The Syndicate

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Sloonei wrote:birdwithteeth has not posted in this game yet. That is the entirety of the case against him. Scotty always votes a no-show or low poster on Day 1. Elohcin voted purely out of self-preservation.

But MacDougall had more votes than BWT when Eloh voted, yes?

I only skimmed this AM, I will read back to when I told Rico I was going to step back when I get home in about 1.5 hours.

If this is true then this looks bad for Eloh. A BWT wagon would be a lot less likely to take off than a Mac wagon since only one of them was actually around. It doesn't make sense for a self-preservation vote.

Other people pointed out later that it wasn't. Someone moved a vote iirc after she voted.

Well if you're gonna lynch a civvie that's a good one to lynch. Sorry Rico, glad your secrets dies with you

MovingPictures07 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:A tie is a no lynch, right? So we are one vote from that now.

Linki @MP, with all due respect, my opinion is still my opinion. You knowing him better does not make it invalid.

That's all well and good, but it just appeared to me like you didn't even read what I said, especially given I sort of emotionally opened myself up there, so it bugged me a bit. Sorry.

I tend/try to blow off emotional content. I found that based on the person making it, it either makes me trust them OR (and this is more likely) makes me think they are being manipulative. So it was not my intent to dismiss your opening up. It is just how I tend to read things.

A tie is a no lynch, right? So we are one vote from that now.

Linki @MP, with all due respect, my opinion is still my opinion. You knowing him better does not make it invalid.

a2thezebra wrote:

S~V~S wrote:My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

I brought this up earlier. JJJ and MP were the ones to point out that she would benefit from Epi being dead Night 1, and I think that's worth noting.

When I asked HER who she thought might kill Epi night one, Jay answered me this:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:He reads Elohcin herself particularly well, or so the reputation goes. He had her on his hypothetical baddie team.

So yeah.

I think my opinions all around will fallout more on when I finish reading (and tomorrow at work I will have time as my boss is going to a conference in Vegas) AND on how todays lynch falls out. I think his discussion to/about her may have been Epi trying to feel her out.

Linki, Alex you are not Rico. I am almost NEVER rational, lol. I am comparing Rico to Rico.

I see Sloonei voted Eloh day one. He goes on my reading list with Epi.

Linki, I did not play that. And the totality of my experience negates one game where he was aberrant to my mind. Did he win that?

My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

insertnamehere wrote:

S~V~S wrote:And looking at the poll, why is INH taking all of those votes? Can I get a Cliffs notes?

People think I'm parroting others opinions and avoiding having actual thoughts on the game.

Here's an actual thought and opinion: Those people are dum dums.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

S~V~S wrote:And looking at the poll, why is INH taking all of those votes? Can I get a Cliffs notes?

I'll try to summarize for Sloonei while he isn't here (I might not have a full grasp).

He felt INH was being disingenuous in his treatment of Ricochet and his interactions with motel room and Sloonei himself. LoRab seemed to agree, I don't quite remember exactly her reasoning though. Rico's vote is self-pres.

Thank you & Thank you.

Since based on Day 1 (i am not caught up enough to go any farther) I would be putting Sloonei in the orange if I were a rainbow lister, which I emphatically am NOT. So I won't be replacing my feelings about INH with Slooneis.

I am OK leaving my vote where it is. I feel bad about both Rico & Eloh tbh.

MovingPictures07 wrote:INH and zebra (and Mac for that matter as well), thanks for trying to elaborate further on your views regarding Rico and others, even though I know you've spoken on this stuff to some degree earlier too. It's helpful that you all seem committed to hunting and engaging with me and others on your perceptions of the thread. I think we have some really good baddie hunting going around this thread, even if there's a lot of disagreement going around. There's a lot to be proud of with respect to effort too.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:It feels like he decided to back away from his initial "FUCK MAC" stance only after others called him out on it.

I feel like we're reading different threads.

Yeah, same here. I guess I can see that perspective, but I don't even remotely agree with it, and I think Rico's done plenty that is easily compatible with a town-minded outlook, even if initially a very salty one.

But you can reconcile that irrational mindset he clung to on day one with civ Rico, who is not irrational, like, at all?

And looking at the poll, why is INH taking all of those votes? Can I get a Cliffs notes?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Who hasn't voted, anyone know?

Me for one. I got wrapped up in politics last night, and just got home from work, so I did not have the chance to read back on Epi as I would have liked.

For now I am going to dropmy vote on Eloh and try to read back for at least a bit. So it might change. But at this point I could not find where she addressed this:

S~V~S wrote:That is possible, but if they had killed him, he would be gone & Mac would be sitting on those votes. PLUS THE LULZ. That is just as valid a reason for NKing someone as irrational paranoia is for wanting to lynch them

I am not sure if I am tunnelling though, so I plan to go over Epis post with a fine tooth to see what got him killed. Does he read anyone particularly well? Eloh, who do you think may have wanted to kill Epi on Day One?

But seriously when you're evil killing for the lulz is the best. Unless your name is Metalmarsh & you're killing me mid afternoon. Then not so much

I am still up in the air about Rico & Sloonei.

Linki @INH,I kinda feel like that too. The people who I would expect to see the same things I see re Rico aren't seeing those things, so i am not sure if it is becasue I am out of practice, or becasue they are protecting him. So that could be why I am shying away from Rico vote. The people actively protecting him hard are making me second guess my gut.

That is possible, but if they had killed him, he would be gone & Mac would be sitting on those votes. PLUS THE LULZ. That is just as valid a reason for NKing someone as irrational paranoia is for wanting to lynch them

I am not sure if I am tunnelling though, so I plan to go over Epis post with a fine tooth to see what got him killed. Does he read anyone particularly well? Eloh, who do you think may have wanted to kill Epi on Day One?

But seriously when you're evil killing for the lulz is the best. Unless your name is Metalmarsh & you're killing me mid afternoon. Then not so much

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Spoiler: show

I know what he said. My point was that he implied that he thinks Mac is killing.

P.s. Rico~ I think ANY baddie team EXCEPT one that included you or Mac would have killed you for the lulz as well as the chance to frame Mac. To me the NK of someone other than you implies a team with either you or Mac on it.

Ricochet wrote:Did I say I am?

You've got nothing to fret about anymore, you can kill whomever you like now, nobody gives a damn.

What a hollow finger-waggy statement to make, right after the very post in which I clearly stated I would focus on proper leads.

So you DO think he's bad? Since you think he's killing people.

Epi was an odd choice for an NK with the end of the lynch going down as it did. Time to reread him.

a2thezebra wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I thought I would have more to offer but most of that territory that I caught up with is well-covered. The only update for me as far as reads go (besides Scotty of course) is Epignosis. I don't read him as a baddie yet but removing his vote from Scotty near the end bumped him down from my civ reads.

Why?

The answer is literally one post above the one you're quoting. You won't have to dig too deep.

I would be with you on this if Scotty flipped bad. I sat and kept refreshing waiting for the hammer to drop & lynch someone else after Epi switched his vote. But Scotty wasn't bad. And even with Epi switching his vote at the last minute, we're all smart folk, and would remember that Epi pushed the Scotty suspish fairly strongly. Scotty flipping civ made me feel better about Epi, not worse.

That's utterly bizarre to me, if Scotty flipped bad I wouldn't be nearly as suspicious of Epi if he had changed his vote last-minute.

Glad to hear that my break hasn't made me lose my edge. I would be worried if you did not think me utterly bizarre

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I thought I would have more to offer but most of that territory that I caught up with is well-covered. The only update for me as far as reads go (besides Scotty of course) is Epignosis. I don't read him as a baddie yet but removing his vote from Scotty near the end bumped him down from my civ reads.

Why?

The answer is literally one post above the one you're quoting. You won't have to dig too deep.

I would be with you on this if Scotty flipped bad. I sat and kept refreshing waiting for the hammer to drop & lynch someone else after Epi switched his vote. But Scotty wasn't bad. And even with Epi switching his vote at the last minute, we're all smart folk, and would remember that Epi pushed the Scotty suspish fairly strongly. Scotty flipping civ made me feel better about Epi, not worse.

This is what the light background looks like. When you quote the yellow against the beige, especially, it is almost impossible to see especially on phone or tablet. You have to quote it to see it since highlighting is harder on phone.

The darker brights are good, the lighter ones not so much.

Just an FYI anyone using light background can't read that yellow. And I use light background cause its work safe.

RIP Scotty.

You were on Scotty, right?

motel room wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Actually now that I think of it, this incident is rather similar to what happened in Red vs. Blue -- Scotty made a misstep on Day 1 by providing an inconsistent read relative to Epignosis (either his own votes or someone's votes for him, I can't recall exactly), and Epignosis (his partner) helped lynch him for it. I'm not saying this is necessarily a bus job, but rather that there's a recent precedent for a baddie Scotty to do something like this.

Expanding on this parallel:

The following post is from Red vs. Blue, not Mad Max:

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

You don't know why I have two votes. MM is one of those votes, and you say he was direct in his accusations. Can you explain why MM voted for me?

Scotty goofed in that game by putting two reads together that weren't very compatible (he liked Metalmarsh, but not the votes on Epignosis, one of which was Metalmarsh). In this game he seems to have done something similar: he doesn't like Elohcin or Rico as much, but thinks Epignosis is steering the thread the wrong direction for suspecting the same two people. Incompatible.

This is so early for Facts.

Facts have a time requirement?

Also Scotty, that, what JimmyNeil said.

Ricochet wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I just want to say that voting for MacDougall for whatever he did in a completely different game is lousy.

Myes, if only the implication of his actions wouldn't extend beyond one game.

S~V~S wrote:
Generically. You answered and at length, but you really did not say anything. You feel better about one person who had a discussion than the other, but you are not saying you suspect her, either. You have the third most posts in the thread, but are claiming "too busy" and seem to have plenty of defense time.

If you did not have to vote to defend, who would you vote for?

You put the blame on me for not writing something substantial in a post that started with "dunno" to your earlier inquiry on whether I have leads.

The posting has all to do with having to expand on my policy. I posted exactly as many times as said work and other online activities have permitted.

I am not voting to defend, my vote was among the first in the phase. I am perfectly fine with my vote.

So the only person you suspect is Mac? And you have said you don't actually suspect him, iirc.

I am going to vote for you now; a friend is coming over to watch Westworld. I will pop back before deadline to see if there were any new developments.

Voting *RICO*

Ricochet wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Ricochet wrote:sup

S~V~S wrote:Not even a ping?

Dunno. From my experience, mafia can punch a free lunch ticket on cray Rico; not all of them, but some could. Of my current voters, I feel better about the logic brought by INH in his questioning than with zebra's. Of the other players I'm tied (or nearly tied) with right now, not named MacDougall, I've been swamped with classes today and another online activity to follow up properly. BWT is having half a policy lynch of his own, right? Not going to flip a coin on what the inactive might prove, tbh. What's the summary on Elohcin and Scotty?

You know what? You sound just like bad me here. Identical. Had to look out the window to make sure I am not in Nauru.

How so and for what?

Generically. You answered and at length, but you really did not say anything. You feel better about one person who had a discussion than the other, but you are not saying you suspect her, either. You have the third most posts in the thread, but are claiming "too busy" and seem to have plenty of defense time.

If you did not have to vote to defend, who would you vote for?

Linki, yeah agreed re both points, w/Mac & BWT. For me it is between Rico for being irrational (IMO, against norm) or Scotty for fancy straw grasping.

Ricochet wrote:sup

S~V~S wrote:Not even a ping?

Dunno. From my experience, mafia can punch a free lunch ticket on cray Rico; not all of them, but some could. Of my current voters, I feel better about the logic brought by INH in his questioning than with zebra's. Of the other players I'm tied (or nearly tied) with right now, not named MacDougall, I've been swamped with classes today and another online activity to follow up properly. BWT is having half a policy lynch of his own, right? Not going to flip a coin on what the inactive might prove, tbh. What's the summary on Elohcin and Scotty?

You know what? You sound just like bad me here. Identical. Had to look out the window to make sure I am not in Nauru.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Don't get what's confusing about that, S~V~S. Self-preservation goal implies to prevent something for your own good. What better way to counter the odds of Mac being bad and getting even to Night 1 and try to make his team eliminate me, because I'm one of the players he doesn't like playing against?

And that Day Zero comment of mine was by far the jokey one, due to context of G-Man calling out to those who haven't even read their PMs. I would have started Day One the same way, regardless of any Day Zero chatter or banter.

Do you have any reason to actually think he is bad?

Both you & Mac posted after me, yet neither of you addressed the "throwing each other under a bus" aspect of my post, which tbh is the thing I most expected a reaction to. The main thing that is making me think I could be seriously wrong is that everyone else is sitting back and letting me run with this wacky theory.

What do you think of MP?

Linki, I am a very nice lady

No, I don't. That's not the point of a policy lynch. That's not the point of my policy lynch. That's not the point of self-preservation.

I don't know what to say about your bussing theory. It's certainly the third perspective that can be developed. It's the third perspective that can be developed about any hissing between players. The questions here would be: Do you think I'd do something as aggressive as this on Day One (or even Zero, if you will)? Do you think I'd gain something / expect to attain a goal by doing something as aggressive as this? Do you think I'd choose a policy lynch to craft a bus? Bussing usually require more skill, time and finesse than any of this, I'd argue.

Besides, my distress is virtually townesque. I don't know what Mac is. I don't know if he's mafia. I fear he could be. And I'd like to prevent the chance of him being mafia and getting to pull again his own declared policy of nightkilling me.

GTH reaction: What do people think of this bolded/underlined set of statements?

As someone who everyone always thinks is Mafia when I am not, I hate it. Plus "virtually" townesque? Doesn't virtually mean "almost"?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:S~V~S: if I recall correctly, when Elohcin placed her vote for BWT, BWT had 2 votes and Mac had 2 votes. So she essentially broke that tie which also included herself. I'm not sure I feel this is an indictment against her or a positive for her, but it's a detail that seems important to you. I don't think Mac had more votes than BWT.

If anyone remembers differently by all means speak up.

Thank You. The trouble with changeable votes (although I still love them for the most part). It was important to me becasue if she was voting to save herself, why not vote for the person with the most votes? But apparently at the time she did vote, she did do that. The votes in the poll did not reflect that at the time I looked at it.

And @Epi, OK, I kept reading and now see that you DID put money where mouth is.

Right now I am vacillating between Rico & Scotty. I have to reread Scotty again.

This is where I am in my catch up, breaking it up into a few posts. I have a lot of heebie jeebies from certain people, but nothing I can quantify, so not saying until I do have something to quantify. It's day one. Heebies to the left ofme, jeebies to the right of me.

Elohcin wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I know nothing of this show, so JJJ is confusing me a bit. I may vote him. It seems a little 'trying too hard' to come in here role play like that right off the bat. Like he is trying to win us over. What do y'all think? And this is not WIFOM talking...whatever that is. I never understood that term completely. but you all seem to use it for when you go after someone who has gone after you? I don't know.

I'll hold off on voting for now.

The "trying too hard" argument bothers me, but I'm not sure I find you suspicious for it. I just don't agree. Also, Neil Hartley has nothing to do with Mad Max.

Then I'm even more confused. Posting on my phone and have no clue how to so multiple quotes
..so posting this now and will most likely post again.

This sounds like normal Eloh to me. Default for Eloh "normal" being civ. If you still feel otherwise Epi, I would like to know why.

Also this:

Elohcin wrote:

This doesn't fee like bad Eloh to me. BUT BUT her vote... She voted BWT to self preserve but someone else already had more votes.

Sloonei wrote:I have not seen a committed and engaged MP in a long long time, so I don't know quite how to read him at this time, but a few of his posts did have me scratching my chin a little.

This one, for instance:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, and I'm tentatively feeling good about zebra as well. Her willingness to throw a vote on Scotty for a perceived moment seemed natural and not forced.

Not feeling those bad vibes from anyone just yet, but I'm sure they will come.

Polar opposite response to mine. I see no reason why zebra throwing minimal-effort poo at Scotty on Day is a town-tell.

Why is agreeing/disagreeing with you an indicator of alignment? I thought the same thing Zeebs did before I read Glorfindels post about his Mom. But if all the civvies agreed, there would be no point in playing this game. Why do you think someone is bad for not agreeing with you?

Glorfindel wrote:Thank you to everyone who wished my Mum a speedy recovery - we think she's on her way to one so for now, I'm good to go with this game. I sincerely appreciate the support you gave me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Glorfindel, how do you feel about MacDougall now that he has provided a number of posts?

Jay, I'm looking at it this way; a random lynching of any player has (by my calculations) a 21% chance of success. It is Day 1 and we have nothing concrete so far to suggest that anyone is necessarily more suspect than anyone else (in my opinion at least) - a fact borne out by the badly fragmented voting sheet we have right now. Mac is a very good player and we witnessed the damage of which he was capable as Mafia last game. I voted for him the Day phase before he NK'd me then and I'm voting for him again now. Certainly, I'm happy to (and will certainly continue to) consider other options before the end of this Day phase but for now, I'm satisfied to leave my vote where it is.

We're all good players. Lynching someone for being a good player is fairly crappy. So far he has not pinged me whatsoever. Although I don't think he is someone I read well if at all. If someone who DOES read him well gives me reason, I will take that more seriously.

Do you know his role, Glorfindel?

Ricochet wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Or more specifically, your willingness to acknowledge that that is indeed your fringe opinion and still act like it's in any way logical.

But it's how I feel. Paranoia isn't exactly a logical act.

@SVS: Can't say that I do atm. Who should I look into?

Not even a ping?

Linki @Neil, thank you, I will say Sloonei was one of my heebie jeebies, but so far I feel OK about you, and trust your judgment on Sloonei. But I still want to keep an eye on him.
Linki @Epi, you KNOW I hate vagueness & innuendo in Mafia. Just come out & say it if you have a reason to suspect him, or why bother? xoxoxox

Epignosis wrote:There's a possibility Scotty is bad.

There is a possibility anyone is bad.

MacDougall, based on this:

MacDougall wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I already said Sloonei was bad.

Why

He pinged me. I called him bad. He ignored it.

Would it confort you to know I have no idea what you're talking about?

Any kind of human interaction comforts me.

Insertnamehere is bad. Well played Ricochet.

I am thinking YOU think Rico is bad? Am I correct there?

@ JimmyNeil~ I know you read Sloonei well. What is your opinion of him so far this game?

Sloonei wrote:birdwithteeth has not posted in this game yet. That is the entirety of the case against him. Scotty always votes a no-show or low poster on Day 1. Elohcin voted purely out of self-preservation.

But MacDougall had more votes than BWT when Eloh voted, yes?

I only skimmed this AM, I will read back to when I told Rico I was going to step back when I get home in about 1.5 hours.

Ricochet wrote:So I can't have my policy lynch for once, got it. Glad it's been a non-issue in the past when players pull it for truly shallow/salty reasons, but when I do it out of principle and self-prez, stop the presses.

Damn if I play serious and, as far as recent stats have shown, get remove before seeing another daylight, damn if I don't.

I agree with Epig and INH thoughts that this matter is also Catch22ish, since it's something the mafia could weave, but hopefully the mafia will seek its own agenda after how D1 events shape up, in case Mac's not a part of it, or even if he is, they might choose not to follow his disdain-filled agenda. So projecting how the Mafia will behave is as loose as ever, at this point.

Yes, there's no high degree of helpfulness to this method. It's a declared policy lynch, which is never as substantiated as squuezing neurons to read into a player for mafia tells. And it's personal, which I also never denied.

One thing I can disagree with is that this crayons me bad in any way. If I were part of the mafia team, I'd have nothing to fear about getting killed... by the mafia. If I were mafia and lnew Mac is town, my retribution could easily take another form, without any mention in the thread obviously. As for the ideas of either framing or bussing Mac, they'd seem highly ineffectual as long-term plotting. And I'm a long-term kind of strategist.

So yeah, one could say this basically clears me as town. You're welcome, PoE makers.

The reason I am resistant to this idea from you is that it is irrational. I would not blink an eye to see other people behave irrationally but it is something I do not expect from you.

So do you have any actual suspicions? If you already posted them, I missed them, I just did a quick skim before running out the door.

I am going to sit back for now and let other people talk. I hope they do talk. But I may be reading into things. I may not. But I want to hear from others.

Ricochet wrote:Don't get what's confusing about that, S~V~S. Self-preservation goal implies to prevent something for your own good. What better way to counter the odds of Mac being bad and getting even to Night 1 and try to make his team eliminate me, because I'm one of the players he doesn't like playing against?

And that Day Zero comment of mine was by far the jokey one, due to context of G-Man calling out to those who haven't even read their PMs. I would have started Day One the same way, regardless of any Day Zero chatter or banter.

Do you have any reason to actually think he is bad?

Both you & Mac posted after me, yet neither of you addressed the "throwing each other under a bus" aspect of my post, which tbh is the thing I most expected a reaction to. The main thing that is making me think I could be seriously wrong is that everyone else is sitting back and letting me run with this wacky theory.

What do you think of MP?

Linki, I am a very nice lady

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
What's the profile exactly? I must have missed something here.

"I'm killing the people who I hate playing against.'

Oh, I see. Clearly I was missing some important context here. So the basis for your policy lynch vote is essentially self-preservation, am I right?

Yes.

On Day One with no indication of alignment? On Day Zero?

Ricochet wrote:Modkill MacDougall, send reminders to the others.

You know how to Mafia, Rico. I am not liking this, you are not a fear based player. Not sure if it makes you bad, but I am still not liking this. The fact that you were trying to get rid of him before the game even really got going is giving me the heebies. The first thing that comes to mind is you are teamies and you threw him under the bus in case he did not show. And when he did, you had to keep it going. As a matter of fact the first thing that came to my mind was that all the Mac votes were his teammates.

Wrench in that theory is that Mac has not said much that makes me think he is actually bad. So I could be reading into it, I am rusty.

So you are saying that he makes you so paranoid that you cannot deal with him being alive without factual knowledge that he is a civ?

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Well, you're here now, so I'm switching to BWT.

Oh so you're applying the Scotty philosophy this game.

We can lynch you D1 instead of Scotty, then.

Go for it.

I'll let the others. Mac is top priority afaic.

You're scared.

As long as Mac lives, yes.

Regardless of affiliation?

JJNeil, what is your opinion on policy lynching Mac?

a2thezebra wrote:

Scotty wrote:Suspicious of Glorf for voting in the poll but not commenting.

Glorfindel? More like Skaglorfindel.

To be fair,he said this before Glorfindel said is Mom was sick. I had the same thought, too, until I read Glorfindels post.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I view S~V~S as good.

Give yourself a hand, gentleman. You and Neil see eye to eye.

Epi & JaggedJimmyNeil, you are making me nervous saying this kind of thing, lol.

I don't love policy lynches, but I don't love low posters either. I would rather give the Host a cycle to see if he can get a replacement if it is known that Mac is not coming back.

Hope it all works out for your family, Glorfindel

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Epi, y u no vote for 24 yet?

I'm voting for winning money in NBA tonight.

OK, just saw you were in here and I know how you feel that 48 hour days are a waste, so was surprised when I started a post, went & got a drink, went to the bathroom, and you still had not voted.

Epi, y u no vote for 24 yet?

I am out of the habit of being here & checking in so the more time the better. But tbh, I always like longer days cause it's easier to immerse if I have more time due to my work hours.

So I voted 48.