The Syndicate

Tee hee.

I just signed up for your game at JTM, so I hope you aren't a vengeful host

LAs Twilight game. You made a list of roles and discussed them as you do, and I was like (with my own role, lol) "Hey, you shouldn't blow that role off. It's really powerful". Lord was I weak

I remember that one specifically becasue it was the Coxie game, the one where the civvies kept her alive (she was my teammate) so the kill would not pass.

It was my fifth or sixth, maybe. And I got lynched Day One, lynch led by Long Con

I was so horrible, lol.

I think out of thread info should be as limited as possible. I used to HATE it back in the day when we used Chatango when people used to check to see who was online, etc. Although some things are unavoidable, like a person announcing in another thread, or forum, what their affiliation was. It is hard to ignore that. But in a perfect world, no out of thread info would be fair.

I subbed in to a game as a pretty much outed baddie once, and I managed to work with it and survived to the end, which was not easy, although I did not win (the Botnet, a recruiting group, won). That was the Hey Man game

Good times!

I felt so bad when you made your vote post, Ninja, if it is any consolation. All day long i was sure i was gonna die, and then you voted for Daisy and I felt really crappy, lol, although I was also like *YES!!*

Linki~ those questions were so hard, i thought I would be a fail, so I did not submit since i would have had to Google to do so, and that would be not cool imo.

I had 2 powers; a role check/power steal (hee hee) and a protect. Once the rest of the team was dead, I protected myself every other night. I was going on the wrong night due to just the way it worked out before Bass died, but LC suggested I skip a few nights and reset the protect schedule so i would be protected when the other team killed like right before they tried to kill me.

Yeah, he just survived to the end. I was bad.

Well played of you Golden to let her decide. I was pretty much on pins & needles there.

Me too

I am fine with it.

If the two of you have a consensus, then let her vote with you

Daisy isn't coming back, and i am here suffering lol.

Well, I would expect you to vote for the person you actually think is bad as opposed to voting to avoid a tie. Especially with your role. Then again, good or bad isn't that important I guess, by the same lights. I guess I wanted to win with you because I still love my original role, and wish I had not thrown it away.

So whatever you do works for me. I have said all I have to say. I think Daisy is bad, and Ninjas analysis is faulty since she left important things out of it.

Ninja totally left J & H out of her analysis. Who do you think was that role? When do you think they died?

I am not bad. Like not at all. I am surprised to see you riding someone elses coattails.

She didn't vote yet

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:It's also interesting that you mention a role checker. One of the roles I had in mind for B & C was a power stealer, who would learn a role in the process. Now I really have to go get ready for work, lol.
Nah, its not a role thing. The reason I suspect it has to do with the trivia contest.

I think you're selling yourself short, but OK.

Well, I am going to vote for Daisy. As she says,process of elimination. Plus, as I said, some type of robbery would be a logical power for B & C. So a role check with a power use would be a good guess. Didn't we have two kills and or attempts one day? Or two silences? Although with the amount of silence in this game in general it would be hard to say. But if you think she checked you

It's also interesting that you mention a role checker. One of the roles I had in mind for B & C was a power stealer, who would learn a role in the process. Now I really have to go get ready for work, lol.

In any case I did not kill anyone, because I can't kill anyone

I think people try to kill you based on what you say, not who you are when you say it.

And unless we know has/when/if Jekyll died (Ninja is leaving that role out of her analysis) we don't know who overlapped with whom. Plus wasn't there a fail kill that night?

I subbed in the same time as JJJ. You maybe thought I was later because I missed a vote an didn't post for almost 2 game days. I was not ready to come off break so early I think. Then I felt like a jerk and came back and got involved. I didn't even come onsite in that time.

I am not Wildhorn. Black Rock continuing to jump on THs bacon pretty hard after she was recruited; that pretty much puts that to paid IMO. BR is like me that way. She's not much of as busser. And I don't believe Golden's role to be corruptible. I went back and looked, Golden. Yeah.

I have no idea what happened night 4 but I can guarantee you it had nothing to do with TH.

That's awesome!!

To be blunt, I think DFs teammate is likely an active. It is my experience with Dom that he would be unlikely to say someone is doing the kill who is not sending in the PM, especially when it is a team kill. I find it unlikely that he would allow an active player to always say the inactive is the killer. Having played almost every game he ever hosted all the way back to LP, this is what I think.

So I am thinking we have an active Weber member left, as well as an active Wildhorn. I am hoping you all are right and Splints is one of them, but if she isn't, we are trusting the wrong person.

Well, why split it up? I think this lynch will put it all into focus for me~ if she isn't bad, there will be some splainin to do for some people, I think.

Sorry Splints if you are not bad, but I don't see the point of a tangent vote at this stage.

That's a good point; Phantom is killing, so they are paying attention. Dom does not post story for flavor. If the post says "Phantom killed Player X" then Phantom killed player X, not Cats or whatever other member of Team Weber.

Gotta get ready to go to work, blurgh.

I have to reread the case on Splints; she has been fairly quiet since I subbed back in.

So everyone except me, MM & Splints are silenced?

has someone kept track of who was silenced, and who they believe to be doing the silencing?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:@Dom. Will we be told when a baddie team is eliminated?
Yes. You will.
That is good to know. Thanks!

That is really good to know.

That silencer sure picks convenient targets, eh? Or maybe everyone is pretending to be silenced.

Sorry MM, I did not read back that far yet. Busy weekend.

Dom, will we be told if a baddie team is eliminated? Not sure if this has been asked yet.

And Golden, I thought DF would not try to kill me as it would be too obvious, and that is not his style. It IS your style, which is why I thought you more likely to have been the killer than DF.

Doh I guess Faraday did try to kill me Lol.

I am trusting you Golden.

And I respect Daisys opinion, but she and I have very different approaches, sensibilities and mindsets.

I don't think Faraday tried to kill me. Who do you think did, Golden?

Well none of them are in here, apparently.

Not only do I not look for role hints; I tend to ignore them if i do see them. Too easy to misinterpret, and to fake. I wont go so far as to say i think role hints are the Devil, but i do think they are just a wee tad demonic. Just a tad.

I hope everyone weighs in tonight.

Hrm, not changeable votes and a few hours to go. I can hold off on that and see how the cookie crumbles.

I just don't see DF trying to kill me, though. There would be no profit in it for him. He did not even try to use it as a hook.

I think I am going to vote for Golden, becasue I DO see him killing me.

What do you mean, "Non in thread stuff"?

I was kind of hoping for MMs opinion. But thanks for yours, everyone seems to trust Golden except me, i guess.

Well, I think they must. Either that, or you tried to kill me, lol. I doubt that that is what you are trying to say.

What do you think of Golden? I waffle on him.

DFaraday wrote:
Golden wrote:And I have a renewed feeling that DF is the most likely option.
Because...?

Your whole case seems to hinge on the theory that the Phantom is sending in every kill, but that hasn't been proven at all. Some hosts just use one character to represent a team in the night posts (I've used that approach), and some hosts let group PMs be sent in by one player. All we know is that Webber's team has had at least one active player at any given time, but I don't see the proof that whoever the Phantom is has been continuously active. I'm not about to just give up and die based on one unfounded theory.

Dom: Are Night Posts written to reflect the roles performing the actions, or just for flavor?

SVS: Why do you feel good about MM?

The NK attempt on me

gave me some perspective.

I won't say I feel *good* about him, but I do feel less bad then I did. Knowing the game he plays, I really doubt he would have tried to kill me, and I also think he would make an awesome patsy. If he is a civ, NKing me would be a two birds/one stone kind of thing, IMO. That's why I want to see who MM has discussed, who might feel threatened by him.

I have been thinking about this while I walked the dog. I seriously doubt MM did this, so i am inclined to back off of him. I think it more likely to be a frame job.

I am going to spend some of this day reading MM, and his suspicions. Perhaps we can pinpoint who may have wanted to set him up.

Wow. Who would try to drop a chandelier on my head?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@ SVS, Dom's lynch message seemed to give us a pretty strong hint about what metalmarsh's role is.
I don't see a win condition listed for that role though.
Fair point, but we can at least assess that he's probably not on either of the mafia teams.
Actually, I'm not the role you're thinking of. I didn't even realize Andrew Lippa was a role in this game.

I just saw this. I was gonna say~ Dom is the LAST LAST LAST host I would ever expect to give hints in a host post. Except maybe me.

Sloonei wrote:@ SVS, Dom's lynch message seemed to give us a pretty strong hint about what metalmarsh's role is.

Dom gave a hint in a post?

Lol.

Well, it isn't like neither of us had talked about it before. Of the people with votes, he looked best (worst, lol) to me

Hrm. So MM knew he was gonna live; I don't see him self voting otherwise. I don't see anything in the baddie musicals to account for that. Although power speculation based on musical knowledge/role snippets is fairly pointless since I don't really see the connection between my own role and the Musical my role is named after.

And Daisy, since I started taking a more active interest, almost all of my posts have been, "So, Golden/Ninja, what do you think of MM & each other". I think it is fairly obvious that these three are persons of interest for me. There's a whole lot of buddying & trusting going on, and of the three people that have been highest on my radar, MM was the one I felt least good about. I said this over a week ago, on the 20th:

S~V~S wrote:When I voted for Ninja during the last day, Golden said her role was "obvious". The role that came with that implication seems to have made a very heavy handed hint. But Ninja HATES hints and hinting etc. She generally takes a stand against that kind of thing. So not sure she would have DONE it, even in a more veiled way, when she does not like to even talk about it.

I am sorry i have been a fail; I thought I could handle this, but I should have stayed on break a few more weeks. Every time I think of coming here & debating & discussing, things I generally love, I am like "meh".

Anyhow, not long after Golden said that, MM was like, "Well, since one of my major suspects is off the table, I need to reconsider" or something to that effect. Golden makes one post, and now she's off the table? Was she ever REALLY even on your table, MM? I am very pleased Sloonei came back and resurrected (heh) this topic. I am curious about what Epi thinks about all of this considering his earlier Golden & Ninja sitting in a tree theory, and he quite possibly has weighed in on that, but I will not have time to read back on all that I have miissed the past several days. My apologies to all, I will try better. And my apologies especially to Ninja, I am voting for her again.

Faraday may be bad, I can never tell. I suspected him at one point, but that was wrapped in with my ninja suspish. But if he flips civ, we need some reevaluation.

That the person she thought was bad at least enough to vote for him was taking votes? Taking votes from people who had mentioned him before they voted?

Daisy, my thoughts on MM are based on his reactions to Ninja for the most part. He has an opportunistic feel to me.

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