The Syndicate

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:59 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:58 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:52 am GG

gj svs, you made this game easier

I got the protect the night after Belzy flipped. I couldn’t protect myself so I protected Thunal and was told my target succeeded <3

I figured they would expect me to be protected that night and go for someone else.

Great play this game! I thought they'd try to kill you.

Also, what were the trivia prizes?

It’s posted in the Discord portal. I saw PA (the artist formerly known as Zenon) blocked me night one. I role checked you that night and it failed. TBH if it had gone through I would have probably not bothered to go through my EOD day 1 poll watching timeline since I was in the middle of writing a vote post on YOU when I realized that that Belzy vote made no sense if you were w/w.

Since PA tried so hard to discredit that yeet, I got a kick out of it being her night action that ultimately led to it.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:52 am GG

gj svs, you made this game easier

I got the protect the night after Belzy flipped. I couldn’t protect myself so I protected Thunal and was told my target succeeded <3

I figured they would expect me to be protected that night and go for someone else.

Votes are changeable

Well I doubt I’d be changing my mind even if votes ARE locked, since I think everyone else is town, so I’ll just vote without waiting for the answer.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:39 pm Howdy folks, what I miss?

Sending in the night kill maybe?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:15 pm I'll wait to hear from SV.

OMG stop

I said yesterday I can’t find a reason to find Falcon town. I still can’t.

If other people do I hope to hear from them.

We have a hammer but votes aren’t locked are they? @Roxy

I think Sean, Epi, Ted, Thunal are def town.

Splints, Radishes and LC also prolly town.

For all her arguing with Wilgy that he’s not bad, PA as well.

I read and reread today and I have no reason to find Falcon town.

Good luck in the nights guys, and Wilgy glad you had fun. It sounds amazing!

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:06 am If Wilgy is a wolf I think he thinks his partner has a chance at winning. I don't think it would be someone like Epi or Falcon.

I'm going to have to start from scratch and reread everyone I think.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:28 pm None of these are hot takes. I'm just working my way through Belzy's posts and making a list. If anybody wants more detail, feel free to ask.

Not mafia:
Seanzie
S~V~S
ted
falcon

I'm with ya on Sean and ted; why do you clear Falcon? He's pretty much my whole POE at this point. I have no reason to think he's town tbh, but I DO have reason to think everyone aside from the noble Wilgy is town. But some of it is meta, or just gut feels, and I prefer more than that.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:54 am
It's an immersive art exhibit. Hard to describe, but they put real effort into taking you elsewhere as soon as you step into the building. I've been to the one in Denver and I think it was one of the coolest things I've seen. There's one in Vegas and Santa Fe as well I think. This one in Texas just opened and I think we get one in Houston too soon

That sounds really neat, I just looked, there isn't one like it here in NY, but apparently people are trying to work on similar experiences. My brother is in Houston and my sis-in-law is in Kerrville, if I ever make it down there I'll look into going.

Have fun!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:22 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:16 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:39 am I'm down to go over at this point. We're in a good position and if it prevents an uncertainty at endgame that's cool with me. I do not expect myself to be an informed player for at least this cycle anyhow.

Wilgy is town

This did give me pause for a bit but I’ve seen enough wolves do it that it doesn’t mean a lot. I think the evidence against Wilgy is stronger than for him.

Yeah for me it's NAI.

Most meta is really NAI for you. The only consistent thing I've seen is that one thing I mentioned. I got a unique perspective on your game when I played Meta and HDF against you at the same time. You played so differently, your bad game was so much more social (I've never been pocketed so firmly and comfortably lol), but then in another game I watched, didn't play, I don't recall which, you played a very social bad game.

A lot more of my thoughts here are based on associative Belzy reads, especially since I think she was comfortably settled in for the long haul, and expecting her shield to hold. Also your EOD votes the day of the Robyn/Thunal yeet.

If you're bad, not knowing who your partner is, I really don't want to see bad Wilgy in endgame. He's scary.

Linki x2, LMAO. And what's a Meow Wolf?

Poor Wilgy, hopefully the random generator lays off of you for a while.

Doh she killed Kate. Just voted Robyn. Had this confuzzled with the game that just ended.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:05 am On D1, Belzy most pushes Seanzie early, then Ted later. She also spends as much energy on Thunal, who she doesn't want chopped. Most every slot slot gets less attention, imo.

Still pondering her intentions with these players. Not every push a wolf makes is on a town, and not every player whose wagon they complain about is on a wolf partner.

For a baseline, her treatment of Robyn and Kate (known towns) is very light touch. Belzy doesn't seem to care about their slots all that much.

I'll read over her iso again later.

I had the impression Belzy and Thunal played at the same forum, Belzy said it in a post.

Perhaps she was afraid Thunal could read her better than most, and focused on her for that reason?

No idea regarding the others. And her treatment of Robyn/Kate wasn’t that light; she DID kill their slot after all.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:35 pm I thought Belzys entire roster of interactions with Wilgy was distancing.

She kept talking about him, she mentioned turning him twice, kept poking him but never made a serious effort, or any effort really, to get him yeeted.

I think Wilgy has the most partner equity for Belzy.

dunno, his silver tongue is getting to me

kinda think he isn’t bothered by dying

and belzy voted wilgy at EoD when i’ve expressed i could easily vote him, im not sure if kate had posted the list with wilgy wolf at that point in time either, but if so then that’s another

and he’s just someone that would have traction imo esp after robyn’s “AtE” (idk what to call it, prob wasn’t AtE) and thunal garnering villa reads

im not sure if i’d be voting my partner there when it’s prime time for a flashwagon, but idk if i have the order of events right

She voted him in the middle of the day. A few minutes after Thunal moved off of him, she did as well (with her stop on Thunal inbetween), over an hour before EOD, and she ended up on Robyn.

She made some cute posts like this about an hour after her Robyn vote, like my fave, this one:

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:52 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:46 pm *sips tea in [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Let me try communicating.

For some reason it is hard to create a real wagon on Wilg.

Well, you'd have to try to create one first. Then there was this one,

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:57 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:54 pm *cries in "aren't you already advocating for my yeet in c minor"*

Just calling a CFD on you.

Will you act like this on d2 also?

IMO, this person isn't interested in yeeting Wilgy, she's interested in getting people to think she suspects him.

This was her last mention of Wilgy, an hour before EOD. If she *really* wanted to flashwagon him, she had time.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:01 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:57 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:52 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:46 pm *sips tea in [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Let me try communicating.

For some reason it is hard to create a real wagon on Wilg.

It is. I'm pretty sure it's just going to be robyn/me wagons today but I think he very well could be mafia.

I am not sure if I think Wilg is wolf or if I want Wilg to be wolf, but I do know I want to lynch Wilg and is in my poe.

1 hr left. So robyn vs you seems most likely.

And this is where she starts trying to draw out Thunal. Sher didn't bring up Wilgy again.

She isn't remotely interested in flashwagoning Wilgy, she only brings it up when it isn't feasible. She never mentioned him again in the last hour.

*turboing not turning.

I thought Belzys entire roster of interactions with Wilgy was distancing.

She kept talking about him, she mentioned turning him twice, kept poking him but never made a serious effort, or any effort really, to get him yeeted.

I think Wilgy has the most partner equity for Belzy.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:05 am [VOTE: limecoke] aubergine

You haven’t mentioned LC before. Any particular reason for this vote?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:32 am where i stand, i have reasons to think everyone but

falcon / epi / wilgy / radishes

are villas

and if i were to take a yolo guess, falcon / epi are villagers but it's not too strong

Based on long standing familiarity and a total lack of trying not to look like a blustering curmudgeon, I think Epi is town. He's not locktown, but I do think he's not bad. I kinda feel the same about Radishes; his pushback, kinda like yours, against me yesterday felt sincere. It almost felt like he thought the whole thing was kinda distasteful (which it was, tbh. But it happened, so I talked about it~ but it's not the way any baddie wants to get caught) more so than that he was trying to save Belzy.

I am very willing to discuss Wilgy, and Falcon, too, though. I would like to come to some kind of consensus by end of day. I think having 4 or 5 vanity wagons at eod each game is a part of why town never wins, tbh.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:46 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:07 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:00 pm Kate
Svs
Sean
Splints

Lime coke
Zenon
Robyn
Ted
Radish
falcon

Belzy
Epi
Wilgy
Thunal

I'm not really buying this. Not only do I think it's odd you have me as your top scumread, I also don't feel like town you would have Belzy this low since imo she's done a lot to show she's town. Wilgy being that low also sticks out to me. Could you explain those three?

I'm quoting this with agenda coming out of all of my orifices. Thun is at the bottom of Kate's list.

I'm not sure you're not trying to claim info with this push, but I'm telling you I am 100% sure Thunal is town.

The whole point of Belzy being bad was that she tried to take part in a misyeet of Thunal (and btw the other person who went with your Thunal vote, Wilgy, voted Thunal like 30 seconds by the time stamp after Belzy unvoted her, hmm ). For whatever other reasons I may have, from my POV that is the primary one that townlocks her.

I am sure she did NOT wish to continue discussing the 3 second or 3 minute rule AGAIN today; I know I didn't.

Please please trust me on this.

I am going to [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine at this time. I think he's bad, and I don't want him in endgame, lol. He's fab.

I see he's in several lists; can we try to talk about the possibility of a bad Wilgy?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:50 pm But... for those who are not around, please vote Thunal.

No. Good God Sean. If today turns into half of my towncore trying to lynch the other half, imma be pissed.

This is absolutely the last thing I expected to find when I came in here this AM, lol.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:31 pm @Thunal33 I'm thinking about doing the same thing SVS did yesterday - more-or-less coop-t the thread. No question.

Not if this is the push you’re making you aren’t, lol.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:20 pm I do not believe Thunal is exasperated.

I do; she’s pretty much locktown after yesterday imo.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

I hope you're not seriously suspecting me.

This ^^

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:48 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:39 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:33 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: Mastah Rahdeesh ] aubergine

seems like the rational vote

really think the lunch must be in mr / wilgy / epi today, don’t see any reason to wander elsewhere

Do you really think my wolfy attempt to stop the Belzy chop was limited to 'it's probably t/t, actually maybe not, I dunno' ?

im not sure what you were trying to do. i kinda think you just didn’t know how to navigate it.

i think it was more of an “act like i don’t have tmi” thing and trying to test whether there were odds at saving belzy

Okay. Or it could just be the simple solution.

I'm not sure why being on the fence about an unusual case makes you bad? I mean, Ted pushed back, too. You seemed pretty sincere to me.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:20 pm I took screenshots yesterday, but it was so many I'll just transpose it. Only the final poll.

Belzy (6) Seanzie, Thunal33, S~V~S, fingersplints, Lime Coke, tedxtr

Epignosis (1) falcon45a

Lime Coke (2) Master Radishes, DrWilgy

Master Radishes (2) Epignosis, Zenon

S~V~S (1) Belzy

Fixed to add ted

I took screenshots yesterday, but it was so many I'll just transpose it. Only the final poll.

Belzy (6) Seanzie, Thunal33, S~V~S, fingersplints, Lime Coke

Epignosis (1) falcon45a

Lime Coke (2) Master Radishes, DrWilgy

Master Radishes (2) Epignosis, Zenon

S~V~S (1) Belzy

Just weird coincidence, i was so worried about a turbo on Wilgy.

Not a huge turbo fan, lol.

Well, I plan on reading Wilgy today, and seeing where the road takes us.

I knew my case was weird, which is why I kinda strongarmed the thread a bit, I won't be doing that today, lol.

Hooray for no death!

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: Mastah Rahdeesh ] aubergine

seems like the rational vote

really think the lunch must be in mr / wilgy / epi today, don’t see any reason to wander elsewhere

Why Epi? Did I miss the case on him?

@DrWilgy

It’s my personal tell for you. I don’t mind sharing my tells because it makes for a better game, having a tricksier opponent.

When someone voted for you, and you’re town, you make a rebuking (this is the best way I can describe it) post to them about the vote on you. In Hot Dog Fingers, all you were saying was “yes” (or maybe ‘no’?) and you posted that word and an emoji to me, and I got the reproachfulness.

It’s a hard thing to quantify, but when I tell someone I think you’re town, it’s often because I’ve seen you reply to someone this way. I don’t ever recall seeing you do it when bad, but I might have just missed it.

So it stuck out to me that you didn’t react this way to not just one but two votes on you. It’s a meta tell, not a thing to build cases on. Just a thing that makes me pay extra attention.

All of my worldview is based on this one thing right now.

It’s a tunnel. I think it’s a valid tunnel, but it’s still a tunnel.

Regardless, I think you’re town, Dplints, Zenon, Thunal, Epi probably Radishes and LC are also.

Otherwise not sure based on Belzys flip.

Shoot me. If she flips town I fucking suck.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:03 am i think she’s wolfy for her reaction, not the vote switching

kinda find it hard for someone to think they could buy themselves out of a lunch after spending at least 10 posts defending them and sneak voting them to get them across

I don’t understand how you view that as a wolf ploy lol

I know you disagree, Ted.

It was the only unposted vote she made the whole game.

She started making the posts defendinG Thunal about 15 minutes after she moved her vote to Robyn.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:44 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:38 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:32 am Come on. Please trust me. She's bad. This is disheartening (I hate to sound ATE, but it is). I'm not understanding why this is so hard for everyone. I'm really not.

I think most people believe you. That doesn't necessarily mean Belzy is scum, though. And spending 48h waiting for Belzy to die doesn't sound productive.

There's nothing wrong with other people wanting to poke around in other directions in the mean time.

To continue, like, I was actually kind of getting into the game on D1, but my motivation is gone for D2 here. Partially that's a me thing (other things came up and took my attention) but also it's because everything now revolves around a she-said-she-said dichotomy I'm not involved in, so like...I may as well just wait till the flip so we can move on one way or another, y'know?

I feel like it's fairly clear we're going to flip Belzy today. So I'm not going to bother wasting more time thinking about whether it's indignant townie or cornered baddie. I'm mostly mulling over a few other slots that haven't gotten as much attention, and letting thoughts percolate in my brain space. I have half-formed thoughts on the gamestate we're in and what it means, but since Belzy has become the thread's centre of gravity none of it is worth pursuing until we have her alignment to anchor our worldview.

It's not as clear to me, with votes peeling off and lots of small wagons.

I'm sorry that happened, it wasn't my intention. I figured I'd say what happened, the mob would rabble rabble, and then we'd talk about other thoughts. I wasn't trying to turn it into this.

I just want it over, too, so i can get NKed tonight and move on

Assuming she is bad, who do you think could be partnered with her, or not?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:38 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:32 am Come on. Please trust me. She's bad. This is disheartening (I hate to sound ATE, but it is). I'm not understanding why this is so hard for everyone. I'm really not.

I think most people believe you. That doesn't necessarily mean Belzy is scum, though. And spending 48h waiting for Belzy to die doesn't sound productive.

There's nothing wrong with other people wanting to poke around in other directions in the mean time.

I know, I'm just so paranoid of last minute vote shenanigans and manipulations throughout the day, that I'd fell a lot better with a bigger than one vote margin on Belzy.

Of course we talk about other things, but all these moving votes are stressing me out, I'll probably just repost that last post ^^ a few times over the course of today and just stay out of here, tbh.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:24 pm I'd like to propose a wolf MR world.

Discuss.

Id like to discuss a wolf Belzy world.

I should have just lied and claimed mech; it's the only way to get taken seriously around here. I'm that sure she's bad.

Unless y'all think I'm making it up, I saw what I saw. I wasn't lying, it was there *at least 2-3 minutes* (possibly more; but I can't swear to that, so I won't). If I'm gonna make up a bullshit case, it's not on Belzy who I don't know and, based on her day one reads, wouldn't view as a threat if I was bad.

There was a valid wolfsided reason for considering an attempt to yeet Thunal rather than Robyn, who had asked for a replacement. No one around here EVER holds anyone accountable for misyeets, so she could have talked her way out of it, especially with a 'shield' that refuses to even consider that she could be bad.

We are forgetting that Robyn and Thunal were tied after Thunal moved her vote to Wilgy.

When she voted for Robyn again, 6 minutes later Belzy moved to Robyn. LESS THAN A MINUTE LATER, Wilgy tied it up again by voting for Thunal, *tying it up again*.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:46 pm *sips tea in [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

As an aside, after ^^ Belzy makes a "any reason why" remark at Wilgy, who she has been shading all game (which I figured out from rereading her at 4 effing 30 this AM cause I couldn't sleep thinking about this game lolol), without making any real effort to do anything about him. She even made a cute little remark about how hard it is to get a Wilgy vote going.


Until Sean moved to Robyn, 3 minutes before the poll ended, and Wilgy moved to Robyn right after Sean Like 2 minutes.

I could consider a Wilgy vote, but it would be for associative reasons, and meta reads (like I think his responses to Belzys shade were not what i would expect of town Wilgy, like I said, it's his town tell for me), but it would be an associative read based on Belzy being bad. I would rather yeet Belzy first. Yeeting someone becasue I think they're the partner of someone else who I think is bad would be putting the cart before the horse.

~THEN~

When I accuse Belzy of this, with all due respect, she absolutely loses it. Not in an indignant how dare you way, either. I'm trying to write a post answering her question by explaining my point using quotes, which is what you do when someone asks you "why", and everytime I search the thread there are 2-3 more pings with "@SVS" 6 times per post.

Then she obvs rage quits.

Come on. Please trust me. She's bad. This is disheartening (I hate to sound ATE, but it is). I'm not understanding why this is so hard for everyone. I'm really not.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:03 pm Ehh... [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I wasn’t trying to murder the thread

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:25 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:22 pm Their explanation and genuine frustration over a push that is pretty overall weak

i don't disagree here. i think that there is a lack of motivation / agenda for why they'd do it as a wolf

like if i were a wolf and making a lot of posts on why thunal was a villager / nothing about people's cases on them was good, and my great wolf plan would be to sneak a vote in to get her killed when it'll be obvious from the poll...

that doesn't really sound like a wolf plan to me

If you’re a wolf youd rather yeet the active player than the inactive one who asked to be replaced. if they’re tied.

Then you spend the next day being all civvie like arguing to save the slot in case they’re civ, maintain balance yada yada. Given the tie we had wolves want to lynch the active player every time.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:16 pm Nobody listens

They talk past each other they refuse to work together they push their pet reads without cooperation

I agree with you 100% here.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:37 pm A top wagon all day that's never been close and has 6 votes right now

This will surely flip wolf

Also what you’re reading as indignant townie I’m reading as cornered baddie.

Town won’t call me a liar over that. That’s extreme.

#2 I think. But it wasn’t like it seemed that important at the time, you know? Or I would have screenshot it.

It was only 5 minutes or so between Thunal voting Robyn and Belzy voting Robyn.

After Thunal changed her vote, I am not sure if I saw Belzys vote moved in the same click, or the next one. But I know I refreshed at least one more time between seeing it initially, because I noticed it was still there, then next click she had voted for and posted the vote for Robyn.

So it was there maybe 2-3 minutes. If it was a misvote, I’m Not sure who else she was voting to accidentally click thunal.

I felt pretty sure about it, but seeing her reaction this AM I’m as sure as I could be without info and nothing can change my mind.

Read yesterdays thread from fiveish to EOD and tell me you don’t see at least a little if what I saw, extra vote aside.

I don’t buy that it was a mispark.

I came in here to vote Thunal after the night post where Kate died, but while I was writing out the timeline, the w/w Belzy Thunal theory didn’t make sense with that vote on Thunal.

Especially since, as Thunal said, who else was she going to vote for that she misparked on Thunsl?

@Seanzie definitely once, possibly twice. I didn’t notice and movement any other time. I don’t know for 100% sure. I wasn’t refreshing like clockwork, I know I saw it once after the initial time, but I won’t swear it never happened again.

I saw what I saw and her reaction cemented it for me.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:44 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:24 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am So let’s recap. Belzy thinks I’m mafia for “reasons” and I killed Kate, a friend of mine, who had me as top tier town, because……..?

Or I killed my best friend night one ( who always gets killed night 1) for shits and giggles.

Splints I saw that vote move; reread the interaction EOD between Thunal and Belzy, it feels so fake and staged. It’s not something Thinal would have done.

No, there is a clear explanation for why wolf!SVS would kill Kate - to lock in Kate's readslist.

is that what happened? I'm not sure, but I am definitely considering it as a possibility, and pretending that there isn't a reasonable explanation for a wolf!SVS world feels disingenuous.

She gets killed night one all the time recently. I don’t know the last time she finished a game. I know it’s just wifom, but I don’t want to be the one to ruin her game yet again.

Of course it’s s possibility. But what do I gain from putting myself out there like this to frame Belzy this aggressively, lol? Except yeeting a civ if I am bad? If Belzy was to flip town, I’m toast. And on this forum we always yeet town anyhow with minimum baddie effort because no one is willing to trust anyone else, or make a leap of faith that anyone else could be right without mech. It’s kinda ridiculous tbh. But I’m a good baddie I don’t have to do this to yeet town.

I know you seem to really want me to be bad. And it’s cool. If I’m wrong here, and Belzys town I won’t fight an elim. Because I’m that sure I’m not wrong.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:05 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am Kinda agree with everything Belzy is saying lol

As I said last night, I would expect nothing less.

I was right on robyn.

Perhaps you should listen to me.

Doesn’t make you right on this. We’re in that everything I say, you disagree with loop we always get in.

You do you, Zenon. I expect you to disagree with me. It’s NAI at this point.

Also that right there is the post where Belzy said I LIED about seeing her vote. Now she's saying it was a 3 second misvote. Okay.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:43 am SVS is* withholding

SVS got out of bed less than an hour before you posted this, and posted FROM bed. Take a deep breath.

40 minutes before you posted this "SVS is witholding" post this, I said I was in bed, and had to walk my dog. Then I wanted to pull quotes with time stamps to give you a complete and accurate answer.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:03 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:26 pm I don't actually think SVS lied that Belzy sniped me, but I want to make sure. Did anyone else see Belzy vote me in the poll?

It is a lie tho. You were there eod1. And why don't talk with me about it?

It is absolutely 100% not a lie.

Like I said last night, I swear it on my dog, which is ultra srs for me.

You can absolutely misconstrue anything else I said from here till Christmas, I saw what I saw.

Lol I’m still in bed, gotta get up walk dog, bbl.

In any case, I need to go get ready for work. Will try to be in here as much as possible, but it's the end of month week, not sure how possible that is.

Hasta la vista happy Mafia people.