The Syndicate

Looking at the Bubbles voters from last time, I would guess it is Juliets

Her & I both have a talent for sockpuppet crossposting

I voted so pointless hanging around. Hasta, good luck DH, and BUBBLES IS BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD.

I thinkit was Juliets, tbh, but there is no proving it either way. I think, based on our history together, mega adversarial, that he would have targeted me.

I think we should lynch Bubbles becasue she is very very very bad, imo.

Good point. I never think of bad blockers blocking bad people

But totally based on my knowledge of DH, I don't think he would have targeted Golden night one, I thinkit would have been me or maybe Typh. Based on history.

Earlier in this game, he made a remark about how he thought I was bad, and about how no one listened to him in Recruitment, and he had to kill me becasue no one listened to him. If he was Scarecrow, or any malicious power, he would have targeted me that night, imo, if he did not tareget me Night One.

And that is as far as I will go defending DH. That is my supa sincere opinion.

Linki, well, I think there are only baddie blockers, but secrets, true. I guess it is possible. But I honestly think he would have targeted me Night One.

I don't have a civ read onhim, I don't think he is Scarecrow. When DH thinks I am bad, and he thought so for some portion of the game, he targets me. I am untargeted by Scarecrow. I don't think he is Scarecrow.

I call shenanigans on that post, Golden.

3/16*

And I had BTS with Bubbles once, I don't underestimate her, she hates being bad and is nervous and it is a self fulfilling prophecy.

Linki, OK, that is word games. I read that as if it meant you thought there was only a last baddie.

Golden wrote:@Matt - there is zero chance of bubbles being the last baddie. She didn't send in a PM last night.

3/6, 6:31

Enrique wrote:Does anyone think DH is good at all?

Bizarrely enough, I do.

Linki @ Golden, once again, I am talking about her posts in this game. Not every game. Someone corrected her out of the thread about Lorabs gender, imo.

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Becasue if the Falcone cop was not lynched, maybe that is who is sending in the PMs? That bit calling LoRab a he, then immediately correcting herself? WTF?
Yeah, but, why? I mean, its stuff like that which always gets bubbles lynched, people find her fishy with the stuff she says, but is it really any different to her other civ games? I don't know that it is. She always gets lynched for odd stuff like that.

@SVS - either role could be sending in the PMs, but TBH, if bubbles is bad, I think she is more likely the recruited cop. I don't think epi would start the game with a team of bubbles and lovedelic.
So if she is the recruited cop then the last baddie is sending them.
Yep. If Bubbles is Falcone, this is what I think must be happening.

So why do you keep saying, Bubbles can't be bad, she was not around to send in the PM, if there could be two of them left?

I know it isn't deliberate Bullz, it is just your style. No judgment.

And Golden, I am more concerned with her posts in *this* game.

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Becasue if the Falcone cop was not lynched, maybe that is who is sending in the PMs? That bit calling LoRab a he, then immediately correcting herself? WTF?
Yeah, but, why? I mean, its stuff like that which always gets bubbles lynched, people find her fishy with the stuff she says, but is it really any different to her other civ games? I don't know that it is. She always gets lynched for odd stuff like that.

@SVS - either role could be sending in the PMs, but TBH, if bubbles is bad, I think she is more likely the recruited cop. I don't think epi would start the game with a team of bubbles and lovedelic.

So if she is the recruited cop then the last baddie is sending them.

Maybe the cop is sending the PMs?

Becasue if the Falcone cop was not lynched, maybe that is who is sending in the PMs? That bit calling LoRab a he, then immediately correcting herself? WTF?

Linki, Right. There could be one Falcone, and their cop.

Golden, was the Falcome cop lynched?

Bubbles wrote:* agree with matt about lorab

also if lorab is a girl i'm sorry for the pronoun mixup :P

OK, this just got me. I am voting for Bubbles. I don't want to vote for Jules today, and I just don't think DH is that role.

Linki @ Enri, yeah, suspects vs. victims, this is why I am thinking Jules could be Scarecrow.

Well, it makes me think he has no "victims" since that would be an amazingly hypocritical thing to say if he had victims. And DH is not someone I have ever vieed as a hypocrite

I don't think he is a baddie or the Scarecrow.

Linki, you can be pretty blendy, Bullz. I have no clue about you, either way. You could be bad, or not. :Shrug:

Linki, ha ha

Agree with who?

I thought we were going for the Scarecrow? Since discussion of who targeted whom is not the norm, I really think DH would have targeted me if he had a malicious power. I was not Scarecrowed. I was only Riddlered.

I will be amazed if he is Scarecrow

Linki, not voting you today Jules. Take care of yourself & your family

I was so pissed when you guys were accusing me of BTS with Sabie, and I had BTS with Sabie in R & B, and she was like almost never there, thread or chat lol. It was like a minor existential crisis (very minor

).

Linki, so who are those people?

I was not counting the recruits, only the original 2.

No, I know. That is why I was, "Sad to say".

She can't defend herself and is having a hard time irl.

One thing hasbeen bugging me; the Maronis were Faraday, blendy, and Nero, a new person. The Falcones are Sabie, not the most involved & ??

I could not say it when I was suspected of being connected to Sabie becasue R & B was still going on, but I was connected to Sabie in THAT game. And I will tell you, she barely showed up to chat. That is why I was laughing about you guys thinking she would be colluding about night location polls.

Balance is king to these hosts, and I don't see them overbalancing one bad team.

GTH

Bass_the_Clever :Loves being bad, super involved in the beginning, but fell off the map. Disinterested BTS partner? BUT has not been here in over a week.

Bubbles: Here or not, I don't think she is a civ. I just don't

Bullzeye: Blendy as always. A possible baddie. Or not. I don't recall much he has said, and GTH means no ISOs lol.

DharmaHelper: Indy or civ; he would have targeted me if he was Scarecrow.

Dom: Indy or civ, not getting the case on him, but he has pulled the wool over on me.

ekeknat: ???????????????????????????

Enrique: Would have targeted Golden Day 1, would have faked being anti inmate. Not sure why he would have brought up Scarecrow, though. Could be bad, or not.

Equivocate: ?????????????????????????

Golden: I amnot seeing, nor have I ever seen, glowy super civ Golden. Indy.

juliets: Sadly this is who I think may be Scarecrow. Writes lots of isos, but they aren't really cases.

Lorab: Same as Bullz. I over cxompensate with her and tend to BOTD her since i USUALLY READ HER AS BAD.

Matt: Low Derp ratio; he is not bad. Could be Indy

MovingPictures07: Well, lol.

S~V~S: Not bad, not an inmate

Typhoony: I don't think he is bad. He could be an inmate.

Matt wrote:
Matt wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Matt wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Matt wrote:Golden - As a civ, is Bubbles more or less likely to read the thread and not post anything? Same question as a baddie, I suppose. Last night she was lurking but didn't post.

What are you thinking?
Little late in the game to be lurking especially after she's taken heat for that whacked out vote.
I was thinking along those lines...

More like, Golden said she has trouble lying as a baddie, so maybe that's why she didn't post.
Btw, I'd like to point out that SVS has hardcore fucked with my mind. I intentionally left out a "derp" at the end of that post because I didn't want SVS thinking I was bad for it.

DERP DERP DERP

Ha ha ha~

Actually you would have to go into derp overdrive to catch up to GOC since you have more posts here, so you are safe from me using Derpanomics against you

DharmaHelper wrote:
Dom wrote:I could see Enrique, DH, or Typh doing that.
I couldn't.

I think you would have targeted me at some point. Probably early, I would think. Maybe Day 1.

I don't know of any reason why Typh would specifically target Golden night 1. Or why he would not. No opinion here.

Enrique & Golden went nose to nose Day One, but *Enri* was the one screaming about how the inmates were bad bad bad, so I am not sure what I think of that. Him being one does not come right to mind.

That I cannot say; I agree with Typh, though, about who she would NOT have targeted until she had no choice.

I could also see Jules not lying about being targeted. Lying is not something that automatically comes to mind for her, I think.

Typhoony wrote:I'm having trouble thinking of who juliets would target. In my mind she is more likely to ask Epi if she can also win by not targetting anyone.
I think she would not be quick to target me or svs though.

This.

Also trying to think who specifically would target Golden day one.

Dom would have targeted me too I think, tbh.

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Why would Scarecrow be honest?
Why would scarecrow lie? Both sides create wifom. I don't think we can assume that Scarecrow would do one or the other.

Well considering that the possible Scarecrow list consists of self reporters, why wouldn't he just say he was targeted? He knows everyone he targeted so he could just pick a night he targeted someone dead. Why wouldn't he lie?

I think DH is more likely to have targeted me than not.

Bea reads her better than I, but overall I am not seeing much of the "heh heh" baddie LoRab vibe. I will reread through her posts myself tomorrow and take a closer look.

Linki, I am not Scarecrow. Are you relying on self reporting to determine who is on the list? Why would Scarecrow be honest?

Matt wrote:
Derp.

SVS, I found your theory in this game and Turf Wars to be interesting, so I checked it out.

In Star Wars, when I was indy Boba Fett and was lynched on Day 1, you know how many times I said "Derp" ? Zero. I was pretty nervous too when Zeebs went after me for continuously bringing up the Death Star. When I replaced back in as Uncle Owen, I said "derp" a total of 11 times the rest of the game. Uncle Owen was civvie.

In AWR, as civvie Karma Chameleon, I said "derp" about 15 times.

In Dune, as civvie Paul Mauddib, I said "derp" twice. That was a side mission game, tho, and we destroyed all the baddies by the end of Day 6 I believe.

In contrast, as a baddie...

Pet Sounds - "Derped" 3 times.

Lost - "Derped" 3 times

GoC - "Derped" about 25 times.

Wow. So yeah, in GoC, I derped it up, but I know for a fact that "derps" has nothing to do with my alignment in any game. It's just something I like to say.

I still intend on maintaining a Derp Index for my own use in future games

juliets wrote:Bullz - Night 8
DH
Dom - No
Enrique - Night 9
Golden - Night 1
juliets - no
LoRab - no
Matt - Night ?
MP
SVS~no
Typhoony

No.

S~V~S wrote:
Enrique wrote:Who would be your best guess for the Scarecrow, SVS?

Also how do we feel about Matt casting doubt on MP instead of trying to hunt the Scarecrow?
I have no clue. It isn't me, if that is what you are asking; I am neither bad nor inmate. I am not overly good at role assignment and I don't bother with it much unless it mskes a difference to me specifically, and even then I am the suck at it unless I have people to discuss it with, which in this game I do not.

I missed the second part of this. Since I tend to view Matt as a conspiracy theorist, I also am not surprised when he has issues letting go of a theory. But it is an interesting point about him, although having just hosted him bad I am seeing a very different person in this game and since I tend to be a tone reader rather than a logic reader, that carries weight for me.

GTH, I am neutral about Matt. I suppose he could be an inmate, although which one, I have no clue. I don't think he is bad, though.

Enrique wrote:Who would be your best guess for the Scarecrow, SVS?

Also how do we feel about Matt casting doubt on MP instead of trying to hunt the Scarecrow?

I have no clue. It isn't me, if that is what you are asking; I am neither bad nor inmate. I am not overly good at role assignment and I don't bother with it much unless it mskes a difference to me specifically, and even then I am the suck at it unless I have people to discuss it with, which in this game I do not.

Enrique wrote:Retaking the Mac voters thing.... which, I know, shame on me when it was so lame coming from DF. But looking at it from another angle: Matt, SVS, Bullz and Typhoony all voted for him after he outed himself. Matt claims he was asked to kill MP, so that's interesting.

Chances the Scarecrow would make people need Mac dead (as we know he did with Golden, it'd be helpful to know on what night) because he wanted him dead and not just to fuck around with us? Would he make others vote for him and then also jump in the wagon? SVS, where are you in this conversation?

I did not catch the hints until they were pointed out at me. I felt he was bad to the point that I felt he could have been fake hinting, even after the whole role hinting conversation first started.

No one made me need Mac dead, if that is what you are asking me.

Dom wrote:You're tracking Derps?

No, I just searched his posts. I think it is a nervous tic, if you will. Now that I have pointed it out I think he will be more aware of it. But I think he tends to be more nervous when he's bad. So more nervousness, more nervous tics. I play with my hair when I am nervous, and I do it much less seldom when I am relaxed. Same principle.

Yay I can talk, Thanks Eddie for making that not as bad as it could have been

I think Bubbles vote and limited posts are a bit too well informed. I know she says she was here in the 10 days between her posts, but I don't recall ever seeing her. Her post about Doms chattiness level was bizarre, as was her vote for me.

I need to do some more reading on Matt, I don't think he looks much like GOC Matt to me. The Derp Index is also telling for me; he has 477 posts with 23 derps so far in this game, an index of .05. In GOC he had 308 posts, with 34 derps, an index of .11, more than double. He was blendier in general there, only coming to full Mattness in endgame.

Long Con wrote:
DFaraday has been lynched. He was Maroni.

GOOD

Matt wrote: However, DF destroyed bea and Marmot so he's dead to me.

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S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:SVS, as much as you can, and maybe you've already done this, but what are your thoughts on dom?

LoRab wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:Can someone remind me of the arguments against Bubbles?
She had an early post that said that Dom seemed to be posting more than usual, which was odd, and felt like she was getting information from elsewhere. Also, in what games has Dom not been a high poster. I've been asking about that since she made the post and have yet to get an answer.

Her post last lynch came out of nowhere and seemed like had been coached, or at least that she had been pushed towards the thread.

Also, to me, she usually posts about once around, and this time has barely been posting at all. Yet has been online (several folks have commented that they've seen her online and she's had posts), so could have been around to send in kills, even if she's not posting in the thread.
THAT ^^
COMFORTABLENESS
FORESHADOWED
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MENG
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Golden wrote:SVS, as much as you can, and maybe you've already done this, but what are your thoughts on dom?

LoRab wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:Can someone remind me of the arguments against Bubbles?
She had an early post that said that Dom seemed to be posting more than usual, which was odd, and felt like she was getting information from elsewhere. Also, in what games has Dom not been a high poster. I've been asking about that since she made the post and have yet to get an answer.

Her post last lynch came out of nowhere and seemed like had been coached, or at least that she had been pushed towards the thread.

Also, to me, she usually posts about once around, and this time has barely been posting at all. Yet has been online (several folks have commented that they've seen her online and she's had posts), so could have been around to send in kills, even if she's not posting in the thread.

THAT ^^
COMFORTABLENESS
FORESHADOWED
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MENG
MO

juliets wrote:uh oh - maybe thats not what you wanted.

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juliets wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
S~V~S wrote:MATT
DH
WHY?
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MOONROOF
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MEL
I'm not sure I can decode your second part but here is what Matt said about DH:

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Matt wrote:Okay. So I went ahead and looked at which locations Nero picked on Nights 0 and 1. Arkham and GCPD. Then I decided to cross check with other players to see if they haven't gone to those locations or if they've only recently gone there.

Check it...

On Nights 6 and 8, DH chose GCPD and Arkham. What's kind of curious to me is that DH seems to be in the know with comics, and we're playing a Batman game, a Batman Arkham game at that, and he doesn't visit the Asylum until Night 8? Hrm. Anyway, before Night 6, assuming DH is Maroni, this would mean their team already had 7 voice recordings so why not skip a night to keep up appearances in case anyone goes around sniffing at the polls?

Anyway, so I'm getting ahead of myself.

Here are some quotes...

DharmaHelper wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Just cast my vote for Arkham Asylum.

Also, why has the hosts voted for the zoo?
Every poll is going to have a "Host Option" for the hosts, anyone who is dead, and anyone who is not playing to vote for. It helps the Hosts keep track of the poll without having too much trouble.
We know Nero was bad so he could have easily asked his teamies this question which makes it seem fake. And there's DH to answer his fake question. Distance!

DharmaHelper wrote:People calling Nero out for being quiet moments before his essay makes me nervous.
This was said on Day 1 when TH and others (?) were looking Nero's way. Interesting sidenote, I looked through a few pages and didn't see Nero speak of any essay, so I don't know where that came from, but perhaps it's there somewhere and I missed it. Derp. Either way, DH lightly defending Nero.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:I misread Friday am as pm, so Im suddenly in a hurry to vote, as I'm going to bed soon.

I honestly don´t know, and its stressing me out that I have to vote for someone. Im considering Floyd, even though I don´t like lynching low posters. I did notice him being online earlier today while I was reading and he hasn´t posted. I know I did it myself, but at least I gave an explanation for doing it.

Yeah Im going with Floyd. Time zones suck.

Im interested in seeing the outcome tomorrow. Goodnight ya´ll.

This was also Day 1. DH never elaborates on his chin stroke. If indeed teamies with Nero and Floyd, then this could just be an honest reaction of "Why?" Haha.

DharmaHelper wrote:Lets lynch Nero.
Keep in mind, he says this, but has already placed his vote on MP. Then someone, I'm assuming, asked him why and his response...

DharmaHelper wrote:Why? Because I don't want to lynch Matt right now and Nero has a couple of votes.
That's weird because I think DH would usually want to lynch someone for more then "cuz they have a few votes". This just kind of sounds sarcastic to me honestly, like he doesn't even mean it. Again, he had already placed his vote on MP.

DharmaHelper wrote:The case against Matt is - "Nevermind there is no case against Matt"

And the case against Nero is that Matt thinks he might be the Riddler or something.
Again, he doesn't seem to even want to lynch Nero despite saying "Let's lynch Nero." "Matt thinks he might be the Riddler or something" seems very dismissive, not supportive of a case on Nero. Remember all this later because it's important.

DharmaHelper wrote:I think we're making the best decision Enrique could make and that's all we can ask for in any lynch.
A riff of the 3J quote in Mac's sig, basically making fun of Enrique's "Don't lynch Matt, lynch sig or Nero!" post. Again, doesn't feel like he really wants Nero lynched.

DharmaHelper wrote:JC/Golden, had I said "Let's lynch X" would you have voted for X?
In response to JC/Golden both voting Nero. This doesn't look like someone who wants Nero lynched, questioning those who chose to vote him.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Isn't it a Syndicate Mafia tradition to lynch the new player first? Maybe that's why there was a no lynch yesterday

I had been thinking of giving Matt the botd in his lynch Nero/Enrique crusade anyway (and I don't think Matt is bad, I think he's Indy based on a couple of posts he's made today) so I'll be voting for Nero today's since he's come up with both Matt and Enrique.

I hope you guys are right!
What do you mean you hope "you guys" are right? Why are you unconcerned if you yourself are correct? Why pawn off the accountability?
Again, Sorsha follows a Nero vote, and DH doesn't seem happy about it.

DharmaHelper wrote:Welcome to the site, Nero.
In response to the lynch ending. Again, sounds sarcastic, he doesn't seem happy.

Now the following quotes occur when DH starts taking heat for being Nero's teamie, here is what DH says...

DharmaHelper wrote:Bruv I literally convinced two people to vote for Nero in order to save you what the fuck are you smoking.

DharmaHelper wrote:I voiced my assent in a Nero lynch. That alone should be enough to tell you he was not my teammate.

DharmaHelper wrote:Remember that time I literally said "Hey lets lynch Nero"

Yeah me too
He goes on to say the same thing over and over again to sig and MP who are questioning him over it, but like...yeah you said "Let's lynch Nero" but then you made a ridiculous reason as to why you wanted him lynched ("cuz he has votes"), downplayed why I wanted him lynched ("Matt thinks he's the Riddler or something"), made a riff off of 3J's quote to make Enrique look silly based on his turnaround, questioned Golden, JC, and Sorsha who all voted Nero...

Basically, he didn't really "lead" or "advocate" a Nero lynch as he claims. Not at all.

I did a search of Floyd in DH's post history, too...the following quotes take place on Day 1

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So... I'm swamped beyond belief and there's no way I'll make it before EoD. I'm still on page 11 when I last posted. Sorry everyone.

I know this is very unlike me, but I don't have any remotely firm leads on anyone from what I can recall, since the only player I had thought even seemed slightly suspicious (zebra) no longer seemed suspicious to me after I talked with her, so... yeah. I randomized among "low posters" (i.e., those with less than 5 posts) and got TheFloyd73.

Hopefully I can catch up and get back into this game fully by this weekend.

MP votes Floyd. DH refers to MP as Darth Vader. K.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:OK, I'm out now until the EoD because of work commitments so despite not having a convincing argument against any particular individual I'm voting for TheFloyd73. As the votes stand right now, my priority is to avoid the lynching of someone who appears to be at risk and who I am (on balance) convinced may be potentially an asset to us.
Your priority is to avoid the lynching of someone who appears at risk so you voted for the guy with the most votes what are you talking about
Not happy with Glorfy's vote for Floyd, and tries to make Glorfy look nonsensical.

I think we have our Sal Maroni. Boop.

S~V~S wrote:
S~V~S wrote:MATT
DH
WHY?
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FEEL

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S~V~S wrote:MATT
DH
WHY?
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DF:

MATT
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WHY

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S~V~S wrote:MATT
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WHY
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Golden wrote:OK, SVS. Lets see if you can do anything like what TH did.

Please repeat after me.

Yes
No
Suspicious
Agree
Disagree
Town
Mafia
Inmate

YES
NO
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Golden wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Hey Nygma, you punk. Give out some curses that people can work with like you did with me. Asshole.
It might be Poison Ivy. I never noticed you were cursed.

Typhoony wrote:Who are both browsing the forum right now.

Let's hear their thoughts

Linki: Hello SVS

NYGMA
COMFORTABLENESS
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