The Syndicate

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Ha, First game I never hydra slipped. Even though you all knew who I was.

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Bela Fleck wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:Hiromi was on cw to scum and who's posting nothing of substance. Cute has nothing to do with it.
Hi bby how are you?

Hi there

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Ornette Coleman wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Ornette Coleman wrote:Hiromi is kind of cute though, and not at all a mafia-like person.
cute doesnt equate to town. do you have a real reaosn or not?
What exactly would qualify as a "real reason"?

Mafia is a complicated game to model, so most analyses of optimal play have assumed both (a) that there are only townsfolk and mafiosos and (b) that the townsfolk never have a probability of identifying the Mafia that is better than chance.

A reason to townread Hiromi.

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Miles Davis wrote:You guys have no problem with the idea that the last scum cast the deciding vote to kill the Godfather on Day One?

You just voted to lynch Tito Puente based solely on his vote on the Fleck counterwagon. So you think that both Buble and Tito tried to save Buble by voting Fleck, and that their last teammate Mingus screwed those efforts over by casting a late vote on Buble?

I think that the Tito lynch was perfectly valid. Not only was Tito on cw to scum, but was heavily lurking. This is an easy decision to lynch. Not lynching lurker, when there is no obvious choice, is not the play I go by. Lurkers, if town, will not be helping town. If they have bad voting and are also lurking, they die. Period.

Voting a last minute vote on a teammate going down, is the very definition of bussing. Mingus has been trying to lynch town all game and is now moving on to another townie. I see nothing here but scumminess.

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Hiromi was on cw to scum and who's posting nothing of substance. Cute has nothing to do with it.

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Yeah, if I'm scum that was on both scum lynches, I want reasoning for it. Not blind accusations.

Hiromi is the last scum then.

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Don't worry about it Fleck. Mingus is the last scum and can die tomorrow.

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Fleck is town. He voted for both scums, was voted by scum, was pressured all day and came off town, anyone that still pushes this gets lynched.

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Miles Davis wrote: I think we got pretty lucky with Tito turning up bad, by going for an inactive.

Tito was on Buble's cw so yeah, it was him or Hiromi as easy choices.

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Billie Holiday wrote:That's fine but I am not trying to be disrespectful. When I have meta on it, it's hard not to use it. I respect the game, the host, the mods, and the players.

Fleck is town for having scum vote him and paint him with associative tells while at the same time he was arguing with said scum and voting him as well. I've said this and it's all game related to THIS game.

It's a bad bussing manuver and makes no sense considering it's a GF role and possibly the only scum PR with the cop still alive. And yes, there is a cop in a setup with a GF.

This is also something I've said and is game related.

I also like that Fleck is active and engaged in the game and not lurking it out and wasn't on the cw to scum.

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Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:I'd bet the game on Fleck being town. That's how sure I am.
You can say this as many times as you want and it's not going to sway anyone unless you present an argument on why you're so sure he's town.

I did that already. I gave a long post on it.

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Bela Fleck is responding just fine to the accusations. He may be demoralized, but that's understandable. If there is a bulletpoint list of the accusations against him, outside of the bussing, I would be happy to analyze them. I'm not sure what they issue is outside of the fact that his style of play comes off as scummy. This isn't enough for me to lynch him.

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I'd bet the game on Fleck being town. That's how sure I am.

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Charles Mingus wrote:I don't know about Tito but Tito's lurking, big time. I don't go after the lurkers, I go after the content. The content that I find suspicious.

If you don't go after lurkers, and only go after active players, you are gonna let a lot of scum go in games overall.

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Charles Mingus wrote:It's the way of the game.

So say good night to the bad guy!

No, I refuse to mislynch Bela Fleck. This is a townie reacting to pressure. He does not respond to demands and is stubborn town. I will not participate in this mislynch. I will fight against it hard. I've already explained my townread. I'd prefer to lynch someone on the cw to scum who is barely here to participate rather than an active townie.

One thing I hate about mafia is that the active players get burned while the inactives get a pass. It really bothers me. We need to lynch Tito.

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Also, remember in mafia, there is not much to go off of and people have to poke and prod and get reactions. They have to call out any little thing that looks off. If we didn't do that, we wouldn't be able to figure out alignment nearly as easy. You know as well as I do, on ms, it would get downright ugly sometimes. I usually pissed off the inactives. If I ever got wagoned, which was often, my emotions would flare but it was easier to read me. It's the way of the game.

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Bela Fleck wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:im done here jsut lycnhe me and be donw with it so i can laugh at all of you later

im sick of this constant bellteltment where im always on defense
I'd suggest taking a break from the game.
im already leaving in a bit im sick of this and done with it. anywhere i go i get the same damn treatment: bend over and play how we play, we dont like how your playing or defning yourself, we dont liek any of it

you would think that after 4 years you get used to it but you dont

You always have me. And understand people are suspicious of crazy shit all the time in mafia. It's how the game is. I'll just keep hugging you then.

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Bela Fleck wrote:im done here jsut lycnhe me and be donw with it so i can laugh at all of you later

im sick of this constant bellteltment where im always on defense

I'd suggest taking a break from the game.

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That's fine but I am not trying to be disrespectful. When I have meta on it, it's hard not to use it. I respect the game, the host, the mods, and the players.

Fleck is town for having scum vote him and paint him with associative tells while at the same time he was arguing with said scum and voting him as well. I've said this and it's all game related to THIS game.

It's a bad bussing manuver and makes no sense considering it's a GF role and possibly the only scum PR with the cop still alive. And yes, there is a cop in a setup with a GF.

This is also something I've said and is game related.

I also like that Fleck is active and engaged in the game and not lurking it out and wasn't on the cw to scum.

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Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:I'm tired of ika being scumread and voted for when he is town.
Perhaps it would happen less if you put in an effort to argue why you're so sure that he's town besides knowing him.

Perhaps it wouldn't happen hardly at all if his town meta wasn't, in your own words, to be scummy.

I did explain it in an earlier post but I can do it again.

-If he has an agenda, he's scum.

-If he's running around like a chicken with his head cut off-aka, scummy, he's town.

I can't help he plays town scummy. It's one of his endearing qualities.

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Hiromi looks to be scum on Fleck's wagon.

I'd switch but Tito hasn't been here at all and was on the cw to scum and I don't want Fleck lynched so I'm not moving.

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I'm tired of ika being scumread and voted for when he is town. It gets really old. I mean, there is a cw and people who have barely posted who are on it who should be lynched. Instead you guys are voting someone who was obviously painted with associated tells by scum and it is sad to me. He is town, I'd bet the game on it.

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I will say if you guys mislynch Fleck, I'm gonna be hunting off his wagon for scum hard next day.

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Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:Bela Fleck is confirmed civ.

Move on people.
That's it, you're next.

Sorry!! I'm getting these two sock accts confused. This is the post I was talking about.

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Hiromi Uehara wrote:I apologize for my behavior

I dont know who was behind the scoks so i was just teasing

It wont happen anymore

It's not your fault. Normally, this would be no big deal if we didn't have our history, I'd play along. My bad for not going to the mod on duty. I'm not used to that. At MS, everyone just vomits shit into the thread. I know you didn't know it was us. I also apologize to the game for my behavior. It won't happen again.

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Miles Davis wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Miles Davis wrote: Cool, thank you for making it so easy for us. For the record, when I'm town, I act just like I have been acting this game, and when I'm bad I usually post in yellow.

You're welcome.
you know zeb, lining up lynches is an easy way for scums to have a feild day right?
Unless they're lined up on scums.

OK, considering that you said I'm next earlier, I'm assuming I'm the other you are lining up lynches on. So, I'd appreciate some reasoning for scumreading me even though you are denying it now.

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Bela Fleck wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:
NO YOU WOULDN'T. STOP THIS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ANTAGONIZE US OR NOT BUT THIS IS FUCKING SERIOUS. SHUT IT WITH THIS SHIT.
Deep breath silver, jsut PM MP about it.

Some background for those of you thinking I"m over reacting. ika has been the victim of a stalker over on ms, he also got some inappropriate comments made to him on another site. We are very sensitive to this for that reason. I'm sorry to bring the drama here but I need it to stop or it will hugely stress me out. Even if it is totally a joke. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

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Hiromi Uehara wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:
Hiromi Uehara wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:I'm lining up two towns for lynch? Which two?
Your lining up me and then your going to lynch sivler next you have said, my top town read
1. What's the difference between "lining someone up for lynch" and suspecting that someone is bad?

2. I never said I want to lynch Billie Holiday. My other two suspects are Bill Dixon and Ornette Coleman.
I dont understand why billie would be in danger if bela is lynched

I think bela is scummy in a semi-erotic kind of way
What does semi-erotic kind of way mean?
I would let him take me out to dinner and dance for me

but only if he likes sushi

NO YOU WOULDN'T. STOP THIS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ANTAGONIZE US OR NOT BUT THIS IS FUCKING SERIOUS. SHUT IT WITH THIS SHIT.

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Hiromi Uehara wrote:I have a personal preference for people with lost of typos in the right places

I've had enough of this. ika is mine. STFU

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Hiromi Uehara wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Miles Davis wrote:I'm lining up two towns for lynch? Which two?
Your lining up me and then your going to lynch sivler next you have said, my top town read
1. What's the difference between "lining someone up for lynch" and suspecting that someone is bad?

2. I never said I want to lynch Billie Holiday. My other two suspects are Bill Dixon and Ornette Coleman.
I dont understand why billie would be in danger if bela is lynched

I think bela is scummy in a semi-erotic kind of way

What does semi-erotic kind of way mean?

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Vince Guaraldi wrote:I'm feeling you cata on Hiromi but I'm not quite all there with you just yet. More reading, more reading man. I'm still feeling buggy about Tito, so I'll tickle the ivory his way for now.

Tito is an ok lynch for me today as well. I'd have no problem switching my vote over before day ends if needed.

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Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:Fleck is town, we can argue it all day, or you guys can accept it and move on. It's your choice. If you mislynch him, I will be very demotivated this game.
See that's the problem though, we're not arguing about it. You're just saying nah and acting like that's good enough. Coltrane, Miles, and myself (if there's any big three in jazz then it's us) have actually given valid reasons for suspecting Fleck. You've given nothing except "he's confirmed civ just take my word for it or I'll call your posts garbage" and that's not a good look for you.

You know what else isn't a good look for you? Acting like the only reason me or anyone else is suspecting Fleck is because he potentially bussed Buble when that isn't the case for anyone that suspects him, and then on top of that you act like I only suspect you by association. You know this isn't true yet you pretend it is to make it easier on yourself. Don't think I'll let it slide.

I don't care if you let it slide. I'm town and so is Fleck. You wanna know how to read ika? It's simple. Does he have an agenda? He's scum. Does he run around like a chicken with his head cut off, he's town. Also, scum paint associatives with town all the time, which is what I think happened here.

I didn't say your posts were garbage. I said to line up my lynch because I'm defending Fleck is garbage. There is a difference.

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Fleck is town, we can argue it all day, or you guys can accept it and move on. It's your choice. If you mislynch him, I will be very demotivated this game.

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Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:Bela Fleck is confirmed civ.

Move on people.
That's it, you're next.

Please keep lining up lynches. It's a really good look for you. Your entire case on Fleck is some insane bussing theory and now because I defend him, you are lining me up next.

Get out of here with that garbage.

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Miles Davis wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:Bela Fleck is confirmed civ.

Move on people.
How do you know he is confirmed civ? Is it because you love him?

Because I know things.

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Bela Fleck is confirmed civ.

Move on people.

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Bela Fleck wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:Why is Fleck civ and Hiromi isn't?
Because HIromi is voting on the civ counterwagon to scum. Fleck is acting very town based on meta-I know who this is since he alt slipped.
Votes aren't everything, you said yourself right after this post that we need to look at overall play. I think Fleck looks significantly worse than Hiromi, and that's coming from what I've observed from their overall play, not just their votes.
OK, But I know ika and this look like town ika. I'd be willing to bet the game on it.
Hi bby, i love you!

Hi there!!

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ika plays scummy as town

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Charles Mingus wrote:
Billie Holiday wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:Why is Fleck civ and Hiromi isn't?
Because HIromi is voting on the civ counterwagon to scum. Fleck is acting very town based on meta-I know who this is since he alt slipped.
Votes aren't everything, you said yourself right after this post that we need to look at overall play. I think Fleck looks significantly worse than Hiromi, and that's coming from what I've observed from their overall play, not just their votes.

OK, But I know ika and this look like town ika. I'd be willing to bet the game on it.

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John Coltrane wrote:I just saw that Fleck was voted for by Buble, and Fleck was the first person to vote for Buble's. This looks bad for Fleck.

Scum also like to paint associative tells with town so this does not mean distancing. We have to look at Fleck's overall play as well and it leans town to me.

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Charles Mingus wrote:Why is Fleck civ and Hiromi isn't?

Because HIromi is voting on the civ counterwagon to scum. Fleck is acting very town based on meta-I know who this is since he alt slipped.

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Glad to see Mingus and Fleck are civ.

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Hiromi is my vote for now.

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Billie Holiday wrote:Meaning I'm gonna vote Hiromi or Tito after ISO.

Ugh-neither of these ISOs show anything at all. Just fluff and very little to go off of.

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Meaning I'm gonna vote Hiromi or Tito after ISO.

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Billie Holiday wrote:

Let'S take a look at Navarro, HIromi, and Tito for a possible partner to Michael Buble. Bela Fleck is civ. I'm gonna go with those on Buble now as civs. Could look at Guaraldi and Davis as well.

I'm going by this for now and gonna ISO the cw voters now and pick one of the two for a vote today. Mingus Fleck looks kind of TvT to me.

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Miles Davis wrote:Top suspects for today.

Bela Fleck - Distancing vote cast for Buble, and one received in return from Buble. After Wilgy is nightkilled, he attempts to pin the kill on... Wilgy. That lazy play, not real attempts to solve the game.

Ornette Coleman - Defended Buble, really under the radar player, and calls Coltrane a confirmed Civ, which I really don't like seeing at all.

Bill Dixon - says he'd vote for Buble earlier, but when it comes down to it and Buble has three votes, he decides Buble's responses are "sincere", and that he's going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

First two are not gonna happen. Third I would be willing to vote for.

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Miles Davis wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:Wigly was going after navro last before he died. im jsut going with some occam razor on this
Wilgy was Navarro, man! This doesn't make me feel better about you at all.

It's just a mistype. Really? What's scummy about that?

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Ornette Coleman wrote:John Coltrane is a confirmed civ.

Ok I'll move my vote, thank you.

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Oh wait sorry. Coletrain was on Navarro. Still a good lynch for today although I would like to take a look at those on the CW and ISO Buble as well before day ends.

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