Yeah, well, that’s what happens when you don’t come up with a conclusion before you start writing a paper.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:02 pm Then's a lot a words to arrive at "Probably no read here"
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- Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:51 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 4
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:56 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 4
I hope there’s just one scum. That would be funny.
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:55 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 4
What does scum want to do in this game? Not get burned. So scum can’t be suspect but scum also doesn’t want to be top town to avoid questions of “why is X not dead yet?”
Now, normal scum doesn’t have to worry about the later unless they bus and there are no other consensus townies. In this game, scum can accidentally lynch a partner....which might not actually make them townread.
But if it did, it would be bad. Does scum want to avoid pushing their suspects too hard? Avoid looking too pure?
INH kinda threads the needle between trying and not trying. But that’s probably not that far off typical INH behavior.
Probably no perspective read to be had here.
Now, normal scum doesn’t have to worry about the later unless they bus and there are no other consensus townies. In this game, scum can accidentally lynch a partner....which might not actually make them townread.
But if it did, it would be bad. Does scum want to avoid pushing their suspects too hard? Avoid looking too pure?
INH kinda threads the needle between trying and not trying. But that’s probably not that far off typical INH behavior.
Probably no perspective read to be had here.
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:45 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 4
INH’s iso is super short. He has opinions and he has reasoning for his opinions but they’re all pretty surface and mostly two phases old.
Like he’s after me for the Speedchuck burn but he’s made exactly one post about Speed, which was on Day 1. Him silently holding onto this read for three days and making a push based on it feels disingenuous.
His Colin case is okay. Like it’s not convincing but it feels okay. He (in his own words) “lazily” votes Colin again and that’s about it. He doesn’t really pursue the read.
I’d say maybe 60-70% chance INH is scum.
Like he’s after me for the Speedchuck burn but he’s made exactly one post about Speed, which was on Day 1. Him silently holding onto this read for three days and making a push based on it feels disingenuous.
His Colin case is okay. Like it’s not convincing but it feels okay. He (in his own words) “lazily” votes Colin again and that’s about it. He doesn’t really pursue the read.
I’d say maybe 60-70% chance INH is scum.
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:32 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 4
Maybe you should have weighed in yesterday.insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:09 am INH'S SHITLIST OF SUSPECTS THAT HE WILL BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE:
Colin
Elo
JoH (i mean what the fuck)
Coming into a game criticizing mislynches and other demoralizing behavior is a scum tell imo.
Was it four games in a row I saw scum do that when it brought it up in Mega Man? I was right on DH. Now it’s five games. Or is it six, INH?
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:16 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 4
Ugh.
Sorry, @Speedchuck
Sorry, @Speedchuck
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:55 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Made my decision.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:11 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
It's actually awesome to be good as scum and bad as a townie cause you get to be around for lylo, which is best part of mafia and also mostly nobody asks you why you aren't dead yet. It's only a problem because in my heart, I am a townie irl.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:09 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Maybe high level vanillaish mafia is just scumsided.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:09 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
And how many mafia victories?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:07 pmIt was me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:01 pmOh man was it Speed they were worried about replacing in as a baddie?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:40 pmI have data I could use to vehemently argue with you, but I'll just take the high for now.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:36 pm I think speed has a reputation as a very formidable player and generally not someone you want to have on the other team. The scum in Fire Emblem killed rabbit N1 solely because they were afraid speed would replace in against them.
I mean, you're overrated as hell but I wanna say Colin is right about this.
Spoiler: show
But I'm currently coming off of the third consecutive game that I've led townies to a loss. I don't know that I've ever been a dangerous town player, per se. Talkative, but not too dangerous. My best town performance was in Mountain Mafia... and I was third party.
though.
Anyway, I wouldn't bring that up except for Colin basically saying "why is speed not nightkilled yet" when I never get nightkilled early in mafia games.
I swear, you're an alternate universe me. I've felt it since our first game together. I cannot lose as scum or win as town lately.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:08 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
So not burning Colin, DH, Quin due to townreading and probably shouldn't burn Eloh and Wilgy due to not having a clue on them.
So DDL, INH, TH and Speedchuck is probably my lynch pool. I do got that standard DDL suspicion but it isn't enough to jump on.
I'm not going to ask for an elaborate song and dance but I would like as many accusations and as much reasoning thrown out as possible, even for players I don't think I should burn.
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] give me your power. I know you have actual insight and you keep signing up so I know deep in your heart, you wanna give it to me.
Also, who would kill new player? Who would not? I don't think Speed or Quin would. The new player is friends with DDL right? (Or was that Kara?) I don't think he'd kill them so early.
Also, even if it is mylo, scum might shoot scum tonight.
Linki: And I might even burn scum today.
So DDL, INH, TH and Speedchuck is probably my lynch pool. I do got that standard DDL suspicion but it isn't enough to jump on.
I'm not going to ask for an elaborate song and dance but I would like as many accusations and as much reasoning thrown out as possible, even for players I don't think I should burn.
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] give me your power. I know you have actual insight and you keep signing up so I know deep in your heart, you wanna give it to me.
Also, who would kill new player? Who would not? I don't think Speed or Quin would. The new player is friends with DDL right? (Or was that Kara?) I don't think he'd kill them so early.
Also, even if it is mylo, scum might shoot scum tonight.
Linki: And I might even burn scum today.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:01 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Oh man was it Speed they were worried about replacing in as a baddie?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:40 pmI have data I could use to vehemently argue with you, but I'll just take the high for now.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:36 pm I think speed has a reputation as a very formidable player and generally not someone you want to have on the other team. The scum in Fire Emblem killed rabbit N1 solely because they were afraid speed would replace in against them.
I mean, you're overrated as hell but I wanna say Colin is right about this.
Spoiler: show
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:18 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Just imagine there’s an asterisk after all of my posts where I admit I am a very good goon and a very poor townie but I’m doing the best I can and you can laugh later if I’m wrong.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:16 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Not gonna burn DH today either. Maybe he let me live cause he’s scum and he’s hoping I get misburned. But why vote for me or say he’s gonna vote for me? As a sker and a player who kicked my tail in a recent game that I was a bit salty about, that’s needlessly dangerous. Likely townie.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:15 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Why lie about this tho?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:02 pmYou read an Eloh scum game, evaluated the content, synthesizedva point and wrote this post all in 4 minutes?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:00 pm Answer: Nope, Mafia Elohcin is not really more aggressive. But then, this is more of a SK game. And I'm not looking for an indy Eloh for hours.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:26 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
I just want to know the terms of mylo.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:23 pm We don't know the number of assimilated so how could we know when we're in mylo or lylo or whatever?
But it's not out of the normal to have 4 scum in a game this size. Going into a game with 10 players, 4 of which are scum is often mylo.
Like, I didn't vote for Wilgy last night.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:25 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
I have no idea what to do with Eloh. Half the time I help mislynch her, it's cause I think there's a slip or she's defending but I'm wrong. Half the time she wins as mafia, I thought she slipped or defended a partner and I let it slide. Like the one time I just tone read her, I thought she was town but I was wrong.
Does Quin actually have a good track record of determining Eloh's alignment? Would it still apply to SK Eloh? I never go back and check these things.
Does Quin actually have a good track record of determining Eloh's alignment? Would it still apply to SK Eloh? I never go back and check these things.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:22 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Show you what? Sprityo just got immolated primarily based on my suggestion and I've not really labeled any other suspects. Clearly...speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:53 pmYou asked.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:51 pm1. So?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:49 pm1. You said you knew what to do with it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:43 pmWhy? I'm at the bottom of your rainbow list and you're aware I haven't read the whole game.
Wouldn't I be a terrible person to give a flamethrower to?
2. If I had colored that rainbow, you'd have been yellow. Only the two under you are scumreads of mine at the moment, which is a problem of its own.
3. If I read you as scum, I might consider giving you the flamethrower anyway. Could learn a lot about who you are and who your teammates might be by the way you handle it. (all things considered, scum are as blind as we are in some cases. Sometimes not. Either way it would be interesting to see how they handle the firecannon)
linkis I will read them
2. Nobody knew that but you, right?
3. At potentially mylo? When I might be bad AND not know who my teammates even are?
I don't follow this reasoning.
1. So show me.
2. So?
3. I doubt that it's MYLO, personally. I didn't even consider that it might be MYLO before now.
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- Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:18 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
[mention]G-Man[/mention]
Can we get a public clarification on the endgame condition?
Thanks.
Can we get a public clarification on the endgame condition?
Thanks.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:51 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
1. So?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:49 pm1. You said you knew what to do with it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:43 pmWhy? I'm at the bottom of your rainbow list and you're aware I haven't read the whole game.
Wouldn't I be a terrible person to give a flamethrower to?
2. If I had colored that rainbow, you'd have been yellow. Only the two under you are scumreads of mine at the moment, which is a problem of its own.
3. If I read you as scum, I might consider giving you the flamethrower anyway. Could learn a lot about who you are and who your teammates might be by the way you handle it. (all things considered, scum are as blind as we are in some cases. Sometimes not. Either way it would be interesting to see how they handle the firecannon)
linkis I will read them
2. Nobody knew that but you, right?
3. At potentially mylo? When I might be bad AND not know who my teammates even are?
I don't follow this reasoning.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:49 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
What I'm getting at is that depending on the number of things and the scum win condition, we may be at mylo.
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:48 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
I'm probably not gonna burn Colin. Generally getting a townie vibe there. Like he's trying for sure.
My first couple pages gave me a strong townread on Quin but he hasn't been as present lately.
There's only 10 of us. What's balanced? 3 or 4 scum? This is a stupid question for Day 4 but....does the mafia win when they get parity? Or when they eliminate the civies? That is, can the mafia win by having 4 townies and 4 scum if they don't know who the other scum players are?
My first couple pages gave me a strong townread on Quin but he hasn't been as present lately.
There's only 10 of us. What's balanced? 3 or 4 scum? This is a stupid question for Day 4 but....does the mafia win when they get parity? Or when they eliminate the civies? That is, can the mafia win by having 4 townies and 4 scum if they don't know who the other scum players are?
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:43 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Why? I'm at the bottom of your rainbow list and you're aware I haven't read the whole game.
Wouldn't I be a terrible person to give a flamethrower to?
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:26 am
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Guess I gotta read the rest of those pages huh?
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:22 am
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 4
Who voted for me and who voted for someone else?
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:21 am
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- Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:18 am
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- Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:38 pm
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- Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:33 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
Give me the flame thrower. I know what to do with it.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:09 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
Sorry, Keith David.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:54 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
Lynching Wilgy cause we’d all kill him is pretty freaking harsh.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:53 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
What did I tap to autocorrect nk to mod?
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:50 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
Lol I’m like 0 for 7 as a townie in lylo in the past year or so but thanks.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:23 pm I prolly woulda killed jack ; fearsome as town but also if he was on my team I'd wanna know about it.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
I almost asked this but I’m usually surprised by early mod so I decided to not try and guess.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:25 pm Ooh wait here’s an idea
Let’s assume N1 was scum-unknowingly-attempting-to-NK-scum
Who would you have nightkilled if you were scum, and why?
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:43 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
I’m fine with not having a hall pass but anyone who uses reasoning like “Jack is much quieter than usual. Therefore he is scum” should be torched for opportunism because I’m generally super active as a scum or 3P player. I’m fact, SK is one of my very favorite roles and if anything, I’d be extra engaged if I was bad.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:41 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
So each time a kill is missed, it can only be cause scum shot scum right?
So there’s almost an actual mafia at this point.
So there’s almost an actual mafia at this point.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:37 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
Like if I’m scum and the only way I can die is to be lynched and there’s a mechanic to prevent that, I’m trying to use that mechanic as often as possible.
Yes, getting the flamethrower can be protown but it is certainly not a thing only townies do.
Yes, getting the flamethrower can be protown but it is certainly not a thing only townies do.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:35 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
And cause you can’t get burned if you’ve got it.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:39 am That sprit angle certainly is plausible, but I don’t really see him trying to get the attention of the flamethrower so quickly if he is scum. If he did, he didn’t think his choice of Mac through well enough at all — the only reason you go after that thing is for town cred, and he lost some.
- Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:31 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 3
+1Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:26 ammind that sprityo's thing was about non-voters, not non-participants. hence jack was on his list too.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:45 pm I mean right now I'm looking for thoughts on sprityo. I think Jack brought up a good point about a scum sprit abusing the general dislike of inactives as an excuse to torch Mac early.
Jack could get torched for playing on the fringes but I want to give him a little leash and see what he does with it
I've got a few town reads that won't likely face the napalm end of this thing
If there's another popular candidate I'll put some pressure on them, I might try to rattle Chuck's cage a bit
but if I were going to burn mac, jack or doc, i'd have burned doc based on recent track record for participation. Town doesn't need
- Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:50 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 0
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- Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:55 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 2
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- Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:37 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 2
I’m late to the party and speedrunning dis game.
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- Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:00 pm
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- Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:58 pm
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- Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:51 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2
If there’s no good case to be made so be it. Part of the process. Believe in the system. /
- Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:50 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2
Imma case Quin for the lolz.
- Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:49 pm
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Re: Outpost 31- DAY 2
Never mind. Apparently we’re playing walking dead Mario party.
- Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:47 pm
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- Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:38 pm
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- Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:14 am
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Re: Outpost 31- NIGHT 1
Im pretty okay with Speed or Quin having a flamethrower on a general level.
Pretty well disagree with Mac being burned if it was for not voting but that’s the problem with policy lynches. They seem like a good idea until they lock you into a bad decision.
Pretty well disagree with Mac being burned if it was for not voting but that’s the problem with policy lynches. They seem like a good idea until they lock you into a bad decision.