You feel that I accused you and DDL in a blustery way?juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:18 pmThe fact that usually an adverb is an unnecessary word in a post has been voiced before but I've never seen the argument extended to say it changed the meaning of the sentence. In this case it did Imo turn the sentence into an accusation and seemed blustery.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:59 pmIt is? Tell me about that.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:23 pmEpi famously says the use of adverbs is a scum tell (which has proved true in some cases) but I think this ievel of detail is much more convincing.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:55 amDisclaimer: I have never heard of the "Actually" tell. I made it up. That said, let's take a look.Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:40 amTell me about this tell. It seems pretty random. Like the "interesting" tell that got pinned on myself onetime when I was town.
What is the purpose of this word in the sentence? Without 'actually' in there, the sentence reads:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pm You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
"You or Juliets think I scumread Mac from one post?" which is a question.
Putting in "actually" turns this question into an attack on their alignment or reasoning, one of the two. It insinuates that either DDL/Juliets don't believe what they are saying (therefore scum)... or they do, and that it's ridiculous. Painting their inquiry as scummy or ridiculous is an aggressive, defensive measure that pushes them to back off and shuts down the line of inquiry without actually answering their query.
In short, it's an unnecessary word that comes from a possibly-bad and blustery perspective. I see this post and hear a ten-year-old Overwatch player yelling into the microphone "You actually think this is my main account? You're seriously stupid if you think this Silver account is my main account. I'm actually ranked Diamond."
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- Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:20 pm
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Day 1]
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:19 pm
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Lol but why would I kill you?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:18 pmGo for it, dude. Then kill me and ride out the credit to endgame.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:16 pmCool. Let me bus DDL.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:14 pmIf you're scum, it nudges the odds of her being scum up the meter by a smidgen or two.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:58 pmWhat does that tell you about Sabie if I’m scum? If I’m town?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:42 pmSoftest defense of Jack ever.sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:34 pm Do people "actually" use certain words depending on whether they're bad or not?
So looks like its between ddl and jack currently.
Jack usually is overzealous when hes good and puts out a lot of random thoughts and jokes and things. When he was bad he seemed more chill. Right now I'm not sure. DDL for some reason I don't know how to read him. I just felt this game so far he could be bad.
Maybe they're both bad and trying for the town cred of voting one another so either way one of them can lead the game in the wrong direction. It happened in shock headed peter with jack and in world of flags sloonei killed a teammate for town cred so it's not unheard of.
As of right now though I'm leaning a DDL vote. He puts a lot of stock into the random vote thing when it seems like that's what a lot of people tend to do early game before they make a final decision.
Not appreciably, though. It may just be that she thinks DDL is the slightly scummier option, like she said.
I haven't ruled out a Jack/DDL team yet, anyway. Sabie hasn't said or committed enough to anything to be compatible or incompatible with anyone.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:16 pm
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Cool. Let me bus DDL.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:14 pmIf you're scum, it nudges the odds of her being scum up the meter by a smidgen or two.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:58 pmWhat does that tell you about Sabie if I’m scum? If I’m town?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:42 pmSoftest defense of Jack ever.sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:34 pm Do people "actually" use certain words depending on whether they're bad or not?
So looks like its between ddl and jack currently.
Jack usually is overzealous when hes good and puts out a lot of random thoughts and jokes and things. When he was bad he seemed more chill. Right now I'm not sure. DDL for some reason I don't know how to read him. I just felt this game so far he could be bad.
Maybe they're both bad and trying for the town cred of voting one another so either way one of them can lead the game in the wrong direction. It happened in shock headed peter with jack and in world of flags sloonei killed a teammate for town cred so it's not unheard of.
As of right now though I'm leaning a DDL vote. He puts a lot of stock into the random vote thing when it seems like that's what a lot of people tend to do early game before they make a final decision.
Not appreciably, though. It may just be that she thinks DDL is the slightly scummier option, like she said.
I haven't ruled out a Jack/DDL team yet, anyway. Sabie hasn't said or committed enough to anything to be compatible or incompatible with anyone.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:05 pm
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Day 1]
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:32 pmJack, why did you answer this instead of letting Luna answer it? If Luna is bad it gives her an out to say "just a gut reason". She replied later in detail and didn't use the "gut" answer that you gave her here (thank you Luna for your reply) but it still looks funny to me that you spoke up to try and tell me what she was thinking.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:10 amI realize this is problematic if Luna is scum and it doesn’t do anything to make people think I’m town but whatever. Luna does tend to scumread me when we are both town for gut reasons. I don’t have a problem with her vote beyond it making me more likely to be lynched.
I feel like Luna has voted me D1 several games in a row. Doesn’t even feel worth talking about but hey, she did end up having something to say.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:59 pm
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It is? Tell me about that.juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:23 pmEpi famously says the use of adverbs is a scum tell (which has proved true in some cases) but I think this ievel of detail is much more convincing.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:55 amDisclaimer: I have never heard of the "Actually" tell. I made it up. That said, let's take a look.Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:40 amTell me about this tell. It seems pretty random. Like the "interesting" tell that got pinned on myself onetime when I was town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 amDid you have something to say about that?
What is the purpose of this word in the sentence? Without 'actually' in there, the sentence reads:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pm You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
"You or Juliets think I scumread Mac from one post?" which is a question.
Putting in "actually" turns this question into an attack on their alignment or reasoning, one of the two. It insinuates that either DDL/Juliets don't believe what they are saying (therefore scum)... or they do, and that it's ridiculous. Painting their inquiry as scummy or ridiculous is an aggressive, defensive measure that pushes them to back off and shuts down the line of inquiry without actually answering their query.
In short, it's an unnecessary word that comes from a possibly-bad and blustery perspective. I see this post and hear a ten-year-old Overwatch player yelling into the microphone "You actually think this is my main account? You're seriously stupid if you think this Silver account is my main account. I'm actually ranked Diamond."
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:58 pm
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What does that tell you about Sabie if I’m scum? If I’m town?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:42 pmSoftest defense of Jack ever.sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:34 pm Do people "actually" use certain words depending on whether they're bad or not?
So looks like its between ddl and jack currently.
Jack usually is overzealous when hes good and puts out a lot of random thoughts and jokes and things. When he was bad he seemed more chill. Right now I'm not sure. DDL for some reason I don't know how to read him. I just felt this game so far he could be bad.
Maybe they're both bad and trying for the town cred of voting one another so either way one of them can lead the game in the wrong direction. It happened in shock headed peter with jack and in world of flags sloonei killed a teammate for town cred so it's not unheard of.
As of right now though I'm leaning a DDL vote. He puts a lot of stock into the random vote thing when it seems like that's what a lot of people tend to do early game before they make a final decision.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:14 pm
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Day 1]
The ole can’t do tricks tell.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:13 pm
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DDL didn’t do a trick cause he’s not a dog.
He’s a wolf.
He’s a wolf.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:13 pm
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Day 1]
Do something else. Do a trick.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:08 pmThat's not true.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:03 pm
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- Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:47 pm
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Day 1]
DDL is a wolf.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:35 pm
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Lol you caught me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:55 amDisclaimer: I have never heard of the "Actually" tell. I made it up. That said, let's take a look.Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:40 amTell me about this tell. It seems pretty random. Like the "interesting" tell that got pinned on myself onetime when I was town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 amDid you have something to say about that?
What is the purpose of this word in the sentence? Without 'actually' in there, the sentence reads:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pm You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
"You or Juliets think I scumread Mac from one post?" which is a question.
Putting in "actually" turns this question into an attack on their alignment or reasoning, one of the two. It insinuates that either DDL/Juliets don't believe what they are saying (therefore scum)... or they do, and that it's ridiculous. Painting their inquiry as scummy or ridiculous is an aggressive, defensive measure that pushes them to back off and shuts down the line of inquiry without actually answering their query.
In short, it's an unnecessary word that comes from a possibly-bad and blustery perspective. I see this post and hear a ten-year-old Overwatch player yelling into the microphone "You actually think this is my main account? You're seriously stupid if you think this Silver account is my main account. I'm actually ranked Diamond."
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- Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:29 pm
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I get the “interesting” tell. “Interesting” isn’t good or bad. It’s saying something without really saying anything. It calls attention to something without weighing in. A townie may still say something is interesting but there is a reason to believe a wolf would be more inclined to use the word.Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:40 amTell me about this tell. It seems pretty random. Like the "interesting" tell that got pinned on myself onetime when I was town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 amDid you have something to say about that?
Idk why Speed thinks “actually” is a thing scum say more than townies.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:22 pm
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“That’s a stupid reason to scumread someone.”speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 amDid you have something to say about that?
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:59 am
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speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:27 amConsidering voting Jack here for the "Actually" tell.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pmIt’s rvs and Mac’s a big boy that doesn’t need your help.
You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
But DDL ends up looking just as bad in this exchange.
What I'm saying is Leetic is town.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:10 am
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I realize this is problematic if Luna is scum and it doesn’t do anything to make people think I’m town but whatever. Luna does tend to scumread me when we are both town for gut reasons. I don’t have a problem with her vote beyond it making me more likely to be lynched.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:41 am
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If someone doesn’t use an “April Fools” defense to walk back a bad accusation today, I will be disappointed.
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:40 am
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Day 1]
Why is Speedchuck bad?
- Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:37 am
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Oh shit it’s SHP all over again. Better bus DDL.
But seriously this post below? It comes from a wolf.
Leetic is right. This is a bad reason to vote that is typical of wolves.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:02 pmEh no I hate this argument.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:54 pmRandom voting stage.
Random voting, semi random voting, joke voting, reaction voting and following the most minor suspicions until these things generate enough content to actually do real hunting.
Yeah I know rvs is a thing, despite not knowing the term before.
Votes are never truly random though, we always make them for a reason, however shallow it may be.
You gave no reason, and when I asked for one, you replied with the old "day 1 is useless why are you asking me to do work" rethoric.
If you just made a joke vote and explained it, or if you made a vote for a shallow reason, it would be fine, but it feels like you are going out of your way to be obstructive. This isn't civilian logic.
Townies do vote players they don’t actually suspect in rvs. Townies don’t vote players with intent to lynch for doing so. I’ve never seen DDL hate on early semirandom voting with this kind of certainty before. He’s faking, here.
Ftr, my vote on Mac was not random but also I didn’t scumread him. Out of the players who had posted at the time, I had (however flimsy) some reason to townread most of them but no reason to townread Mac. So I voted there to see what would happen and what happened was DDL got caught being scummy.
I never said D1 was useless.
[VOTE: DDL] aubergine
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:56 pm
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Yes, it was.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:54 pmWas it to get a reaction or just for the heck of it?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:49 pmYou’ve never voted to get a reaction or just for the heck of it D1?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:42 pmYou voted for him.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pmIt’s rvs and Mac’s a big boy that doesn’t need your help.
You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
I said your vote was disgusting.
If you voted him without scumreading him, it's still disgusting.
If that bothers you, then convince me your vote is not disgusting.
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:54 pm
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Random voting stage.
Random voting, semi random voting, joke voting, reaction voting and following the most minor suspicions until these things generate enough content to actually do real hunting.
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:49 pm
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You’ve never voted to get a reaction or just for the heck of it D1?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:42 pmYou voted for him.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pmIt’s rvs and Mac’s a big boy that doesn’t need your help.
You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
I said your vote was disgusting.
If you voted him without scumreading him, it's still disgusting.
If that bothers you, then convince me your vote is not disgusting.
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:39 pm
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It’s rvs and Mac’s a big boy that doesn’t need your help.
You (or Juliets) actually think I scumread Mac from one post?
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:38 pm
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Oh yeah?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:16 pm Getting a weird feel from Luna. Like she's more casual or something. Not like.
Jack's vote on Mac is disgusting.
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:34 pm
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You’re coming at that from the wrong angle.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:51 amJack as far as I can see this is Mac's only post:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:59 am Whomp whomp.
I'm actually not that inclined to vote for Nova today. I like him being firey. It's helped the town when he's town. If he's not? Let's see if he hangs himself with it.
I like Luna's tone. Obligatory "I suck at reading Luna."
Why don't I [VOTE: Mac] aubergine.
What about this hits you hard enough to vote for him?
- Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:59 am
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Whomp whomp.
I'm actually not that inclined to vote for Nova today. I like him being firey. It's helped the town when he's town. If he's not? Let's see if he hangs himself with it.
I like Luna's tone. Obligatory "I suck at reading Luna."
Why don't I [VOTE: Mac] aubergine.
I'm actually not that inclined to vote for Nova today. I like him being firey. It's helped the town when he's town. If he's not? Let's see if he hangs himself with it.
I like Luna's tone. Obligatory "I suck at reading Luna."
Why don't I [VOTE: Mac] aubergine.
- Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:19 pm
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- Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:41 am
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Night 0]
Let’s start with a pretend vote on DDL.
- Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:38 am
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Re: The Addams Family Mafia [Night 0]
Lets play a game. It’s called “Is there a God?”