The Syndicate

Golden, I am tired of reproducing your images. Find another engine, or maybe someone else who wants me dead can do it.

I am going to revert to my prior days stance.

If all you guys wanna do is lynch me and not the baddies, let's do it. It will be awesome rubbing this in peoples noses. DH seems to have a history of misjudging me in Arkham games. I am up for it.

Precedent is not everything, Golden. We all do whatever over the course of the years we have played.

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:

Offhand,no. Are you saying you willonly do what you have done before?
Are YOU saying you will only do what you've done before?

No. But I still don't think ANYONE would defend Sabie.

The mainpoint is that I would also defend a teammate like Glorfindel. You can't compare him & Sabie. He is playing and trying & is very involved.

Again, you only do things you have done before?

Offhand,no. Are you saying you willonly do what you have done before?

You are nicer than I

And Glorfindel is playing, he's involved, he's fighting. I would fight for a teammate like that too, tbh. Comparing Glorfindel to Sabie is apples/asparagus.

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:It's mad late and I promise I'll do the legwork of this at some point but check this shit out:

I bet if we cross reference the list of players who voted to go to locations other than the ones sabie went to with the list of say, Mac or Sprityo or w/e voter, we will end up with a pretty meaty case for her teammate(s).
I have not listened toany of them since the second. I know little about this theme, and they pretty much went over my head.

Have you ever played a decoding game with me? I don't bother with that shit.Another reason I thought the whole "SVS & Sabie coordinated their night poll votes" to be kinda lulz.

I am fairly sure that if I am not lynched, I will be insanified for the rest of the game. I got a little "task" and I gave up after step #1. The task said I could ask for help, and I did, but I was told I could not ask for help

So expect lots of insanification soon.

Golden wrote:

Maybe because of things like this:

Golden wrote:

You think maybe?

And TH made one post right after I had my "I am self voting and taking my toys & going home moment" that is probably the truest thing anyone on a mafia game has ever said about me. And that is why he thinks I am not bad, and he is right

MacDougall wrote:Glorfindel and Golden are mafia teammies

I kind of agree with this

And I see Typh has already voted Golden. I would rather vote for Glorfindel, for me Golden is guilt by association with Glorfindel. I feel stronger about Glorfindel. Plus Golden is cursed. But I willhold until before I go to bed to vote unless Glorfindel takes a lead.

DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:It's mad late and I promise I'll do the legwork of this at some point but check this shit out:

I bet if we cross reference the list of players who voted to go to locations other than the ones sabie went to with the list of say, Mac or Sprityo or w/e voter, we will end up with a pretty meaty case for her teammate(s).

I have not listened toany of them since the second. I know little about this theme, and they pretty much went over my head.

Also, you keep trying to reconstrue the points of the suspicion against you into being about your tone in here vs. Star Wars.

I really think it is about your content in this thread. From the time I thought you were being super selective about what you said regarding trusting Zebra and distrusting Matt, I have had you in the back of my mind. That had nothing to do with your tone, although you also tried at that time to say it was about your politeness and tone, and again, it was your content.

I could not find it, can you link me to it?

No one would have.

Show of hands, which of you here, if you were bad teammates with Sabie, would have tried to save her?

Faraday, would you have tried? I am sure her real teammates did not try.

I am just saying I can't imagine exposing myself while trying to save a teammate who barely posts. I don't love chucking people, and I try not to if at all possible, but seriously, would ANY of you tried to save Sabie?

Good Luck with that

You, Golden & Glorfindel, I presume?

Like I said, anyones points linking me to Sabie are untrue. This is a sweeping statement becasue it is the truth. Whether they are your points or someone elses, and regardless of what the points are, they will be untrue.

Like I said, if you like I can go through your points and type "Nope, untrue" after all of them. I would be happy to do it for you

DharmaHelper wrote:I meant moreso my points not Goldens.

Anyones points linking me to Sabie are untrue. Because I was not linked to Sabie. Since this is a game of hidden knowledge, it is easy to take almost any supposition and find a way to find evidence for it. But That does not make the case correct. Other people apparently judged it based on the content, and as the person who knows the truth of it, I judged it based on that truth.

And there is no truth in it. And that is really all I can say about it. I can go through it point by point and say "Nope" to all of them if you like.

DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.
Um hm. Golden has been defending you most of the game on a more or less overt level.

Can you tell me why you are going to vote for me without quoting his case? Or paraphrasing it?
@GLORFINDEL~

I see you were here long enough to reply to Dom, can you please reply to me?

Thanks
You were oddly silent on the SVS/Sabie speculation. Care to comment?

It was wrong. I said so. Not much else to say about that. I was not Sabies teammate, I had no idea of Sabies role, and no more read on her than on Equivocate or Ekeknat. The only think I can recall her saying is that she had run out of her meds. I found speculation that she was my teammate, and that I was trying to save her, to be bizarre when I have literally received a Mafia Award for throwing teammates under the bus. I found the case to be speculative at best, and overblown at worst.

What should I have said about it?

If you are trying to imply that the lack of a solid defense, in your opinion, is the same as asking someone to explain why they are planning on voting for someone, it is not.

S~V~S wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.
Um hm. Golden has been defending you most of the game on a more or less overt level.

Can you tell me why you are going to vote for me without quoting his case? Or paraphrasing it?

@GLORFINDEL~

I see you were here long enough to reply to Dom, can you please reply to me?

Thanks

Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.

Um hm. Golden has been defending you most of the game on a more or less overt level.

Can you tell me why you are going to vote for me without quoting his case? Or paraphrasing it?

I think he corrected someone for spelling his name wrong.

Does he agree with him or suspect him?

Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:
Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?

Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.
Ok Dom, I know it feels different when you're playing than when you're simply reading like I did. I just thought there was more frustration and meltdown than in this game but will give weight to your read having been there.
Personally, I haven't read Glorf as "melt down"-y

Glorfindel wrote:
Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?

Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.
Yes, Dom - I do. I am experiencing some technical difficulties here at the moment that are making posting incredibly annoying. I am trying to address these issues as quickly as I am able but given that I want to post a considered case to support my vote, I trust that you will bear with me in this.

I also appreciate your perspective on the comparison of my posts and playstyle in previous games but I would counsel Juliets not to abandon her views too easily. As bea commented to me some days ago, sometimes having that 'distance' from people and events can prove more revealing than you might think.
So... who? If you can write this post you can surely write a name of someone you'd like to lynch and a few reasons why.

Exactly so; if I vote for Glorfindel, it will not be for his compartive meltdown status between whatever game and this. I am the last person to judge someone based on this sort of thing. If I vote for him, it will be becasue he is not very direct when asked a question, and he attempts to couch suspicions of him as being based on his demeanor rather than on his content when that is not necessarily the case.

Blue is for boys, pink is for girls.

Pink does NOT mean evil

In the poll title.

Glorfindel wrote:Also, can anyone shed any light on the acronym A.S.S may represent?

Animal Sanctuary Squad.

Can anyone shed light on why MM was killed? I don't specifically recall his suspects, so I need to reread him.

Based on who was Riddled, I don't think she was the Riddler, it did not match her suspicions, other than possibly Matt? If she had an Indy role, I think she would play it as a civ.

LoRab wrote:
Glorfindel wrote: Compare that to 'A World Reborn' (where he was Town) and you'll find pretty much the opposite.
No, he wasn't. He was neutral who was incidentally protecting a baddie. Did you mean a different game?

And they killed him

LoRab wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:You could always join #TeamLynchGlorfindel. We'd be happy to have you.
You seem to be on #TeamLynchDharmaHelper
Yeah but I'm a free agent soon and #TeamLynchGlorfindel has a juicier benefits package
Well you'd better start work right now on how you're going to justify your leading a lynch against an obvious Townie because I can promise you, you're going to need it my friend...
I really don't see how you're "obvious" civ at all...

Since he was the first person I actually suspected in this game, I would concur. Especially since the thing I suspected him for was a wholesale semi-vouch for Zebra, who I am not sure was straight up civ.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Enrique wrote:I'm assuming it goes straight to Marone/Falcone?

We also don't know what team he was in, he could be one of tomorrow's killers.

Naw, Epignosis already said the kill isn't inherited.

No, what he said was this:

Epignosis wrote:
Enrique wrote:@Hosts: If a Mafia team is killed off, does the other start killing every night?
No. That's always been a terrible policy. If you eliminate a kill, you eliminate a kill.

Maybe.

Linki @ DH

That "Maybe.

" kinda of makes the answer a bit ambivalent

Yay!!

Sorry wrong smilie lol.

Turnip Head wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Lini @ TH, I will leave again.
Is this what you think I want?

No but I read

as lets not argue.

I was not laughing at YOU.

And I was laughing at it becasue it was so wrong. I have been overreacting negatively to things like this and freaking out, so I am trying a different tack, and trying to react in a lighter way.

You have never seen a case made against you that was so wrong that it amused you?

Lini @ TH, I will leave again.

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, half the thread said they thought you were wrong, and a few hours before the lynch you tried to make another push, so no, I don;t think you can.
This is bullsuit.
I beg to differ. But we'll see
I had no intent of voting for you today at all. You are my third or fourth best suspicion at best. The only reason I voted for you is because you were being an asshole to me.

No I wasn't lol. I was laughing at your case. That isn't being an asshole.

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, half the thread said they thought you were wrong, and a few hours before the lynch you tried to make another push, so no, I don;t think you can.
This is bullsuit.

I beg to differ. But we'll see

Well, half the thread said they thought you were wrong, and a few hours before the lynch you tried to make another push, so no, I don;t think you can.

Golden wrote:Because laughing at my case and saying 'you are so wrong' is exactly what I'd expect from you when I'm right and you want to deflect attention. It doesn't convince me in the slightest that I'm wrong.

I am not trying to convince you. You are not to be convinced.

Golden wrote:Well then, participate. Don't just say you are laughing. If you are A-OK, prove you are civilian.

What's wrong with saying I am laughing? I am.

Well, you are.

You have to expect this when you play, that sometimes you are wrong. And when you are the person you are wrong about reacts however.

You're wrong. I am laughing about it instead of having a conniption. I think I should have spoken to the mod the other day, but today I am all A-OK.

I did not say it was civ, TH, I said it was frustration. That is not necessarily a baddie motiviation. I think frustration is outside of affiliation, I guess. I agree that it is lame, but it is what it is.

Linki, OK. I did not read it that way,and I apologize. I thought it was a sweeping thing.

Linki @ Golden, no I am actually having better. Why is my saying your cases are funny upsetting to you? You are really wrong, and I am finding it kinda fun to read your cases.

So Golden, are you going to make more cases?

linki, probably so.

Bullzeye wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
juliets wrote:
sprityo wrote:just for the simple fact that the floyd lynch will more than likely go through, (which i do support, dont get me wrong) ill be saving my vote for later, and if it's not needed, ill drop it on myself
sprityo, why would you drop a vote on yourself if youre not bad and not an inmate? i just don't understand.
Why do you think only baddies vote for themselves? Sprit may be bad, but a self vote can be from frustration,and in my experience that is the usual reason for it.
Sprit's comment in general looks super shifty (almost as shifty as TH). Like he's okay with a Floyd lynch - but if he doesn't have to save himself he'll vote himself? What does that even mean?

I was asking Jules a question; she seems to be saying that she does not unerstand why someone would self vote if not bad. I am not commenting on Sprit himself at all. I am asking Jules a question;why does she think that? As a self voter, this answer interests me.

juliets wrote:
sprityo wrote:just for the simple fact that the floyd lynch will more than likely go through, (which i do support, dont get me wrong) ill be saving my vote for later, and if it's not needed, ill drop it on myself
sprityo, why would you drop a vote on yourself if youre not bad and not an inmate? i just don't understand.

Why do you think only baddies vote for themselves? Sprit may be bad, but a self vote can be from frustration,and in my experience that is the usual reason for it.

Right which is why I said "like I would not have"

Tense, Golden.

Like I said,keep it up, it's funny.

Abput Sabie of allpeople. Like if I had a no show teammate I would not have thrown her under the bus. That's pretty funny.

I have not already won the game, but yeah, I don't have much of a reason to fight back. I am demoralized and unhappy, and have been for most of the game. I had like 10 seconds of awesome, and then, poof.

So keep making your cases. they're hilarious.

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