The Syndicate

13 vs 4 is fine enough as a ratio. For a long while in Bulba we considered 12 vs 4 balanced enough. It was the extra kill power that is a problem; 1-shot mafia vigs, town vigs that don’t shoot correctly… any and all extra scum kill power was removed, with all the vigs becoming strongmen instead. Did...

Well, the mafia JOAT was THE single most unbalanced mafia role, no wonder it got cut.
thankfully there was enough time for said cuts to be made.

So the MVP wolf was helping us feel better for our games as well as trying to dumb our meta down so that we look better in the Champs... lol, thanks? :D Actually, the Matrix12 setup used in the Championship was changed, scum was pretty much nerfed because the one we played is considered very pro-scu...

Thanks, Zexy! Looking forward to playing with you on Bulbagarden and cheering you on in Game 4! I killed Zexy partially because I wasn't sure whether the setup was 3 or F just yet, and I strongly suspected you two were Town Masons if we were in Setup 3. You are welcome! It's really awesome I'm in t...

Congrats, wolves! MP MVP :P haven't seen a more active wolf ever ika... never really got to read that one. sig looked slightly bad by the time I died, I doubt I would push them anytime soon after my death. IAWY was pushed when I was trying to skim through the thread with kinda unsatisfying results :...

Dyslexicon wrote:Now is the time to CFD Soneji!

VOTE SONEJI

Why?

btw who is Matt and who did he replace?
oh, hi Matt

It should be noted that zexy has not really been engaging in the game since after the first half of day 1. I'm still waiting on those ISO reads he promised around 72 hours ago. You probs missed the RL part in the meantime :( I've been suspecting zexy since day 1. He never even answered me how my po...

Conspiracy theory over analyzing activated: Ignore the parts about Silverwolf and Long Con/Epignosis, I guess. More later... So Zexy says this after his catch up, implying that he wasn't aware of who had died yet. This would implicate that he is town. However in the catch up I find examples that he...

Dyslexicon wrote:The thought process where you put the stuff about Epig in past tense, while you put stuff about the players alive in present tense.

Not in the original post IIRC. I made a complementary one later saying that you should disregard Epig/Silverwolf.
Why would scum me even bother?

Here to stick till EOD. Before you call me scummy for tha- VOTE ZEXY Was this enough to flip your read this easily? Reads! I need to know them! Still not feeling good about IAWY, Wilgy, MetalMarsh. a2thezebra, Dyslexicon slight scum leans. Golden, MP town. Marco townish. Sloonei/Psi unsure. VOTE ZE...

Zexy, I say if Psi doesn't show up halfway through this period or later that you go ahead and provide the answers to my questions for him on page 22. I'd prefer for him to answer, but he hasn't posted in quite some time. You sure it is 22? Went back and read it, nothing. Zexy seems pretty sane thou...

Here to stick till EOD. Before you call me scummy for that, you should know I actually tend to show up before EOD a lot as town in MU games and the like. Will read through for questions aimed at me, first. Meanwhile I can reply to questions you throw at me real time. I'll wrap up with reads on the w...

I think Psi is so overwhelmed he doesn’t even care. Scum!him does this more easily than town!him, but town!him does it enough as well and numbers alone say it’s more likely for him to be town, so 50-50 at best… Still not answering to the rest of your questions, MP, at least for a while longer… just ...

Ignore the parts about Silverwolf and Long Con/Epignosis, I guess.

More later...

Okay so I have to read through pages 21-43. I’ll kinda skim for now and even in that case I don’t think I’ll make it in time, definitely wasn’t expecting THAT many pages to show up after my latest post in page 30… I’m mostly using CTRL+F on “Zexy” and “Vote” so I can see points aimed at me and reply...

Alright, so, I exist, had a really busy day and just have to go to bed sometime soon. Unfortunately, there is absolutely no way I'm going to catch up to 10 pages of posts in time :( I see that there has been a huge shift to MetalMarsh close to EOD. I don't really disagree with it, and I don't think ...

Question for Frog; What is VCA?

… idk what else I have to say for now. Tbh I have to go again and I got a bit discouraged to keep going right now upon seeing Dyslexicon’s hugeposts. But I’ll be back.

Zexy - yes I fucked up in our 9er shooter game. TBO Panther is fucking legit. We stokr each other like cats on Cleopatra's alters. I thought I had a the sub read that failed disinctly (obv can't relaease it publically, but shoot me a PM for the fake meta town read I thought was legit). Not more tha...

I am ISTJ. Many people mentioned their types and I feel like it is my DUTY to do so as well. I also feel like it is my DUTY to read through all the posts and reply to stuff. See the pattern? Rainbow time - decided to treat it like gth and have no null reads. Medium Town Marco Sloonei Zexy Mild Town...

Before starting reading through 18, I feel like I should address this: I’m not sure that Psit is scum. I mean, he very well could be, since sum him is indeed more inactive than town, at the same time he may just don’t care about this game (he does that a lot too!), which is NAI. Upon reading 18, I a...

Tip to those going to the championship: Wolf teams are diverse, I almost gurantee at least one wolf always slanks off to be under the radar. It's town's job to avoid D1 TvT (Town vs. Town) arguments, and stay on track of cornering the slanking wolf. Typically the slanking wolf is usually a valuable...

Zexy-I don't give a rip if I look towny here or not, how I look doesn't matter to me-I'm going after my scumreads, I suggest you do the same and if you think I'm scum, then go ahead and vote me instead of constantly discrediting everything I say. Scum can easily say something like this to avoid rep...

Zexy-I don't give a rip if I look towny here or not, how I look doesn't matter to me-I'm going after my scumreads, I suggest you do the same and if you think I'm scum, then go ahead and vote me instead of constantly discrediting everything I say. Scum can easily say something like this to avoid rep...

Silverwolf reactions don't really help her look townier

Incorrect. I've suspected only you and silverwolf. That's a big difference. If you iso me, you'll see I've provided at least some commentary on an awful lot of players. I don't need to provide commentary on a player I don't see anything to talk about. There are very few players I haven't mentioned....

MP just trying too hard to be scum imho. Ika is the kind of person I find almost unreadable :( Early on, I was afraid Dizzy would be that guy, but hopefully, nope :) Frog’s plan’s fine. I’m already on Psittaciform so guess I’m fine for it as things are. What is NAI? I don’t like Silver’s accusation ...

Zexy , I have the following questions and comments regarding this reads list of yours: 1) What good points has Golden brought up? 2) How does the method by which Marco post make his activity faked? What do you think of the content of his "one-liners"? I find the fact that you are consider...

that being said, what i find odd about sig is that hes diffrent then what i played with him before. Really interested on what is different, IKA. Looks like DrWilgy is a person that only replies to whatever is thrown at them. Inactive, not reading through the thread… is this his regular meta? Zexy, ...

Zexy , What do you think about the notion that Frog expected you to clear him based on meta? I don't think it's unnatural for town!Frog to say that. Yet at the same time I don't know Frog's meta that well, I haven’t ever seen a scum game of his, which means I can't clear him based on meta for eithe...

Time to put someone to 2 votes, I don't like Golden/Sloonei wagons

VOTE PSITTACIFORM
hey man gimme reactions pls

Golden 53 – Just paranoid about him. He’s definitely trying, bringing up good points and all. But I have no clue how good and active he is when mafia. Marco 43 – Too many one-liners, kinda “fake” activity if you ask me. Not feeling too good about him yet. Sloonei 41 – Town, I guess, lots of analysis...

I feel like Silverwolf's posts have a very "drifter" quality to them. Just moving along, picking random posts and responding to them. There seems to be no desire to interact beyond the occasional observation or to engage anyone. The participation seems superficial. What do others think? V...

Back. Time to read through all that...

Not sure I can see what LC's slip is.

No clue what IIoA is and why it's not a good alignment tell anymore (or why it was before)

Oh but you didn't defend sig zexy. That's my point. You only criticised sloonei. I didn't mean 'reading sig off', I meant 'reading sig from so little information'. I've seen people who can regularly make successful day 0 scum reads on less. Well I though sloonei was the one who was too quick on rea...

Dyslexicon’s reads are mostly good, not sure how much I can relate to his Sloonei read, though. Getting better and better, town lean here. Golden, I think your scumread on me is just playstyle clash. I stand by my point that early content isn’t enough for any reads, which is something I believe anyw...

Well, Golden, looks like it wasn’t LC’s opening that was strange. His entire playstyle just feels a bit quirky to me, but if that’s his meta it’s null. ~1500 posts d1 is too much, I think. Last year’s finals didn’t hit 2000 posts total, and although it had 13 players instead of 17, 1500 posts in Day...

I lean town on Psittaciform’s first post. Because meta. Only a lean, though. What Frog’s done in the beginning is scummy (strategy talk + RVS hypocrisy), but votes piled up a bit too easily which made me paranoid, mostly about Marco. And Frog’s accusations of Marco are really good and he brings up t...

Ok and for now I'll stop following the thread for a while. Later!

Frog, asking people to say they’re town and doing so yourself is Troll, right? Then are you a Tryhard for reals?

Well, Dizzy, all previous posts weren’t really about analysis on things… this would be your second and it involves only me, again. Hope I don’t end up being your tunnel target…

Btw I’m not checking messages that were written between the time I started typing and the time I hit the post button. In MU there’s no feature to check those posts so I’d like to imitate that. Well Psi, Sloonei already has me beat in the analyzing thing. Well, Dizzy, I said you look too comfortable ...

Idk about Frog those posts are typical mechanics posts that both alignments like to make. That part about disliking RVS only for him to ask people to tell him that they are town and doing so himself… hypocritical at least. Yet not enough to warrant even more votes on Frog of all people who’s got his...

Frog's post just above my latest one has a really weird layout for me is it a screenshot or?

kk Dizzy is really PerC style quirky. I lean town because he feels too comfortable doing this.

Sloonei wrote:Sig, what is the nature of your ping on me? How strong is it and why is it there?

I like this post. You really don't let a single sentence slip, don't you?

Meta on Metalmarsh please? Looks like RVS guy like Long Con etc.

Thanks for that line about Sloonei, sig. Didn’t see it when I typed my previous post.

But seriously people there’s no point in asking players themselves about metas/activity levels. It’s the others who know them that need to tell you.

So, sig: what is TS? What do you think of Sloonei’s push on you? You defended, but what does that mean in regards to his alignment? I disagree on the fake claiming part because in MU there actually a power role cover system where everybody claims all the roles so that the real ones get to “naturally...

I am reading a player based on the content he's provided. I have a reason and I explained my reason when it was questioned. That is not defensiveness, that is standard Mafia procedure. I know it's not strong but this is Day 1 and we need to start somewhere. That's good enough of an answer for now, ...

Sloonei wrote:So I shouldn't be attempting to read anyone? Got it.

You shouldn't read someone on that little info and be very defensive of it.

Dyslexicon wrote:I agree.

VOTE FROG

Besides, he buddied me in the sign up thread.

I don't really like this...

that's pre-rand lol

You are right. A lot more is going to happen. But that more has not happened yet, so for now I have to work with what I have. What do you think of sig and I? Your last post didn't really give a stance either way. If anything, the fact you are trying to read someone on this little could be scum tryi...

What I didn't like about your posts is that they seemed like an easy opportunistic set of early observations when there wasn't a whole lot of content to analyze. It's a good and easy way to establish yourself early on as a town leader. I don't think you are the kind of person who would base a read ...

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