The Syndicate

Golden wrote:Also... I think it's fair for me to say this? Ika was targetted by every single negative power on night one. He was sent to the brig, insanified, killed and I can't even remember what else.

Epignosis wrote:I think (I don't keep up with this stuff):

1. sig
2. Long Con
3. Silverwolf
4. Vompatti (he ended up silenced)
5. JJJ
6. rabbit8
7. SokothQultuq
8. G-Man
9. Polo
10. Black Rock
11. ObscureAllure

I don't think I got targeted with anything this entire game.

I had 3J's role figured out due to the more realistic shift in tone in the admiral's posts during the second half of the game.

It would seem I was right about S~V~S not throwing nutella under the bus and nutella being alone. I was pretty proud of myself with narrowing down Glorfindel's role, and even though he was good at the time, the fact that he could have ended up on the side of evil is enough for me. I also felt pretty smart driving the Dex lynch based on the 2:2 ratio. The spacedaisy lynch was a combination of tone and Dex's treatment of her. And of course, with G-Man, I felt like I was on to something when he mentioned "another thread."

I'd say I had a solid performance there for a change.

S~V~S wrote:

Polo wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I tried to kill Polo, I believe that was MM that foiled me, maybe day 3, I think? It was a few days before he began to suspect me. I used up night protections on INH & JJJ, those were the two fail kills in a row. The last night that I killed Black Rock, I was going to initially kill JJJ, but I was not sure if being jailed blocked me, so I decided to kill someone who was unlikely to be protected, being as she was mostly afk, instead as a test just in case G Man survived and we got in another kill.

I think Polo was the MVP, and I am not sure about roleplay, tbh.

Did you expect anyone to figure you out that early?

You caught me out fair & square; no need to gloat

S~V~S wrote:I tried to kill Polo, I believe that was MM that foiled me, maybe day 3, I think? It was a few days before he began to suspect me. I used up night protections on INH & JJJ, those were the two fail kills in a row. The last night that I killed Black Rock, I was going to initially kill JJJ, but I was not sure if being jailed blocked me, so I decided to kill someone who was unlikely to be protected, being as she was mostly afk, instead as a test just in case G Man survived and we got in another kill.

I think Polo was the MVP, and I am not sure about roleplay, tbh.

Golden wrote:I'm sure there's heaps else I should cover so... feel free to ask. Here are some other notes...

Polo and SVS were targetting inh and JJJ back and forth on alternative nights for a while... except they were out of synch with each other so Polo never actually stopped a kill. Both of those two had nk protects which were both consumed.

INH was constantly getting his PMs in after the fleet was jumped, but always on humans (so the negative results he got were accurate despite them being based on nothing). Then he targetted SVS on the one night Jay decided not to jump...

LoRab cottoned on to the idea her win condition might be tied to her night power so she stopped using it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Polo wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Polo wrote:If OA is Cylon with Wilgy, then G-Man is going to flip Doral tonight. It's logical.

Please explain this logic to me. Quickly.

ObscureAllure said this about Wilgy: "he's NOT Caprica Six.". I think she may be in fact Caprica Six.

Wilgy is a confirmed Colon and must be Leoben Conoy because he has been behaving like a Civ or, at the very least, Indie, since shit got serious here.

G-Man has been showing S~V~S-ish behaviour (bussing teammates when necessary) and he looks like he's been playing this game with caution, much like a sniper. I do think he's Colon and on the Cavil-aligned faction and I'm not afraid of lynching him tonight.

It sounds like you care about lore. Do you care about lore?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Polo wrote:If OA is Cylon with Wilgy, then G-Man is going to flip Doral tonight. It's logical.

Please explain this logic to me. Quickly.

ObscureAllure wrote:

Polo wrote:I have to admit; I'm kinda scared of being NK'd tonight.

Did you agree to a recruitment?!

Nerolunar wrote:Putting Cavil in the brig now.

G-Man wrote:Aaron Doral is either DrumBeats or SokothQultuq if Wilgy is indeed Leoben as many of us think. We know Wilgy is a Toaster since his lynch was bypassed after he claimed on Day 5 so he has to be one of the two. All thread discussion of him points to Leoben, so Drum or Sokoth are Doral on my spreadsheet.

I have OA down as Caprica Six. Given her hard defense of Silverwolf, I had them pegged as BTSC partners since Day 5. Given Silverwolf's all-but-certain civvie status, I never felt all the way suspicious of OA because of what looked like a very obvious link between the two.

What are your thoughts on DrumBeats and Sokoth?

G-Man wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man, I want to know what conclusions you draw from those technicolors.

All of the following players look civvie to me based on the combination of their voting records and their thread content:

-Epignosis (votes and content suggest civvie)

-JaggedJimmyJay (solid thread content makes up for a few votes that could be tin-foiled as baddie)

-juliets (you can tin-foil her post-rezz votes but her posts come across as genuine)

-Matt (votes don't look great but his erratic behavior seems too visible for a baddie)

-Nerolunar (putting S~V~S in the brig settled it for me and outweighs any issues that might be raised about his vote for Epi Day 9)

-Polo (despite some blendy early votes his record improves, the tone of righteous indignation in his posts comes across as too sincere to fake for as long as he's been had the volume up to 11)

-rabbit8 (Neither his nor Zebra's vote records is spotless but they both have that DGAF attitude that requires better looking votes from a baddie)



The rest have missed either too many overall votes or too many recent votes for me to effectively use my technicolors in conjunction with my notes:
-Black Rock (missed 5 votes, missed 3 of last 4 votes)
-DrumBeats (missed 3 votes)
-DrWilgy (missed 6 votes, missed 3 of last 4 votes)
-Ricochet (missed 3 votes, missed 2 of last 4 votes)
-SokothQultuq (missed 6 votes, missed 3 of last 4 votes)

Two of these players I am still very suspicious of (DrumBeats and Sokoth) and one of them slightly suspicious of (Wilgy). I will break all five of them down later this evening to explain how I clear the other two.

The other two players left are ObscureAllure and sig. Given the weirdness of Day 6's non-lynch, I still believe sig to be one of the human civ's on the list of potential presidents. I only barely suspect OA.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

juliets wrote:Well that was an interesting post by Cavil that obviously should have gone in her bts chat. It looks like she's talking to one other person so maybe there is only one more for us to find and lynch. The thing I'm questioning is why it matters if Polo has mentioned this other person or not? Does it have something to do with that person doing the kill tonight? It looks to me that Polo may have been marked for the kill and may be the revenge vote Cavil is talking about. I'm just guessing here, who has another interpretation or potential answers to the questions I have about this.

My interpretation is that Cavil did that on purpose and it should be taken with a grain of salt. Or the entire shaker. But just for fun, let's see who Polo hasn't mentioned:

Number of mentions or direct contact by Polo of remaining players:
Black Rock - 5 (4 in reads lists/gth)
Drum Beats - 8 (4)
DrWilgy - 44 (4)
Epignosis - 46 (4)
G-Man - 17 (4)
juliets - 9 (2) - 6 post-resurrection
Matt - 16 (4)
Nerolunar - 16 (1) - 8 post-resurrection
ObscureAllure - 34 (4)
a2thezebra / rabbit8 - 31 (4)
Ricochet - 35 (4)
sig - 34 (4)
SokothQultuq - 15 (4)

The grand winner of this sweepstakes is... nobody. Black Rock is the closest it gets and she hasn't been around the game to warrant being talked about. After that I guess you could say DrumBeats. I think this is worthless.

Polo wrote:Who do I want to lynch tomorrow?

From FRAK YEAH to MAYBE

G-Man > ObscureAllure > DrWilgy > Matt

John Cavil would be before G-Man if it weren't for the "could be unlynchable for now" dillema.

Ricochet wrote:I'm ok to try lynching Cavil if:

a) there is genuine, common belief that Cavil's status ranges from everything possible, except he is last to die

b) there is no clear, common perception of who the other Cavil-aligned cylons might be (particularly Doral, maybe even Conoy)

c) Matt posts all his 977 theories, otherwise we have to lynch him

d) we experience a favorable night phase, perhaps one with no nightkill, as to consider the risk of wasting another lynch on Cavil and losing civilian lives in the process to be slightly reduced

ObscureAllure wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:

Polo wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Okay, so who do I send to the brig today?

Any ideas?

Either Spacedaisy or G-Man! There's Wilgy and OA, too, but I'd rather go after the first two.

I honestly don't understand how you can go from calling me out as a good Cylon Obscure Six to picking on me for everything you want done (silenced, lynched, etc.) Make up your mind. Either I'm obscure six or I'm bad. If you really are going to name drop who I am, at least have the decency to stop coming after me when you know damn well the role of Six is Civvie.

OA, I want a one-word answer to the following question:

Do you suspect Polo?

One word. Don't give me a bunch of shit. One word.

The answer isn't one worded. I don't think he's a Cylon. I don't know otherwise.

No no no. I don't care about whether he's a cylon.

Do you suspect him of being bad?

He's either an info role or F5 given what he's known. I'm more inclined to think he's an info role based on his play, but I don't get why he's not dead yet if he is, which makes me think he might be bad. So I don't know. I guess he could be a well protected info role and be good. Or lucky.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Cool beans.

I think there's a decent chance Spacedaisy was bad all game long.

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:So say we all!

I think we need to kill Cavil's crew before killing him.

Juliets: definitely town
Nerolunar: definitely town
Spacedaisy: definitely Mafia

I think the Admiral is doing a great job.

@sig: we need to kill Spacedaisy and G-Man. G-Man first.

Can you elaborate on this? You are more sure / insistent that G-Man go first, but it looked like you just plucked his name out of a hat. It looked like you plucked S~V~S's name out of a hat too, but that was spot on.

Tell me more about G-Man.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't think it benefits town to silence anyone; that does nothing but inhibit the production of readable content. If the brig cancels a vote too, I would give Matt a break here and use it against a consensus top suspect whose vote might actually turn a lynch over.

Or just don't use it if you don't have to.

Nerolunar wrote:Okay, so who do I send to the brig today?

Any ideas?

Nerolunar wrote:I believe Dex is bad, Epig.

I need to vote because I'm going to bed. I'm still leaning bad on you Epig but the point you are raising against Dex looks reasonable. Makes me wonder if Glorfindel really was bad/seemer. Out of the other F5 I like Juliets way more than Daisy.

Vote Dex

John Cavil wrote:If you're gonna be an outed baddie, you might as well have fun with it, right?

Better for you guys to die laughing than to die angry

John Cavil wrote:So say we all!

....by my command

Yay back from jail just in time to be rid of that silly 10 posts rule I look forward to going back in another day for some R & R.

That was rather mean of you picking on poor Dex He worked so hard for you gelatinous bloodbags the first time around.

This is my list of reads for today since I was unable to comply with Adamas directives yesterday, and God only knows complying with Adamas directives is always at the top of my list.

Black Rock
DrumBeats
DrWilgy
Epignosis
G-Man
insertnamehere
JaggedJimmyJay
John Cavil
juliets
Matt
Nerolunar
ObscureAllure
Polo
Rabbit8
Ricochet
sig
SokothQultuq
Spacedaisy

GOOD

BAD

Have a good rest of the night; always remember the night is dark & full of terrors.

ObscureAllure wrote:Go for it. Lynch me. You guys have been so blindly led by the Mafia (who aren't even effin CYLONS! for the most part!) to kill all the cylons. I've been literally harping on it since the big inning of the game, I don't know how much more vocal I can be with out getting punished again. You're hunting the WEONG PEOPLE!!!! You want to kill all the good cylons while the bad humans win the game? Go for it.

PS: my vote for polo wasn't weird, it was annoyance for something he did to me. DERPPPPPPPPP

G-Man wrote:Agree with you I do that Dex looks suspicious. Different our reasons are that lead us to this conclusion.

Vote now I will. Hockey must I watch. Pain must I ice.

vote = Dex

Post 6 of 10 this is.

Nerolunar wrote:I believe Dex is bad, Epig.

I need to vote because I'm going to bed. I'm still leaning bad on you Epig but the point you are raising against Dex looks reasonable. Makes me wonder if Glorfindel really was bad/seemer. Out of the other F5 I like Juliets way more than Daisy.

Vote Dex

juliets wrote:

Polo wrote:Post #5

I think ObscureAllure is Caprica Six for reasons I've mentioned before; and I am as sure of this as I was of S~V~S being Colon.

I am sad that you decided to vote ME, OA, because I am civ and this is not a vote that will do any good to the civ team.

Why not go after Wilgy like you said previously, who is a confirmed Colon and one that you know is NOT Caprica Six?

@Polo - do you believe Caprica Six is civ or an indy or bad? Could you explain why for any of those answers? I was impressed that you were able to name SVS as Cavil and so I tend to believe you on this but I'm not sure what to do with the info not being sure what alignment Caprica Six is.

@Obscure Allure - I have you down as bad because during the argument about whether you were going to state your alignment you kept saying you would be punished if you said "I am a cylon". Nobody else got punished for saying that so your reason seems suspicious to me. I assume you are a cylon and since you didn't claim you are a bad one but note my suspicion is based again on the reason you gave for not claiming. HOWEVER, Polo's post is interesting and depending on what he or others say in response to my questions i may move you off my baddie list. If you reply to this just don't expect an answer right away as I am trying to conserve my posts. I will be interested to hear why others see you as bad.