The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:01 pm SVS is scum.
Change my mind.

Gasoline for the fire in the back of my head

I will read Raishes ISO, but I will not be posting walls about it. No shade lol.

Speaking of, I will do that ISO of SVS some time, with an open mind.
But I recall one thing that bothered me in the first place. It was how when she asked Radish about the "baddie" word, and Sig ran away with it, she said that she didn't think it was a slip at all. And it was really strange to me then why she bothered to ask. I guess she was just "making conversation", but that also seems kind of weird to me. Also, iirc, she kind of disappeared a bit, or at least let Sig take over after she brought it up. It just left me feel one type of way.

SVS probably think I'm like full on scum reading her, for all the "shade" I'm throwing. But that's really not the case. There's just something in the back of my mind that irks me.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:41 pm

Fine guess I'll iso him and build a case

Sig, this is not how you build a case. You don't ISO someone in order to built a case. You'll only get conformation bias. =p You ISO someone to see how you feel with an open mind. I mean, you do you, but I'm just saying. Also I don't believe you've been paying attention to my posts. You have not interacted with me much. You clearly don't know the first thing about my game/meta in general. I mean, it's fine that you have a whatever paranoia, that happens. I will unlikely entertain any case on me. I can address what you said was "odd" about my D2 lynch: At the end of the day I was sitting on the couch with my bf, pretending not to play mafia, so I was not all the way there. I didn't know what to do and was full of doubt, and I felt a number of lynches could be good and a couple bad. Neither Mac nor Radish felt like a bad lynch to me. But also I didn't fucking know. I'm a ball of doubt a lot, and this especially intensifies near EoD (especially if it's D1 or as in this case, no info from a mafia lynch). That is just how I am.

Now that I know my reads and takes have been pretty good, I will try to be more confident. Scum should NK me soon. I like that. =)

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:21 am This game has been so hard for me to follow It takes me at least a half hour to catch up on reading everything after I leave and come back. I don't know why me voting for nutella who did not flip town and mac who is not confirmed town must mean I'm bad. I voted for mac because I thought his gameplay matched his other mafia gameplay before. We still don't know that mac isn't bad. I can see why people think I'm not playing well this game and that's a fair assessment because I'm having a hard time keeping up and making reads there is so much going on. So yeah I am trying my best and I always think it's better to be honest and to at least try to put my vote somewhere that I think makes sense than to make up fake reads or not vote at all. People always think I'm scummy because my posts are weird and my gameplay style doesn't make sense to them.

Sabie is 100% teamed with Radish.

This post is so guilty.
She says she doesn't know why her voting Nut who was 3p and Mac who hasn't flip makes her bad, ven though it's 1) obvious 2) been explained and talked a lot about, so it should be really freaking clear. I don't buy for a second that Sabie has no idea why people think she's teamed with Radish. I even thought so before Radish flipped.
She is probably truthful in her suspicion on Mac, but that doesn't make her town.
The rest of the post is excuses and how people always think she's scummy because of her "weird posts and gameplay".
To this I say:

Hello. I'm not all caught up, but there's still some things I want to comment on.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pmI don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.

Why?

When did he vote? After the train was already in the lead? Cause in that case it’s super sketch. I have reasons for my suspicions.

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention]

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
Dennis Reynolds - If you have no votes at the end of a Day, you will deflect the first ability used on you that night to a random player.

Lol, Radish never stood a chance to use this ability. Not the most powerful scum to lynch, but I'll take it for sure.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:32 pmI don't think Turnip can be with Radish, despite the fact they are both root vegetables.

Why?

Jack could be on either scum team tbh
Mac still might be scum

Quick top of my head read list:

Town: G-Man, Tony
Townish: Juliets, Michelle, Epi, Dom, Sig
Probably town, but I'm insane: SVS

Don't know: Speed, Tranq, Sprit, Ted, Mac

Could be on Radish team: Sabie, Turnip, Jack, I guess maybe Dom

Other scummers: Sloonei? Jimmay?

I think that was all. These are just my feelings right now. Good night.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:21 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:17 pmMaybe SVS, lol. Just harvest the seeds and give me something to work with, all this low key "maybe SVS" is giving me agita.

I know, I know, I'm actually sorry lol. I knew you'd be tilted from it. One thing I recall is that you pointed out a link between me and Radish earlier which I thought was super weird. I'll go through your ISO now to see if I get an actual handle. You know what. You defended Nut. Your probably town tbh. I honestly don't know why you make me see red.

[mention]S~V~S [/mention] I lied. I need to sleep. It's 2.30 am here. But I will give you some actual reading and not the gut scowling.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:17 pmMaybe SVS, lol. Just harvest the seeds and give me something to work with, all this low key "maybe SVS" is giving me agita.

I know, I know, I'm actually sorry lol. I knew you'd be tilted from it. One thing I recall is that you pointed out a link between me and Radish earlier which I thought was super weird. I'll go through your ISO now to see if I get an actual handle. You know what. You defended Nut. Your probably town tbh. I honestly don't know why you make me see red.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:06 pm Like literally Nanook died and flipped town. How you gonna shade him for voting Nutella?

Wtf, this is not the point, and you know it. You hiding behind a flipped town because you made the same action as him? Lol Jack. Lol.

Also Sabie voted Mac when his wagon was strong. Sabie+Radish confirmed. I feel good at this game again.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:07 pm....
Not if your on Mac's team.

Sure. I can see how you could imagine that link. But I'm just town. If you knew anything about me, you would know. But it doesn't matter right now.

I think Sabie is on the Radish team. The way she was addressing Radish was sparse and awkward. She didn't respond to Radish when Radish picked her vote on Nut out as the worst vote. But every time I say something anti-Sabie she's there to comment on it.

Turnip also looks bad from this. The way he ended up on Nut D1 even though he supposedly suspected Radish. And also D2 built counter wagons to him. Not a great look. Though I've been reading Turnip more town otherwise. Idk.

You know what sucks about Multiball? Even if town reads are good and they get mostly good lynches, they might still lose. Lol. But it's just a game. And I'm happy about it as a whole now that Radish flipped scum.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:04 pm Dizzy's proposed hot potato on my is not a bad look. There were several established counterwagons already on the board, including Mac who does not look like a compatible Radish partner. If anyone wanted to save Radishes, all they needed to do was vote Mac.

Also, I've been the main let's lynch Radish on D1 and most of D2 until he pulled my heartstrings. If you look at how Radish talks to me, it's clear I'm clear. Just saying.

Tunrip, Sabie and maybe SVS are the ones I'm looking at after Radish flip.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:29 pm I know some people think it's dumb to do connection analysis, but it's pretty much the only thing I got now. I don't get anywhere if I just think about one player at the time, cause I can usually argue both sides then. I don't feel I have enough grasp on most people's meta.

So I'm just putting this out there in case it becomes useful for later.
- Turnip has only critical things to say about Radish. Yet he ends up on the Nut wagon on D1 with the insistence of "We should stay the course" on her. He's also said D2 that he could still vote Radish. But he isn't. Right now he wants to build a Jack-Wagon.
- Turnip has absolutely no interaction with SVS at all, apart from saying "Hi, it's an honor to be playing with you again." He also removed SVS from my maybe-town-list, but I have no idea why, since he has not mentioned SVS at all.
- I already spoke about the possible Radish/sabie-connection. Not sure on this.
- Not sure on SVS as well tbh.

For future reference if Radish or someone flips scum.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:57 pmI'm still a bit iffy on Dizzy, but he initially brought up the idea of a CFD.

Sig, why are you "iffy" about me? Have you even read my posts? Do you even know anything about how I play?

Doesn't even matter. Just annoying.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:57 pmI'm still a bit iffy on Dizzy, but he initially brought up the idea of a CFD.

Sig, why are you "iffy" about me? Have you even read my posts? Do you even know anything about how I play?

Sig doesn’t know me =(
Sig doesn’t want to know me.

Omg! Damn you heart strings - but I’m stoked.

Good job, Radish.

I love this game right now. Will be at computer in 30 min or so to analyze

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:45 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:44 pm I feel Radish will flip town rip

"I wish we had ten lynches!

Oops."

You...mood.

Spoiler: show

Fair tbh

I feel Radish will flip town rip

I don’t like Mac being there to scream at the exact right time.

But also I’ve argued for Radish as scum all game, so can’t be mad

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm I want to vote mac but dont know why

OMG scum everywhere

Lol. Everyone who suspects you are scum suuure.

Oh too late. Well... I have mixed feelings, but at least something will come out of this

I want to vote mac but dont know why

I’m frozen

Sloonei, I used the same argument for Ted as your using for G-man/Radish now

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

In dead 3p we trust

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:22 pm Someone tell me why Master Radishes is a civilian.

Because he was tugging at my heart strings.

Cfd Sloonei, anyone?

[VOTE: Sprit] aubergine

But I want to hear people's take.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:06 pm85

I remember nothing of it. Some hard takes that I don't remember for reasons that is gut or I don't understand. But I have no idea how he plays.

Oh, well Mac assures us. So I guess that is the end of that discussion.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:03 pmI just clicked his ISO to see how I feel. Without looking, y'all guess how many posts he has made?

37

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:01 pmThere are players for whom I might think this read is worth considering. Mac is not one of them.

Ok. That does make some sense. Maybe Mac is just scum. This kind of angry vibe doesn't read like how I've seen (town)Mac in the past actually.

What is Sprit's meta? Is he a good lynch or no? Cause he's under the radar as fuck to me, and his posts makes no sense to me, also don't love the way he votes off wagon.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:56 pm I would be interested in @nutells take on Mac during her lynch, if she is around and has a dead post to spare.

Pretty sure Nut already read Mac as scum. As does Sig.

Am I easily manipulated if I say this?
Mac saying he would be sad if he was lynched. Would scum say that? If you're scum and you're lynched, that is warranted. If you're town though, you have reason to feel sad (above other feelings like annoyed or something).

This probably sounds dumb, but I go after tells that sometimes others thinks are weird. It worked with Nanook.1

How do people feel about Michelle? She's been low impact imo.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:49 pmI'm going back and forth between them and at the same time thinking neither of them.

Jimmay? Sloonei?
Some lurker like Tranq?
Why is it so hard to find a good lynch target with so many scum in thread?
Have I just been buddied by Radish?

Now I like sabie.
Is Mac or Jack a good lynch?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:15 pm I don't know why dizzy has it out for me this game.

Me neither.
Every time I vote someone I start thinking of all the reasons it could be wrong.

[VOTE: Sabie] aubergine