The Syndicate

There is normally a lifeguard on duty.

You’re both great be nice please.

Gl gn

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:54 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm Hot take: scum are mainly not present atm because they're satisfied with the shortlist.
Is there a consensus shortlist?
Save me Jack

Like with a kiss or something?

Im having a hard time figuring out how to negotiate a single player onto or off of the shortlist without screaming who I’m voting for.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm Hot take: scum are mainly not present atm because they're satisfied with the shortlist.

Is there a consensus shortlist?

Can we at the very least play nice with our new friends even if we think they’re mafia or have dumb reads?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm I’m gonna just archive this whole thread cause fuck game mechanics.
inb4 we're back to D2 after this phase
wait. what?

You’re still dreaming.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:43 pm WELL I GUESS ILL TAKE THE PISS AGAIN

SO MUCH FOR TRYING MY BEST HUH JACK? BECAUSE APPARENTLY THAT ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET PAST EVERYONES FUCKIGN EGO

I’m voting between “This game is bastard+anime gifs”, “this game is bastard syndicate is scum”, and my fucking self

Good night

Fuck off

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:40 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.
112 is like

still the only defensible one on this list fmpov

idk tho I always feel obvtown afafafaf

Like 6 people have expressed suspicion of Radishes.

They’re just quieter than the ones expressing suspicion of say...Dom.

I’m gonna just archive this whole thread cause fuck game mechanics.

My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.

Sprityo, Nova and Radishes it is.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay
At least I have a process and not a half assed theory

Hey, Sprityo. Have your reads changed since you put away your colors?

Hardclaim the subconscious urge to infodump even when it’s against the rules.

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:23 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:17 pm A Colin/Dom/Quin list feels like a giant copout tbh.
kinda reminds me of how nut said she'd probably get off of her drago vote because she wanted a bigbrain Lynch

you guys in the same faction?

Yeah, actually.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:21 pm Thanks for nothing Jack

A Colin/Dom/Quin list feels like a giant copout tbh.

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:06 pm I don't hate the readslist itself but not hating scum readslist happens sometimes when they tmi like 80% and push like 20% wrong reads

What is this referring to?

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:09 pm jack gonna be real i got a big mental block with wanting to cooperate with you after you've tunneled me the whole day and you land on the wrong side of my theory and you seem to not be in tune with the fact that me radishes and 112 should not be on the table and you keep ignoring the scummy syndicate players fmpov

I keep asking why the Syndicate players are scummy and I keep getting jokes, “well, some of them are actually null” and crickets.

I mean stuff beyond being absent.

Jay is too much of a professional to honestly make the whole scum team Syndicators. I mean, just look at him.

I’m skewing this a bit to make sure there aren’t groups of less than three but is this somewhat where we stand?

There is suspicion here and also objections to a lynch here. Basically, a lack of consensus on if these would be good wagons.
112
Epi
Iaafr
Master Radishes
Pawn Lelouch

There is not a lot of content here and these have been floated as okay lynches.
Dom
novaselinenever
Quin
Rej / ColinIsCool
sprityo

There hasn’t been a ton of discussion about lynching here.
Evenstar
Jackofhearts2005
Lady LambdaDelta
MacDougall
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Maybe we can do something like agree to vote in a certain category or let everyone vote somebody out of a category or something? Idk. I should have though of this more than an hour before deadline.

At least nobody is talking about lynching my townreads so worst case scenario, a null goes.

This voting method better be a one time event. Does not jive with my style at all.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:46 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:41 pm
Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:03 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:12 pm Michelle, what's your opinion regarding the value of a godfather? If you're working on the theory that Dragomir was bussed, does that mean 112 is scum? I don't get your world right now and I want to examine it more closely.
it very much depends on setup, but a role madness with forbidden claims should have a powetful godfather with maybe hidden mechanics.

112s AI doesn't matter and i don't want to speculate about a read i don't have yet
... does the Syndicate do roles that only partially flip on death often? Especially in an environment where the mechanics are already depriving Town of information?

Yeah, I don't buy that this is a real thought. Not being willing to comment on 112 when a page ago you were annoyed at me for "not having a settled read of you" - something that wasn't even true, by the way, I think you're scum - is also a bad look.
you don't have to buy i'm not selling amything.
i didn't have time to write more because i was busy irl and i am also not focused on 112. I can't consider him villager just for being cw but i really don't want to rush a read on him.
You complained you don't have my meta. The MU anon mash finished and had me as Coarsed Cowboy and you were the Dainty Deer. I succeded to spot you villagery very short after you implied yourself in the game.

You talked about me in a shady way That has no connection with the fact i don't give you my read on 112 I don't want to speculate i want to think better at it.
Did you notice I was unlynchable Noble Knight?
I did notice ^^

What's about the GTH should i search you posts and answer?

There’s supposed to be something to doing it spontaneously but maybe just giving the whole player list a gth read is fine.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:24 pm Where did jack go?

Parent teacher conference.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:09 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:03 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:12 pm Michelle, what's your opinion regarding the value of a godfather? If you're working on the theory that Dragomir was bussed, does that mean 112 is scum? I don't get your world right now and I want to examine it more closely.
it very much depends on setup, but a role madness with forbidden claims should have a powetful godfather with maybe hidden mechanics.

112s AI doesn't matter and i don't want to speculate about a read i don't have yet
... does the Syndicate do roles that only partially flip on death often? Especially in an environment where the mechanics are already depriving Town of information?

Yeah, I don't buy that this is a real thought. Not being willing to comment on 112 when a page ago you were annoyed at me for "not having a settled read of you" - something that wasn't even true, by the way, I think you're scum - is also a bad look.
you don't have to buy i'm not selling amything.
i didn't have time to write more because i was busy irl and i am also not focused on 112. I can't consider him villager just for being cw but i really don't want to rush a read on him.
You complained you don't have my meta. The MU anon mash finished and had me as Coarsed Cowboy and you were the Dainty Deer. I succeded to spot you villagery very short after you implied yourself in the game.

You talked about me in a shady way That has no connection with the fact i don't give you my read on 112 I don't want to speculate i want to think better at it.
1: That was a bad game
2: thinking about it makes me feel like you just might be town here given everything you did that made me scumread you there
3: I'm like 50% sure that that giant posting lull in the middle of D1 was because like five people got pinged to go play in the halloween mash, lol
4: ugh
5: please do better in this game than that one

Guilty of that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:03 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:12 pm Michelle, what's your opinion regarding the value of a godfather? If you're working on the theory that Dragomir was bussed, does that mean 112 is scum? I don't get your world right now and I want to examine it more closely.
it very much depends on setup, but a role madness with forbidden claims should have a powetful godfather with maybe hidden mechanics.

112s AI doesn't matter and i don't want to speculate about a read i don't have yet
... does the Syndicate do roles that only partially flip on death often? Especially in an environment where the mechanics are already depriving Town of information?

Yeah, I don't buy that this is a real thought. Not being willing to comment on 112 when a page ago you were annoyed at me for "not having a settled read of you" - something that wasn't even true, by the way, I think you're scum - is also a bad look.
you don't have to buy i'm not selling amything.
i didn't have time to write more because i was busy irl and i am also not focused on 112. I can't consider him villager just for being cw but i really don't want to rush a read on him.
You complained you don't have my meta. The MU anon mash finished and had me as Coarsed Cowboy and you were the Dainty Deer. I succeded to spot you villagery very short after you implied yourself in the game.

You talked about me in a shady way That has no connection with the fact i don't give you my read on 112 I don't want to speculate i want to think better at it.

Did you notice I was unlynchable Noble Knight?

Pawn
Epi

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:48 pm Lol this game is also know as “Jack asks for Nova’s reads.”

Mac
Quin

Town
Scum

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:44 pm Rabbit
Radishes

Gth are they town or scum?

Scum
Scum

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:46 pm The key part is to like give your reads.
I don't remember a rabbit hence why I'm asking, no nicknames

I Am A Fluffy Rabbit
Iaafr

Lol this game is also know as “Jack asks for Nova’s reads.”

Mac
Quin

The key part is to like give your reads.

Rabbit
Radishes

Gth are they town or scum?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:41 pm Not sure if that’s compatible with post restrictions

As long as you have at least 3 scumreads and we don’t just vote most consensus scumread, this is legal.

I think.

This is useful because it forces you to get reads out there and can catch an inconsistent scum. This is arguable.

This is useful right this second so you can see if your scumreads have a chance in hell of being voted out and since you’re not ordering your reads, it won’t break the game rules of no vote calling.

I need people to say they’re ready.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:32 pm This may be the first time it is ever useful to play gth.
Yeah host one asap while I'm still around please

Alright boys and girls we’re gonna play Jack’s favorite usually worthless game within a game, Gun To Head.

You have a pretend gun to your head and I want your reads. Just town or scum. No nulls. No cases. No quick isos.

I want to know off the top of your head what your gut insticnt on each player is as I call them out.

Ready?

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:29 pm A wild Nova appears.
People call him out publicly and then he appears. As expected.

With like a 12 hour delay.

I don’t think it’s related.

This may be the first time it is ever useful to play gth.

A wild Nova appears.

The problem with that is if I say “I won’t vote Rabbit because they are not consensus scum” then I have to take a third scumread and act like it is equal to my other bottom two.

Also, super hard to take the story seriously when it’s a battle for the fate of the multiverse bit we’re always taking time outs to do Easter egg hunts or have a grand prix.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:25 pm I've got half an hour before I head off to the university for that midterm, so anybody who wants to talk to me before I vanish for like four hours should do so now
What a coincidence. I am a professor.

Spoiler: show

LOL

You got a name for me to add on FEH?
I quit the grind in favor of different grind.
Worth it for the character collection tbh. Way better grind than FGO too

For sure. I’m finding FFOO to be my speed. Really, both F/GO and FEH have too many alts, which annoy me for no good reason.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:25 pm I've got half an hour before I head off to the university for that midterm, so anybody who wants to talk to me before I vanish for like four hours should do so now
What a coincidence. I am a professor.

Spoiler: show

LOL

You got a name for me to add on FEH?

I quit the grind in favor of different grind.

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:25 pm I've got half an hour before I head off to the university for that midterm, so anybody who wants to talk to me before I vanish for like four hours should do so now

What a coincidence. I am a professor.

Spoiler: show

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:19 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:17 pm If I squinted, I could see Michelle and Eva as scum for getting mad at me about my Radish posts without actually reading them and go all in an exact opposite galaxy brain read from Rabbit’s.

Isn't Michelle one of yours??

She’s third party for playing here a few times and MU a lot.

If I squinted, I could see Michelle and Eva as scum for getting mad at me about my Radish posts without actually reading them and go all in an exact opposite galaxy brain read from Rabbit’s.

[mention]Michelle[/mention] lol okay. Here is why I scumread Radishes.

Spoiler: show

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:07 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:29 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:21 pm ... man, I really wonder what chaos is currently occurring in the other thread

The majority of players just vanished
Did someone die? Multiple someones? Were we announced as having moved or did we just vanish with no explanation?

Are there scum there? Are there scum here? Probably there are scum in both places, but idek what the point of... oh, duh, the voting rules and the power thing, those are relevant. Ok. And the scum are Leo and Co, so... they have to progress through the levels somehow? Did they set this up? Probably there's some limitation on what they can do...

Yeah I got nothing. I super want to see how this shit works behind the scenes.

Given that multiple levels exist and there were three in the movie, I think we can bet that this'll happen again tonight - some of us will move to a new thread, some of us will [whatever happened to the other 13 players]

is there even another thread

there is super probably another thread

that or we're on a ridiculous clock and half of us are dead, but I don't think the GM would do that to us

This is stupid and I should table it for now, I'm just making myself paranoid because "what if we're in here with an 8-man scum team", which... yeah lol not happening
Stop doing that thing where you sow chaos please. There's no evidence of another thread, there's certainly no 8-person scum team in here, there certainly are some scum in here, and anyway it doesn't matter because we have a game to play.
You think Jay invited a bunch of new players for a 30 player game and then killed like 10+ players with no flips on N1?

It’s a reasonable assumption.

Baseless accusation.
The underlined was poorly worded. I didn't mean to state outright I believed the other players didn't have another thread - I think that makes sense - but I meant it had no bearing on us, here, now.

But Evenstar was wildly speculating in a way that did not help solve the game, only monger doubt. I know she has a rep for chaos-posting regardless of alignment, but this was not a great post from town!Eva either.

Smear campaign.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 am got it thanks.
thoughts on Radishes?
His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.

Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
What does 'dishonest' even mean here? You may disagree, but my rationale was clearly laid out.

Smear campaign.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:13 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:46 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:45 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm Epi, Eva, Jack, Nova

^contains scum, maybe even more than one
triggered.gif

Why? I townread everyone in this pile except Nova, who I don’t really have a read on.
That's based on who voted against Drago and who is in this group. I hesitate to be more specific about which ones I'm leaning more towards.
So level one. Cool cool.
Yeah, sure, 'level one' if you want to call it that. Why are you assuming we need to go to level gazillion to solve this game? 'Level one' is just a condescending way of dismissing what I might term a 'tried and true' method.

Smear campaign.

---

Jack, this is the most intensity you've shown all game, after floating through D1 with little impact on the evolving discussion of that round, beyond a brief foray into the nutella/Eva dichotomy. Nagl 4 u, imo.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:05 pm “Poorly worded” implication that Eva was “chaos posting” and therefore scum. Talk about a smear campaign.

We’ve gone over your post on Eva. I didn’t like your post(s) on Epi where he did long interactive isos and came to some sort of conclusion about the alignment of each player. I think they make Epi look really good and since the D1 thread is now gone, those posts are basically allowing me to develop reads on players I paid no attention to D1 or who posted in the 10 or so pages I missed.

Here’s what you have to say about it though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:38 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:35 pm Damn, I'm seeing why Epi has a rep

this is good casework
I can't remember him actually doing this before lol
How do you feel about an scum!Epignosis world?

He's burying the thread in mountains of quotes and if you actually read some of his thoughts on them they're lacking.

I also wasn't a fan of his EoD voting behaviour - he was a counter-wagon for awhile (rather than 112) but never voted for Drago even for self-preservation.
Talk about a smear campaign.

I called your reads level 1 because you admitted they’re basically pure wagonomics and there’s nothing more to say about them. I don’t take it back.

I don’t really think you’re 3p for the record. I was jokingly going along with the whole “Syndicate regulars are all scum” thing.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:57 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:56 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:49 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:22 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p
nah.
This is exactly what a 3p would say.
nah
She said it again!
You can't read me it's official. Let's see if I can red you

I’m aware. You can’t. It’s a problem.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:49 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:22 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:16 am @michelle are you 3p
nah.
This is exactly what a 3p would say.
nah

She said it again!

[mention]iaafr[/mention]

Remind me why you think individual Syndicate players besides Epi look scummy?

Like you, Pawn, 112 and Radishes have all expressed that your suspicions mostly lie on Syndicate regulars.

I don’t have any Syndicate regulars in my scumpool. What am I missing?

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