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Delta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:05 pm We're down uhh

4 mafia? 3 landlords 1 whatever Falcon was

I kinda want to say the landlord faction are gone? I think 3 each side balances out for around 30 people

I'd think there are four on each side, with multiball you need a bit more wolves to be balanced. Two per faction per thread makes sense here, discounting any ITPs.

[VOTE: Dig E5] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:02 pm [VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Still tunneling? You do realize I'd have to be paired with falcon, as it's likely that all landlords from my side are dead?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:01 pm That is convenient that Abi died. She absolutely went off the rails on falcon at the end, almost too obviously a teammate.

That's the funny thing: they're both wolves but not teammates

Nice bus Abby

Anyway, I think it's probably safe to say there's no more landlords on my side of the thread

Anyway, I'm fine with a falcon vote.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:29 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:27 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:22 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:20 pm are my votes because inactivity?
sort of, yes. I'd like
answers to more stuff from you.
Like the "delta ping"
the delta ping came from this Epi post:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:42 am One thing about Delta.

Delta has 900 people on the good list.

only mafia/wolves can confidently clear so many town easily... that's also why Lime Coke gave himself away with the town list he did
I disagree with this premise.

Eh. If someone's stuck in a world where they clear so many people that there's no room for wolves, they're likely scum.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:49 pm OK, but do I really want to be on the same wagon as Sloonei?

Hmmmm

You said they seem alright, so I don't see what's the issue

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:32 pm Going to try to finish up what I did yesterday but I'm not in the mood to go in as much detail for the explanations.

Cape - Generally vibed with reads. Feels like they have been reading my posts. Similar to town Cape I've seen in the past.
Sabi - Never really vibed with Sabi's reads. Didn't pay much attention to them either. Skimmed through ISO and think they could be wolf. I did think their post about thread being boring and hoping someone will stir the pot was kind of towny but it's not something solid I can lean on.
Master Radishes - Hmmm Radishes is actually OK. Next.
DrWilgy - Wilgy's ISO is not as bad as I thought it would be TBH. The frog noises tickled me. This is more of a tone read though.
DarlingMonroe - Not a lot of reads. Not feeling the tone either. Could be wolf.

Would probably order like so:
Cape
Master Radishes
Sabi
DrWilgy
Darling Monroe

If I added everyone else:
Cape
Windward
nutella

Dyslexicon
Master Radishes
DrWilgy

Nanook
Sabi
Darling Monroe

IDK how I feel about this but it is what it is.

Is there anyone from my side of the thread that stands out to you?

I'm not really sure where this Abby suspicion came from

I mean, I guess I'd prefer a DM vote to a Lemonfairy one, but I'm still set on voting someone from my own side.

Briefly looking at DM however, they've done basically jack shit in this thread. All I can really get is a hostile attitude towards Epi, without really explaining their "suspicion". Is this enough to be the second largest wagon? Maybe to someone from the other thread it is?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:33 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 pm [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

I again will not be around for EoD, but this is my preferred wagon at the moment. Epi’s confidence, and Monroe’s complete lack of pep and/or verve, with a particularly unconvincing response to pressure, make me want to push this button.

I still am not convinced that Lemonfairy or falcon are town either. But Monroe feels like a better choice right now.
Interesting that this is the second time your vote is entirely because of Epi
I don't find it that interesting.

Then you're boring

I'm still sticking to voting to someone from my side today. Voting DrWilgy in Severance because the people from the other side said he was wolfy was a mistake.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:50 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 pm [VOTE: darlingmonroe] aubergine

I again will not be around for EoD, but this is my preferred wagon at the moment. Epi’s confidence, and Monroe’s complete lack of pep and/or verve, with a particularly unconvincing response to pressure, make me want to push this button.

I still am not convinced that Lemonfairy or falcon are town either. But Monroe feels like a better choice right now.

Interesting that this is the second time your vote is entirely because of Epi

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:00 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:32 pm I've never had any clue how to read nanook.
I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.
What game was that?

Philosophy 2

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:32 pm I've never had any clue how to read nanook.

I mean, my one prior game with t!NANOOK had them postcapping early and getting killed N1 and my one prior game with w!NANOOK had them slanking to the end. Their energy here is much more reminiscent of the latter "performance", but my perspective may be skewed.

Anyway, NANOOK looks, if not quite as lame as in Beans, still a bit weak? It seems like he's moving between suspicions based more on thread atmosphere than anything else, aside from the Dyslexicon vote that they didn't really seem to do anything with? The other people from the other thread who have done at least a decent amount look fine for now. Not sure why Lemonfairy caught fire the way they did, sure their contributions in this thread have not been especially impressive but they're far from the only person I can say that of.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:33 pm Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?

Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

WIFOM

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:51 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine

so like

leetic is mafia right guys?

Not on your nelly, mate.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:11 pm Damn, I just scrolled up and thought I saw a tit.

Well, you asked for it...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:51 am How about this?

Among those who have 10 or more posts in this thread right now, whom do you suspect the most?

I say Sloonei.

Long Con I guess? None of them are particularly high on that list

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:35 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:33 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:24 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:19 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.
It kinda sounds like pyxxy was very alone in the thread.
nobody was townreading Lime Coke either in our thread, but there were at least one or two folks who felt that lunching him for lowposting wasn't the best choice.
I heard about the multiball theory being floated in your thread; do you think that's more likely than pyxxy being bussed or ignored by a partner?
While it is true that there wasn't anybody really defending pyxxy (besides Delta maybe?) the pushers of pyxxy weren't really that forceful either? For most of the phase, the only pushers were Abby, Epi (who basically mentioned them offhandedly after I asked them who they would be okay with dying) and Sloonei (who was only there because Epi was, and not because they voiced a strong suspicion of pyxxy themselves) (and Scrappy I guess). pyxxy only really went down after he was flailing at EoD. So I think it is likely that his partners ignored him for most of the phase, but may have bussed him at EoD (but I'm not 100% certain on that part).
ok, thanks for your thoughts. I'm trying to get a good picture of what happened in the West thread to see if there are parallels in the East. I had a theory that maybe wolves could still communicate with each other despite the split, so if the team knew that both Lime Coke and pyxxy were going down on the same day, they might have coordinated an attempt to make the rest of the team look good. A double-bus would be pretty brutal, though, so one of those flips might have been unintentional. I think it was pretty clear in East that Lime was definitely going to flip once he started posting on D1. How close was pyxxy's wagon to any counters?
pyxxy had 7, leetic 4, Delta 3.

Of course, keep in mind that two of pyxxy's votes were at the last minute.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:19 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.
It kinda sounds like pyxxy was very alone in the thread.
nobody was townreading Lime Coke either in our thread, but there were at least one or two folks who felt that lunching him for lowposting wasn't the best choice.
I heard about the multiball theory being floated in your thread; do you think that's more likely than pyxxy being bussed or ignored by a partner?

While it is true that there wasn't anybody really defending pyxxy (besides Delta maybe?) the pushers of pyxxy weren't really that forceful either? For most of the phase, the only pushers were Abby, Epi (who basically mentioned them offhandedly after I asked them who they would be okay with dying) and Sloonei (who was only there because Epi was, and not because they voiced a strong suspicion of pyxxy themselves) (and Scrappy I guess). pyxxy only really went down after he was flailing at EoD. So I think it is likely that his partners ignored him for most of the phase, but may have bussed him at EoD (but I'm not 100% certain on that part).

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:17 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.
Would have liked to see leetic on a line in there.

Do it yourself, I'm obviously not a neutral observer of my own actions

Like some others have mentioned, I'm only interested in voting someone from my side of the thread today. Don't want to make the same mistake I made in Severance; I want to see y'all in action myself rather than taking whoever's word for who's been towny or wolfy.

A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.

Looking at Caitlin's EoD, she was also suspecting falcon. When two nightkills in a row point to the same person, I simply can't ignore that. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

So Seanzie was mostly tunneling Porscha D2 but he also suspected falcon and Sig.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:57 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.
Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?
I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.
leetic sent one to Lime Coke.
that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum
You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.
I genuinely did not even notice.

@leetic Mind explaining for the entire class you selected Lime Coke as your gift recipient?

I've explained it in the previous thread, I just chose someone I was more familiar with. They died D1 so no harm done.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:43 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:41 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:39 pm hi everyone!

summary of east thread:

brad flipped landlord D1
michelle and rondo both flipped town N1
alison flipped town D2
creature (guillo) flipped town N2
So Brad and pyxxy are aligned
oh, you also got a landlord flip
i think it's funny the mafia faction here is called landlords, since the "landlords" in rondo's game last year were the town faction

People in my thread were pretty convinced that this is a multiball game

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:39 pm hi everyone!

summary of east thread:

brad flipped landlord D1
michelle and rondo both flipped town N1
alison flipped town D2
creature (guillo) flipped town N2

So Brad and pyxxy are aligned

Was Brad a landlord?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:24 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:22 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:16 pm Was porscha nked or voted out?
from the order i
guess spacedaisy was the yeet
porscha and sean night?
Spacedaisy was modkilled or day vigged, Porscha was the lynch
oh huh alright then
was there counter to porscha
anyone look bad

Sig was CW to Porscha. I'll have to reread everything though. I didn't expect the Seanzie NK, so might have to look over his reads.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:16 pm Was porscha nked or voted out?
from the order i
guess spacedaisy was the yeet
porscha and sean night?

Spacedaisy was modkilled or day vigged, Porscha was the lynch

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