The Syndicate

Posting my intention to vote DDL per Quin's argument and Snow Dog's horrendous defense of himself. I would much rather lynch Snow Dog and if two other players who haven't already voted were willing to do so, I'd vote for Snow Dog instead. If DDL flips town, I'm not convinced Snow is town. If Snow fl...

Suuuuuper unconvinced by Snow's defense.

"Your accusation is bullshit cause it's not true and btw, I'm not gonna defend myself."

Lol okay.

Are we even allowed to alignment claim?

*misrepresenting not misreported

Good God.

*reaching not teaching

Eaap or whatever

And by "hate" I mean "live" cause it justifies my town read on DDL. How does that work? :confused: And I realize that you probably meant "love" and not "live", that's fine... I mean how does Snow Dog's vote reasoning justify your town read of DDL? Do you mean...

I'm behind. Whatever. What's the advantage of random voting at all? If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote. If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly? Not voting as any kind of deliberate choice is very much frowned upon in our history. Having said ...

DrWilgy wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Can docs target themselves?
Duh

My home site generally doesn't allow self targeting docs, which I like.

It does allow targetting the same player twice in a row (except for silencing), but I prefer the rule against doing that here.

Town reading Nacho. Got a few Night Phase questions that probably should have been asked earlier. If you get blocked or otherwise fail, does the mod tell you. If you cop player a and get misdirected to player b, does the mod say "player b is town" or just "town"? Can docs target ...

Well shit. That was bad. Jack: Could you tell me what you dislike? About your vote? You express suspicion about Markot like 5 times and explain this suspicion of him 1 time, weakly, by qualifying your reasons with "I think" after expressing suspicion of several other players for the same ...

Posting edit whatever

"Like" means "like to keep around" not "like for a lynch."

Sorta figured out how to ISO on this board.

Okay with Soirityo lynch. Like Lorab much better. Like Dom a bit worse. Macro about the same.

Fwiw Jack, LoRab has zero votes. That was meant to be a hypothetical but I left off an "if." Dislike Daisy's vote. Dislike MP's more but I've discussed mafia theory enough this game. I actually find Dom's relative silence and post about Klaus and cult worse than the other two low posters ...

Now wait a second jack. What's the advantage of random voting at all? If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote. If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly? Yeah? You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all. Now you're randomizing a lo...

Now wait a second jack. What's the advantage of random voting at all? If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote. If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly? Yeah? You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all. Now you're randomizing a lo...

Now wait a second jack. What's the advantage of random voting at all? If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote. If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly? Yeah? You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all. Now you're randomizing a lo...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

@SpaceDaisy In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it. So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow. I dislike this post, I say the same thing when I'm mafia. :ponder: But I woul...

If it is, I call bullshit. If you didn't suspect him at all you should have and would have made that abundantly clear. Disagree. Agree with your thoughts on policy lynches. Re: "Funny how Jack thinks Snow was joking when he never said that during our exchange." Well, I've never played wit...

@SpaceDaisy

In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it.

So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow.

I'm leaning DDL with my vote. The call for a policy lynch/vig kill on snow dog for starters. Then after that the arguing game theory just stands out more to me than anything else anyone else has done. :shrug: How rare do you feel a successful policy lynch is? Depends on how you quantify success. ;)...

What is "Linki"?

What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Before Zebra came in, I said not reading a role was a terrible idea and someone who would do so or pretend to do so sounded like a good D1 lynch target. Idk what everyone else thinks or thinks I think but I don't think you should actually decide who to vote for on D0 based one one post with one shor...

I'm going to disagree with your summary of my read on Zebra as "genuine." I do not view the way she went about that as "genuine." She saw a very weak attack on a player, mischaracterized the severity and completeness of the reasoning of said attack, put forth a nonsensical and un...

Corrections:

Swap I and Do in my first sentence about Sonji.

DDL is calling for a Snow vig kill, not lynch.

@Jack - I didn't miss those posts, but they represented a progression from the starting point. In the particular post that really set zebra out, you did LIST three possibilities, and not the fourth. I don't know how you can say that's 100% false - here's the post: I could get behind splitting the d...

The easy route doesn't allow you to paint people as scum. For all the angles Zebra expects DDL and Jack to have considered, at a time when no decision or claim can even be close to final, she overlooks angles herself like culture clash and approaches their statements as definitive in terms of Snow ...

I don't wanna talk about Glorf's moral principals. Look y'all, life is like a box of chocolates mmk? Sometimes you get cherry cordial, and you didn't want cherry cordial. Sometimes you pop an almond in your mouth and you're allergic to almond. Next time just stick to an apple or something that has ...

:| Playing Mafia while being unwilling to lie is like playing futbol/soccer while being unwilling to kick the ball. Lying is what the game is about; there is no moral issue. That's what I was afraid of. I think a better metaphor would be playing Call of Duty but refusing to shoot anyone because you...

@Glor

Forgive me.

What deep moral principles, exactly, cause you to not be able to claim your alignment?

Epignosis wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:I hope that Epi's scum game is half as good as he says it is!!
I don't have a "scum game."
You probably do, just don't know it yet
No. I don't.

*cough*

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=2

I'm excited to understand this site's meta more where I can start to understand roles more - I didn't have a single guess to who was what role by the end of Monkey Island and I've found the lack of information makes me feel very very lost, but I'm hoping that changes pretty soon!! You! You're the g...

I'm excited to understand this site's meta more where I can start to understand roles more - I didn't have a single guess to who was what role by the end of Monkey Island and I've found the lack of information makes me feel very very lost, but I'm hoping that changes pretty soon!! You! You're the g...

If I had a daykill, I would not have been able to resist.

I'm excited to understand this site's meta more where I can start to understand roles more - I didn't have a single guess to who was what role by the end of Monkey Island and I've found the lack of information makes me feel very very lost, but I'm hoping that changes pretty soon!! You! You're the g...

Golden wrote:It's a bad idea to style-read Zebra, but what I perceive in her posts are good motives and an effort to cut through bullsuit.

With an axe made of further bullshit.

Only the Sith blah blah.

I hear you guys lynch on Day One round here.

When do people start deciding who they think is bad?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Two pages after his first post and I already think Sig looks fishy.

Must... not... lynch... Sig... again.

Fishy how.

Let me throw this out there and see what people think.

Mathematically, the cult is not much of a threat. Using one of Klaus's auto scum catches on Ishmael would most benefit.....the mafia.

So players expressing extreme unwarranted concern about the cult are somewhat suspicious to me at this point.

Uhhh ishmael, given those recent revelations is a huge threat. Explain... sounds like he could recruit baddies and help finish the game earlier in the Civs favour. I guess it works in reverse if he recruits Civs? He could recruit baddies yes, which hurts them. However they also need to be the large...

Uhhh ishmael, given those recent revelations is a huge threat. Explain... sounds like he could recruit baddies and help finish the game earlier in the Civs favour. I guess it works in reverse if he recruits Civs? Mirrors my thoughts. Could put us in the awkward situation where the cult and the town...

Zebra, Faraday , Long Con, Snow Dog, and you. I think those are the only ones in that game that were here discussing the subject. I will table my thoughts on Snow Dog and try to give him a fresh start in my book. I do seriously hate I wasted all that time on it though. I wasn't even going to read a...

Thanks, DF.

Same for me, usually, but I didn't want to assume.

Would the cult vanillaize its recruits? Can mafia members be cultified?

Would Olaf be immune to Klaus's role check? The gravedigger seems fairly weak and the conditional double voter, while strong, could give away herself and a teammate if she actually uses the double vote. I consider the roleblocker the best Klaus's target in this mafia. The other mafia don has SECRETS...

@LC On HCRealms, you are allowed to make statements specifically for a lie detector. There's really no getting around it. There's all sorts of reasons a cop could be wrong but lie detectors are generally bulletproof, putting a scum player in an impossible situation. I prefer this "no 'I am town...

Yeah @ the lie detector ruling. That's more fun than usual.

Boo @ the non threatening cult ruling. Cults should be super threatening, imo. More fun that way.

@Epi You never said Snow Dog was good, true. What you said was "I won't be voting for him." :shrug2: Well, for what it's worth, I won't be voting for you Day 1 either, Jack. It has nothing to do with your alignment (or his). Oh yeah? Can't figure out how to use the polls either, then? I'm...

@Epi You never said Snow Dog was good, true. What you said was "I won't be voting for him." :shrug2: Well, for what it's worth, I won't be voting for you Day 1 either, Jack. It has nothing to do with your alignment (or his). Oh yeah? Can't figure out how to use the polls either, then?

@Epi

You never said Snow Dog was good, true.

What you said was "I won't be voting for him."

Four pages all about Snow Dog and Long Con's bad directions. Snow Dog must feel special. I won't be voting him Day 1. Oh yeah? What caused you to determine SD is town or rather, definitely not someone you could see yourself lynching? Do you see a specific better option at this point? Or did you mer...

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