The Syndicate

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:42 pm No, Kyle voted for Boomslang. I want to know if he did so after sprityo's penalty votes were announced. If so he knew Boomslang would still be safe even wth hs vote. So t does nothng to convnce me that they might not be teammates.

Yes I know who he voted for. I said that no one voted for anyone after Golden announced sprits penalty votes except Niju. So if no one voted except Niju that would mean Kyle voted before the penalty was announced.

None of the sprit voters voted for him after the penalty votes. IIRC only Niju voted after Golden announced the penalty.

I feel worse about INH than Kyle (I'm from NYC, I pronounce Kyle with 2 syllables, just like I pronounce "Wild" with 2 syllables. Sorry, KyUll). I didn't like the way INH reacted to hearing Pikachu had lynched LC and he was bad; he was annoyed we had managed more votes and a lynch rather than happy we caught a baddie. And the thought someone had, about my roles and INHs' roles. I would not have voted to lynch on it alone, but yeah, I thought of that too.

[VOTE: INH] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:09 pm
This is Day 5- SVS' favorite day, but it has nothing to do with Evens. So ignore that for now. On Day 5, Marmot votes for INH for no good reason. Then INH does a NO U for some reason. This might have well been a joke vote because 3 hours later comes INH's opus on why sig is bad. We now know sig was civ, so this case could have been advantageous. Sig was at the bottom of his rainbow list, so it's not like this came out of nowhere. But INH didn't actually want to lynch Marmot. I mean, hell...Marmot was as civ as jack in INH's rainbow list a day prior!

No worries, you won't hear about Day 5 anymore. You can just ignore that.

I will be back to vote. Hasta la vista, honeys.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:20 pm SVS let's be friends k>?

Will you at least fucking pretend that I have actually fucking said things??? If so we have a deal. I am super frustrated right now. People are acting as if things I have been saying for days are somehow new to them.

I give up. It's been fun.

You honestly don't know what I have been saying about Scotty for days??

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:50 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:37 pm I'm still struggling to understand why you would be inclined to go after Scotty instead of his killer.

You're jumping to a conclusion we have no way of knowing.

What conclusion is that? That someone killed Scotty?

This is disingenuous. You know exactly what I mean, I have been saying it for days.

Remarks like this make you look worse, not me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:37 pm I'm still struggling to understand why you would be inclined to go after Scotty instead of his killer.

You're jumping to a conclusion we have no way of knowing.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:33 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:28 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:13 pm Awesome, will be back to vote for Scotty tomorrow.

Night all!

Did you...learn something from Kyle's flip?

No, still think Scotty is bad. Not sure what else you expected.

Do you think Kyle is good?

I think Scotty is more likely to be bad based on my reading of the threads. I guess Kyle could be bad but I think Scotty fitsmore of the baddie criteria.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:28 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:13 pm Awesome, will be back to vote for Scotty tomorrow.

Night all!

Did you...learn something from Kyle's flip?

No, still think Scotty is bad. Not sure what else you expected.

Awesome, will be back to vote for Scotty tomorrow.

Night all!

This is part of the reason I thought you were bad, Sloonei. I no longer think so, but can you see my perspective?

"I don't really think this happened but I don't actually remember it and aren't going to read it to figure it out."

[mention]Epignósis[/mention] missing THAT vote was critical, it could have been the difference between LC being lynched or not.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:32 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:25 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:04 pm idk who to
vote for. lol. wat. help.
idk cbob? boomslang?

Why not kyle?

Kyle didn't care who was lynched day five; indeed Kyle didn't care about the lynch enough to even vote. Had he voted for sig, LC might not have been lynched. I find him an unlikely Even.

And Scotty mocking people isn't nice. I am not conducting.

I am not as certain that there was an effort to save Long Con in Cerberus as you are. I did not want to say this when I was being lynched because I figured it would just he turned against me, but the frustration about our lack of lynches had been mounting. The push by Scotty, myself, and others to get somebody lynched could very well havd just been a product of collective frustration.

Kyle was largely disengaged and I wouldn't expect him to put up a big fight to save his teammate. He just wasn't active enough at the time.

Having said all that, I do not remember exactly how things went down that day.

You should reread it. It is fairly illuminating. And the lynch was very visibly tied, you should at least consider ithere may have been someone trying to save LC before lynching people on POE. I mean you are dismissing it out of hand without even reading it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:16 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:04 pm idk who to
vote for. lol. wat. help.
idk cbob? boomslang?

Why not kyle?

Kyle didn't care who was lynched day five; indeed Kyle didn't care about the lynch enough to even vote. Had he voted for sig, LC might not have been lynched. I find him an unlikely Even.

And Scotty mocking people isn't nice. I am not conducting.

Wow, and you call ME tinfoil, Epi, lol.

I don't see how anyone can be cleared by being NKed in a game with two lives, possible target switching roles, possible post death alignment switches and an Even team featuring a guy who killed himself for cred. In a game Epi hosted, iirc.

Epi said this re Sloonei:

Sloonei's first role was one that could steal powers and use them on other people, and there was no limit on how many times he could use the ability. If you believe Sloonei is an Evil Even, then it means he could have eventually copied LC and nutella's very powerful roles multiple times and caused wicked chaos. I understand Sloonei was on a different tribe than both of them and this opportunity never presented itself, but all that would have had to have happened was Lorab pushing the button Night 1, potentially putting Sloonei in the same tribe as Long Con and nutella, and he would have had a field day copying their vote manipulations and fake revelations.

Nope, I fully believe he used his powers for good. I saw his role, some, um, things, made sense to me that had not before.

I don't think being NKed clears Scotty. I think he fits two sets of criteria, so I voted for him.

[mention]Quin[/mention] I think part of it stems back to Chuck. I think you saw what I was saying re the role reveal, but thought I was in space about the "Chuck is still bad" part. And whenever I start to think that that makes no sense, I go back and reread LCs 2nd lynch, and I am right back there again. He tried HARD to get Dom lynched; both Chuck and LC did. Then after LCs flip, Chuck was like "meh" re Dom. And rereading it, it was like even more than trying to get Dom lynched, he was trying to get people to not vote for LC.

Which, with the game mechanics we did not understand at Pikachu at that point, makes eminent sense for an Even.

This belief has kind of thrown off my whole game. I don't know whether I am a freaking genius or a freaking moron. After yesterday, I am leaning to the latter tbh.

If post game it turns out Chuck was bad I will feel tons better, but right now my confidence is shot.

Re the Even we are looking for, if it is one person I think it is Scotty. He fits both set of criteria, on Slooneis list and a thread leader the day of the day 5 sigwagon. But I don'tintend on getting pushy about it as I am now afraid of haywire instincts.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:01 pm That would be a good idea. I am out at sea because the civ coalition never formed. I made a mistake but I am most def civ.

I've been thinking "what if she's bad?" for a while now. To completely contradict myself, I don't actually think you're bad. But if someone's fooling me, it's you.

Actually the feeling in not un-mutual, if you know what I mean. Except you still hit civ on my GTH. I have spent most of this game feeling you and I were on the same page but not quite. Similar but surprisingly different pages.

My thoughts at this point; looking at Slooneis list, it comes down to between Scotty and Kyle. And that list cross references with my list of people for the Day 5 Cerberus sigwagon. And I don't think Kyle had anything to do with that wagon. He did not vote, he was mostly defending from Scotty.

So for me, it's Scotty. He's on Slooneis short list, he's on my short list. He looks like the person who pushed the unified sigwagon most on Day 5.

So chucking the eggplant to Scotty. Catch!

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

That would be a good idea. I am out at sea because the civ coalition never formed. I made a mistake but I am most def civ.

And for clarity, that bit about having fun was a mafia in general remark, and is not directed towards this thread or this game. It was a philosophical thing, and prolly should have been in green. I was replying to a comment before the one I posted.

I think domineering isn't fun, and no one has done that at all in this game, and I am sorry if that was not clear.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:03 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:01 pm I don't think we're talking about the same thing

You dominated and lead the Day 15 phase. And to be honest, I don't think you were listening to anything anybody else had to say. It lead to a bad result.

That's my perception of it.

I steered the thread Day 5. Whenever anyone tried to bring the discussion around to LC maybe being good, I forced them to confront the Facebook lie. Sloonei did it by setting the parameters for acceptable discussion. Lots of posts =/= steering. I did not steer anything today, setting litmus tests is steering and telling people what to discuss is steering. When I say steering I don't mean dominating, I mean something specific. Steering isn't always bad, but when maintained over time I tend to view it that way.

If you want to blame me for a bad result then go for it, I don't disagree. I listened to everything, I just didn't agree.

And yeah winning is the goal. So is having fun and keeping low posters engaged.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:48 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:22 pm Look guys we know that there is an Even among the group left from pikachu 2.0. That at this point should narrow your list down to Epi, me, Kyle and Scotty. You are going to get a badde out of one the four of us. Please don't fuck around outside of this group. Let's lynch an Even and see if the game continues and reevaluate from there. This is why I voted Kyle. I could vote Kyle or Scotty again tomorrow. I won't be putting my vote anywhere other than one of those two.

Sorry I couldn't stop the lynch train Sloonster.

I don't agree with this method.

I've seen, what, three roles that make other roles that can look this way or that? All it takes is one mafia role that says, "You can target someone from either tribe."

I swear if people come at me like they did Sloonei, I'm gonna be swinging chairs and shit.

Is this to say you disapprove of the theory that has been dominating and guiding the thread for the last three phases?

This dominating and guiding the thread business is part of the problem. That makes people not part of the dominating and guiding clique feel unimportant. We are 20 some individuals, not a hive mind. We need to keep that in mind and not let us it others off if they don't agree with every aspect of heterodox thought.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:11 pm Big damn detective role right there.

Seconded.

Drive by Mafia defined

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:36 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:14 pm So why the stress over "TODAY" would be especially bad, Sloonei? Like you were gonna blow people up or something? Is that another fake role hint like Sprityo?

And Dragon D. Luffy , I understand. But I mean the role itself separate from how it is played.

I had some very special plans.

Well, I am sorry I ruined your plans. Very sincerely. Looking at what I know about things that may have gone bump in the night, this flip helps me sort you better, as I might think you understand. It helps me to understand something that may or may not have happened. I am sorry this had to happen for me to see this, but it is what it is.

Now I need to sort how Daisy fits into this. Good Night.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:19 pm SVS is Quinfoiling.

Yeah I feel like that, like I said, those lyrics I posted, You're my only friend but you're not actually my friend lol

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:22 pm Look guys we know that there is an Even among the group left from pikachu 2.0. That at this point should narrow your list down to Epi, me, Kyle and Scotty. You are going to get a badde out of one the four of us. Please don't fuck around outside of this group. Let's lynch an Even and see if the game continues and reevaluate from there. This is why I voted Kyle. I could vote Kyle or Scotty again tomorrow. I won't be putting my vote anywhere other than one of those two.

Sorry I couldn't stop the lynch train Sloonster.

Agreed, but I think we should look at everyone in that group, including Sloonei, and you, too. I think everyone should post their thoughts on every member of that group. Although I do think there is a Strex left (LoRab is lurking...) as well.

So you know he was civ?

So why the stress over "TODAY" would be especially bad, Sloonei? Like you were gonna blow people up or something? Is that another fake role hint like Sprityo?

And [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] , I understand. But I mean the role itself separate from how it is played.

Oh, no there isn't.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:02 pm I think lynching Sloonei right now is a bad move.

Can you explain why?

Theres still time.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:55 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:17 pm what was the case on cbob? I'm not positive I read the latter half of the last day phase

His first role was mafia as fuck and he played in a way that capitalized on it.

That's why I've wanted to loynch him so far. I kind of stopped thinking of it a few times but that feeling never left.

I do not agree
He was pushing us all to
Look at other votes

This.

Plus I do not think first roles say much about affiliation; and I would think that anyone who has not voted for me (which I think is everyone) would agree with that.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:47 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:42 pm I'm not tinfoiling.

And It was really kinda funny, Boomslang at 5:01, "Bob", then you at 5:02, "Bob". I never said I thought you were on a team with Sloonei.

And as I have said all game long, we are all working on supposition, we don't actually *know* anything. In light of roles like Nutellas and LC's, we can't even be 100% on flips. And I strongly dislike people discounting thread work becasue it does not fit a mechanics construct that is only hypothetical. One of the games I hosted, Dogma, is a game that I know to have been one of Goldens faves (and that Juliets co hosted). It included an entire dead team the rest of the thread knew nothing about, it include merged bad teams, it included a shitton of chaos. Golden likes the mystery, not the predictability.

So if I think someone is bad, I don't appreciate it being blown off becasue it doesn't fit someone elses hypothetical construct. I will take the constructinto account, but it won't trump threadwork in this mechanics scenario.

Why on god's green earth if were on a team wth Boomslang would we try to save Sloone unless he was on our team. You absolutely are tinfoiling right now.

NoI am absolutely not tinfoiling. I never said you were trying to save Sloonei.

Where did I say that?

I actually kind of said the opposite, in the same post where I first mentioned you and Bom being on speed dial, I implied I thought it possible that Sloonei was buddying you.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:22 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 pm
I don't think if someone is buddying you that you are necessarily complicit. LC buddying the crap out of me, and he was my top civ read until he said the hosts freaking told him the name of Cerberus. My thoughts on Sloonei were not totally tied to you.My thoughts about you being a tad suspect started mainly like this:

5:01 Boomslang says "what about Bob?"

5:02 Daisy says: "what about Bob?".

As Quin says, yuck.

linki [mention]Quin[/mention] I know, I am not saying he used those specific mechanics, that was an example of what I know he likes; he is not plain vanilla. I hosted the GOC, I know how it works

I'm not tinfoiling.

And It was really kinda funny, Boomslang at 5:01, "Bob", then you at 5:02, "Bob". I never said I thought you were on a team with Sloonei.

And as I have said all game long, we are all working on supposition, we don't actually *know* anything. In light of roles like Nutellas and LC's, we can't even be 100% on flips. And I strongly dislike people discounting thread work becasue it does not fit a mechanics construct that is only hypothetical. One of the games I hosted, Dogma, is a game that I know to have been one of Goldens faves (and that Juliets co hosted). It included an entire dead team the rest of the thread knew nothing about, it include merged bad teams, it included a shitton of chaos. Golden likes the mystery, not the predictability.

So if I think someone is bad, I don't appreciate it being blown off becasue it doesn't fit someone elses hypothetical construct. I will take the constructinto account, but it won't trump threadwork in this mechanics scenario.

you try to control the narrative way too much for someone who is disengaged, that's for sure.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:25 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:23 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:22 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:51 pmI don't understand why you would suspect Sloonei for giving you a surface read of civ for me, but not suspect me?

what I said about sloonei had basically nothing to do with you. my point was that Sloonei's order of operations for the process of elimination on the whole pika2.0 thing was potentially self-serving and shouldn't qualify as a reason to trust him.

him putting you high up on the list for reasons that he also applied to scotty, who was low on his list doesn't look good to me.

your being good or bad isn't particularly relevant to Sloonei's treatment of you and others in regards to the PoE. the only way Sloonei pulling you away from the fire looks bad for both you and him is if you're both evens, which seems unlikely and also isn't the point that I'm arguing.

I wasn't actually talking to you, sorry. I was really directing it at cbob mainly and kind of towards SVS as well.

I don't think if someone is buddying you that you are necessarily complicit. LC buddying the crap out of me, and he was my top civ read until he said the hosts freaking told him the name of Cerberus. My thoughts on Sloonei were not totally tied to you.My thoughts about you being a tad suspect started mainly like this:

5:01 Boomslang says "what about Bob?"

5:02 Daisy says: "what about Bob?".

As Quin says, yuck.

That felt just like, "out of the chat room into the thread" for real.

so boomslang, daisy, and I are all Evens?

I don't know. And stop forcing that litmus test on reads, that in order for someone to think someone is bad they must know what team they are on, too.

In this case, I was talking about them.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:22 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:51 pmI don't understand why you would suspect Sloonei for giving you a surface read of civ for me, but not suspect me?

what I said about sloonei had basically nothing to do with you. my point was that Sloonei's order of operations for the process of elimination on the whole pika2.0 thing was potentially self-serving and shouldn't qualify as a reason to trust him.

him putting you high up on the list for reasons that he also applied to scotty, who was low on his list doesn't look good to me.

your being good or bad isn't particularly relevant to Sloonei's treatment of you and others in regards to the PoE. the only way Sloonei pulling you away from the fire looks bad for both you and him is if you're both evens, which seems unlikely and also isn't the point that I'm arguing.

I wasn't actually talking to you, sorry. I was really directing it at cbob mainly and kind of towards SVS as well.

I don't think if someone is buddying you that you are necessarily complicit. LC buddying the crap out of me, and he was my top civ read until he said the hosts freaking told him the name of Cerberus. My thoughts on Sloonei were not totally tied to you.My thoughts about you being a tad suspect started mainly like this:

5:01 Boomslang says "what about Bob?"

5:02 Daisy says: "what about Bob?".

As Quin says, yuck.

That felt just like, "out of the chat room into the thread" for real.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:51 pmI don't understand why you would suspect Sloonei for giving you a surface read of civ for me, but not suspect me?

what I said about sloonei had basically nothing to do with you. my point was that Sloonei's order of operations for the process of elimination on the whole pika2.0 thing was potentially self-serving and shouldn't qualify as a reason to trust him.

him putting you high up on the list for reasons that he also applied to scotty, who was low on his list doesn't look good to me.

your being good or bad isn't particularly relevant to Sloonei's treatment of you and others in regards to the PoE. the only way Sloonei pulling you away from the fire looks bad for both you and him is if you're both evens, which seems unlikely and also isn't the point that I'm arguing.

I wasn't actually talking to you, sorry. I was really directing it at cbob mainly and kind of towards SVS as well.

I don't think if someone is buddying you that you are necessarily complicit. LC buddying the crap out of me, and he was my top civ read until he said the hosts freaking told him the name of Cerberus. My thoughts on Sloonei were not totally tied to you.My thoughts about you being a tad suspect started mainly like this:

5:01 Boomslang says "what about Bob?"

5:02 Daisy says: "what about Bob?".

As Quin says, yuck.

I see that the Bob wagon did not pull out of the station.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:44 pm SVS's case against me, for instance, is a collection of questionable behavior from me. She's been astute to observe all of these things, it's nice to know someone is paying attention to me. But I fail to see how she puts all the pieces together to make me bad. I just look weird.

It isn't a "case" and I don't have to put the pieces together, I observed, I reported, people make up their own minds. I don't think that is necessary to catch a baddie, to knit all the pieces into a nice scarf and wrap it all together with a big bow. I'm a shitty case builder, but I am an excellent observer. I lay out the yarn and people can make their own scarves. You're shady, my friend. Supa shady.

I think you're bad, not weird. I am weird, I own that shit, I still think Chuck was bad, I have no problem with weird. But I think you have been doing a good job destroying one team, and falling back on "not engaged" when you have been VERY engaged.

I also think Boom is bad, and am beginning to worry about Daisy. If Kyle flips civ, civs need to take the thread back from the baddies.

It's like, do we even care if we look bad anymore?

I am rapidly disengaging myself, lol.

Gonna check the eggplant at [VOTE: Slonei] aubergine

I have thought he was bad ever since I started reading in Cerberus and literally 3 minutes after the lynch post, he had the lynch mechanic figured out.

Re: Cerberus Tribe - Day 1
#185 Post by Sloonei » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:51:56 pm
So we appear to be sharing a lynch with the other tribe and they wanted to lynch Quin. I declare this a bad decision on their part.

Then how he told the Cerberii really nothing that mattered about Pikachu, thus keeping the civvies uninformed when the baddies had all the knowledge. Then saying "One of these people are bad, but really half of them aren't bad because I say so, so one of these people must be lynched.

It's too much peripheral coincidental buildup.

linki, and here comes the Bob wagon. Good luck Bob.

I know what I meant. I am sorry i was not clear and you misunderstood what I was getting at.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:11 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:05 pm I wasn't comparing them; I was using Dom as an example.

Yes as an example you compared how Dom was behaving to how Sloonei was behaving. You literally said Dom is low activity but he isn't constantly apologizing for low activity. But Dom is playing his normal game. Why would he apologize for that? Sloonei on the other hand, while more engaged than the average player, he is not playing to the same standard as he normally would.

As far as cbob, I am considering it based on his sudden interest in what appears to be an easy bandwagon to jump on because it's the big topic at the moment. I'm ISOing now.

Yes I was using Dom as an example of someone who was actually not engaged.

So Daisy and Boom you both are interested in a C Bob lynch, it would appear?

I wasn't comparing them; I was using Dom as an example.

Imma real quick real LoRab in Cerberus. Like I said, I still think she has a horse in this race, and I think I understand her thought process, although I did not see enough of her this game to get much of a read.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:00 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm Why did scum sloonei campaign to save scotty and push to lynch kyle for multiple phases in a row, even when kyle wasn't on the poll?

why would that be civ exclusive behavior?

Because of what scotty just said. If I'm bad, I'm happy to lynch either of yu. I'd probably even prefer Scotty given his level of activity compared to yours in this game (no offense). I've suspected you over him for several days now and been very clear about this.

okay but that implies that a mafia Sloonei would come in and talk about how much they don't care who gets lynched. I don't believe that's true. it wouldn't be good strategy.

and that's exactly what I'm talking about actually. as soon as sprityo died and it was brought up that sprityo's killer could be narrowed down to a small circle of players, you were the one to quickly stratify that grouping of players, placing yourself above the middle, ensuring that at the very least Wilgy, Scotty, and I would be lynched before you would be. you've meanwhile been bringing up the idea that maybe cross tribe kills are actually possible after all, setting things up for the eventuality where all that's left in the PoE is you and Epignosis, at which point you'd have bought 4-5 cycles in which to either expand PoE or figure something else out.

that's not to say that the only reason why you'd treat the PoE in the way you've done would be for those reasons but I think saying that being specific about your lynches RE the sprityo murder crime is an indication of you being civ is false. I think you'd push the same sort of investigation regardless of whether you were the one who did the murder

I like this post. it kind of quantifies how I feel. It's like Sloonei came in and said, "OK, one of these people did it, but it wasn't me, it wasn't w and it wasn't X. So let's lynch Y and/or Z, cause it had to be one of them." The first time I read it, I was like WTF?

I feel better about Kyle than I do about Sloonei. I feel better about Scotty than I used to, but still not great. I still feel OK about Daisy and Epi, but would have liked to have heard more from them today. I am starting to question the whole strong civ reads on people without NKs. I do not feel actively bad about Bob or Dom, but standard "I always townread Dom" qualifier applies. I am conflicted re INH, but if he is bad I would be shocked if her were Strex. Quin, I trust him, but I don't really know why. He makes me feel like those old Birdhouse in Your Soul lyrics. I know they were supposed to be reassuring, but this refrain I always found unsettling~

I'm your only friend
I'm not your only friend
But I'm a little glowing friend
But really I'm not actually your friend
But I am


But really I'm not actually your friend, ugh.

I have read so much my eyes are about to start bleeding. Still not sure where I am going to vote, but it won't be Kyle.

P.S. I was previewing this and I realized I did not mention DDL for my second recap post in a row. I had some srs squidgy bad feels about DDL earlier in the game. I need to revisit him, becasue I can't recall anything he has said recently.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:01 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm Why did scum sloonei campaign to save scotty and push to lynch kyle for multiple phases in a row, even when kyle wasn't on the poll?

This is where "I'm not engaged" fails to engage me because you clearly are.

if i was fully engaged i'd have 500 posts right now

Well, you actually have 687. 313 in Cerberus, 75 in Pikachu and 287 here.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm Why did scum sloonei campaign to save scotty and push to lynch kyle for multiple phases in a row, even when kyle wasn't on the poll?

This is where "I'm not engaged" fails to engage me because you clearly are.

We all would prefer not to be lynched today, and you will still be here if you are, unlike many of us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:54 pm Do you suspect daisy, kyle?

Why do you think he suspects Daisy?

I personally do not (those 2 lives tho...) but earlier in the game you were pushing lynches against a specific group of people, but you took several off of the table, and cut off any discussion of them at the pass, with "person x is one of my strongest civ reads".

I would like to be able to trust that person too, and would like to understand why you feel this way.

This is you in Mountain Mafia, Operation Trust Fall.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:55 am I'll extend that question to everyone, about everyone. I think this could be a useful exercise: in a brief answer, what reason do you have to read each player remaining in this game as town?

Is this no longer something you find useful?