The Syndicate

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:10 pm Is it possible it's:
DarlingMonroe/Made
Brad/Bereft?
With some sort of mechanic to prevent Bereft from flipping so his partner isn't outted?

Brad and Made are confirmed partners, they had BTSC

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:59 pm @leetic pyxxy says you could provide us with a shadow vote history (please)?

robyn, Abby, RDB D1, TSP, RBD, Windward D2, Gira D3, Made D4

So yeah, it lines up completely (assuming RDB and psv are paired)

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:04 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:03 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:02 pm Maybe its 1 wolf left in our thread because these kills dont make sense for pairings
how many wolves died in your thread?
1 TSP, didnt you read my vote analysis, or leetics?

Granted, this assumes Bereft isn't a wolf, which is incredibly unlikely but I mean he didn't flip

So that means DrWilgy and Cape90 are my only potential partners. If only one got a shadow vote, they're ted's partner.

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:54 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:50 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
So you are paired with me / made(dizzy)?
huh?
nvm I didnt read. You would have been our D3 vote?
still not sure what you mean.

I got 2 separate messages that said the same thing regarding the shadow vote. the first time it was at the start of my thread's d3, 11/20, and the second was at the start of my thread's d4, 11/22.
are you even playing the same game as me?

Or are things different in thread 2?

You vote, we get +1s to our linked companions
We vote, you get +1's to your linked companions.

Or so I have understood the setup
is that actually the setup though or is that the hypothesis of the setup

Everyone paired with someone who was lynched in the other thread (Abby D1, TSP D2, and Made D4) received a second vote. Looking at the poll from the other thread, tutuu being voted D1 lines up with robyn receiving a secret vote, and this seems to confirm psv as RDB's partner. Gira received one D3, which lines up with Scotty being voted. So yeah, I think this is confirmed.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).
ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm
I thought the same. Likely paired. Also watcher definitely not a town-restricted role, so...

Though the thing is, ted and I are the only claimed town PRs on my side alongside the flipped Windward. Given the amount claimed on your side, it'd be a weird disparity.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm

Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread
hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night
... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm

Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread
hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night
Proved it how?
FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take
Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign
NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Are you pyxxy's partner?
Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread
hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night
... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Are you pyxxy's partner?
Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread
hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night
Proved it how?
FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:50 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
So you are paired with me / made(dizzy)?
huh?
nvm I didnt read. You would have been our D3 vote?
still not sure what you mean.

I got 2 separate messages that said the same thing regarding the shadow vote. the first time it was at the start of my thread's d3, 11/20, and the second was at the start of my thread's d4, 11/22.

We have a hypothesis that whoever receives the most votes in one thread gets a shadow vote in the other thread.

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm D1: robyn lynch, vanilla town
N1: MacDougall nightkill, vanilla town
D2: TSP lynch, wolf 2x Bus Driver
N2: Windward nightkill, 2x Roleblocker
D3: pyxxy lynch, vanilla town
N3: Bereft nightkill (presumably), ???
D4: Dizzy/Made lynch, vanilla town
N4: Gira nightkill, vanilla town

Can someone provide me a walkthrough of the other thread in this manner? I'm curious of how DarlingMonroe and tutuu seemingly died at the same time

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:41 pm So here's all the confirmed partnersh

nutella/Mac
ilario/TSP
Porscha/Abby
Jack/Ranmilla
tutuu/robyn
Delta/no one
Long Con/WindwardAway
Brad/Made
Scotty/Gira
DarlingMonroe/Bereft
Alexy/pyxxy
who does that leave?

You, me and tedxtr on one end, Cape90, psv, and Wilgy on the other.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Are you pyxxy's partner?
Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread
hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

Proved it how?

So here's all the confirmed partnersh

nutella/Mac
ilario/TSP
Porscha/Abby
Jack/Ranmilla
tutuu/robyn
Delta/no one
Long Con/WindwardAway
Brad/Made
Scotty/Gira
DarlingMonroe/Bereft
Alexy/pyxxy

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm Day 1 Vote:
leetic - Voters: pyxxy
robyn - Voters: leetic, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon(Made), MacDougall, Gira, TonyStarkPrime, WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr - Voters: RondoDimBuckle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
No vote / Unvote - Voters: robyn , Bereft

Day 2 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters: TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: pyxxy
pyxxy- Voters: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime- Voters: Bereft, RondoDimBuckle, Gira, WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia

Day 3 Vote:
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: pyxxy, Ranmilia
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Voters: Bereft
pyxxy- Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆,Dyslexicon(Made), leetic, Gira, tedxtr

Day 4 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters: tedxtr, Dyslexicon(Made), Gira
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia

Seems I was beaten to the punch. Classy, coloring yourself in as green.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:32 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:22 pm Anyway, if there were two remaining wolves in my thread one of these combinations must be true:

RDB/Abby
RDB/Ranmilia
RDB/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr

Sadly I can't analyze their ISOs as easily without being able to quote them
This is the full list
Rondo/Abby
Rondo/Ranmilia
Rondo/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Leetic/Rondo
Leetic/ted
Leetic/Abby
Lettic/Ranmilia

I know any pairings with me in them are bullshit.

D1:

leetic: pyxxy
robyn: leetic, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, MacDougall, Gira, TonyStarkPrime, WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr: RondoDimBuckle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
No vote/unvote: robyn, Bereft

D2:

RondoDimBuckle: TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon: pyxxy
pyxxy: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime: Bereft, RondoDimBuckle, Gira, WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
(not voting): Dyslexicon

D3:

Made: pyxxy, Ranmilia
Gira: RondoDimBuckle
☆Princess Abigail☆: Bereft
pyxxy: ☆Princess Abigail☆, Made, leetic, Gira, tedxtr

D4:

RondoDimBuckle: tedxtr, Made, Gira
Made: ☆Princess Abigail☆, RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.

Are you pyxxy's partner?

Anyway, if there were two remaining wolves in my thread one of these combinations must be true:

RDB/Abby
RDB/Ranmilia
RDB/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr

Sadly I can't analyze their ISOs as easily without being able to quote them

Anyhoo, Porscha was Abby's partner while Ranmilia is Jack's.

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Also Porscha was removed from the game last night for over posting
this is a thing?

I can confirm this is true.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:05 pm On our side Ilario and Lime Coke flipped W. Delta flipped 3p. Long Con, Porscha, Scotty flipped town. Don't think I'm missing anyone.

Also, what kind of ITP was Delta? Brad said something about it in the other thread but I won't take his word for it

Also he said something about Bereft acting trolly and saying that Porscha was a wolf; is that true?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:11 pm 9 of us remaining,

Host states untraditional endgame going on. Do we think 2-3 wolves remain?

If the subthreads were split evenly, and your side didn't see 2 wolves and a 3p does that imply a greater chance for wolf amongst y'all and a 3rd party not found?

3 most likely assuming each thread started with three. If it can end today, we're likely dealing with either killing roles in play or ITP(s) messing up the numbers.

D1: robyn lynch, vanilla town
N1: MacDougall nightkill, vanilla town
D2: TSP lynch, wolf 2x Bus Driver
N2: Windward nightkill, 2x Roleblocker
D3: pyxxy lynch, vanilla town
N3: Bereft nightkill (presumably), ???
D4: Dizzy/Made lynch, vanilla town
N4: Gira nightkill, vanilla town

Everyone else who died is either vanilla or most likely vanilla in Bereft's case as he was tracked visiting nobody N1 even if he hasn't flipped.

Windward confirmed 2 shot roleblocker, roleblocked tedxtr D1 and probably roleblocked me D2. TSP was a 2-shot Bus Driver who definitely didn't target Bereft N1.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:05 pm On our side Ilario and Lime Coke flipped W. Delta flipped 3p. Long Con, Porscha, Scotty flipped town. Don't think I'm missing anyone.

Since Made flipped town, that confirms that w/t partnerships are possible. I guess I feel a little less bad for the Made mislynch since I was able to correctly identify Brad as a wolf though.

Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

Anyway, TSP is a wolf, while Bereft didn't flip (likely an ITP or a janitor kill). Everyone else who has died in the thread I'm from is town.

So the merge has happened. Thought the message I'd received on Discord meant I was nightkilled, but here we are.

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