The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:20 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:16 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:09 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:41 am Here's a baddie Tony in another game if anyone cares.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/search.ph ... id=5080122

For reference, his teammates where TheBoyBlunder (TBB), DarqFeonix (and the briefly CBob, who was good earlier) and hydramate Rokk Krinn.

This was the game we kept Jack around because he was so good at lynching town

And you guys have the Welcome to Night Vale somewhere on your website. I was Mafia there too.

Jokes on you. I got you killed twice.

I misdirected you into misdirecting a kill onto us. And then we lost a lynch coin toss. And then you misdirected me into a PGO or something.

The first one was a total accident. I was aiming the lightning rod at your teammate, who misdirected me into you, who caused me to misdirect your other scummate kill into you.

The second one was me misdirecting you into Link, who nexused your kill into yourself, which was not even a little bit an accident.

For every absolutely stupid lynch I lead, I pulled some awesomesauce ring slinging and saved the day. Lamplighter is the best hero ever and even if I totally screw up this and every other game I play in, nothing can ever take that beautiful Hybridity win away from him.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:16 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:09 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:41 am Here's a baddie Tony in another game if anyone cares.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/search.ph ... id=5080122

For reference, his teammates where TheBoyBlunder (TBB), DarqFeonix (and the briefly CBob, who was good earlier) and hydramate Rokk Krinn.

This was the game we kept Jack around because he was so good at lynching town

And you guys have the Welcome to Night Vale somewhere on your website. I was Mafia there too.

Jokes on you. I got you killed twice.

I misdirected you into misdirecting a kill onto us. And then we lost a lynch coin toss. And then you misdirected me into a PGO or something.

The first one was a total accident. I was aiming the lightning rod at your teammate, who misdirected me into you, who caused me to misdirect your other scummate kill into you.

The second one was me misdirecting you into Link, who nexused your kill into yourself, which was not even a little bit an accident.

Literally your argument is weak because you forgot to make it, not because of some circular blahdyblah.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am is it possible they're both bad? Jackofhearts2005

I don't see any reason to think they couldn't be w/w but I also don't see any obvious links.

If I had to pick out the mafia right now ftw, I'd probably put them both on it. Only one gets lynched today and I badly want to avoid a mislynch.

I don’t like how you keep presenting this as a dichotomy when there are literally fourteen others who could be lynched. It feels like a mid game domineering mafia Jack move.

So put forth a case, bro.

You still haven't even made a Nutella one.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:51 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am is it possible they're both bad? Jackofhearts2005

I don't see any reason to think they couldn't be w/w but I also don't see any obvious links.

If I had to pick out the mafia right now ftw, I'd probably put them both on it. Only one gets lynched today and I badly want to avoid a mislynch.

see the problem is the mafia is an uncracked shell rn. Jay has been brazen as hell with his gameplay which means he feels secure, he and Simon were removed from the poll adding an extra layer of safety.

Would he be acting so brazen if two of his teammates were already in the cross-hairs like Wilgy and Tony? Am I thinking about this too hard?

Tony suspicion didn't start until today, really. Also, as Jsy pointed out, WIFOM in Mountains? I did a poor job of locating Jimmy's teammates.

And don't even get me started on my 5 null reads on Made, Eloh, Dave, Nova and Dom. There could be 1-3 mafia there and its really difficult to know.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:50 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:41 am Here's a baddie Tony in another game if anyone cares.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/search.ph ... id=5080122

For reference, his teammates where TheBoyBlunder (TBB), DarqFeonix (and the briefly CBob, who was good earlier) and hydramate Rokk Krinn.

This was the game we kept Jack around because he was so good at lynching town

And you guys have the Welcome to Night Vale somewhere on your website. I was Mafia there too.

Jokes on you. I got you killed twice.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am is it possible they're both bad? Jackofhearts2005

I don't see any reason to think they couldn't be w/w but I also don't see any obvious links.

If I had to pick out the mafia right now ftw, I'd probably put them both on it. Only one gets lynched today and I badly want to avoid a mislynch.

Here's a baddie Tony in another game if anyone cares.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/search.ph ... id=5080122

For reference, his teammates where TheBoyBlunder (TBB), DarqFeonix (and the briefly CBob, who was good earlier) and hydramate Rokk Krinn.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:17 pm @lapluie @Glorfindel @Marmot @Long Con @nutella @Quin @Kylemii

You are the players I am relatively sure are not mafia. I strongly think we should lynch Tony or Wilgy today.

Please advise.

More likely to vote Tony over Wilgy. Wanna throw me a case on each? I've got no read on Tony and reading civ on Wilgy.

Tony has stated/implied/stated he believes multiple things that it would hurt the townies to believe:
1) Lynching Simon is a bad idea even if he is mafia
2) Simon is likely town
3) Dunya stopped a kill by blocking Nutella
4) Nutella's ISO is so obviously bad that it is self evident and no posts are needed to show this
5) The town has around 3 mislynch chances

Countercase (ie WIFOM)
1) Voted Glor on Day 2. Mafia wouldn't do this right?
2) Said he didn't want to lynch Simon, then Simon leaves the lynch poll, presumably due to mafia night action. Mafia wouldn't do this, right?



Wilgy is pointedly not trying to help the town.
1) Did no hunting on Day 1, instead stating Sloonei, Dunya are bad over and over.
2) Did no hunting on Day 2 and ignored accusations against him. Responded to Kyle's posts as if Kyle was playing a Pokémon role playing game instead of asking for his help in this game.
3) Did nothing on Day 3 except drop a bad vote on Dunya or Speedchuck (I forget which). Didn't state why he was voting.
4) Today, comes in with a ridiculous reason to vote me and weighs in on none of the highly interesting events of the last two phases.

This is in contrast to Pirates Wilgy, who was supertown without even using words or even average Wilgy who at least messes around and tries to find baddies.

Countercase:
Wilgy acted similar to this in Streetfighter. I thought he was a baddie with lynch protection who was trying to draw attention to himself by being extra suspicious. That's how bad he looked in that game. It's possible Wilgy is doing here what he was doing there, whatever the hell that is.

It means you're either gonna post more later or you're softclaiming info gatherer.

So I'm waiting or I don't believe you.

[mention]lapluie[/mention] [mention]Glorfindel[/mention] [mention]Marmot[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]nutella[/mention] [mention]Quin[/mention] [mention]Kylemii[/mention]

You are the players I am relatively sure are not mafia. I strongly think we should lynch Tony or Wilgy today.

Please advise.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:29 pm This Nutella read comes to you in two parts. The first part is me just looking for things I don't like in Nutella.



AND I just decided that that doesn't matter. Because you guys can all look through the ISO and see how scummy it is. I don't have more insight into Nutella as a player than most of you and I already pointed out the really scummy posts. The second part is why I'm confident in this read.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:24 am No kill



Nutella is bad.

Epignosis wrote:
Sheeva
Furious Stomp: Queen Sindel’s Shokan bodyguard blocks her target.

Tell me somebody noticed this.

And there might be more.

This post is crap.

There's nothing scummy about Nutella's iso. The block theory is bad.

Tony is probably bad.

More Nutella iso.

I believe Dunya blocked Nutella or tried to. I don't think Nutella is the mafia killer.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:01 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:53 pm Ermac said the kill wasn't blocked.

Not sure how trustworthy that player or his information are.

Did he? Huh.

And if nutella was a roleblocked killer, held back by dunya, the kill never would have even reached its target in the first place. Nutella wouldn't even show up as a visit. Right?

So how would Ermac have known about the target?

I've been at a party instead of looking at Dunya's posts like I said I would but this has been ruminating in my head. Nutella isn't clear, but I don't think Dunya's pseudo-claim holds if Ermac is telling truth.

This is exactly what I'm getting at. There's very little chance of anyone knowing the mafia target if the mafia hitman was blocked.

I'm a page into Nutella's ISO and I don't see all the badness Tony states is there. If anything, early Nutella looks pretty town to me.

Ermac said the kill wasn't blocked.

Not sure how trustworthy that player or his information are.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:21 pm I'll say it again. If Wilgy is town, I'm gonna be annoyed with him.

And here's my problem with ya JoH. You feel the need to preemptively state how you will feel on someone's lynching. Your setting an expectation of failure.

Civilians are less inclined to do this as they don't know results. Mafia, however, will do this as they know failure has to happen and seem genuine.

JoH. You are Mafia.

Why the contrast between your play in this game and say...Pirates? Or even your town performance in Pirates vs your town performance in Street Fighter?

I'd love GTH reads on Tony and Eloh.

I'll say it again. If Wilgy is town, I'm gonna be annoyed with him.

I think Jimmy is bad, not Kano.

Why save Simon? What does he care who gets lynched? Why draw so much fire over this?

Kano claiming Kano is essentially losing.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:18 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:37 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:01 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:35 am @TonyStarkPrime

Why are you voting Nutella? Why should we not lynch you?

@Quin @Kylemii
@nutella
@Glorfindel

Is it possible Jimmy is Ermac?

I’m voting Nutella because Nutella is mafia. Don’t lynch me because I think you need me.

How confident are you with this outcome?

At this point, very.

Make your case.

Tony's ISO is pretty meh. Not a lot of good. Nothing bad that hasn't been covered, though that's substantial.

Going to do interactive reads between Jimmy and Tony. Not sure if that'll help with WIFOM and everything.

Gonna read Nutella too.

Tony, walk me through your progression.

How did you come to change your opinion so drastically about so many players?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 pm Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con


Someone give me better.

And I would ask Speed about Nova but apparently he’s about to answer.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:10 pm Let’s play The Who’s Mafia game, 2.0 edition.
I’ll start again.

Quin
Nutella
Nova
Eloh
Speedchuck / Simon


I’m still reading into Simon. Not sure how EOD impacts that read.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:50 am So with the removals Simon’s chance of being mafia goes way up but he’s also unlynchable today. Same with JJJ (who’s in murkier waters).

Percentage rainbow, just so you guys can see my thoughts:
Simon 95
Nutella 85
JJJ 60
Quin 35
Eloh 35
Wilgy 30
Dave / Dom 29
Nova 25
Lap 25
Made 20
Speedchuck 15
Long Con 15
Kyle 10
JOH 10
Marmot 10
Glor 1

@linki
Dunya and Simon in lynch contention, Simon saved by a weird third train and too many people voting Dunya.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:01 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:35 am @TonyStarkPrime

Why are you voting Nutella? Why should we not lynch you?

@Quin @Kylemii
@nutella
@Glorfindel

Is it possible Jimmy is Ermac?

I’m voting Nutella because Nutella is mafia. Don’t lynch me because I think you need me.

Let me rephrase.

"With your recent suspicious actions like saying we shouldn't lynch Simon and with roughly one mislynch allowed before we lose, what actual reasons do we have to trust you are town and what actual reasons do we have to lynch Nutella?"

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:05 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:35 am @TonyStarkPrime

Why are you voting Nutella? Why should we not lynch you?

@Quin @Kylemii
@nutella
@Glorfindel

Is it possible Jimmy is Ermac?

Anything is conceivably possible. I suppose it could’ve been him from the language he used but Ermac kinda sounded like he knew stuff and if Jay’s Indy claim is true, I don’t see how that could be true. I’m still not sure I believe any of the stuff he said - for a start, how could you ever take anyone seriously with a ‘cat in a sweater’ avatar?

My concern is that I have misinterpreted Jay's Ermac claim as a Kano claim. (Obligatory "Which is why claiming should just be allowed and you toss extra roles on the front page as safeclaims or else even claiming neutral should be a modkillable offense. This nudge nudge wink wink this isn't against the rules right business is not my favorite thing.)

While an Ermac claim is less believable than a Kano claim, I'd just as soon lynch Kano as a mafia member. The same does not apply to Ermac.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

Why are you voting Nutella? Why should we not lynch you?

[mention]Quin[/mention] [mention]Kylemii[/mention]
[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]Glorfindel[/mention]

Is it possible Jimmy is Ermac?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:48 am Jackofhearts2005 Glorfindel TonyStarkPrime

thoughts on marmot?

over-confident mafia fucking around to distract us or indie fucking around to distract us

I don't think two mafia members claim indy today. But I can't be sure.

Would be worth figuring out who Ermac is based on sentence structure, etc but I'm really tired.

Voting Wilgy for now.

Marmot or TSP may be our best bet, though.

16 town is down to 11
5 mafia are all here
2 indy probably still here

Mafia has a vote nullify and an extra vote. Kano will vote with them.

11 town votes (assuming Ermac goodish plus one nullified vote)
Vs
7 scum votes

There are additional ways this gets modified, especially by the townies but we should assume the scum can pull one additional vote that isn't obvious from the role list.

We mislynch and it's 9 vs 7. Another mislynch is 7 vs 7 and our aces probably don't beat the mafia aces.

To answer [mention]Kylemii[/mention]'s question, I think we get one mislynch. We happen to lynch Reptile, we are in better shape. I assume Simon is Reptile and was taken off the poll by a one shot or Shang Tsung because his night ability is useful.

With this in mind, if we mislynch, we should all use anything we have to kill, block, save or misdirect. Merely blocking or misdirecting Reptile or Shang Tsung may give us an extra day phase.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:54 pm Jimmy and Simon both off the poll. I see we've burned some mafia hidden abilities.

Can you clarify that?

Eeeeh or the mafia has IDed the townie who can do this and is power copying.

The good guys wouldn't purposefully take the two most suspicious players and make them unlynchable.

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

When did you turn orange? What's orange mean?

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

What do you think of Marmot?

[mention]rabbit8[/mention]

Thanks for your help. Keep playing with us please.

Jimmy and Simon both off the poll. I see we've burned some mafia hidden abilities.

[quote=JaggedJimmyJay post_id=399184 time=1516584430 user_id=402]
[quote=Jackofhearts2005 post_id=399182 user_id=541]
While we're giving out advice, don't claim antitown roles.
[/quote]

There are only five anti-town roles in this game. There are also two loner roles, neither of whom has to be dead for the civilians to win. Tell me this is a falsehood. Please, try to tell me that.
[/quote]

Survivors are antitown until there is one mafia member left.

If a survivor plays as a townie, the mafia should shoot them. This secures the survivor's vote for the mafia.

By claiming survivor, a survivor ensures a nightkill will not hit them, essentially killing a townie in the process to save themself.

Kano in particular must eliminate certain townies, making him antitown even if there is only one mafia member left.

With 5 townies, 3 mafia members and a claimed Kano, a lynched townie or going no lynch results in a town loss. Lynching Kano puts it at 4 townies vs 3 mafia and the game continues at lynch or lose, same as if a mafia member was lynched.

And this is even assuming anyone believes your claim, which I don't. A baddie could do this and hope to be left alone. Kano gains nothing from this play.

While we're giving out advice, don't claim antitown roles.

Show of hands. If Jimmy is really neutral and it came down to 3 town, 3 mafia and Jimmy, anybody think he's gonna vote for the town?

We were always going to have to eliminate Kano.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm I'm not a civilian.

I'm not mafia either.

I don't understand this post.

Trying to avoid lynch. Figures lie is easier to swallow than saying he's town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:08 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm I'm not a civilian.

I'm not mafia either.

I'm gonna lynch you anyway.

Then you don't care about the civilian win condition.

We have no reason to believe you are neutral and you have shown yourself to be against the town. At best you are an honorary mafia member with a weak nightpower. More likely, you are actually mafia.

Doesn't really matter.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm I'm not a civilian.

I'm not mafia either.

I'm gonna lynch you anyway.

If I put them in order from least to most bad, it would go Eloh, Marmot, Tony, Jimmy, Simon.

I wouldn't be even worried if I was Eloh and town. It's just the sheer number of people reacting to the Simon train badly that they can't all be town. I doubt all are mafia.

I'm not significantly worried about Lap or Speed. Yeah, maybe there's a baddie in there but there's time to find them later. Nutella, Kyle, Rabbit all trending upward imo.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:44 pm jack I think I already know the answer to this but do you advocate a Simon lynch day 4?

Yes. Simon was around at least twice and choose to vote but not address the accusations against him.

Additionally, he's way too difficult to lynch. Jimmy acted to save him. Tony is advocating lynching someone else. Eloh choose Dunya over him on what is supposedly a coin toss and then advocated lynching Simon too if Dunya was bad (but she wasn't). Marmot stated he thought I had info on Simon but voted Dunya.

Now, I doubt that's the 5 person mafia. Too easy. But some of them are defending their buddy. If I was wrong on Simon, he'd have been lynched yesterday.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:14 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:07 pm Eloh and Lap are some of my top suspects on the Dunya lynch.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:11 pm I’m leaning Town on Lap

k dude

Tony is all over the place after that mislynch. Reads of opportunism and fear of being caught pushing a bad idea.

He's passed Wilgy as a scumspect in my book.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:58 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:31 pm If we lynch Simon and he’s mafia we have to choose whether to pursue JJJ/ Wilgy or Nutella / Eloh / Lap and there’s way too much room for error. M

what does this mean? where did those groups of names come from and what do they have to do with each other and why do we have to choose between them?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:07 pm Actually Tony, who do you want to lynch tomorrow if you think Simon's a bad lynch?

Good question.

Probably Nutella.

Over Wilgy? Really?

And Jack, yeah I misread your post about Jay. I guess it's more likely that either Simon and Jay are bad together or Simon and Speed are bad together and probably not both. Do you think both Jay and Wilgy are bad for voting for speed?

I think Wilgy is bad for the same reasons I've thought all game. He's not hunting. He's just playing with WIFOM.

I think Jimmy is bad for continually saying he thinks Simon is bad and then looking for excuses to vote for other players instead, particularly switching from basically tied baddie Simon to Speedchuck with no real case even though there were only 15 min until end of day and even though Speed had only one vote on him. This resulted in Dunya, a townie, dying instead of Simon, a baddie.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:19 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:32 pm I haven't read in a couple days, but I do remember Dunya coming in here defending Simon a lot to someone who was suspecting him. So, that alone is a Simon/Dunya teammie ping. I will put my vote on Dunya since she has the most already. And if she turns out bad, I say we go Simon next.

Yuckyuckyuck.

Y'all told me to just pick someone to vote for. And now you want to say, "yuck"? The two with the most votes were dunya and Simon. Dunya had the most. And I am not sure, but I think if I had voted Simon, it would have made a tie. No, thank you.

My migraine let up for about an hour or two yesterday evening but came back in the middle of the night. I'm starting to think something is wrong with me.

Your vote is not yuck (though I wish you had voted Simon).

What is yuck is picking to vote for the townie and then tying their alignments together. You avoided lynching a baddie and then put forth an excuse to not vote him later either.

Sorry about your migraine. I hope you feel better.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:07 pm Actually Tony, who do you want to lynch tomorrow if you think Simon's a bad lynch?

Good question.

Probably Nutella.

Why?

If Simon lives through the night (and the mafia will absolutely doctor him) he should be the only lynch candidate.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:57 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.

Tell me more about this.

What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.

Who’s mafia if Simon is town?
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?

You didn't answer my question.

I answered it later I think. Or I didn’t. Absolutely nothing at all. Which is a little concerning.

For me.

Why then did you come out of that lynching saying that Simon must be town?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:31 pm Hot take: Simon and Dunya both town

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_take

And now that you've had more time to think about it?