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by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:25 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

MacDougall wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would really love to hear what all of you think of thist post.

When I judge MP, I see a pile of little pings that continue to bug me, but that post is like running into a wall. I struggle to see a baddie in there. It looks to me like a gushing, spewing spicket of town. I am open to anyone disagreeing, I just need to see a reason.
I generally default to labeling emotional appeals as town behaviour until they've proven emotional appeals aren't off limits for them. An observation, hopefully it'll help you sort out your thoughts, is that what he's saying isn't strictly a defence for Ricochet the player in this game, it's more of a defence for him as a person.
I have made a point of noting MP has no qualms appealing to his own personal situations as defense when Mafia.
I'm aware that he did that in RoTTK, but I don't think he was aiming to manipulate anyone in that context. Do you have any other examples?

linki: maybe I'm an idiot :sigh:
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:13 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would really love to hear what all of you think of thist post.

When I judge MP, I see a pile of little pings that continue to bug me, but that post is like running into a wall. I struggle to see a baddie in there. It looks to me like a gushing, spewing spicket of town. I am open to anyone disagreeing, I just need to see a reason.
I generally default to labeling emotional appeals as town behaviour until they've proven emotional appeals aren't off limits for them. An observation, hopefully it'll help you sort out your thoughts, is that what he's saying isn't strictly a defence for Ricochet the player in this game, it's more of a defence for him as a person.
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:49 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

MacDougall wrote:
Quin wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Explain the Mafia context of that post? Are you saying that as Mafia I would post mortem try to claim townpoints for town reading a dead confirmed townie?
That's it. If you didn't vote for him at all then I don't see why someone independent from the lynch would have felt the need to justify an obsolete read like that.
I felt the need to point out that I thought his lynch was poor. He looked town to me. I was reading the thread in catch up as the day was ending without realising. I made the read to late to influence it. And I wasn't sure enough of it anyway to have caused a no lynch had I managed to comment just before the lynch.
What was the post that made you think he looked town?
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:32 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

MacDougall wrote:Explain the Mafia context of that post? Are you saying that as Mafia I would post mortem try to claim townpoints for town reading a dead confirmed townie?
That's it. If you didn't vote for him at all then I don't see why someone independent from the lynch would have felt the need to justify an obsolete read like that.
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:28 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 1

MacDougall wrote:There was one post Scotty made that someone pointed to that sounded really civvie that I was going to point out but I didn't notice the day had already expired when I saw it so that's a shame. Not that my 1 vote would have counted for anything. I wouldn't have voted to make it a tie or no lynch in the end so I couldn't affect the result.

Dom - Re your question ... To my nose, Sloonei has seemed half in half out. Some of his posts have been assertive and some of them have seemed non committal. I'll point some out when I am not at work.

Wilgy/Spirityo in the interest of fairness I wouldn't want to combine our powers as we would be far too powerful an organisation to overcome. It's just not cricket.
This post doesn't jive with me, Mac. This sounds like an attempt to wash your hands of a bad lynch.
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:06 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What do you think about the case I made for motel room?
I'm actually doing a quick ISO on him right now. I'll finish before I take a look to prevent bias, and then I'll let you know what I think.
Quin wrote:linki: Talk to me about things, 3J. I'm running on empty already :disappoint:
Of the people who have contributed the most in the thread, who do you think is most likely to be a bad guy?
If by 'most' you mean out of the five you separated in your own analysis, Sloonei and Mac are the only people who I've yet to find a reason to civ read yet. But I think that's for lack of effort to fully read their posts. I'd rather spend some time on that before I give you a name.

If I totally ignore your question and give you a name in the middle, Eloh is my biggest scum-read. I think her decision to cast suspicion on you for your roleplay was convenient, and I think she was backpedaling when she claimed it was just to get a reaction from you, because I don't see the train of thought or interactions in her posts that suggest that. Rather, I see her defending herself against you.
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:51 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:Mind explaining this ranking system you've got going on, 3J? How did you come up with the rankings in this post? Why do you think a certain number of baddies are more likely in each grouping?
To call it a "system" is probably a misnomer. I split the players into those three groups to get a more isolated look at them in the context of their activity level. Then, based on my own gut reads and my own theories about where in post ranks baddies most often exist, I made educated guesses about how the baddies might be distributed.

Basically, I think there is about an equal likelihood of one or zero baddies among the top four posters other than myself. Of them, I think Mac is the one I could most easily see as a bad guy.

The middle group looks to me like it could be a focal point for their team based both on who's in it and also on where baddies tend to lie in these distributions historically. The bottom group has similar potential, though I think slightly less. With four baddies I think the most likely distributions for top/middle/bottom are 1/2/1 or 0/2/2. It's my own way of organizing my perspective of the game without substantive objective evidence available.
The 'system' I was referring to was about the numbering, not the split. I got that you'd split the players up based on post count :nicenod:

What do you think about the case I made for motel room?

linki: Talk to me about things, 3J. I'm running on empty already :disappoint:
by Quin
Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:19 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 120793

Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In an attempt to better organize my thoughts about the game, I have split the 15 living players into three groups purely by post count. I will then make inferences about those groups.

Top five post count, not including me:

MovingPictures07
a2thezebra
Sloonei
MacDougall

If one of these people is bad, I think the most likely is Mac. I would rank the likelihood of the possible number of scum in this tier as follows: 1 = 0 > 2 > 3 > 4

Middle five post count:

insertnamehere
motel room
LoRab
Elohcin
sprityo

This looks like a potential hot bed to me. I've already stated some suspicions of Elohcin and sprityo. I have made a single positive assessment of motel room, but it's not the strongest thing and I wouldn't exonerate him right now. LoRab is a valid enough suspect even if my gut doesn't quite agree right now. INH is about the same thing -- he can be validly cased despite my gut uncertainty.

Same ranking: 2 > 3 > 1 > 4 > 0

Bottom five post count:

sanmateo / Quin
Dom
DrWilgy
Glorfindel
birdwithteeth11 / indiglo

I have liked Quin a lot since he came aboard. There's not much more he could do to show a pro-town mindset having replaced into a relatively large thread. Dom got off to a great start but has since tapered off. I think he looks like a townie at face value. DrWilgy is a prototype of himself, which is pretty null. Glorfindel has had understandably been unable to keep up with the game consistently; I do think though that he's more suspicious than most others. I'm not sure he's made the most of the opportunities he has had. indiglo hasn't been able to get involved yet, so that remains null.

Same ranking: 2 > 1 > 3 > 4 > 0
Mind explaining this ranking system you've got going on, 3J? How did you come up with the rankings in this post? Why do you think a certain number of baddies are more likely in each grouping?
by Quin
Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:10 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Had a quick look at motel room. I very much like this post.
Spoiler: show
motel room wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Dom wrote:MP, you've yet to set a coherent voice this game. You are doing whatever is convenient in the moment. You are buddying to me. I am suspciious of this.
I do not like the way Dom has asserted that MP is buddying him just because he's shaded in green on his rainbow.
I'm still weirded out by how quickly MP put me as town too, ftr.
This is the case MP made out in his favour:
Spoiler: show
motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm digging what you're throwing down, motel room.
Im really not throwing down shit but ok
You expressed your overestimation of available time; instead of letting that, and the fact that you are significantly behind in the thread, overwhelm you, you immediately dug into thread content and started providing reads on players and posts, even if few in number and not particularly substantial. I think it looks like you organically are baddie hunting (and mirrors your town game from what I've seen) and it is inspiring enough for me to move you up to a town read. Your behavior over the past half an hour or so is the perfect example, IMO anyway, of how someone a town player can jump into a thread even though he or she is behind and yet still inspire even with little quantity but some solid starting quality.

For those who watched or played MM's Trees game, your thread entry tonight reminds me of Quin 2.0's entry after he subbed in.
I.. ok
As far as I know, this is the first town-read made for motel room. I can see an inference in his response that he's not particularly fond of the case made for him, and reinforced later when he claims that the case was suspicious. I like that he's doubting and scrutinising those early reads, especially because I thought the case was good for Day 1. Ironically it kind of supports what MP said about his baddie hunting being organic.

side note: did I play a trees game? i don't think i did. :grin:
by Quin
Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:10 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

indiglo wrote:Well, I've read the past 5-ish pages or so... and that's not much. :puppy: My apologies, the internet in this hotel is pretty good, my brain is just too tired from prepping and traveling to focus much on mafia atm. I'm more at a veg out and fall asleep place. :scared: I do plan on getting more active just as soon as I can. I will not miss votes, but I feel bad about not being informed enough to use my vote to its full potential.

On the plus side, I really enjoyed all the episodes of the Mystery Show podcast that I got listened. That type of show is right up my alley, and it really helps the road time pass by quicker.
You've summed up my feelings post-catch-up and post-writing-like-three-reports-within-one-week :biggrin: We'll slowly but surely get into the swing of things. :doh:
by Quin
Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:07 pm
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Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm still most confident about Elohcin, but I also do not like the way LoRab immediately tried to spin SVS's death into something involving Eloh. It seemed like an unnatural response to me. I'd probably put her back near the top of my suspects list again.
I see where LoRab was coming from and I don't suspect her for it. LoRab's argument seemed to be based on the idea that someone was being framed, though I agree that she might be jumping the gun on that aspect. Even so, since Epignosis' death reflected on Eloh the most in that aspect, I can understand why LoRab would be guided down that road first.
I suppose I should loosen up on this LoRab theory since everyone else seems to be telling me it's not as much of a stretch as I think it is. It's just that my mind did not go anywhere near "they're framing Elohcin" when I saw SVS was killed, and it was bizarre to see somebody else's mind go there immediately. But that could be my own fault.
If your mind isn't going in the same direction as everyone else then by no means should you just retract your suspicion. What else about LoRab do you dislike? Is there anything in particular you do like?
by Quin
Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:02 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Sloonei wrote:I'm still most confident about Elohcin, but I also do not like the way LoRab immediately tried to spin SVS's death into something involving Eloh. It seemed like an unnatural response to me. I'd probably put her back near the top of my suspects list again.
I see where LoRab was coming from and I don't suspect her for it. LoRab's argument seemed to be based on the idea that someone was being framed, though I agree that she might be jumping the gun on that aspect. Even so, since Epignosis' death reflected on Eloh the most in that aspect, I can understand why LoRab would be guided down that road first.
by Quin
Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:14 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Arguably something that looks good for MP is the reads he's made after Dom's accusation of buddying him and taking the cards that are convenient for him as opposed to for the town. I would expect a baddie in that situation to distance himself from Dom by making reads independent from Dom's train of thought. MP isn't doing that, I'm seeing legitimate attempts to read the people in his posts that show he's not trying to avoid that scrutiny. I think this interaction with Dom is civ-on-civ.
by Quin
Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:35 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

I'm reading into both Dom's and MP's interactions with each other right now. Up until the point where he suggests he's being buddied, I can understand his suspicion, but I don't think I agree with it anyway. True, MP doesn't really indicate his feelings about Dom before the list and they barely have any associations anyway, but Dom's taking that neutrality and tried to twist it so much it just looks like tunneling to me. I'd like to have a condensed version of your full case against MP, Dom.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:58 pm
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Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 120793

Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

That's not specific to me, by the way. I think looking into the actual content of those arguments should be a priority for everyone today.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:49 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 3

Sloonei wrote:Quin, how caught up are you? Would you feel comfortable giving us any sort of list of reads or general thoughts at this point?
I don't have a list just yet, but one of the biggest thoughts in my mind right now is that I need to suck it up and actually scrutinise the shit storms that went on over the past few days, specifically involving Mac, zebra, MP and 3J (forgive me if I left anyone out). The content of those conversations were slightly repulsive and turned me off reading them, and in hindsight I'm wondering if that was intentional.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:26 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Sloonei wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:Your vote isn't so suspicious to me anymore now that I know the full context, but I'm still iffy about the way you went around developing your suspicion of 3J. Are you still suspicious of him? Why/why not?


I'm continuing my catchup. I don't know how you guys do this all the time :disappoint:
I initially accused JJJ of seeming like he was trying too hard with his roleplaying. But that was to see his reaction. I was trying to feel him out as I was not sure about him. But...I later said that even though his role playing confuses me and that I don't like it, I still think he is civ. So...not sure what you are talking about when you bring up the word suspicion.
I questioned this highlighted but at first, so I went back to have a look at Eloh's posts again with the idea that she was just trying to read Jay.
Elohcin wrote:I know nothing of this show, so JJJ is confusing me a bit. I may vote him. It seems a little 'trying too hard' to come in here role play like that right off the bat. Like he is trying to win us over. What do y'all think? And this is not WIFOM talking...whatever that is. I never understood that term completely. but you all seem to use it for when you go after someone who has gone after you? I don't know.

I'll hold off on voting for now.
This was her initial comment on Neil Hartley. I've been reading it all along as an earnest attempt to cast shade at Jay, and I can still see that being the case, but I also see nothing in this post excludes the possibility of this being an effort to provoke him. A problem that I would have with this notion, however, is that a move like this looks kind of out of place in the rest of Eloh's post history. This would be her only active move in the game that I can notice. Everything else she has done has been passive (self-defense, responding to others, etc.).

These were her next couple of posts:
Elohcin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I honestly don't know what to say in defence. There is nothing to defend against. Your role playing or lack thereof confuses me.
I'll take a break to state it clearly:

There is nothing inherently suspicious about roleplay. Sometimes people just want to goof around and have a little fun in Mafia games. There are always people who cast suspicion for it though, and some of those are smearers. Your suspicion of me looked fake, like you had to squeeze your brain really hard to generate something bad to say about the roleplay.
I don't ever squeeze my brain very hard this early in a game. I honestly thought it was weird behavior on your part. :shrug:
There is nothing present in these two posts that gives me a sense she is actively working towards a read of him. These posts are pure self-defense.

She makes a few more references to Jay on Day 1, but nothing really accusatory. On Day 2 she posts this:
Elohcin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Elohcin wrote:However, I don't agree with JJJ and his vote for me. Epi said it himself that he had no reason for voting/suspecting me.
One of the reasons you've gotten the attention of Neil Hartley for the wrong reasons is that you keep attributing my suspicion of you to Epignosis. Don't get me wrong, Epi is a top gentleman. He knows his stuff. You're talking to Neil though. You know, the main event? The man under the spotlight with the microphone who's been crooning the evening away so divinely? You're talking to me, not Epignosis.
It's weird. I don't know what it is. But your role-playing makes me cringe. (I'm not trying to be mean, just honest.) I think there are multiple reasons for this. First, you have always been such a logical, reasonable player. And this act seems to be the opposite to that. The second reason is difficult for me to explain. I am a very matter-of-fact person. Black and white. The role playing unnerves me for some reason and I think its b/c it seems like you are hiding behind it. Like you don;t have to be real or talk about real issues of the game b/c you are roleplaying. Maybe I am the one being weird, or who IS weird. Maybe I am bringing my own personality issues into this and shouldn't be. FWIW, I think you are civ.
The last sentence finally suggests there has been some sort of a process going on for Elohcin, or that she's simply given up on her early suspicion, or that it was all fake from the beginning and now she's just abandoned it altogether. I guess I am not totally convinced that Elohcin's original comment here was either true or false.

@ Elohcin, who are your current suspects and why?
My only gripe is that there's no explicit indication that getting a read of 3J is her goal. Her dialogue with Jay after that initial post is lackluster. The third set of posts you quoted, especially, it's all just self-defense. I think that her final 'I think you're civ' statement is backpedaling, though I'm not sure how to read that.


@Everyone: I've stopped my catch-up at page 20, so if there's anything in the past 10 pages you want my opinion on I'll have a look at it, but I think I can best gather my thoughts now that I'm able to actually to insert myself. :nicenod:
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:37 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 2

I think I'm just misunderstanding what he's said, actually. I retract any bad thoughts I have about Mac from this, because I see the train of thought that would lead Mac to flat out ignore Rico and lead into him antagonising him on Day 2.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:34 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

MacDougall wrote:Both Zebra and Motel Room have summed up my thoughts fairly well. Motel Room has drawn the same conclusions of Ricochet's play that has led to me reading the way I have, which is why I voted for Ricochet and Zebra explained exactly why I posted my first day 2 post when I dead, because I had stopped reading Rico's shit. Ricochet continuing to be antagonistic towards me on day 2 after dropping the policy lynch doesn't make me feel good as Mafia. Ricochet as well as the majority of the thread continuing discourse the involves me is annoying as fuck and my opening day 2 post reflects that, which Zebra adequately pointed out. Dom pointing out that the Ricochet/Mac stuff being unnoteworthy is also how I feel. It is annoying the fuck out of me that it continues.

Ricochet annoyed me for trying to policy lynch me day 1. I ain't about that life. That it started to bleed into day 2 started to . My first post reflected that. Zebra read well that I had stopped really reading his shit. Ricochet was not bad for it, but it definitely emotionally affected me. There is no way to say that bad rico wouldn't do it, or good rico is more likely because rico declared that he would do it before the game even started. He was all in on doing so before he drew a rolecard. So his day 1 policy lynch stuff is an absolute null.

Ricochet continuing to be hostile to me after that makes me think he is bad. I don't see any reason why he would feel the need to be antagonistic towards me, or make the post like "continue to kill whoever you want" if he is to be reverting to having a null read of me, which he should be. Motel Room did a good job pointing this out.

I think JJJ is trying to dig his scum teammate out of the shit tbh. It's easy to say "oh wifom as if he'd do that as bad" just as it's easy to say that he wouldn't have killed Epignosis, I love how he immediately ruled out the potential of he and a myriad of other players being responsible for the death of Epi because of interacting with him on the night immediately preceding Epi's death. I think JJJ is bad and is playing a very straight bat and leaning on wifom to throw us off. It's exactly how Wilgy and me play scum and tbh the fact that he referred to us as exponents of it makes me think he is extremely conscious that he is employing Maclike scum tactics in this game.

So far if I was to bucket people I would say I am reading Motel Room, Zebra, Dom and INH as civ because I can understand just about everything from them, there is no spin and it's easy to follow, and I am reading JJJ and Rico as bad because I can't rationalise some of their stuff. Everyone else is fairly neutral with the exception of Sloonei who I am gut reading bad but haven't got much in thread evidence to lean on. I think Dom is probably good.
If I gained anything from the 3J/Zebra argument its that Rico entered Day 2 without an anti-Mac agenda, so this whole post feels like an emotional appeal based on incorrect testimony.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:26 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

Elohcin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Elohcin wrote:However, I don't agree with JJJ and his vote for me. Epi said it himself that he had no reason for voting/suspecting me.
One of the reasons you've gotten the attention of Neil Hartley for the wrong reasons is that you keep attributing my suspicion of you to Epignosis. Don't get me wrong, Epi is a top gentleman. He knows his stuff. You're talking to Neil though. You know, the main event? The man under the spotlight with the microphone who's been crooning the evening away so divinely? You're talking to me, not Epignosis.
It's weird. I don't know what it is. But your role-playing makes me cringe. (I'm not trying to be mean, just honest.) I think there are multiple reasons for this. First, you have always been such a logical, reasonable player. And this act seems to be the opposite to that. The second reason is difficult for me to explain. I am a very matter-of-fact person. Black and white. The role playing unnerves me for some reason and I think its b/c it seems like you are hiding behind it. Like you don;t have to be real or talk about real issues of the game b/c you are roleplaying. Maybe I am the one being weird, or who IS weird. Maybe I am bringing my own personality issues into this and shouldn't be. FWIW, I think you are civ.
Is this the post you are referring to, Eloh?
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Sloonei wrote:birdwithteeth has not posted in this game yet. That is the entirety of the case against him. Scotty always votes a no-show or low poster on Day 1. Elohcin voted purely out of self-preservation.
But MacDougall had more votes than BWT when Eloh voted, yes?

I only skimmed this AM, I will read back to when I told Rico I was going to step back when I get home in about 1.5 hours.
If this is true then this looks bad for Eloh. A BWT wagon would be a lot less likely to take off than a Mac wagon since only one of them was actually around. It doesn't make sense for a self-preservation vote.
And as it's been pointed out, no...Mac and BWT both had 2 votes when I voted. But at the time I thought it was time for me to make a self preservation vote. I think we ought to get past this. Why is it you think I am so bad? Does your opinion stem from what others have said or is this all your own thoughts as you have caught yourself up after replacing in?
Your vote isn't so suspicious to me anymore now that I know the full context, but I'm still iffy about the way you went around developing your suspicion of 3J. Are you still suspicious of him? Why/why not?


I'm continuing my catchup. I don't know how you guys do this all the time :disappoint:
I initially accused JJJ of seeming like he was trying too hard with his roleplaying. But that was to see his reaction. I was trying to feel him out as I was not sure about him. But...I later said that even though his role playing confuses me and that I don't like it, I still think he is civ. So...not sure what you are talking about when you bring up the word suspicion.
I may have missed that post. That, or I just haven't come across it yet. Do you have any other reads?
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:57 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Views: 120793

Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Elohcin wrote:
Quin wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Sloonei wrote:birdwithteeth has not posted in this game yet. That is the entirety of the case against him. Scotty always votes a no-show or low poster on Day 1. Elohcin voted purely out of self-preservation.
But MacDougall had more votes than BWT when Eloh voted, yes?

I only skimmed this AM, I will read back to when I told Rico I was going to step back when I get home in about 1.5 hours.
If this is true then this looks bad for Eloh. A BWT wagon would be a lot less likely to take off than a Mac wagon since only one of them was actually around. It doesn't make sense for a self-preservation vote.
And as it's been pointed out, no...Mac and BWT both had 2 votes when I voted. But at the time I thought it was time for me to make a self preservation vote. I think we ought to get past this. Why is it you think I am so bad? Does your opinion stem from what others have said or is this all your own thoughts as you have caught yourself up after replacing in?
Your vote isn't so suspicious to me anymore now that I know the full context, but I'm still iffy about the way you went around developing your suspicion of 3J. Are you still suspicious of him? Why/why not?


I'm continuing my catchup. I don't know how you guys do this all the time :disappoint:
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:23 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 2

I'm at page 15 in my catchup, but I've still got some work to do tonight so I'll come back to it probably tomorrow morning. I'll definitely regret that decision. :haha:

My main train of thought right now is that Eloh looks bad. I'll give her a proper ISO at some point.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:18 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

DrWilgy wrote:@Sloonei I gut read you as bad from me due to a feeling of dancing around the pizza last night. A forced non-grasping of the Rico situation. This is heavily dependent upon other's alignements though.

@Sprityo I gut read you due to your request of wishing to team with Mac following mine.

@Lorab, yes that is what I stated. Your point?
What's your view on Sloonei now that you have an alignment to work with?
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:17 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

LoRab wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Glad Epi is dead. I was gut feeling him as bad and this makes my life easier.

Someone tl;dr me for day/night 1.
So, a civ is very likely dead and you are glad about it? Hrm.
His post caught my attention as well. Did I make a mistake letting it go based on the fact that it came from Wilgy? I don't think so.

Sloonei mentioned in a post that you were pinged by 3J's roleplay earlier, LoRab. Can you elaborate on why? Was there a reason to suspect him for it in this specific case, or is it based on principle?
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:13 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

S~V~S wrote:
Sloonei wrote:birdwithteeth has not posted in this game yet. That is the entirety of the case against him. Scotty always votes a no-show or low poster on Day 1. Elohcin voted purely out of self-preservation.
But MacDougall had more votes than BWT when Eloh voted, yes?

I only skimmed this AM, I will read back to when I told Rico I was going to step back when I get home in about 1.5 hours.
If this is true then this looks bad for Eloh. A BWT wagon would be a lot less likely to take off than a Mac wagon since only one of them was actually around. It doesn't make sense for a self-preservation vote.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:40 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 2

3J keeps breaking character when he's trying to talk about important stuff. He gets town points for this. Baddies hiding behind their roleplay aren't as likely to do that, because they're still in control given that they have insight that civs don't. They won't stress out.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:29 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 2

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I also neglected to mention... we have a birthday girl in the lounge tonight? Yeah it's past midnight now, but what the hell. Raise your glasses everyone for LoRab!
Happy birthday to LoRab, as well!! :beer:
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:26 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Ricochet wrote:Oh, and on MP, I have so far "hoping on lynches he doesn't even share the same views on" and "agreeing with my suss'd deflections without argumentation". Neither are ideal, clean moves, but they're also far from portraying MP alignment-wise.
This was a fair point from Rico, but I don't have full context, so I'll have to go back and read into it.

Question: Was Rico indie or civ? His role was listed as a civilian but described as indie so, uh. :shrug:
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:02 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 1

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:It pains me to disparage a lady, but I do believe Elohcin's response to that random vote from her husband was a bit lifeless. Considering she is here to see Neil Hartley live and in the flesh, I know she isn't that bored. The look on her face, it's giving Neil the wrong impression.
:ponder:
So yeah, it was like after midnight when I posted that response to Epi. Maybe that's why it seems lifeless. Last night was my monthly ladies night out and I didn't come home until I had my fill of caramel apple sangria.

I cannot even remember what emoji I used. Wait....I do remember. Was it was "I'm wacko" one :omg: ...I think so. That emoji makes me think of someone being crazy and silly with their post/vote. I actually didn't even look to see he ACTUALLY voted for me. I thought he was kidding at the time. Maybe I ought to vote him back :p But probably not as I might be voting to save myself with it being so close and all.

I know nothing of this show, so JJJ is confusing me a bit. I may vote him. It seems a little 'trying too hard' to come in here role play like that right off the bat. Like he is trying to win us over. What do y'all think? And this is not WIFOM talking...whatever that is. I never understood that term completely. but you all seem to use it for when you go after someone who has gone after you? I don't know.

I'll hold off on voting for now.
I think this post was looked into already, but I'm gonna jump on and say I don't like this. It's wordy and more-so centered around being confused by the act than it is being suspicious of it.
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:01 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 2

Thanks. I'm catching up. :grin:
by Quin
Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:42 am
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Effective immediately, QUIN is replacing SANMATEO and cannot be NK'd tonight.
suck on that, losers :keys:


I'd appreciate it if y'all could give me some time to get my real life workload out of the way before I invest myself too deeply here. I've got multiple reports due today I need to touch up before I submit them so my activity is going to be spotty probably just for this phase. After that, I can participate as I usually do :srsnod:

I've been following along to a certain extent (though mostly just skimming tbh), so I'd love it if anyone could sum up some of the more important things or give me some direction so I don't have to re-read 30 pages. There's a lot of invested people in this game so that would be no quick task. :srsnod:
Team JaggedSlooneiSock and Team Maczebrahere are locked in a heated battle of mostly townie contention.
What does mostly mean? Are you against either Mac or zebra?

I'm gonna suck it up and read the thread again because surprisingly enough, asking people to summarise 30 pages didn't work out too well. :P
by Quin
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:50 pm
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Re: MAD MAX: Night 2

MovingPictures07 wrote:And welcome, Quin! I think replacements can sometimes offer unique insight into what is occurring in the thread, so I look forward to your perspective once you're current with the thread. It's good to have you in the game.
Let me know what you'd like my opinion on. :nicenod:
by Quin
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:48 pm
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Topic: MAD MAX: GAME OVER
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Re: MAD MAX: Day 2

G-Man wrote:
Effective immediately, QUIN is replacing SANMATEO and cannot be NK'd tonight.
suck on that, losers :keys:


I'd appreciate it if y'all could give me some time to get my real life workload out of the way before I invest myself too deeply here. I've got multiple reports due today I need to touch up before I submit them so my activity is going to be spotty probably just for this phase. After that, I can participate as I usually do :srsnod:

I've been following along to a certain extent (though mostly just skimming tbh), so I'd love it if anyone could sum up some of the more important things or give me some direction so I don't have to re-read 30 pages. There's a lot of invested people in this game so that would be no quick task. :srsnod:

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