with your post count :P

The point I was making with my post count is that my posts for the most part aren't that superfluous or difficult to follow. and I'm not posting like six or seven times in a row or using big fuck-off paragraphs or posting one sentence per line or anything that would make a sincere re-read of me implausible.
I think I misunderstood. I will read you since you really want me to but I was only planning that at the time because I was trying to catch up through key players but I haven't bothered because I have changed tactics several times on how I am trying to attack the thread. I don't find you suspicious at this moment so I saw no point. Maybe your posts are insightful so I'll give it a shot.

Baddie alarm

There is no link to Sabies posts on page 1??

@Turnip Head interesting point about Black Rock.

The same case could possibly be made for Sabie. Im going to check her ISO right now.

Glorfindel wrote:I've had cause to come on and check this game thread a number of times today and I honestly can't recall an occasion where I have and Magnus (Nerolunar) hasn't been on as well and yet (once again) you post so infrequently my friend. I know this is all pretty heavy going and as you're new you are maybe feeling a little overwhelmed (as am I) but isn't there something you'd like to contribute or some observation you'd care to make

I am overwhelmed. I keep a tab open in my broswer and refreshes it occasionally. I hate having to read more than a few pages in one go, so I take it as it comes, especially that it´s Sunday and I don´t have anything else to do.

I believe both Mac and Bullz are town. They both seem genuine to me.

Im going to bed guys. See ya´ll tomorrow.

Why would anyone try to engage discussion on what their role does? Almost nobody joined me, but I can´t see how that would have benefitted me at all if I was the Riddler, maybe except the possibility that you guys would have thought that I was not the Riddler.

I think it is a vague read for "Top priority lynch".

I wish he would explain why I am his top baddie read.

juliets wrote:Nero why would Matt be trying to frame you?

I imagine it might be because Im somewhat of an easy target, being new and all that. Can´t know for sure though, his accusations just seem so desperate.

Linki He might be mafia and have no interest in going for the Joker, outside of the fact that the Joker needs the mafia dead.

Linki I see your point Zebra. However its still among one of the more solid cases I have seen today. I don´t think he is entirely genuine.

Its pretty good that we have lots of time to figure this out.

a2thezebra wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Im becoming more and more tempted to vote for Matt.
Because of his desperation to suspect you?

Partly. Enrique made a great case on him. I know for a fact that Im not the Joker, so Matt obviously targeted the real Joker but is trying to frame me, I think.

Linki I still don´t get why Im your top suspect?

Im becoming more and more tempted to vote for Matt.

Except he didn´t target me, because I am not the Joker

Nerolunar wrote:
Matt wrote:
Enrique who I'm betting is partners with Nero, so if I do get lynched, DO NOT let him get away with saying "Oh I guess Nero is good then", because I'm betting that's exactly what he'll say when I flip and I'm not mafia.
I wonder why you took my theory as hard proof that I believe you´re civ. As Enrique himself mentioned we can´t be sure that the Joker works that way and blocks are a thing too.
I specifically mentioned that I was just brainstorming for you guys to understand that I'm not at all convinced by myself. Just getting some thoughts out there, you know?

Very nice case Enrique.

I never assumed that the Joker works that way. I just mentioned that it was a possibility.

@ Sig: I didn´t know that. Still rubs me the wrong way how he glossed over my question considering the answer was that easy.

Seriously though, why would anyone carelessly vote randomly day 1? Your vote is valuable, dont throw it away like that. Not sure voting randomly is alignment-indicative to me, but I believe it´s wrong to not decide carefully how to vote (Or in my case, having to vote in a hurry because of time zones).

I read both Enrique and TH as slightly civ at the moment, Enrique being more civ than TH. By saying that I am not buddying up to Enrique, this is simply what I believe.

MP seems like he is trying really hard to look Town. I believe he might be an Indy. I haven´t thought of him in a long time, but he is to be included in my slightly baddie read.

Matt wrote:
Regardless, I think Nero should be lynched on grounds that he's my partner, your partner, Enrique's partner, the Joker, the Riddler, the Gingerbread Man, and Toto.

This is going in my signature.

sig wrote:Just a quick little note I think Nero has only played like one game, without a theme/abilities nearly as complex as this.

Where is Eke, Floyd, and Equivocate I'd like to see some more posts from them.

Thank you sig. Im doing my best.

Get out of your cave low posters

Honestly Matt I think you fear for your own life. Trying to raise a mob against me and what not.

Strong Civ reads: Juliets, Mac and Golden. They seem very genuine and has brought on some good points. I find myself to mostly agree with these people. I should include Scotty here too since I too believe that Wilgy was Robin.

Slight Civ reads: Sorsha. This guy seems very reasonable but doesn´t post that much which strikes me as odd. Dom and MP also strike me as civvy.

My scum reads are Dharmahelper, Matt and Metalmarsh. Especially Metal as he has not explained his weird behavior of voting Zebra at the beginning of day 1. I have ased him that question a few times now and keeps ignoring it. If he doesn´t answer I might go ahead and vote him. Dharma because he only usually pops in to comment on something then leaves. Matt because he is being somewhat desperate to get rid of me and his weird conspiracy that is simply not true.

Linki These knock knock jokes are getting so annoying.

You'd have to ask Matt, it makes no sense to me either. As far as I can tell Enrique suspects Nero but Matt took the fact that Enrique thought Matt+Nero were teammates and formed a conspiracy theory out of it.

Count me in on this. I can barely defend myself on account of these accusations.

Matt/possibly Enrique please elaborate why you find me suspicious.

Matt wrote:
Enrique who I'm betting is partners with Nero, so if I do get lynched, DO NOT let him get away with saying "Oh I guess Nero is good then", because I'm betting that's exactly what he'll say when I flip and I'm not mafia.

I wonder why you took my theory as hard proof that I believe you´re civ. As Enrique himself mentioned we can´t be sure that the Joker works that way and blocks are a thing too.
I specifically mentioned that I was just brainstorming for you guys to understand that I'm not at all convinced by myself. Just getting some thoughts out there, you know?

I don´t understand why you are suddenly putting me in a boat with Enrique.

Linki holy crap guys. Im NOT the Riddler, Im genuinely interested in what he does and I see no reason not to talk about it.

sig wrote:We don't know for sure if it was robin or not though, and laying out the information is different then the amount of focus your putting on Robin imo.

How exactly is talking about Robin "laying our information"? Most people advocate that Wilgy was Robin and he is dead. What happened last night is still a mystery and it´s not going to solve itself. Every lynch and NK should be used to gather information and to eventually arrive at conclusions. Being stale and avoiding burning subjects is far worse.

Linki @Enrique I understand your concern.

Lots of linki.

Im still just brainstorming. I can´t claim this to be true at all, but exercising ideas can´t possibly hurt.

Im not trying to stir up trouble or anything, I don´t want you guys to interpret it that way.

Renee(possibly Matt) targeted the Joker, becoming insane. I don´t know if the ability still works on the Joker or not, but if it doesn´t and nobody is silenced then Matt has to be Renee. It all depends on whether or not the Joker is still hit by the ability, but his role description doesn´t explain it.

This could go for any other role where the effect is easy to spot, though I don´t recall any other role where that is the case.

Im going to ask:

@Hosts: Is the Joker still hit by the ability that targeted him, even if he made the source insane?

Christ this linki.

Did anyone happen to be taken hostage/silenced by Renee Montaya? If no one is, then its likely that Matt is Renee and therefore civ.

Enrique wrote:Nero are you the Joker?

Nope.

Turnip Head wrote:I don't know why I've been calling you Neru all this time. Your name is clearly Nero.

I was almost about to mention it :P

I have no idea and I don´t want to look it up.

Nerolunar wrote: Im lacking scum reads on people right now. I don´t like how Metalmarsh instantly voted for Zebra, especially when we had a whole day ahead of us. Im still reading Zebra as slightly scummy, but Metals behavior still strikes me as odd. Elaborate on that please.

Metalmarsh please explain why you voted for Zebra at the beginning of Day 1. To me it felt very rushed, especially considering we had a whole day ahead of us to discuss.

Glorfindel wrote:
sig wrote:What do you think of Zebra with her info sharing, then after getting heat claiming it was a trap?
Why should we look into the map people more?
Also I've never been proven wrong in this context since I've never lead a lynch successfully on a civ before, but there is a first time for everything. I'll ISO and do a quick read over of your past two games and see what I see, but I think I'm right and that you are anti town this game.
I'll get back to you when I can Sig about your questions - thank you for posting them here for me.

As for your ISO, please be my guest. I am not afraid of an honest, transparent evaluation of my posts as it could only bear out the truth...

"I do none harm, I say none harm, I think none harm. And if that not be enough to keep a man alive, in good faith, I long not to live."
Thomas More - A Man for All Seasons.

Sorry Glorffy, but this seems kinda tryhard. We get you´re a nice person :P

You´re laying it thick here.

Welcome to Gotham Sabie

Guys I can´t stop thinking about the Riddler. What pinged me was the "Why do we fall?" question that someone(cant remember who) asked out of the blue. Could it be possible that the Riddler is supposed to ask a riddle every day and gets a bonus if someone answers or something? Im probably just grasping at straws here, but I like brainstorming so why not.

Get well soon, SVS.

Typhoony wrote:If there's one player in the game who advocated for sharing the info, it was sig. It's hard to read his posts and think otherwise.

I AM a mess.

I don´t think we should share information. But that´s what Sig is saying too, right? Or did I misunderstand his posts?

Im a mess.

I meant spelling mistakes.

Ignore the punctuation mistakes

I think it´s a good catch with the theory about Robin, although it is weird how Wilgy was killed immediately afterwards. IIRC Robin only has one instance of his ability? Then he would almost just be like a normal cop, just affiliated with Wayne Manor.

Im kinda siding with Sig in the debate on information sharing, although I do not think you should look at tone when searching Glorfindel. He is always polite whenever he writes something, and I can´t seem to spot a post where he deviates from this. I assumes this is true even when he is mafia. I do belive that both of thekm are civs though, but I do not think we should share information about the map.

@ MP can you elaborate on why I'm in the baddie end of your rainbow?

Linki

Sig, please explain why you didn´t break the tie.

Hey guys.

Im not necessarily suspicious of people who take SVS at face value, just kind of baffled if you could say so. I believe it´s definitely possible for someone/anyone to intentionally refrain from voting, even SVS. I don´t know her playstyle, and regardless of what you tell me I would much rather try to form viewpoints without any influence from meta.

From the eye of an outsider its just weird how you all seem to agree that this is SVS´s playstyle. Im not reeeeaaallly suspecting her, I just realized how much meta means to you guys and how much it influences your view on someone.

If I ever develop meta here, I would definitely exploit it once in a while.

Any combination of three night actions/votes earns a modkill. There is a possibility that someone would do it on purpose without getting punished.

I understand your viewpoint and I guess SVS probably didn´t do it on purpose, but dont deny that there is a possibility.

Im going to eat dinner and watch some TV. See you guys

Are you guys sure about that? She might have broken her meta and is trying a new strategy. Just because it´s traditional to do something doesn´t make it true.

Rubs me the wrong way that you don´t consider that option.

Im actually kind of happy Floyd survived so that he gets an opportunity to contribute. I hate voting in a hurry

Im not excited for tonights shenanigans. So many weird roles and so many potential outcomes. Im going to the police department tonight, as I suppose they might be able to provide some more hints. Wayne Manor is also an option for that, but Im with sticking with the GCPD tonight.

I misread Friday am as pm, so Im suddenly in a hurry to vote, as I'm going to bed soon.

I honestly don´t know, and its stressing me out that I have to vote for someone. Im considering Floyd, even though I don´t like lynching low posters. I did notice him being online earlier today while I was reading and he hasn´t posted. I know I did it myself, but at least I gave an explanation for doing it.

Yeah Im going with Floyd. Time zones suck.

Im interested in seeing the outcome tomorrow. Goodnight ya´ll.

I believe I might have worded my "shade" a bit too aggressive. Im not entirely opposed to lynching Turnip Head, but we still have lots of time left to decide.

I backed down because I realized my post looked way too determined compared to what I actually feel like. I am suspicious of TH more than some, but I will wait until some hours before EoD before deciding. A better lynch target might come up soon.

Btw Juliets Im in the same boat as you mostly - I too didn´t want to engage in all these mayor discussions. I guess that clears suspicion a bit.

Turnip Head wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Did go on yesterday and read from page 19-23 but didn´t have time to post.
I guess that means you didn't read Page 18 then? How convenient.

I believe I have read everything, though I do sometimes skip large walls of text that happens in large discussion. Fx some of Zebras earlier explanation posts.

@Juliets Thanks. By floaty I mean vague or distant/hard to read.

Bullzeye wrote:
Nerolunar wrote: I wish Bullzeye, Bubbles and Floyd would post more. Im interested in hearing some thoughts from them.
I don't know if I like being lumped in with those two. I may be a low poster but I now have seven times as many posts as either of them do and did say before the game began that I'd be missing the first few days. I didn't actually expect to be home until today, but work stuff came up so I came back early. I've made an effort to get myself involved and find some investment since I got back whereas Bubbles and Floyd seem not to have made an effort at all.

I might have glanced over you then. Sorry about that.

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