The Syndicate

Miles Davis wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:

Miles Davis wrote: Cool, thank you for making it so easy for us. For the record, when I'm town, I act just like I have been acting this game, and when I'm bad I usually post in yellow.

You're welcome.

you know zeb, lining up lynches is an easy way for scums to have a feild day right?

Unless they're lined up on scums.

well your lining it up on 2 towns. do you have any games that show any real accracy doing this? every game i have seen and played when ppl have doen this it eneded up on twon after town

Chris Potter wrote:I'm feeling that Mingus and Davis are baddies here, folks.

if you vote one of them i would be willing to join.

i want to mingus due to the NKA still i am not clearing him yet. if we dont lynch him i want a cop check on him

that being said. i would not be surpised to see silver join us on this if you vote one of them

Billie Holiday wrote:
I don't care if you let it slide. I'm town and so is Fleck. You wanna know how to read ika? It's simple. Does he have an agenda? He's scum. Does he run around like a chicken with his head cut off, he's town. Also, scum paint associatives with town all the time, which is what I think happened here.

I didn't say your posts were garbage. I said to line up my lynch because I'm defending Fleck is garbage. There is a difference.

That pretty much sums me up for the most part. As scum i run an agenda, i plan, i work, i do so much more. not only that if i was scum silver would of been dead already. i would of killed her n1.

that being said, if you guys ever see me sign for a game dont be afraid to shoot em a pm, i dont care about out my meta. i will openly tell you how i plan on playing as scum and town in any game i sign for.

why the fuck is otto guy self voting?

Billie Holiday wrote:

Charles Mingus wrote:

Billie Holiday wrote:

Charles Mingus wrote:Why is Fleck civ and Hiromi isn't?

Because HIromi is voting on the civ counterwagon to scum. Fleck is acting very town based on meta-I know who this is since he alt slipped.

Votes aren't everything, you said yourself right after this post that we need to look at overall play. I think Fleck looks significantly worse than Hiromi, and that's coming from what I've observed from their overall play, not just their votes.

OK, But I know ika and this look like town ika. I'd be willing to bet the game on it.

Hi bby, i love you!

Charles Mingus wrote:

Billie Holiday wrote:

Charles Mingus wrote:Why is Fleck civ and Hiromi isn't?

Because HIromi is voting on the civ counterwagon to scum. Fleck is acting very town based on meta-I know who this is since he alt slipped.

Votes aren't everything, you said yourself right after this post that we need to look at overall play. I think Fleck looks significantly worse than Hiromi, and that's coming from what I've observed from their overall play, not just their votes.

welocme to my world i dont care about self image nor do i care about plays. i care about lycnhig scum. you read me on play how youa re now you will alwasy scum read me

learn to knwo that play isnt everything and that im takign many outside factors as well

Charles Mingus wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:

Charles Mingus wrote: It is absolutely ludicrous. To bus the godfather on Day 1, if successful, would be to trade a cop-proof role for an everyone-proof role. Is it a bold plan? Bold doesn't cover it. But to say that it makes no sense is a flat-out lie, because you know that it does and that you know that it is beneficial for the godfather's teammates.

and heres the part where i say that i could of easily moved my vote with the interaction after his post.

so plz tell me more about my grand plan to outbeat POE. your not refuting ym points so it only makes my ideal stronger

See you wonder why I haven't been covering more of your territory and this is why. Misrepresentation is crack to you.

Get this through your head: It doesn't matter if you could have easily moved your vote or not. The same goes for everyone on the Buble wagon, including myself. If the goal of bussing Buble is to get an insane amount of town cred, more so than the amount that Buble himself would have had had he not been bussed, then that goal can only be achieved by actually bussing him. As in, voting him, and not changing your vote. Initially that puts us at about the same level of potential suspicion, but the reason I'm voting for you is because you refuse to accept the possibility that bussing Buble was possible, let alone probable, and your mindset consistently reflects that of a baddie trying to wiggle your way out of any meaningful confrontation by feigning unwarranted confidence in your nonsensical arguments and views.

Heres where we are diffrent, thikning about a conspricy theory of bussing is really counterproductive and leads to a shit fuck of paranoia. i know people cna bus, it doesnt change the cnetla point tat POE still wins. not only that but going "OMG LETS LYCNH SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE BUSSING" day 2 is even more counterproductive. i much rather look outside of that first.

What happens if nobody bussed int he end and you decided to lycnh 4 towns back to back? you wasted time and pretty much lsot the game.

i dont consider it on day 2 cus its like picking the neddle in the haystack.

Charles Mingus wrote: It is absolutely ludicrous. To bus the godfather on Day 1, if successful, would be to trade a cop-proof role for an everyone-proof role. Is it a bold plan? Bold doesn't cover it. But to say that it makes no sense is a flat-out lie, because you know that it does and that you know that it is beneficial for the godfather's teammates.

and heres the part where i say that i could of easily moved my vote with the interaction after his post.

so plz tell me more about my grand plan to outbeat POE. your not refuting ym points so it only makes my ideal stronger

Charles Mingus wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:

Charles Mingus wrote:

Billie Holiday wrote:It makes zero sense.

Yes it does, and here's why:

Billie Holiday wrote:He's my strongest town read in the game right now.

That's all the motive a baddie needs. I don't care how impractical the plan seems, it's still a plan, and it shouldn't be disregarded as a possibility.

And you completely ignored my post that shows that it doesnt matter.

It's ludicrous and anyone paying attention to the game recognizes that. The same goes for the majority of your ISO.

its not ludacris to show that a cop and POE is suprior ot any play that can be made

Charles Mingus wrote:

Billie Holiday wrote:It makes zero sense.

Yes it does, and here's why:

Billie Holiday wrote:He's my strongest town read in the game right now.

That's all the motive a baddie needs. I don't care how impractical the plan seems, it's still a plan, and it shouldn't be disregarded as a possibility.

And you completely ignored my post that shows that it doesnt matter.

I like how bad charles is in this game. He should be checked next

so miles is a2zeb

fun times!

John Coltrane wrote:

This makes no sense, as I said I'd have told him to wagon on me or vice verse, I was fine with where my vote was at 5:30ish. When I popped back in right before the deadline I wasn't in the lead so I left my vote on the player I thought to be most likely scum

So you actually bring up the post where I said I was voting for Navarro and that means I'm bad, but you also said I was a no lyncher?
The only other thing you've got agaisnt me is not wanting to discus socks, which I still don't want to do.

You're either mafia trying to find a weak reason for voting me, or you're a confused civ.

So you dont have a read on the person and your jsut setting yoruself upto be ale to lynch them down the road, good to know

John Coltrane wrote:

Billie Holiday wrote:Oh wait sorry. Coletrain was on Navarro. Still a good lynch for today although I would like to take a look at those on the CW and ISO Buble as well before day ends.

You've got no clue at all do you? If you don't even know if I was a no lyncher or a voter then that shows you really aren't invested in making a case. You're trying to make a fake case to get me lynched plain and simple.

linki: That makes zero sense. And is WIFOM to the extremeeeeeee. Since this one player suspected me, I night killed him? When I was set to lynch him for leading the counter wagon on the mafia.

I think you're the mafia and you're trying to get me lynched. Usually the first player to bring up the NK is mafia and you not only bringing him up, but bringing him up in an attempt to lynch me isn't nice.

3 things:

1) jsut cus you were a counter wagon does not mena you are town
2) dicrediting me and not giving reads ot anything only makes me more conviced you are scum
3) you just said im mafia for bring up NKA but here you are not voting me, shows a disconect and do you ahve game to show that maifa is the one who brings it up more then not?

Miles Davis wrote:What's "SO NKA"?

so Night kill analysis

SO NKA leads to Coltrane being scum here.

He was going after Coltrane last.

I was tired at the time of my posting i was working 2 diffrent jobs back to back

Miles Davis wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:Wigly was going after navro last before he died. im jsut going with some occam razor on this

Wilgy was Navarro, man! This doesn't make me feel better about you at all.

welcome to me being tired and not reading right

Is anyone here?

also checked his vote, he was the no lynch voter

Wigly was going after navro last before he died. im jsut going with some occam razor on this

That.......

Why?

anyways. i want to purge the counterwagon voters next

Miles Davis wrote:

John Coltrane wrote:I agree with Fleck here, it makes zero sense to bus the gd day 1 when they could've easily voted for another wagon. Assuming there are only 3 mafia members, they are down to two. The cop can red check both the living players. The mafia has just lost their most important player.

I also think we should look into the player who didn't vote, could be mafia there.

Lots of assumptions here, Trane. You have some sheet music the rest of us aren't aware of?

He makes a lot more sens ethen you do. occam razor is the msuic i see here

Vince Guaraldi wrote:Coleman never really took a stand and only had one concrete thought Day 1. Not many posts there.

Coltrane was justified in moving past sock-hunting. It's not a fruitful exercise here because we don't know who all is playing. Now he did flip-flop in only a fee measures on Bela. First he said none of the Buble votes looked bad but then said Fleck could be. Strange but not terrible. I disagree on his bussing comments. In a game this small, bussing a teammate on Day 1 could provide crucial cover and put you on the trail to victory.

Davis was largely absent Day 1 with just a few riffs here and there. Nothing very above the radar at all. He could have hidden behind my vote but it would look worse to blindly glom on. He's been laying down some wisdom tonight though. As long as he's not trying to build a Day 2 train on Fleck, I'm cool with him for now.

i disagree also, POE is what my point is.

Miles Davis wrote:Fleck, you are talkin' all kinds of mumbo-jumbo here now. Not too impressed with your lack of grace under pressure.

Bela Fleck wrote:Like if your so adamant to say his point is superior to mine, explain my grand plan outside of the idea of town cred

First, he said I have a point. He didn't make any judgment calls on whether or not it was superior, you added that in. You tried to change the conversation.

Second, it makes no sense to ask to explain the idea of bussing "outside of town cred". Bussing is about getting town cred. Period. Again, you're trying to change the conversation.

no im not, my point that seems to be missed is this:

if there are 3 scum (ideal number for 13p), that menas with GF that a cop exist.

now we lycnh GF, its now 2v10 with 1 confirmed (cop), lets say he checks a town and mafia nk someone (not cop or check target), thats 2 scums vs 2 confirmed and 7 unknowns. lets repeat this a few times

2 scums vs 3 confiremd and 5 unknowns
2 scums vs 4 confriemd and 3 unknonws
now lets say we lynch a sucm here
1 scum vs 4 confirmed and 3 unkowns.

at this point its autowin for town no matter what.

my point im making why scums didnt bus is this: cop can make the game POE where scums, no matter how town they are cant win.

Bela Fleck wrote:

Miles Davis wrote: You are aware of the normally desired benefits that result from successful distancing from a scum teammate, aren't you?

and are you aware how the entire play went out? Are you aware that in a 3pr game that scums will prob fight a little more to keep a GODFATHER alive and not go "lol bus"

Tell me how its better play to bus a GF on day 1 and hope for town cred than jsut vote elsewhere based on how the dicussion went

I assume that by "3pr game" you meant "13 player game"?

I didn't SAY you are the kind of player who make smart choices, I have no solid opinion on that front. Maybe you are a balls-out risk-taker.

The FACT is that you have been listed as the towniest town that ever towned on several lists already.

Let that sink in for a second, and consider whether or not you really need to ask me how it would be a good play.[/quote]

no i ment 3pr and that means power role. gf is one no? cop is 2, doc i coudl see being 3rd.

i know im town on sevral people but your continued beltttlement is very scummy to me. im showing that scum are bascily making sucide with bussing day 1 due to POE as i stated earlier

Charles Mingus wrote:I would totally bus Buble. I didn't, but I totally would, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

Because?

Charles Mingus wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:

Miles Davis wrote: You are aware of the normally desired benefits that result from successful distancing from a scum teammate, aren't you?

and are you aware how the entire play went out? Are you aware that in a 3pr game that scums will prob fight a little more to keep a GODFATHER alive and not go "lol bus"

Tell me how its better play to bus a GF on day 1 and hope for town cred than jsut vote elsewhere based on how the dicussion went

Like it or not, Miles has a point. Don't deny it.

Not really? Like i said, bussing a GF on day 1, which means cop exist, is suicide play. My point about me easily being able to change my vote after his post still stands.

Like if your so adamant to say his point is superior to mine, explain my grand plan outside of the idea of town cred

Miles Davis wrote: You are aware of the normally desired benefits that result from successful distancing from a scum teammate, aren't you?

and are you aware how the entire play went out? Are you aware that in a 3pr game that scums will prob fight a little more to keep a GODFATHER alive and not go "lol bus"

Tell me how its better play to bus a GF on day 1 and hope for town cred than jsut vote elsewhere based on how the dicussion went

Fats Navarro wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:

Fats Navarro wrote: What you got against my tune?

Lets see.....

Your voting the CW to start with...

I am about to sleep but I can ISO tomorrow after work.

Well how about you play your guitar to someone else. I was the second player to vote, I explained my reason, explored it thoroughly and stuck with it.

Lookin back at the votes I analyzed yesterday, Potter is probably the civvist person here right now, followed by Fleck, Mingus, then Holiday.

You asked for what someone has against you. I answered it for you.Now you come back with "im the first voter" crap? Bullshit, it doesn't matter if your the first voter or the last the key point is that you were on it. How come you dislike me calling you out when you litarly asked about that? And let use your logic for a second, you aregued your first voter so you should be not suspected for it. By the logic you presented about your defense shouldn't i be the most town since i was first voter and that he voted me out of pure survival tactics?

Miles Davis wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:

Miles Davis wrote:That's some seriously harmonious results right there! Great job, Buble voters.

My first thought was that Fleck would be crazy enough to do some mega-distancing with the early vote for Buble... but that don't really seem like a popular idea, Coltrane's runnin' hot on the notion that no one would bus the Godfather... but if I had to pick one that is, it would be Fleck. Just one man's opinion.

And why is it only me and nobody else?

Because you voted first. Back when it wasn't apparent that he was goin' down. That's how I would expect a distancing bus vote to happen.

Why the hell would I distance him? It would of been so much easier to just move my vote after he posted.

Miles Davis wrote:That's some seriously harmonious results right there! Great job, Buble voters.

My first thought was that Fleck would be crazy enough to do some mega-distancing with the early vote for Buble... but that don't really seem like a popular idea, Coltrane's runnin' hot on the notion that no one would bus the Godfather... but if I had to pick one that is, it would be Fleck. Just one man's opinion.

And why is it only me and nobody else?

Fats Navarro wrote: What you got against my tune?

Lets see.....

Your voting the CW to start with...

I am about to sleep but I can ISO tomorrow after work.

Chris Potter wrote:Haven't you heard of a man called Pharoah Sanders, boy?

No?

Also I was the first vote that started on the lynch. After he made his post i could of easily moved my vote off but I did not. If people are aruging that me and Billy are sucm you have to argue that we decided to go "lol bussing" on what is porbally the only scum power role.

It wouldnt matter if we bussed or not, scums could still be POED out by cop clears and NKs not hitting cop checks.

Anyways sleep time

Miles Davis wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:Well, we already see 2 people in the game. Fun.

Two people? I saw ika, but I didn't see the other one. Assuming you're talking about folks who let it slip who they really are, that is.

Bill Dixon wrote:Ahh, what'sa matter Miles? Vinny? A little to free for y'all?

Hey, you wanna keep playin' it off like it ain't no thang, all the power to ya. As far as I'm concerned, you didn't even hear what I had to say.

To respond to this that I have forgotten. I saw one other player looking at the game under main and I know one person who is playing cus I invited them to play with.

Why the hell is someone voting for no lynch....

Billie Holiday wrote:Random voting Bela Fleck for alt slipping.

omg...............

you would do that too....

Michael Buble wrote:

ika wrote:

Michael Buble wrote:

Bela Fleck wrote:Well now I do have a reason.

Do enlighten me, sir.

Sure, I started with no reason and nothing more than simple random voting. However your response to it does not satisfy me. So now I'm looking to see what I can find form you.

Well that is unfortunate, Fleck.

I am currently random voting you for reasons I intend to come up with later regardless of your response to me.

So..... its OMGUS

classic i mean you could of at least said that instead of saying you dont have a reason

Sigh...

This is why I don't use alts/sockpuppet...

Im really frustrated at this now... I'm done for the night

Well now I do have a reason.

Well, we already see 2 people in the game. Fun.

Hello everyone.

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