The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:57 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:32 am Gg. Congrats mafia!

At least I had players vote for scum almost every night I could target, so that was pretty cool. *pats self on back*

I think town could’ve won with a bit more conviction and coordination.

In the future, maybe having dead players replace in could work? If they have no info it should be doable. A town without info can replace in to any role or faction. It’s a possibility, at least.

It wouldn't work well because having deadies sub in would unintentionally provide information about their role before their death (if they have no info, that's proof they weren't an info role) or give the player an information advantage. It would probably be fine to let the Day 1 lynch sub back in though. In some cases the Night 1 kill too.

Oh, right. I forgot role reveal doesn’t always happen here.

On my home site this is done occationally, if a game has a lot of inactives on one side like in this game. But our games usually feature more VT roles, and all flips are revealed, barring a janitor ability or something unique. I guess it depends on the game. I definitely see how it would be more problematic in many of the games on Cindy Kate.

Gg. Congrats mafia!

At least I had players vote for scum almost every night I could target, so that was pretty cool. *pats self on back*

I think town could’ve won with a bit more conviction and coordination.

In the future, maybe having dead players replace in could work? If they have no info it should be doable. A town without info can replace in to any role or faction. It’s a possibility, at least.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:31 pm I appreciate you coming in. Likewise Dyslexicon.

Thank you for the game, Epi!

Byeeeee!

I should be sleeping. Good night, all.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:48 pmAgenda? I'm not trying to doubtcast you. Just attempting to put together all of the factors. I don't disagree with your assessment, but it still factors in.

You were like "Maybe they's still in the chat" with a (?) meant to show ignorance.
TH's comment was more "They prolly in the chat."
You called attention to the question, TH didn't. That matters to me. I see his as more of a townslip than yours.

I didn't call attention to it then. That can matter to you now, but not then. It's the same baseline of ignorance.

I mean, is that organic thinking, anyone?

Me: "It's also possible that Luna and Marmot are still helping making kill decisions, something something"
Speed: "No, that's not possible, look at the rules."
Me: "Ok. Pretty sure Turnip mentioned this earlier, let's see, oh yeah, here."
Speed. "Omg. Lock town!"

I don't necessarily think either of me or Turnip should have to be lock town based on this, but that's not the point. The point is that Speed reacts way differently to basically the same thing, so it doesn't seem like a reaction, but a fabrication.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:00 pm Jack, can you please appear?

Sup, fam?

Should I give Speed the evilest eye, or Dharma the evilest eye? I'm not sure where I stand.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:31 pm You can't bury a reference to your old townslip in a list of junk.

I found it.

Also I don't know where your slip is.

Don't blame me for not giving you the locktown colors.

It's not about me or my townslip, it's about your thinking. You pick and choose.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:27 pmDon't recall you showing me the counter example. Might have missed it. I was preparing the house for company during that lynch.

You quoted and answered a post of mine where I pointed out that K-ness had willingly voted Bullz who was going to be a mislynch, and that didn't fit the TMI theory at all, actually mafia would have no incentive to do that. Nobody really commented on this, but you quoted the post, pretty sure.


You where the one pointing out to me the information in the rules that it was not possible that scum could still be in the chat. So you go, that's not possible to me, but when I bring up a post where Turnip does the same, you go lock clear. That doesn't seem like organic food to me.

Also, I already answered your query about replacement. I answered you specifically. Pretty damn sure. You didn't care? Didn't fit your agenda?

Here:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:52 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:29 pm It would actually make a lot of sense if either Dizzy or DH is an indie because they would be a replacement priority above the scum even

I thought the same for DH. So this is probably relevant information. I tried to join the game just when it started, and posted in the sign ups, but just missed it. So I was asked to stand by, because it was likely that a replacement would be needed. I replaced White who hadn't even been logged on for a long time before the game started. So I replaced in because I wanted to join this game.

Wait, Speed is here. Hi, Speed. Say something fast

I will sleep now. Good night.

And why has nobody talked about Wilgy doing nothing but vote to mislynch?

Also, I need to say this - If Dharma is town here I would be really really suspicious of Nova, for raisins.

Jack, what do you think of the possibility of Turnip being scum? Also a Turnip/Speed scum team? Turnip cased Speed early, but never pushed it (and it was a time where Speed was not in danger anyway). Later Speed has town locked Turnip, and I haven't seen Turnip really say anything about your Speed case.

Jack, can you please appear?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:57 pmJack and LC are town, everyone else is fair game. Fwiw I feel better about you now that KNess flipped town

Better than what? When did you suspect me?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:49 pmI don't really know if I think Turnip looks good either. I've never known. Guess I'll never know.

Oh come on Dizzy, you know I look good, especially in proper lighting

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:48 pm A happy Nova makes for a happy turnip. He is like a son to me, you know

What scum worlds do you have in your head now?

Don't get what a hint to a role should even prove, since any role could be scum. Also, claiming is against the rules, so whatevs. Really don't get that from Speed.

I somehow am doubting that DH and Speed are teamed now. Speeds constant "if DH is town, I don't look as suspicious!" is weird as hell if they are teamed. It actually looks more TMI on Speed's side.

But also, I don't think Dharma looks good.

I don't really know if I think Turnip looks good either. I've never known. Guess I'll never know.

Nova is getting perky right at crucnh time, and I'm not in love with that.

Kyle is here.
Wilgy isn't really, and I will yawn if he is scum.
LC, I will talk about if we're both alive tomorrow, or else I don't care and he's probably town.

Nova seems too happy to me. Anyoen getting that?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:41 pmDyslexicon - townreading since she first showed up. Manufactured DH vote from yesterday now looks okay. Replacement status, no lock town.

I'm genuinly curious - if you lock town Turnip for the town slip, what is the reason you don't lock town me as well? Do you think it's more likely I faked a slip for your or anyone's honor than Turnip? Also, what does "replacement status" mean?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:29 pm Come read my case, people who are alive.

I read it. I agree, but still kind of buy Speed's defense. I have other problems with Speed to though. The main accusation against K-ness as I see it was Turnip's argument that K-ness TMI-ed. I wrote to Speed a counter example of this, when K-ness voted the Bullz wagon that he really didn't have to do, but Speed never commented on this.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:46 am Dyslexicon is bad. That's a nova guarantee.

The fuck. That's random. If you have me as scum with DH, you have not been paying attention at all. More words from you, please.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:19 pmPOE? If we aren't in a K-ness world, we're likely in a DH one. If he is also town I will feel vindicated. One step closer to losing, but vindicated nevertheless.

If we mislynch one more time, we're probably screwed.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:03 pm As a group I think we're giving Kylemii too much love. Has anyone at all considered him seriously as a potential goon?

In my head, yes.

/Catching up.

Dharma switched to humble mode.

K. Bye thread.

On the bright side, maybe I'll finally get NK'd.

Also, I really should do my actual real life work.

I'm sorry I didn't fight for you, K-ness. : (

[mention]Dom[/mention], you were here at some point.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:11 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:07 pm Well that sucks.

Immediate reaction in terms of game solving, please?

Jack's obviously not Knees mafia teammate so that blows my theory up severely, I'll have to circle the wagons and look at who knew my play and mayhaps egged me on into the tunnel. IDK.

Yeah. You need a lot of egging on. That's my impression too. Meow meow. Oh god.

Mafia among DH/Turnip/Speed/Wilgy.

Wait, how many active towns are we then? Like 4 after this night probably? Great.

Can Soneji, Dom and DFaraday wake the duck up at least for the numbers if any are town. >_>

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:10 pm Go for it

Well, you said there would be fewer town, and then K-ness flips town.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:07 pm Well that sucks.

Immediate reaction in terms of game solving, please?

Still, the picture being so enormous makes me laugh. So I guess it's still just a game.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:37 pmI find a possible town slip from Turnip from way back. Speed calls Turnip lock clear. I tow nslip in the same way, but neither Speed or anyone else brings that up. I find it a little bit peculiar, but I can always give myself the lock clear.

Dear diary,

Still didn't get towncleared today. Not to worry, for tomorrow is another day, one with fewer townies breathing.

Forever yours,
---Dyslexiscum

Watch me overthink this to the absurd.

I should have known that. I think I did.

Balls. And why am I not a fire breathing dragon and loud and shouty.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:37 pmI find a possible town slip from Turnip from way back. Speed calls Turnip lock clear. I tow nslip in the same way, but neither Speed or anyone else brings that up. I find it a little bit peculiar, but I can always give myself the lock clear.

Dear diary,

Still didn't get towncleared today. Not to worry, for tomorrow is another day, one with fewer townies breathing.

Forever yours,
---Dyslexiscum

Lol.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:55 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:54 pm Is Dharma in bold for me just because that's where I voted? o.o

No. Something is wrong with your computer.

Noooo. I was worried K-ness is Cut Man or something.
Also, K-ness not saying something = K-ness scum?

Is Dharma in bold for me just because that's where I voted? o.o

Alien doesn't interact with Speed. But on a different not, I don't think Alien comes across as especially scummy, except from the "I'm so tired" thing.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:45 pmI assumed they weren’t allowed to be. I’ve never been in a mafia game where dead wolfmates could and did keep talking and I’ve played dozens where death ending scum btsc.

Yeah, same, except one game I played here it was mentioned that dead people could still talk in the scum chat, which I thought was pretty wild.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:43 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:30 pm catch me up, what happened in the last 4 pages

I keep twisting Speedchuck’s arm to vote DH and he keeps doing it, then switching away 5 min later and is currently pretending to not “get” the DH case.

Yeah, pretty sure this also happened.

Kyle, are you going to vote?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:42 pm For the record, the kills thing is more about me and Kness than about Kness ie about me. I just happen to have an available game to link to where Kness and I as scumbuddies choose to off quiet players.

I think Kness is town but if he was scum with Marmot and Luna, the kills may have happened as they fell.

Ok. I do get it. But did you know that Marmot and Luna would still not be in the chat?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:41 pm we need to get rid of gemini man as soon as possible gemini man is ruining the potential for tie meta : \

Ok?
Ok. Do it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:30 pm catch me up, what happened in the last 4 pages

The word meow probably appeared about 17 times still.
Some players don't like Dharma. (Jack, Nova, K-ness, me). Dharma thinks that's unfair.
Some players don't like K-ness. (Speed, Turnip, LC, Dharma). K-ness is sighing a lot.
Some players don't like anyone (mostly me).
Wilgy votes for K-ness and is perhaps drinking something. He breaks the tie.
I find a possible town slip from Turnip from way back. Speed calls Turnip lock clear. I tow nslip in the same way, but neither Speed or anyone else brings that up. I find it a little bit peculiar, but I can always give myself the lock clear.
Jack is very worried about Gemini Man.
When I think about it, it seems Jack assumed that Luna and Marmot would not be able to help in the scum chat anymore since he's insisting on all this "who would make the kills"-logic. So did he actually read the rules? Dun dun duuun.
I may recommend voting K-ness for very selfish purposes.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:43 pmSlurp slurp

You've been about as useful as Dharma... less so, if my recollection serves me (it usually doesn't, though).

Does a scum!K-ness say this to a town!Wilgy? I think nay.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:48 pmI just reread the townslip, and I don't think it's a townslip at all. There's been a bevvy of players who seemed to have glossed over the rules of this game. It can go either way. Turnip didn't read the rules and commented not knowing, or he is using it to try to get people to think he townslipped, or he is just making a joke about his deceased mafia.

Alright. But if he was mafia, he would know that mafia players can't continue to be in the chat thingy when they are dead. They would be taken out. So it's not a matter of just not reading the rules. There is a potential for it to be a fake town slip, of course. Take town slips aren't really all that common though, imo.