The Syndicate

Can we lynch Nut?

Don't let this end in no lynch plz.

insertnamehere wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:oh hi, what's up

oh look, a three way tie that I get to decide.

well gee wilikers

How current are you with the thread?
jesus christ stop posting and also mislynching me

Are you caught up? GTH reads?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can I just say that I love changeable votes?

And I love you all. Playing these games seriously is one of the best ways to spend my free time.

I love you all too but I'm freaking out. Also I shouldn't have free time right now. Also, how can votes not be changable? Oh, Cindy.

@INH - Any reason you aren't voting yet?

As much as I love CFDs, I'm not going to join this one me thinks.
Nut is the one I have the most meta on that feels the most different to me.

Why on earth is that emoji called llama? I love llamas.

insertnamehere wrote:oh hi, what's up

oh look, a three way tie that I get to decide.

well gee wilikers

Just in time to make a timely self vote.

speedchuck wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:I think I like MP this EoD, dare I say it.
The feeling is mutual.

MP also likes MP this EOD.

Lol, exactly what I was thinking!

*buddies MP hard*

Yeah, also noticing LC disappearing. Still would assert him as town though. #feels ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

FZ. wrote:Civ reads:

Epi
Wilgy
Chuck

Oh, did I forget to mention that LC is not up my trusted list either. Sorry if I'm suspicious of almost everyone who is suspicious of me. But he was "pinged" by my one post, and ever since is letting everyone else do the fighting while he is sitting back and not really saying anything.

Why Wilgy as town?
I don't think I really see clear town for any of these, but am interested to hear your explanation.

I think I like MP this EoD, dare I say it.

speedchuck wrote:Dizzy is my favorite player this game.

Oh my god, I'm literally squeaking. I love all of you! <3 Even though my shit is never quite together.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I refuse to vote for Elo, INH, or Luke, especially when two legitimate suspects (FZ. and nutella) are floating around.

With that said, Elo and INH especially need to get their shit together and get in here and make some reads.

Yus, their shit. It's not together.

FZ. wrote:I gave my reads on MP, Nutella and also INH. I feel like I wasted too much time defending myself which is why I hate when that happens. It's a circle thing where you're poked for not giving names, when all you do all the time is defend yourself. Yet, I feel I still talked about suspicions. I'm sorry you don't like them. That doesn't make me bad. It either makes me wrong, or it makes me smarter than the rest.

Do you have any town reads?

Vote Nutella

@FZ - What is the reason you're not voting anyone at this point?

Elohcin wrote:I think my phone is playing tricks on me. I came in to vote and the poll said I had two votes and INH had 3. I voted INH for some assurance and after I hit submit the votes were all moved around. I'm confused.

Tell us your secrets!

Oh wow, suddenly everyone voted FZ.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't buy this explanation. I think she fabricated that suspicion of me. She doesn't seem to care about solving me; she only keeps coming with reasons to further her suspicion.

Let's lynch her.

If you disagree with me, tell me why.

I guess I could go with this. She's a mixed read for me, but has been at least a bit active.

Vote FZ

Scum the lot of you!

I'm not too inspired by Nut now actually.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I just destroyed that post and this thread by having a spoiler within a spoiler, so I took the liberty of editing it to fix the problem. Just so you all know.

Hacks!

speedchuck wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Still kind of want to lynch Luke. But people doesn't seem that interested, which wants me to lynch Luke more. But I'll switch to Eloh for now. She was barely active in the Phenon game and I don't want a repeat of that, at least INH was very much present that game. Maybe that's terrible reasoning, but my lone vote isn't doing much right now.

Vote Eloh
I myself am mostly between Eloh and INH.

Is this a majority vote game, or are there softlynch/hardlynch requirements?

Pretty sure it's majority lynch. Take it from the player with ADD.

Still kind of want to lynch Luke. But people doesn't seem that interested, which wants me to lynch Luke more. But I'll switch to Eloh for now. She was barely active in the Phenon game and I don't want a repeat of that, at least INH was very much present that game. Maybe that's terrible reasoning, but my lone vote isn't doing much right now.

Vote Eloh

@FZ - Will you be able to provide some thoughts and reads on whoever you have that on in the game? I feel I don't quite know where your suspicions lie or if you have town reads and what not?

speedchuck wrote:I don't think I've ever caused this much read distress on D1 before. Either I got mislynched, or was soon not a consideration.

My apparent slimy earnestness pleases me.

Agh.

MovingPictures07 wrote:What do you mean two vote considerations? I think maybe you misunderstood something that I said; I'll consider anyone that's in my greys, which was more than two when I left. I think I did call him and FZ. out specifically though, so maybe that's what you're referring to?

I'm having a hard time reading speedchuck. I declared he was town earlier based on his effort, but there's something about his posts and tone that are nagging at me just a bit, which is why I've been poking at him perhaps a bit more than most others. I need to dive into his post history and re-assess to get a better handle on how I feel about him. Hope that makes sense.

Yeah, I was refering to you calling them two out specifically. I seem to remember you saying your vote would likely end up on one of them, but maybe I just made that up myself.

Actually, that town read felt a bit easy to me, as does the one you have on Luke imo. Maybe I'm biased or have a weird position in the site meta, but I've seen some very strong scum play from some players in the two games I've played here, so I'm not at least feeling inclined to follow consensus reads as much, or at least I feel I should be wary of that. I'd say LC would be my only real town feel, and him I haven't seen for a while. I don't know what I'm answering right now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I understand your response regarding my mannerisms. I would emphasize that they're non-alignment-indicative, but obviously you can do with that information however you wish. When I'm actually invested in games, I've grown accustomed to getting the eyeball. I'm not always good at dealing with it but feel free to suspect or prod me however you like, and I'll try to do my best to alleviate any concerns.

This cordial response is exactly the kind of thing that does not alleviate any concerns lol. But that doesn't mean I don't appreciate it. Mafia is a terrible game. o.o

speedchuck wrote:I hate to answer Wilgy's question for him, but since he may not be back:

That post was in response to a bus vs save situation. The post talks about a world that assumes nut is bad. Wilgy was analyzing that world, but that doesn't mean anything regarding his read on nut. I don't know how he reads nut.

I would like to know that, though.

I think I got the context, but didn't his vote on Epi follow that train of thought where Nut was scum? Anyway, probably best Wilgy clears this up.

Oh wow, everyone logs on. I'm not really here cause I'm working with my exam. Real hard.

speedchuck wrote: This has been the most awkward post.

I'm glad you said it. Or am I?

DrWilgy wrote:Expanding on this, at the time of this posts it was 3 vs 4 with Hazelnut in the lead.

The order of votes was that the 3 on FZ came before the 4 on Hazelnut. I don't think it's likely there was a bussing on Hazelnut meaning a busser would have to tie thier teammate up if they are into that, then put them in the lead.

The exception would be Epignosis. Epignosis wouldn't have known in a 3v1 scenario that Hazelnut could take the lead, thus making him a possible busser.

This is all on the assumption Hazelnut is bad.

Going back to work. Lynch Epi everyone.

If this reasoning hinges on Nut being scum, why not vote Nut instead who actually already have a vote on her? As I see it Epi is pretty unlikely to get lynched as it stands, or do you disagree with this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Please expand on the tinfoil concern you previously had about Marmot.

Don't know what I can share, but Marmots post on the timing issue he had with FZ's response to me seemed to assume mafia day chat if I had read it correctly, and I didn't know if mafia had day chat even if I tried investigating this, and Marmot wouldn't either if he is town. But if it's custom then I assume Marmot just assumed this, and besides that, town can also make assumptions like that even without there being a reason for it (I've learned the hard way). Tell me if this doesn't make sense and is still important to you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MP, please tell me more about your town read on speedchuck.
Wait, does MP town read Speed or not? o.o
It was asserted here, though the feeling seems to have waned since.

Well yeah, I read it like his recent posts was contradicting this, which I asked him about. But ok.

I actually don't know quite where to place Nut.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MP, please tell me more about your town read on speedchuck.

Wait, does MP town read Speed or not? o.o

speedchuck wrote:MAYBE LYNCH:
Luke11646
insertnamehere
DrWilgy
Elohcin
FZ

Dyslexicon wrote:Could lynch:
Luke
FZ
Eloh
INH
Wilgy

Or something like that.

Lol, does this mean I'm smart as a whip too?

I guess I'd say

Don't lynch:
LC
Nut
JJJ
Marmot

And if in a good mood:
MP
Epi
Speed

Could lynch:
Luke
FZ
Eloh
INH
Wilgy

Or something like that.

Marmot wrote:I don't think I can keep up, but I can try.

Yay! Directly to the don't lynch-list with you.

@Speed - I didn't mean to say you seemed smug at all, sorry if that came out wrong. It was really more of a compliment of I don't know quite where I have you alignment wise (and it was the same last game), which is really a good thing in mafia.

Would also really really like some Eloh and INH action right now.

@JJJ - The Marmot read was kind of a tinfoil thought that has been disproved. Marmot is a null read, maybe slight town if I was to go crazy. The Speed feeling different to me is nothing more than just that. He feels not as careful and more playfool/bouncy (?). Coupled with him enjoying to play anti-town it does give me a hmmmm.

Overall I wish I had better meta on people. Getting there in 2018. You will never be rid of me and my cats.

Marmot wrote:It is normal for them to have a chat at all times. It's even normal for dead scum to stay in the chat throughout the game.

Oh wow, I've never seen that practice before. Good to know actually.

I don't get it either tbh. But, the timing of your vote and her response jumped out to me.

Here's your first mention of her in the game, followed immediately by a vote two minutes later.

And FZ, who hadn't posted in ~18 hours, just happened to be online and catch that vote in linki.

But I read her later reactions, and decide that the thing that jumped out at me doesn't make sense for you two to be teammates. If FZ was your teammate, I doubt she'd write your vote off like this.

K, well it was this interaction/timing observation that was of concern for me, but it's moot to me now anyway.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Marmot wrote:I see ValidVompyVay is having an identity crisis. Someone help that poor man.
I'm thinking of wearing a Marmot mask next.

Do me! I somehow feel like I'm obstucting the game when I'm the only one gifing. o.o

@MP - Also, regarding your self meta thing. This is all good and well and I follow you on all points. It basically boils down to do I believe you or do I not? I don't want to use my experience or perception of you against you in an unfair way, I just have the thoughts and feels that I do. And I'm not really scum reading you, actually thinking it's (well percentage wise (?)) likely that you are town. In any case, keep on keeping on. One question though - How did Speed go from being a town read to one of your two vote considerations of the day? I didn't follow the progression when I looked over your posts. Can you talk about that?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Didn't you ask this in another game we played together?

I did, didn't I? o.o
I really don't want to use your politeness and well spokenness (is that even a word?) against you, but it somehow freaks me out a bit. And you crushed my heart the first time I played here and how can I ever recover from that? But really, I think I'll have to eventually start to read you like I read JJJ last game, just decide upon something.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Dizzy, first off, I am reading Epi as town still, but he is an incredibly capable mafia (and well aware of that fact and proud of it, as you can see).

He's hunting with fervor and better than anyone else right now. I always have my concerns, but I haven't seen anything alarming from him, and I'll be poking him throughout the game to be sure. I think others should as well.

Secondly, thanks for your reads.

I would contend that Luke is playing fast and loose for a newbie; that makes him look good in my eyes because I think a mafia newbie would either be intimidated into overexplaining or lurking, not making himself so overly underexplained or 'convenient' (to steal nutella's word for his vote). Tentatively, of course, and despite him not engaging more. Curious how you reached slight scum there.

Thanks for the infos on Epi. I don't experience Luke fast an loose, actually he disappeared when I asked him about his read on me. Could be coincident, could be not. The exact read could be many things, I don't know if I really have many exact reads yet overall.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:Vote Luke

Could go Marmot
How does Luke's contradictory/double placement of LC make him bad?

I mostly want to here him talk about it first.

speedchuck wrote:So, I don't feel like third party speedchuck? Good, cool.

@everyone Do I need to change my avatar or something? I'm not cool with coming off as constantly smug.

I most enjoy anti-town alignments.

Lol, I don't really mean smug. Just smart as a whatever noun was used in Phenon. That feeling. But your vibe is different, and yes I'm aware that it doesn't say much since you were 3p last game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Epignosis wrote:It is customary for the mafia to talk whenever they want. Why do you ask?

Cause of something Marmot said. But if day talk is custom it doesn't matter.

I don't know what supportinve is.

If you ad an i, it's an anagram for punitive sport.

Thanks for the gameses, I might even read/listen to them

Except the town game seems to be gone?

Also fucking love that you had a vocaroo game here! I've been considering to run one at PerC.

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